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pr0 · 09-25-2002, 03:04 PM

So i finally got my ass in gear the past few months & started pumping some iron. I'm not trying to turn into a power-lifter, just trying to lift to get some definition (slow + large number of reps).

I used to be in such good shape...& then i got into this business!

My forearms are pumping back up right now & im finally benching 150lbs like its a pillow...it feels good to be gettin back in shape.

For those of you who are just waisting away behind your computers, just remember how good you used to feel before you got into this line of work

So how many of you are pumpin up this winter?

Amputate Your Head · 09-25-2002, 03:06 PM

no weights, but lotsa surfing.

quiet · 09-25-2002, 03:08 PM

as soon as winter rolls around, i'll be snowboarding every week.

Smegma · 09-25-2002, 03:09 PM

I know KC likes to think he lifts a lot of weight.. but alas? he doesn't realize his own doesn't count.

Fletch XXX · 09-25-2002, 03:10 PM

My right arm is hella defined.

Flynn · 09-25-2002, 03:12 PM

pr0, I'm with you man. I finally realized how fat and out of shape I am. I started working out again 2 weeks ago.

Good Luck!

SpeakEasy · 09-25-2002, 03:13 PM

Don't forget to do your daily 6 ounce wridt curls

EscortBiz · 09-25-2002, 03:16 PM

BT · 09-25-2002, 03:21 PM

I wake up at 5 am and hit the gym. If you make it your first thing to do in the day it gets done with no excuses. Then drink 3 lean body by Labrada. You'll be lean in no time.. yeah

Cheshire · 09-25-2002, 03:28 PM

certainly a lot of fitness talk on the board today...

pr0 · 09-25-2002, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

fucking right! you won't be hard to miss at nina's party bro haha

damn how long did it take to get that fuckin big?

BJ · 09-25-2002, 03:31 PM

been going everyday (m-f) for about 4 months now, feels great and I DEFINATELY get way more accomplished now then ever. Amazing what working does for your mental state. Also, I used to snowboard 5 days a week in crested butte and for whatever reason (too much nady ice) I was the fattest I ever been.

Anyways working out allows me to get more work done and plus it gets you instantly laid.

booker · 09-25-2002, 03:33 PM

I do 40oz curls at least 4x a week.

bawdy · 09-25-2002, 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by booker
I do 40oz curls at least 4x a week.

im with u booker... plus i lift my fat ass out of bed in the morning and plonk it down in front of the computer

Candyman69 · 09-25-2002, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz

yo biz u on a cycle or anything ??
or are you natural

Cheshire · 09-25-2002, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Candyman69
yo biz u on a cycle or anything ??
or are you natural

I'm sure he doesn't hear that enough...

booker · 09-25-2002, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by bawdy

im with u booker... plus i lift my fat ass out of bed in the morning and plonk it down in front of the computer

who said bawdy and bookah ain't ghetto?? hahah

Smegma · 09-25-2002, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz

Nice pussy.

xxxmovieforum · 09-25-2002, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pr0
So i finally got my ass in gear the past few months & started pumping some iron. I'm not trying to turn into a power-lifter, just trying to lift to get some definition (slow + large number of reps).

I used to be in such good shape...& then i got into this business!

My forearms are pumping back up right now & im finally benching 150lbs like its a pillow...it feels good to be gettin back in shape.

For those of you who are just waisting away behind your computers, just remember how good you used to feel before you got into this line of work

So how many of you are pumpin up this winter?

Yepp, started lifting weight & allot of cardio for the past 4 month, I was weighing at around 225lbs with a little belly 4 months ago, now I am at 207lbs with no belly, thats about 12 hours a week of exercise. It feels good to be back in shape & breeding normally again

Everyone should exercise & stop eating junk food like Mc Dicks!!

I have notice to many girls are fat in my town & its really ashame, it seems they don't care about themselves!!

Pornwolf · 09-25-2002, 04:10 PM

I have a full 1500 pounds of weights in a my personal gym 20 feet from my bedroom. It's a lifestyle.

galleryseek · 09-25-2002, 04:21 PM

hell yeah lifting is great. i love it. 2 years now, 5 to 6 days a week. it is definately something i'm going to continue on for many more years to come.

^---thats prolly about 6 months old.

Theo · 09-25-2002, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Candyman69

yo biz u on a cycle or anything ??
or are you natural

if he has been into bodybuilding for years he can be natural for sure. Three years ago when i was the half day in gym from the age of 16 everybody was asking me the same. What kind of shit i'm getting....but I wasn't getting anything. At the age of 18 i could lift with my arms 160pounds standing....Now after near a year outside gym (except ocassional startups) it looks like a past dream.

Last 10 days I started exercising again in a regular program,like never before. I think it's matter of 6 months to be back in the shape i was. I have made many startups the last year,but didnt manage to follow seriously,this time i'm doing it :-)

galleryseek · 09-25-2002, 04:36 PM

yes, soul_rebel is right... i've never taken anything, in fact i could be much more muscular if i would just take the initiative to eat properly and not each so much junk food. and also i could be a lot bigger as far as my frame goes, if i lifted legs as well. i'm gonna start incorperating legs into my routine... one of the primary principles that is often overlooked when a person wants to increase their mass, is by doing a lot of deadlifting and SQUATS. yes a lot of people think how are squats going to help me increase my bench? trust me, they do, its fullbody and it releases certain hormones that promote growth. so yeah, its something you should start doing from the beginning as i have regretfully learned.

the guys who are extremely muscular and usually have a lot of acne on their backs are the ones who have probably juiced before. www.bigroncoleman.com for example

but anyways, you can get rather big if you workout and eat correctly.

Beastiepoo · 09-25-2002, 04:39 PM

Never did any free-weights but I did do the cardio/weight machine workout thing for a while. In a way I do miss it. I lost weight and inches in a very short space of time without changing my diet. I had more energy as well. At the moment I'm not doing anything but we are thinking about starting to go regularly after the baby is born. We (my husband and I) have both turned into jelly in the last 2 years and we'd definitely benefit from a regular workout program. The best thing would be if I could fit a Yoga/Pilates class in there a couple times a week followed by a swim and sauna. Hmm, you've got me thinking now.....

-=HOAX=- · 09-25-2002, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz

You're gonna pop that cat if you squeeze it any harder!

Theo · 09-25-2002, 04:55 PM

good tip galleryseek

another important thing for someone that exercises with weights is not to exceed the 1min rest time between sets! it sounds fucking hard and it is at the beginning,but its the only way for real fast results. If you are about to take some 5-10min rest between sets,forget it,stay at home :-)

galleryseek · 09-25-2002, 04:58 PM

also, a good place to learn a lot about training routines + nutrition + recipes is www.freakzonline.com there are some very informative people there, and you can ask any question and it'll get a response within a reasonable amount of time. of course there are newbies and people who claim to know their shit, but in time you'll know who the real people are.

Candyman69 · 09-25-2002, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
yes, soul_rebel is right... i've never taken anything, in fact i could be much more muscular if i would just take the initiative to eat properly and not each so much junk food. and also i could be a lot bigger as far as my frame goes, if i lifted legs as well. i'm gonna start incorperating legs into my routine... one of the primary principles that is often overlooked when a person wants to increase their mass, is by doing a lot of deadlifting and SQUATS. yes a lot of people think how are squats going to help me increase my bench? trust me, they do, its fullbody and it releases certain hormones that promote growth. so yeah, its something you should start doing from the beginning as i have regretfully learned. the guys who are extremely muscular and usually have a lot of acne on their backs are the ones who have probably juiced before. www.bigroncoleman.com for example

but anyways, you can get rather big if you workout and eat correctly.

that is very true, squats and deadlift, is a DEFINITE if u wanna gain mass. Your body is built so it balances out alot of things and make sure things are usually porpotional , plus squats helps build core strength

EscortBiz · 09-25-2002, 05:05 PM

gallery what do you do for chest?

Pornwolf · 09-25-2002, 05:12 PM

There's different opinions on what's the best way to do it. I was a competitve bodybuilder in my teens. NPC Teen competitions and all. I've been lifting for 14 years now. I never stopped but of course I had to slow down a little when work became serious. I have made better gains taking my time in between sets and focusing on form during.

In between reps taking time out and doing some deep myofascial stretching on the muscle group you are working will take you a little further than racing back for another set. Blasting a muscle is not a race. When it is over you know if you have effectively blasted a muscle.

Here's a pic I took in July for another thread.

galleryseek · 09-25-2002, 05:21 PM

escortbiz... when i first started lifting, i didn't really know what i was doing as a lot of us... i started out with bar basically for the first 10 or so months... basically the routine i did w/ that was either start on flat bench or incline bench.. typical 4 sets starting at 12 reps, down to 4 to 6 unassisted, then i would switch to the flat or the incline (whichever i didn't start out with).. and do basically the same thing... then i'd do either incline flies or flat flies
and they weren't the typical flies.. i'd extend out all the way w/ my palms facing forward basically (hard to explain), then as i came up i twist my arms in so the back of my hands were facing eachother... did 3 sets of that... then for the 4th exercise i'd go to the cables and either do the flies w/ it w/ the grips on the top (for lower chest), or the grips on the bottom for upper chest....
but for a full year basically, i didn't do any bar at ALL when it came to chest.

i did all free weights for chest... i got up to 100 lbs per arm... but for the past 2 months i've been going back to bar and basically meshing flat dumbell press / the barbell presses. its always good to get a variety in when it comes to chest.. always change it up and do both barbell and dumbells.. dumbells are primarily for cutting, where as barbells are for mass.

galleryseek · 09-25-2002, 05:37 PM

n' speakin of lifting... its time for me to go! be back in 2 hrs.

SpaceAce · 09-25-2002, 06:24 PM

I work out but just in the weight room in my apartment building and the stack only goes up to 200lbs. I do 200 for bench, 180 for over- and under-hand pulldowns, 180-160-140 for curls on the machine or 55lbs (dumbell) per arm freeweight, and 55lbs for behind-the-head tricep extensions (85 if I put it on the one barbell we have).

It's really pathetic with such light weights available. I've been thinking of buying some dumbells, but it would cost a lot to get a variety of weights. Anyone know of places to get good deals online?

SpaceAce

Pornwolf · 09-25-2002, 06:35 PM

http://www.k9fitness.com

This is where I get most of my stuff.

SpaceAce · 09-25-2002, 06:41 PM

Heh, that's a silly looking website

Thanks, I'll check it out.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce · 09-25-2002, 06:50 PM

Well, damn. I was looking at one of their benches:

Max. Recommended Weight: 390 LB.

Shit, I'm 350 by myself. I can't see a 40lb workout being very useful.

SpaceAce

BJ · 09-25-2002, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce
Well, damn. I was looking at one of their benches:

Max. Recommended Weight: 390 LB.

Shit, I'm 350 by myself. I can't see a 40lb workout being very useful.

SpaceAce

Its expensive to ship 400lbs

SpaceAce · 09-25-2002, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PureMeds

Its expensive to ship 400lbs

LOL, yeah, the cost in couches alone...

SpaceAce

Pornwolf · 09-25-2002, 07:49 PM

I got a special deal on the plates and hex dumbells there. I just looked at it. I don't see my Power cage listed anymore. Everything else I picked up here and there.

If you are stocking up for yourself definitely grab a power cage and build around it. It's the best all purpose piece you can have.

pr0 · 09-25-2002, 08:05 PM

what kind of shipping bills do you get ordering that stuff online?

BJ · 09-25-2002, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pr0
what kind of shipping bills do you get ordering that stuff online?

$1 per pound

Pornwolf · 09-25-2002, 08:11 PM

Dunno, the company is in Brooklyn too so I cut a special deal.

I wasn't thinking about this before but do what I did and run a google search for exercise equpment sales in your area. Shipping on the equipment isn't that bad but ordering the plates and the dumbells will kill you if you don't work out a good deal with a local supplier. This way you can just go pick it up yourself if you want to.

09-25-2002, 03:04 PM	#1
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	You lift weights? So i finally got my ass in gear the past few months & started pumping some iron. I'm not trying to turn into a power-lifter, just trying to lift to get some definition (slow + large number of reps). I used to be in such good shape...& then i got into this business! My forearms are pumping back up right now & im finally benching 150lbs like its a pillow...it feels good to be gettin back in shape. For those of you who are just waisting away behind your computers, just remember how good you used to feel before you got into this line of work So how many of you are pumpin up this winter? __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

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BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	been going everyday (m-f) for about 4 months now, feels great and I DEFINATELY get way more accomplished now then ever. Amazing what working does for your mental state. Also, I used to snowboard 5 days a week in crested butte and for whatever reason (too much nady ice) I was the fattest I ever been. Anyways working out allows me to get more work done and plus it gets you instantly laid.

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09-25-2002, 04:21 PM	#21
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	hell yeah lifting is great. i love it. 2 years now, 5 to 6 days a week. it is definately something i'm going to continue on for many more years to come. ^---thats prolly about 6 months old.

09-25-2002, 04:36 PM	#23
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	yes, soul_rebel is right... i've never taken anything, in fact i could be much more muscular if i would just take the initiative to eat properly and not each so much junk food. and also i could be a lot bigger as far as my frame goes, if i lifted legs as well. i'm gonna start incorperating legs into my routine... one of the primary principles that is often overlooked when a person wants to increase their mass, is by doing a lot of deadlifting and SQUATS. yes a lot of people think how are squats going to help me increase my bench? trust me, they do, its fullbody and it releases certain hormones that promote growth. so yeah, its something you should start doing from the beginning as i have regretfully learned. the guys who are extremely muscular and usually have a lot of acne on their backs are the ones who have probably juiced before. www.bigroncoleman.com for example but anyways, you can get rather big if you workout and eat correctly.

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Beastiepoo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a clog shop thinking about tulips Posts: 1,971	Never did any free-weights but I did do the cardio/weight machine workout thing for a while. In a way I do miss it. I lost weight and inches in a very short space of time without changing my diet. I had more energy as well. At the moment I'm not doing anything but we are thinking about starting to go regularly after the baby is born. We (my husband and I) have both turned into jelly in the last 2 years and we'd definitely benefit from a regular workout program. The best thing would be if I could fit a Yoga/Pilates class in there a couple times a week followed by a swim and sauna. Hmm, you've got me thinking now..... __________________ Dammit! My timing SUCKS! Hot body piercing jewellery at discounted prices - Click here! Got Goth traffic?? Make money with it at DarkPassions - Click Here!

09-25-2002, 04:55 PM	#26
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	good tip galleryseek another important thing for someone that exercises with weights is not to exceed the 1min rest time between sets! it sounds fucking hard and it is at the beginning,but its the only way for real fast results. If you are about to take some 5-10min rest between sets,forget it,stay at home :-)

09-25-2002, 04:58 PM	#27
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	also, a good place to learn a lot about training routines + nutrition + recipes is www.freakzonline.com there are some very informative people there, and you can ask any question and it'll get a response within a reasonable amount of time. of course there are newbies and people who claim to know their shit, but in time you'll know who the real people are.

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	There's different opinions on what's the best way to do it. I was a competitve bodybuilder in my teens. NPC Teen competitions and all. I've been lifting for 14 years now. I never stopped but of course I had to slow down a little when work became serious. I have made better gains taking my time in between sets and focusing on form during. In between reps taking time out and doing some deep myofascial stretching on the muscle group you are working will take you a little further than racing back for another set. Blasting a muscle is not a race. When it is over you know if you have effectively blasted a muscle. Here's a pic I took in July for another thread. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

09-25-2002, 05:21 PM	#31
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	escortbiz... when i first started lifting, i didn't really know what i was doing as a lot of us... i started out with bar basically for the first 10 or so months... basically the routine i did w/ that was either start on flat bench or incline bench.. typical 4 sets starting at 12 reps, down to 4 to 6 unassisted, then i would switch to the flat or the incline (whichever i didn't start out with).. and do basically the same thing... then i'd do either incline flies or flat flies and they weren't the typical flies.. i'd extend out all the way w/ my palms facing forward basically (hard to explain), then as i came up i twist my arms in so the back of my hands were facing eachother... did 3 sets of that... then for the 4th exercise i'd go to the cables and either do the flies w/ it w/ the grips on the top (for lower chest), or the grips on the bottom for upper chest.... but for a full year basically, i didn't do any bar at ALL when it came to chest. i did all free weights for chest... i got up to 100 lbs per arm... but for the past 2 months i've been going back to bar and basically meshing flat dumbell press / the barbell presses. its always good to get a variety in when it comes to chest.. always change it up and do both barbell and dumbells.. dumbells are primarily for cutting, where as barbells are for mass.

09-25-2002, 05:37 PM	#32
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	n' speakin of lifting... its time for me to go! be back in 2 hrs.

09-25-2002, 06:24 PM	#33
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	I work out but just in the weight room in my apartment building and the stack only goes up to 200lbs. I do 200 for bench, 180 for over- and under-hand pulldowns, 180-160-140 for curls on the machine or 55lbs (dumbell) per arm freeweight, and 55lbs for behind-the-head tricep extensions (85 if I put it on the one barbell we have). It's really pathetic with such light weights available. I've been thinking of buying some dumbells, but it would cost a lot to get a variety of weights. Anyone know of places to get good deals online? SpaceAce

09-25-2002, 06:35 PM	#34
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	http://www.k9fitness.com This is where I get most of my stuff. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

09-25-2002, 06:41 PM	#35
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	Heh, that's a silly looking website Thanks, I'll check it out. SpaceAce

09-25-2002, 06:50 PM	#36
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	Well, damn. I was looking at one of their benches: Max. Recommended Weight: 390 LB. Shit, I'm 350 by myself. I can't see a 40lb workout being very useful. SpaceAce

09-25-2002, 07:49 PM	#39
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I got a special deal on the plates and hex dumbells there. I just looked at it. I don't see my Power cage listed anymore. Everything else I picked up here and there. If you are stocking up for yourself definitely grab a power cage and build around it. It's the best all purpose piece you can have. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

09-25-2002, 08:05 PM	#40
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	what kind of shipping bills do you get ordering that stuff online?

09-25-2002, 08:11 PM	#42
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Dunno, the company is in Brooklyn too so I cut a special deal. I wasn't thinking about this before but do what I did and run a google search for exercise equpment sales in your area. Shipping on the equipment isn't that bad but ordering the plates and the dumbells will kill you if you don't work out a good deal with a local supplier. This way you can just go pick it up yourself if you want to. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches. Last edited by Pornwolf; 09-25-2002 at 08:32 PM..