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ive got a pc, but i wanna get a mac
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Another common misconception is that Macs are strictly for computer illiterate idiots. That really hasnt been true since OSX. OSX, being BSD based (and officially a certified UNIX), works so naturally and well with just about allopen source software out there. If you do any work with open source software, especially in development, macs are great. I'm really a Linux guy myself, but have been trying Macs on for size for the last couple years. Linux will remain on all my servers of course, but I dont really have much of a reason to switch my desktops back, at all.
If you do any kind of development or work with open source stuff like Apache, php, perl, python, ruby etc etc Mac's make a much better choice than PC, IMHO.
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I get their newsletter just for a chuckle.. the amount of totally ill-researched, completely false info is amazing.
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I have a PC so I'd say PC. They're easier to use than MACs.
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I use a mac, for me it's a personal thing, are they more expensive no, because If I where going to buy a pc it would be expensive too, I don't buy shitty things, if I am going to spend my money on it I want it to be very good.
Sure you can buy a piece of shit pc for $899, and yes it's cheaper than a $1199 imac, but it's also a much lesser of a computer. Let's face it even though dell says they have a good computer for $500, they don't. The difference is that Apple just skips the cheap shit and only builds decent computers in the mid to high range. Oh ya and you can run windows on your new mac, so that makes the decision easy, should you buy a cheaper slower computer that runs vista or should you but a faster mac that will run mac os X and Any version of windows??? |
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Funny thing is though, that once you spend the time to learn things and install some 3rd party plugins like Quicksilver. Mac's are actually better for power user type situations than PC. RAW conversion, and the file browser I like better on the PC though. And of course support for games. |
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Definitely check out Quicksilver if you are a poweruser. |
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and yes rotating photos on a mac is a pain in the a**, sometimes i rotate thousands of photos in one setting, dont want to have to sit and pick each one separately and hope the files actually change and not just change in the virtual world of macs... |
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Have you tried Iview Multimedia? Used to be independently owned but MS got a hold of it. May be a plus to you but for me its the kiss of death. |
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it'l always be PC for me, i could never get used to the mac interface
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To each his own......different people different choices.....who cares if the
next guy prefers a different brand than you do... I never understand this obsession of forcing ones opinion/preferences on to others Make your choice by what you prefer and not what someone else prefers it's that simple
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MAC for design PC the rest
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Ill go for pc cuz its more creeper and easy to repair Desktop rocks
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Only Pc!@!!!!
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The Mac can run Vista or OSX. For me that's the decision maker.
We have an assortment of Mac laptops, iMacs and boxes. Can't escape Windows yet, so being able to run XP or Vista on the same system makes it a no brainer if you ask me. |
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Mac Pro CPU 2.4-GHz Core 2 Duo T7700 processor Ram 4 gigs Video Card nVidia GeForce 8600M GT PC World compared it to Gateway E-265M which PC World said the Mac beat by 1 point Gateway E-265M CPU 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 (giving the mac a .2 ghz advantage) Ram 2 gigs (giving the mac a 2 gig ram advantage) Video Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD2300 (clear advantage to mac) So, stating that Vista runs faster on a Mac is a half truth seeing how they did not run the test on equally equipped systems. As I already stated in this thread, hardware is hardware is hardware, Intel, nVidea and Samsung do not make special CPU's, Vid Crads and Ram for apple/microsoft |
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That's not the reason why people switch. There's no point in arguing about it. It's a preference. My opinion, what works best for me. These threads always pop up and you're always the one to holler the loudest against people buying Macs. Look at the number of people switching over. More will continue to do so. I prefer working in OSX over everything else. I still need Windows. For me, and probably anyone else in my shoes...going with the Mac and being able to run both (or anything else for that matter) is a no brainer for those of us with them already ![]() |
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How many people do you hear about wanting to switch, but not being able to because of some random obscure app that their work requires them to use? With VMWare, Parallels, or dual booting they can.
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If I switch to anything, it'll probably be Ubuntu.
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I'd prefer using this over Windows, so long as all my programs worked. But it just doesn't quite compare to OSX just yet.
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with MAC you stock with APPLE and the shitty service they have. with a PC you can get parts from many different vendors and not have to buy it from one specific vendor. people think apple is this savor that is so good and will rescue us from Apple but in reality they are worst cause you buy it and you are stock with Apple. APPLE to the computer industry is like Bush to the United States. |
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PC for me. There's simply more programs for it and easier to find.
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I stick with PCs because I build my own boxes, the only branded/canned PC I've ever purchased was a laptop.
I can't really say much about the interface because the last time I used a Mac it had a black and white screen and a huge 10MB SCSI drive for storage. I use FreeBSD extensively on my servers so OSX could either be very familiar, or just different enough to be annoying (imagine changing from a Ford to a BMW and hitting the wipers instead of the turn signal) I'd be interested in trying a Mac one day, I'm just not keen on rebuying licences to the software that I already own, some of which do not have an OS-crossover upgrade available. |
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See MS decided to let the user determine the hardware he uses with the OS. Apple FORCES you to buy a Mac to run their OS. Which is why even after 30 years Apple is only 4% of the PC market and Microsoft has the dominate OS. Steve Jobs is a retard. If he had been smart he'd make Apple's OS available to anyone and perhaps THEY would be the dominate OS and have more than a 4% share of the computer market. See maybe if people could actually TRY the OS first maybe we'd decide then to try a Mac. See unless some miracle happens Apple will never be more than 20% of the market and that would really be pushing it. Doesn't it make sense to offer you OS to the 80% who will NEVER switch? I guess Apple doesn't like money because that potentially BILLIONS of extra $$$ in revenue. |
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Sorry whore I don't give a fuck you own a Mac. I don't care if you ever use a PC again. You can't find ONE post where I ever tried to convert a Mac user to a PC. Number converting over? Yeah ok from 3% to 4% only took 30 years. Yes Macs are computers for idiots. Fortuneately I'm not an idiot so I'm fine with a PC. I guess if someone is an idiot they should get a Mac. |
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Not to mention, most desktop marketshare numbers dont include laptop sales, where Apple is something like 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 of every laptop sold.
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And just for a little bit of other info... It also works with you Iphoto, and can also let you store or "work" pictures anywhere you like and reference them... you can even work with those images if they are say, on a firewire drive that you don't have with you.... If your working on a mac... and do any kind of photography... do yourself a favor and at least download the 30 day full trial. BTW... my current aperture library has 160,000+ images in it. On an Imac with 3 gigs. The pictures alone take up around 100 gig, and I store them on an external firewire drive, backed up to a second external firewire drive... Works flawlessly.
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I'm using PC... dunno why
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build the pc yourself, then install a triple boot system (XP/Vista-Ubuntu-Mac Leopard)....more bang 4 your buck....
If you buy a notebook, format it and install a triple boot sys. Case closed.....
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just to add my 2 cents, seen Leopard crashed into BSOD (well it looks different than Windows, but the same thing).
Tried Mac a few times, but found it too colorfull, too stylish, missing all my little applications I daily use, hated all those big flashy icons (my windows are stripped to W95 look and feel - i work on it, not masturbate on colors). Using them in emulation is not for me (as with Linux). Had a funny talk with a friend about widgets crap, he was soooooo excited about them - so I asked how many times in the day do you see a desktop? Once when I start the computer... I really work on that think. Bacically my WXP are installed for 4 years without reinstall, I have a lots of shit installed and it's stable. Didnt see anything on OSX except flashy colors, that I don't get on PC... And my HW i tend to buy used is dirt cheap. Mac HW is overpriced. Funny is, ehan people say "Mac HW is better than other" - 99% of Mac HW is simply branded OEM, which runs in normal PC - but with Apple marketing price premium... If you dont need any PC specific things and you like to be IN, stylish and cool, go for Mac. It works. But it does not give you a blowjob and it does not make your kids smart. It's only an expensive computer |
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Instead of upgrading to Vista I bought a mac. I couldn't be happier and I'm way more productive. Still can run windows if I need it, but hardly ever do. I have all the apps I used in Windows, and not to mention a *nix command line.
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speaking to a few people they shared my feelings that Apple's service and more so with the IPOD is "yeah we'll service you but you lucky we are" |
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although you can install OSX on a PC it will not work fully until you have exact same hardware as the Mac..
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I was messing around in the Unix command prompt, using SU and I don't know a damn think about Unix... (Trying to learn) and I ran a command that fucked up my OS. Off the top of my head I don't even remember what it was... anyways, it left me with a unbootable machine... That OPPPPPS I had for got to backup in about a month. MAde an appointment at the "genius" bar Fired up "disk warrior" and made a Firewire HD clone of my machines main drive to keep anything I had not backed up before, Thinking that I could at least manually restore later... and took the thing in, they reloaded the OS on top of itself, and The machine was fine. Did not need to reinstall anything. (my original system disks were 2 years old and I needed the current OS) My point? They did this again for free. No hassle, no whining... just took care of it and saved me a ton of time and work. I keep a bootable 80 gig USB2 Iomega external HD now copied via Diskwarrior, so if I ever do something stupid again it just a matter of firing up the diskwarrior CD and re "Ghosting" my main system Dive. (I have a 250 Lacie firewire drive doing the same on my Imac.) Cheap security. Plus if I really wanted to I can toss the Drives into my laptop case and simply plug it into anyone elses mac, boot to it and I have my full system right there. (You can also do this with Ipods) 3Rd Case... I was out dropped my battery for my macbook. (I had it out cause I was looking up the serial number before I realize that this can be done within the Os duh) anyway.. It dented the battery and put quite a few scratches in it. Apple gave me a new one just for asking. I walked up the the genius bar, didn't even have an appointment this time, just happen to only be a few blocks from the place, and they took a look at the battery and simply reached under the desk and grabbed a new one for me. No Charge again. You can say they must have like my voice or what ever... but here are 3 different examples that I have personally dealt with, each with different people including the phone support and had no hassle what so ever, in fact, they went way above board, as the last 2 times they could have charged me for the out of warranty service but didn't. Are there hassles, sure... I dont like the fact that you pretty much have to have an Ipod or Iphone serviced to replace the battery... But than again, I usually stay on top of things and I would most likely be replacing those type of devices well before the batteries ever gave up the ghost. From personal experience Mac's have me as a customer for life.
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I just spit up a bit in my mouth when I read this .. I was a PC guy through and through for 11 years ... loved and swore by them . knew all the in's and out's .. built and truly trusted my PC's ..4 months ago .. I got a Vista installed PC just to keep up with the jones .. well let me tell you .. NEVER AGAIN will I ever in my life go back .. I got a beautiful 17" MACBook Pro bumped it up a bit .. 4Gb ram .. am able to run XP Pro on it through "Vuse" if i need to do any .exe file applications .. but truth be told .. after the week or so of getting used to some of the awesome functions .. this i buy far superior to any PC i have ever had ...faster ..smoother .. no hicups .. no waiting .. no problems what so ever .. I feel like i was in the dark about what and how my computers ran .."Oh this PC is screeming . " no way .. MAC absolutely kills PC no question .. I have and am doing everything i can to switch every one in my company over .. to MAC .. just my opinion ..
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the same shit over last 20 years... maybe time to make something new?
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