If MICHAEL VICK WERE WHITE would he be doing less time? - GoFuckYourself.com

boneprone · 12-10-2007, 07:16 PM

I think its a stupid question and its obvious that if we were talking Steve Young here there wouldnt have even been a trial.

Penthouse Tony · 12-10-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

I think its a stupid question and its obvious that if we were talking Steve Young here there wouldnt have even been a trial.

Remember when Jerry Rice got caught in a bust of an asian "massage" parlor? He claimed he had never been there and didn't know what it was. His friends were playing a trick on him and he just arrived. He got off with nothing.

boneprone · 12-10-2007, 07:26 PM

Wait. Is Jerry Rice White?
Or did he just have white Friends?

Sometimes it pays just to have friends who are white. After all you are who you hang out with.

tony286 · 12-10-2007, 07:28 PM

Steve Young wouldnt be that stupid to jeopardize 100's of millions of dollars.

dynastoned · 12-10-2007, 07:30 PM

its fucked up he shouldn't be doing a day in jail in my opinion. but you get all these fucking soccer moms and PETA getting involved with the media and this is what happens.

SomeCreep · 12-10-2007, 07:31 PM

If it were Tom Brady, I think the president would've pardoned him.

starpimps · 12-10-2007, 07:33 PM

i am sure tony romo would get the same sentence if he was ignorant enough to do what vick did.

BiggleJones · 12-10-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned

its fucked up he shouldn't be doing a day in jail in my opinion. but you get all these fucking soccer moms and PETA getting involved with the media and this is what happens.

Why the hell should he not be in jail for abusing dogs? Shit...I hate PETA, but they have nothing to do with this. Why should anyone be let off of something like this?

dynastoned · 12-10-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggleJones

Why the hell should he not be in jail for abusing dogs? Shit...I hate PETA, but they have nothing to do with this. Why should anyone be let off of something like this?

i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

Pics Traffic · 12-10-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

I think its a stupid question and its obvious that if we were talking Steve Young here there wouldnt have even been a trial.

why?how is it any different?

Jman · 12-10-2007, 07:40 PM

I actually don't think so and I also think he didn't get enough time for what he did.

starpimps · 12-10-2007, 07:41 PM

Al Sharpton and his cronies say:
play the black card

Bojangles · 12-10-2007, 07:43 PM

No he would not.

RP Fade · 12-10-2007, 07:44 PM

Probably not..

Pics Traffic · 12-10-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned

i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

Didn’t KKK said the same thing about n-eg-ros 50 years ago? Why would anyone torture another being for fun?

NETbilling · 12-10-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned

i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

He ruined his own life and if he did not know any better to begin with, he is a real moron. I really do not want to hear any BS about his upbringing, friends, ect... HE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN BETTER.

Pics Traffic · 12-10-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by starpimps

Al Sharpton and his cronies say:
play the black card

He sure missed out on that! White dog jury after black citizen.

tony286 · 12-10-2007, 07:47 PM

Also at that income level there really is no black and white. Look at r kelly what he did and he is still free, any of us would have been sitting in jail for a long time.

dynastoned · 12-10-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MOCKBA

Didn?t KKK said the same thing about n-eg-ros 50 years ago? Why would anyone torture another being for fun?

I'm not talking about black people. I'm talking about a dog, you know those animals that are euthanized by the thousands in animal shelters everyday.

BobG · 12-10-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned

i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

Nailed it. My thoughts exactly.

sortie · 12-10-2007, 07:57 PM

Vick should have held rodeos instead and roped and choked the shit out of some cows before killing them and eating them.
You don't get jail time for doing that, you get trophies and blue ribbons.

boneprone · 12-10-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MOCKBA

why?how is it any different?

Hint Hint...

One of them is a NEGROOOO.

dynastoned · 12-10-2007, 07:59 PM

but to stick to the topic yes i do believe steve young would have done time too. the reason, money. the gambling aspect is what got him stuck with jail time. you think the fed's would have raided his house for a couple black guys dog fighting for a couple hundred bucks a pop? nah the only reason hes sitting in jail today is because they were gambling in upwards of a hundred thousand dollars per fight. if its just small time dog fighting hes playing in atlanta tonight.

Pics Traffic · 12-10-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone

Hint Hint...

One of them is a NEGROOOO.

One of them is a NEGGROOOOO the other one is DEAAAAAAAD... Can you guess who is who????

iSMOKE · 12-10-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

Remember when Jerry Rice got caught in a bust of an asian "massage" parlor? He claimed he had never been there and didn't know what it was. His friends were playing a trick on him and he just arrived. He got off with nothing.

Remember when Michael "Ron Mexico" Vick was running around knowingly spreading Herpes to random women?? No jail time for that one either.

L-Pink · 12-10-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned

i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

You are missing the point, many laws aren't worth ruining a life over. But they all have something in common ... they are federal offenses with mandatory sentences.

Also if Vick hadn't lied to federal authorities (another federal crime) it might have been run thru at just a state level with no jail time, fines only.

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iSMOKE · 12-10-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned

i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

Shooting dogs, drowning them, electracuting them, having them tear each other apart until one dies, tying females down and letting males rape them...how did a dogs life ruin his? Sounds like he ruined a lot of theirs. Just my

iSMOKE · 12-10-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

You are missing the point, many laws aren't worth ruining a life over. But they all have something in common ... they are federal offenses with mandatory sentences.

Also if Vick hadn't lied to federal authorities (another federal crime) it might have been run thru at just a state level with no jail time, fines only.

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ol' pinky i think i finally agree with you on something

L-Pink · 12-10-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NetBilling

He ruined his own life and if he did not know any better to begin with, he is a real moron. I really do not want to hear any BS about his upbringing, friends, ect... HE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN BETTER.

Correct, this was a large multi state gambling operation that probably wasn't advertized on the radio. Everyone knew it was illegal.

iSMOKE · 12-10-2007, 08:12 PM

???

spacedog · 12-10-2007, 08:14 PM

He did not get jail time because of the color of his skin.

He got jail time because of the crime he committed & the fact that it was a high profile case involving a criminal activity that is practiced across the nation by innner-city youth caught up in the glorified thug hip-hop life.

They wanted to set & make an example of Vick in the hopes of deterring others from committing the same horrendous crimes.

sortie · 12-10-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MOCKBA

One of them is a NEGGROOOOO the other one is DEAAAAAAAD... Can you guess who is who????

dynastoned · 12-10-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by iSMOKE

Shooting dogs, drowning them, electracuting them, having them tear each other apart until one dies, tying females down and letting males rape them...how did a dogs life ruin his? Sounds like he ruined a lot of theirs. Just my

THEY ARE FUCKING DOGS. LOL and now i've heard it all dogs raping other dogs.

If only you people were this passionate about our politicians we might actually save more human suffering...

L-Pink · 12-10-2007, 08:24 PM

Guess what Steve Young would NOT have done while awaiting sentencing ..... TEST POSITIVE FOR POT .... lol I'm sure this helped.

HeadPimp · 12-10-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Steve Young wouldnt be that stupid to jeopardize 100's of millions of dollars.

That is most likely that case.

GreyWolf · 12-10-2007, 08:41 PM

23 months is a joke. Druggies who never physically harmed a human or animal get more than that and clog the prison system up at the taxpayers expense.

It is irrelevant who Vick is - don't matter if he's Elvis reincarnated or whether his skin is purple, puce or tartan. Vick's career or financial background is also irrelvant insofar as any offenses are concerned.

Michael Vick knowingly financed an illegal dog fighting operation. He was the prime promoter, if not the only promoter. In conjuction with his "partners", Vick killed dogs by various methods, including hanging and drowning. The actual dogfights also involved abuse of animals with the object of pandering to a base level of human intellect for profit.

Whether the full background was actually revealed, either by admissions or at the trial may be a matter of opinion. Only my

- a more appropriate sentence would have been in the range of 60 months - and a day. No parole.

V_RocKs · 12-10-2007, 08:44 PM

White? He'd get a high five and some good Cubans and be sent home.

L-Pink · 12-10-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GreyWolf

23 months is a joke. Druggies who never physically harmed a human or animal get more than that and clog the prison system up at the taxpayers expense.

It is irrelevant who Vick is - don't matter if he's Elvis reincarnated or whether his skin is purple, puce or tartan. Vick's career or financial background is also irrelvant insofar as any offenses are concerned.

Michael Vick knowingly financed an illegal dog fighting operation. He was the prime promoter, if not the only promoter. In conjuction with his "partners", Vick killed dogs by various methods, including hanging and drowning. The actual dogfights also involved abuse of animals with the object of pandering to a base level of human intellect for profit.

Whether the full background was actually revealed, either by admissions or at the trial may be a matter of opinion. Only my

- a more appropriate sentence would have been in the range of 60 months - and a day. No parole.

.

Xrated J · 12-10-2007, 08:49 PM

fuck him

Scootermuze · 12-10-2007, 10:08 PM

Concluding what a prosecutor called Richmond's biggest dogfighting case, Stacey A. Miller was sentenced yesterday to four years in prison, fined $20,000 and barred from owning any companion animals.

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Three men who pleaded no contest to dogfighting-related charges were each sentenced Tuesday to four years in prison. Louis Snowden-Davis, 37, Simon J. Denby, 34, and Donyell C. Moschetti, 35, all of Dayton, also were ordered to pay more than $100,000

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The guy got off pretty easy....

Pics Traffic · 12-10-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

Concluding what a prosecutor called Richmond's biggest dogfighting case, Stacey A. Miller was sentenced yesterday to four years in prison, fined $20,000 and barred from owning any companion animals.

ref

Three men who pleaded no contest to dogfighting-related charges were each sentenced Tuesday to four years in prison. Louis Snowden-Davis, 37, Simon J. Denby, 34, and Donyell C. Moschetti, 35, all of Dayton, also were ordered to pay more than $100,000

ref

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The guy got off pretty easy....

Ooops for negros and BP.
Of course we’re going to have arguments like “I he/she was a celeb.. And if he was playing for a football team, and if he was a Virginia Tech grad, and if he was black and related to Shaka Zulu”

Fuck it, the man steped in a pile of shit!

GUILTY

Pics Traffic · 12-10-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Your point? We all know that white people get free ticket for their crimes no matter what it is, but blacks take it up their ass for stealing bubble gum from 7-11. That’s why prison population is 70% black.

Scott McD · 12-10-2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned

i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

What a fucking attitude to have over this.

I seriously hope you don't have any pets...

GreyWolf · 12-10-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

Concluding what a prosecutor called Richmond's biggest dogfighting case, Stacey A. Miller was sentenced yesterday to four years in prison, fined $20,000 and barred from owning any companion animals.

ref

Three men who pleaded no contest to dogfighting-related charges were each sentenced Tuesday to four years in prison. Louis Snowden-Davis, 37, Simon J. Denby, 34, and Donyell C. Moschetti, 35, all of Dayton, also were ordered to pay more than $100,000

ref

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The guy got off pretty easy....

Interesting comparisons.... Yep, agree - Vick's sentencing was light.

Amazing stuff - who breeds these idiots?

Agent 488 · 12-10-2007, 11:13 PM

yes ...........

smutnut · 12-11-2007, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

If it were Tom Brady, I think the president would've pardoned him.

Tom Brady wouldn't have been stupid enough or classless enough to get involved in dog fighting or put it before his football career. That's why he's a three time superbowl champion going on four

Drake · 12-11-2007, 02:19 AM

Like somebody said, at that income level and fame, race usually becomes a non-issue. A white player would have gotten the same slap-on-the-wrist that Vick has.

A better question would be would a poor person of any color involved in dog fighting have gotten more harsher sentence.

SarahLLO · 12-11-2007, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NetBilling

He ruined his own life and if he did not know any better to begin with, he is a real moron. I really do not want to hear any BS about his upbringing, friends, ect... HE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN BETTER.

Exactly. You have to be seriously broken to abuse innocent animals like that; he deserves whatever he gets. I've taken in two previously abused dogs, and it's heartbreaking to see how it affects them even after they're removed from the situation.

smutnut · 12-11-2007, 02:44 AM

I'm not an animal rights freak, but I don't believe in senseless torture of animals either.

I think in Michael Vick's case, his deservement of the punishment is all in perspective. If you're black, you probably believe he got a harsh sentence. If you're an animal rights freak, you probably think he got off easy. If you're a professional football player, you probably wish the media would focus on something else.

I personally find it fascinating that a person with enough natural talent to play one of the most coveted positions in one of the most coveted professional sports in the world would piss it all away for what he pissed it away for.

Goes to show you what happens when you can't live up to all your hype.

Vendot · 12-11-2007, 08:37 AM

http://www.boston.com/sports/article...nce_23_months/

See Vick actually hung a dog...... where did he get time to do all these things?

In his sporting career, you wonder where he would get the time to be involved in these activities.

From a practicality point of view, poisoning would be quicker.

12-10-2007, 07:16 PM	#1
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	If MICHAEL VICK WERE WHITE would he be doing less time? I think its a stupid question and its obvious that if we were talking Steve Young here there wouldnt have even been a trial. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

12-10-2007, 07:26 PM	#3
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Wait. Is Jerry Rice White? Or did he just have white Friends? Sometimes it pays just to have friends who are white. After all you are who you hang out with. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Steve Young wouldnt be that stupid to jeopardize 100's of millions of dollars.

12-10-2007, 07:30 PM	#5
dynastoned mmm yeah! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: roseville, ca Posts: 5,061	its fucked up he shouldn't be doing a day in jail in my opinion. but you get all these fucking soccer moms and PETA getting involved with the media and this is what happens.

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12-10-2007, 07:43 PM	#13
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12-10-2007, 07:47 PM	#18
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Also at that income level there really is no black and white. Look at r kelly what he did and he is still free, any of us would have been sitting in jail for a long time.

12-10-2007, 07:57 PM	#21
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	Vick should have held rodeos instead and roped and choked the shit out of some cows before killing them and eating them. You don't get jail time for doing that, you get trophies and blue ribbons. __________________

12-10-2007, 07:59 PM	#23
dynastoned mmm yeah! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: roseville, ca Posts: 5,061	but to stick to the topic yes i do believe steve young would have done time too. the reason, money. the gambling aspect is what got him stuck with jail time. you think the fed's would have raided his house for a couple black guys dog fighting for a couple hundred bucks a pop? nah the only reason hes sitting in jail today is because they were gambling in upwards of a hundred thousand dollars per fight. if its just small time dog fighting hes playing in atlanta tonight.

12-10-2007, 08:12 PM	#30
iSMOKE Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,028	??? __________________

12-10-2007, 08:14 PM	#31
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	He did not get jail time because of the color of his skin. He got jail time because of the crime he committed & the fact that it was a high profile case involving a criminal activity that is practiced across the nation by innner-city youth caught up in the glorified thug hip-hop life. They wanted to set & make an example of Vick in the hopes of deterring others from committing the same horrendous crimes.

12-10-2007, 08:24 PM	#34
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	Guess what Steve Young would NOT have done while awaiting sentencing ..... TEST POSITIVE FOR POT .... lol I'm sure this helped.

12-10-2007, 08:41 PM	#36
GreyWolf So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,036	23 months is a joke. Druggies who never physically harmed a human or animal get more than that and clog the prison system up at the taxpayers expense. It is irrelevant who Vick is - don't matter if he's Elvis reincarnated or whether his skin is purple, puce or tartan. Vick's career or financial background is also irrelvant insofar as any offenses are concerned. Michael Vick knowingly financed an illegal dog fighting operation. He was the prime promoter, if not the only promoter. In conjuction with his "partners", Vick killed dogs by various methods, including hanging and drowning. The actual dogfights also involved abuse of animals with the object of pandering to a base level of human intellect for profit. Whether the full background was actually revealed, either by admissions or at the trial may be a matter of opinion. Only my - a more appropriate sentence would have been in the range of 60 months - and a day. No parole.

12-10-2007, 08:44 PM	#37
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,420	White? He'd get a high five and some good Cubans and be sent home.

12-10-2007, 08:49 PM	#39
Xrated J Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 4,347	fuck him

12-10-2007, 10:08 PM	#40
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Concluding what a prosecutor called Richmond's biggest dogfighting case, Stacey A. Miller was sentenced yesterday to four years in prison, fined $20,000 and barred from owning any companion animals. ref Three men who pleaded no contest to dogfighting-related charges were each sentenced Tuesday to four years in prison. Louis Snowden-Davis, 37, Simon J. Denby, 34, and Donyell C. Moschetti, 35, all of Dayton, also were ordered to pay more than $100,000 ref ------------------------------ The guy got off pretty easy....

12-10-2007, 11:13 PM	#45
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	yes ...........

12-11-2007, 02:19 AM	#47
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Like somebody said, at that income level and fame, race usually becomes a non-issue. A white player would have gotten the same slap-on-the-wrist that Vick has. A better question would be would a poor person of any color involved in dog fighting have gotten more harsher sentence.

12-11-2007, 02:44 AM	#49
smutnut So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Babylon Posts: 5,889	I'm not an animal rights freak, but I don't believe in senseless torture of animals either. I think in Michael Vick's case, his deservement of the punishment is all in perspective. If you're black, you probably believe he got a harsh sentence. If you're an animal rights freak, you probably think he got off easy. If you're a professional football player, you probably wish the media would focus on something else. I personally find it fascinating that a person with enough natural talent to play one of the most coveted positions in one of the most coveted professional sports in the world would piss it all away for what he pissed it away for. Goes to show you what happens when you can't live up to all your hype.

12-11-2007, 08:37 AM	#50
Vendot Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Malaysia Posts: 3,376	http://www.boston.com/sports/article...nce_23_months/ See Vick actually hung a dog...... where did he get time to do all these things? In his sporting career, you wonder where he would get the time to be involved in these activities. From a practicality point of view, poisoning would be quicker. __________________ "In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act." - George Orwell