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boneprone 12-10-2007 07:16 PM

If MICHAEL VICK WERE WHITE would he be doing less time?
 
I think its a stupid question and its obvious that if we were talking Steve Young here there wouldnt have even been a trial.

Penthouse Tony 12-10-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 13497227)
I think its a stupid question and its obvious that if we were talking Steve Young here there wouldnt have even been a trial.

Remember when Jerry Rice got caught in a bust of an asian "massage" parlor? He claimed he had never been there and didn't know what it was. His friends were playing a trick on him and he just arrived. He got off with nothing.

boneprone 12-10-2007 07:26 PM

Wait. Is Jerry Rice White?
Or did he just have white Friends?

Sometimes it pays just to have friends who are white. After all you are who you hang out with.

tony286 12-10-2007 07:28 PM

Steve Young wouldnt be that stupid to jeopardize 100's of millions of dollars.

dynastoned 12-10-2007 07:30 PM

its fucked up he shouldn't be doing a day in jail in my opinion. but you get all these fucking soccer moms and PETA getting involved with the media and this is what happens.

SomeCreep 12-10-2007 07:31 PM

If it were Tom Brady, I think the president would've pardoned him.

starpimps 12-10-2007 07:33 PM

i am sure tony romo would get the same sentence if he was ignorant enough to do what vick did.

BiggleJones 12-10-2007 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned (Post 13497282)
its fucked up he shouldn't be doing a day in jail in my opinion. but you get all these fucking soccer moms and PETA getting involved with the media and this is what happens.

Why the hell should he not be in jail for abusing dogs? Shit...I hate PETA, but they have nothing to do with this. Why should anyone be let off of something like this?

dynastoned 12-10-2007 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggleJones (Post 13497300)
Why the hell should he not be in jail for abusing dogs? Shit...I hate PETA, but they have nothing to do with this. Why should anyone be let off of something like this?

i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

Pics Traffic 12-10-2007 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 13497227)
I think its a stupid question and its obvious that if we were talking Steve Young here there wouldnt have even been a trial.

why?how is it any different?

Jman 12-10-2007 07:40 PM

I actually don't think so and I also think he didn't get enough time for what he did.

starpimps 12-10-2007 07:41 PM

Al Sharpton and his cronies say:
play the black card

Bojangles 12-10-2007 07:43 PM

No he would not.

RP Fade 12-10-2007 07:44 PM

Probably not..

Pics Traffic 12-10-2007 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynastoned (Post 13497315)
i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

Didn’t KKK said the same thing about n-eg-ros 50 years ago? Why would anyone torture another being for fun?

NETbilling 12-10-2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynastoned (Post 13497315)
i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

He ruined his own life and if he did not know any better to begin with, he is a real moron. I really do not want to hear any BS about his upbringing, friends, ect... HE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN BETTER.

Pics Traffic 12-10-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by starpimps (Post 13497332)
Al Sharpton and his cronies say:
play the black card

He sure missed out on that! White dog jury after black citizen.

tony286 12-10-2007 07:47 PM

Also at that income level there really is no black and white. Look at r kelly what he did and he is still free, any of us would have been sitting in jail for a long time.

dynastoned 12-10-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MOCKBA (Post 13497346)
Didn?t KKK said the same thing about n-eg-ros 50 years ago? Why would anyone torture another being for fun?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm not talking about black people. I'm talking about a dog, you know those animals that are euthanized by the thousands in animal shelters everyday.

BobG 12-10-2007 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynastoned (Post 13497315)
i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

Nailed it. My thoughts exactly.

sortie 12-10-2007 07:57 PM

Vick should have held rodeos instead and roped and choked the shit out of some cows before killing them and eating them.
You don't get jail time for doing that, you get trophies and blue ribbons. :1orglaugh

boneprone 12-10-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MOCKBA (Post 13497322)
why?how is it any different?

Hint Hint...

One of them is a NEGROOOO.

dynastoned 12-10-2007 07:59 PM

but to stick to the topic yes i do believe steve young would have done time too. the reason, money. the gambling aspect is what got him stuck with jail time. you think the fed's would have raided his house for a couple black guys dog fighting for a couple hundred bucks a pop? nah the only reason hes sitting in jail today is because they were gambling in upwards of a hundred thousand dollars per fight. if its just small time dog fighting hes playing in atlanta tonight.

Pics Traffic 12-10-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 13497394)
Hint Hint...

One of them is a NEGROOOO.


One of them is a NEGGROOOOO the other one is DEAAAAAAAD... Can you guess who is who????

http://blog.canoe.ca/mediam/oj.jpg

iSMOKE 12-10-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF (Post 13497262)
Remember when Jerry Rice got caught in a bust of an asian "massage" parlor? He claimed he had never been there and didn't know what it was. His friends were playing a trick on him and he just arrived. He got off with nothing.

Remember when Michael "Ron Mexico" Vick was running around knowingly spreading Herpes to random women?? No jail time for that one either.

L-Pink 12-10-2007 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynastoned (Post 13497315)
i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

You are missing the point, many laws aren't worth ruining a life over. But they all have something in common ... they are federal offenses with mandatory sentences.

Also if Vick hadn't lied to federal authorities (another federal crime) it might have been run thru at just a state level with no jail time, fines only.

.

iSMOKE 12-10-2007 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dynastoned (Post 13497315)
i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

Shooting dogs, drowning them, electracuting them, having them tear each other apart until one dies, tying females down and letting males rape them...how did a dogs life ruin his? Sounds like he ruined a lot of theirs. Just my :2 cents:

iSMOKE 12-10-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13497428)
You are missing the point, many laws aren't worth ruining a life over. But they all have something in common ... they are federal offenses with mandatory sentences.

Also if Vick hadn't lied to federal authorities (another federal crime) it might have been run thru at just a state level with no jail time, fines only.

.

ol' pinky i think i finally agree with you on something :thumbsup

L-Pink 12-10-2007 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NetBilling (Post 13497348)
He ruined his own life and if he did not know any better to begin with, he is a real moron. I really do not want to hear any BS about his upbringing, friends, ect... HE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN BETTER.

Correct, this was a large multi state gambling operation that probably wasn't advertized on the radio. Everyone knew it was illegal.

iSMOKE 12-10-2007 08:12 PM

http://i19.tinypic.com/6jd7vra.jpg


???

spacedog 12-10-2007 08:14 PM

He did not get jail time because of the color of his skin.

He got jail time because of the crime he committed & the fact that it was a high profile case involving a criminal activity that is practiced across the nation by innner-city youth caught up in the glorified thug hip-hop life.

They wanted to set & make an example of Vick in the hopes of deterring others from committing the same horrendous crimes.

sortie 12-10-2007 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOCKBA (Post 13497400)
One of them is a NEGGROOOOO the other one is DEAAAAAAAD... Can you guess who is who????

http://www.papermag.com/blogs/spectorDM1603_468x456.jpg

:1orglaugh

dynastoned 12-10-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by iSMOKE (Post 13497430)
Shooting dogs, drowning them, electracuting them, having them tear each other apart until one dies, tying females down and letting males rape them...how did a dogs life ruin his? Sounds like he ruined a lot of theirs. Just my :2 cents:

THEY ARE FUCKING DOGS. LOL and now i've heard it all dogs raping other dogs. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If only you people were this passionate about our politicians we might actually save more human suffering...

L-Pink 12-10-2007 08:24 PM

Guess what Steve Young would NOT have done while awaiting sentencing ..... TEST POSITIVE FOR POT .... lol I'm sure this helped. :1orglaugh

HeadPimp 12-10-2007 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13497275)
Steve Young wouldnt be that stupid to jeopardize 100's of millions of dollars.

That is most likely that case.

GreyWolf 12-10-2007 08:41 PM

23 months is a joke. Druggies who never physically harmed a human or animal get more than that and clog the prison system up at the taxpayers expense.

It is irrelevant who Vick is - don't matter if he's Elvis reincarnated or whether his skin is purple, puce or tartan. Vick's career or financial background is also irrelvant insofar as any offenses are concerned.

Michael Vick knowingly financed an illegal dog fighting operation. He was the prime promoter, if not the only promoter. In conjuction with his "partners", Vick killed dogs by various methods, including hanging and drowning. The actual dogfights also involved abuse of animals with the object of pandering to a base level of human intellect for profit.

Whether the full background was actually revealed, either by admissions or at the trial may be a matter of opinion. Only my :2 cents: - a more appropriate sentence would have been in the range of 60 months - and a day. No parole.

V_RocKs 12-10-2007 08:44 PM

White? He'd get a high five and some good Cubans and be sent home.

L-Pink 12-10-2007 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyWolf (Post 13497537)
23 months is a joke. Druggies who never physically harmed a human or animal get more than that and clog the prison system up at the taxpayers expense.

It is irrelevant who Vick is - don't matter if he's Elvis reincarnated or whether his skin is purple, puce or tartan. Vick's career or financial background is also irrelvant insofar as any offenses are concerned.

Michael Vick knowingly financed an illegal dog fighting operation. He was the prime promoter, if not the only promoter. In conjuction with his "partners", Vick killed dogs by various methods, including hanging and drowning. The actual dogfights also involved abuse of animals with the object of pandering to a base level of human intellect for profit.

Whether the full background was actually revealed, either by admissions or at the trial may be a matter of opinion. Only my :2 cents: - a more appropriate sentence would have been in the range of 60 months - and a day. No parole.

:2 cents:

.

Xrated J 12-10-2007 08:49 PM

fuck him

Scootermuze 12-10-2007 10:08 PM

Concluding what a prosecutor called Richmond's biggest dogfighting case, Stacey A. Miller was sentenced yesterday to four years in prison, fined $20,000 and barred from owning any companion animals.

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Three men who pleaded no contest to dogfighting-related charges were each sentenced Tuesday to four years in prison. Louis Snowden-Davis, 37, Simon J. Denby, 34, and Donyell C. Moschetti, 35, all of Dayton, also were ordered to pay more than $100,000

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The guy got off pretty easy....

Pics Traffic 12-10-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze (Post 13497799)
Concluding what a prosecutor called Richmond's biggest dogfighting case, Stacey A. Miller was sentenced yesterday to four years in prison, fined $20,000 and barred from owning any companion animals.

ref

Three men who pleaded no contest to dogfighting-related charges were each sentenced Tuesday to four years in prison. Louis Snowden-Davis, 37, Simon J. Denby, 34, and Donyell C. Moschetti, 35, all of Dayton, also were ordered to pay more than $100,000

ref


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The guy got off pretty easy....

Ooops for negros and BP.
Of course we’re going to have arguments like “I he/she was a celeb.. And if he was playing for a football team, and if he was a Virginia Tech grad, and if he was black and related to Shaka Zulu”

Fuck it, the man steped in a pile of shit!

GUILTY

Pics Traffic 12-10-2007 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 13497449)
:1orglaugh

Your point? We all know that white people get free ticket for their crimes no matter what it is, but blacks take it up their ass for stealing bubble gum from 7-11. That’s why prison population is 70% black.

Scott McD 12-10-2007 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dynastoned (Post 13497315)
i just don't feel like it deserves jail time. a big fine sure but jail time i don't think so. it's a fucking dog or many dogs who cares. would i do that to a dog? no, but in my opinion a dogs life isn't worth ruining a mans life.

What a fucking attitude to have over this.

I seriously hope you don't have any pets... :disgust

GreyWolf 12-10-2007 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootermuze (Post 13497799)
Concluding what a prosecutor called Richmond's biggest dogfighting case, Stacey A. Miller was sentenced yesterday to four years in prison, fined $20,000 and barred from owning any companion animals.

ref

Three men who pleaded no contest to dogfighting-related charges were each sentenced Tuesday to four years in prison. Louis Snowden-Davis, 37, Simon J. Denby, 34, and Donyell C. Moschetti, 35, all of Dayton, also were ordered to pay more than $100,000

ref


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The guy got off pretty easy....

Interesting comparisons.... Yep, agree - Vick's sentencing was light.

Amazing stuff - who breeds these idiots? :disgust

Agent 488 12-10-2007 11:13 PM

yes ...........

smutnut 12-11-2007 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 13497287)
If it were Tom Brady, I think the president would've pardoned him.

Tom Brady wouldn't have been stupid enough or classless enough to get involved in dog fighting or put it before his football career. That's why he's a three time superbowl champion going on four

Drake 12-11-2007 02:19 AM

Like somebody said, at that income level and fame, race usually becomes a non-issue. A white player would have gotten the same slap-on-the-wrist that Vick has.

A better question would be would a poor person of any color involved in dog fighting have gotten more harsher sentence.

SarahLLO 12-11-2007 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NetBilling (Post 13497348)
He ruined his own life and if he did not know any better to begin with, he is a real moron. I really do not want to hear any BS about his upbringing, friends, ect... HE HAD TO HAVE KNOWN BETTER.

Exactly. You have to be seriously broken to abuse innocent animals like that; he deserves whatever he gets. I've taken in two previously abused dogs, and it's heartbreaking to see how it affects them even after they're removed from the situation.

smutnut 12-11-2007 02:44 AM

I'm not an animal rights freak, but I don't believe in senseless torture of animals either.

I think in Michael Vick's case, his deservement of the punishment is all in perspective. If you're black, you probably believe he got a harsh sentence. If you're an animal rights freak, you probably think he got off easy. If you're a professional football player, you probably wish the media would focus on something else.

I personally find it fascinating that a person with enough natural talent to play one of the most coveted positions in one of the most coveted professional sports in the world would piss it all away for what he pissed it away for.

Goes to show you what happens when you can't live up to all your hype.

Vendot 12-11-2007 08:37 AM

http://www.boston.com/sports/article...nce_23_months/

See Vick actually hung a dog...... where did he get time to do all these things?

In his sporting career, you wonder where he would get the time to be involved in these activities.

From a practicality point of view, poisoning would be quicker.


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