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The real Sinatra, he knew how to tip...
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I'm not just talking about being slow or being obviously new either, I'm talking about assholes with attitude that make you feel like they're doing you a favor by being there. They don't deserve anything but the complaint I give to management. Quote:
HOWEVER, if my order is fucked up, my server should notice it and correct it before it gets to my table. He/She knows what I ordered and how I ordered it and if they made the wrong thing, didn't remove the indgredient I wanted them to, or didn't add the ingredient I wanted them to, the server should catch that. Otherwise I'm sitting there that much longer waiting to get what I wanted. Quote:
BUT it was also my mother who taught me to leave a penny on the table if the service was horrible or the server had an attitude. (If you stiff them that just says you're a cheapskate, if you leave a penny you're sending a message) 15% is standard, what I leave for standard service. I'll tip more than that if the service is exceptional, and I'll tip less than that if the service is subpar. I think that servers who go above and beyond and really bust their ass providing you with great service deserve to get paid more than the servers who just do the bare minimum, but if you want to overtip everyone because you think it makes you a better person, then so be it. |
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People who work for less than minimum wage and rely on customers to make up their lack of pay are taking a risk and they should know that. You win some, you lose some. Hopefully you come out on top at the end of the day and if not why work such a shitty job in the first place?
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I never said that they don't have to earn tips. I worked as a server for five years to support myself during college. I did a good job and stayed serving because the pay was good and most people were generous. It's just frustrating when you do a good job and go out of your way to make a pleasant experience for the guests of parties of 8 or more and they don't leave you shit because they think it's what I am already being paid to do. |
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Of course all of that being said, I don't tip at starbucks or really anywhere else that has a tip jar on the counter. If I have to go to a counter then this isn't a "tipping place" I don't tip cab drivers unless they help with luggage. If I don't have luggage I don't tip (I do round up to the next $ though, I'm not that bad) I also don't tip delivery drivers if there's a delivery charge added to my bill. (this is the same as the mandatory 20% gratuity IMO) I think the whole "tip" culture has gotten really out of hand...I've seen tip jars at the drive thru window at Wendy's for crying out loud. |
IF you don't tip, you're a jackass, a loser, and a tool. Make all the lame-ass justifications you want, but that's the bottom line.
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i hate to do this. i really do... but i feel it needs to be done sorry. BUT he doesn't really want to work for food he isn't really religious... so he didnt reallly mean the "god bless you" part and he isn't a veteran. :( he is just a an addicted/disturbed predator who targets people like you. you are in that group who are the most selfish. you are in that group of those selfish people who enable junkies and alcoholics, so you can feel good about yourself for a fleeting moment at the expense of the misery you perpetuate in others. |
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wtf is up with this thread lol
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The don't tip/do tip argument is crazy. Service should ONLY be tipped according to the quality given. You get a teeny basic wage because doing your job well makes it pretty decent via tips. If you do not do your job properly then you deserve almost nothing.
An example - take any comission based sales job. If you don't go out there, do your job well and sell shit you earn nothing and don't eat. Why on earth is the same not true of waiting staff? The way they are paid, their job and their earnings are related to the service they give, so reward them accordingly. Those that can't be bothered to do their job deserve little or nothing much as the bad sales guy does. Bottom line is if you are incapable of doing your job well then you should not be doing it and should certainly not be earning well from it. Those that do a decent job should be rewarded accordingly. It's how most jobs work one way or another i.e. those that perform are rewarded accordingly be it via commission, bonuses, promotion or in this case tips. As for the original poster it's been said - what an idiot. Knocking the 'obligatory' 20% off in the first place was dumb but then to publically name and attempt to shame the guy on a adult forum... I wonder how many links to this thread the guy who runs the restaurant has been sent by now? Hope the OP didn't like his waiting job there. |
I rarely get bad service because I treat the server like a person not my servant. Ive taken ice cold dont care and made them my best friend. I tip between 20% to 25% for good to better service. Also if I see a problem starting I have no problem making the manager aware early in the ballgame.
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lol he said he tips generously at least 5 times already but since it sounds like nothing is ever your fault, maybe your puter fucked up and you didnt see it. |
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But to expect someone to pay $250 on a $1000 bill out of the kindness of their heart is just pure insanity. |
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It's important to realize that regardless of what you leave, the server/sommelier still will have to declare roughly 10% of the cost of that wine as income, or suffer the real possibility being red-flagged for an audit by the IRS. As the IRS will generally audit an entire restaurant and not an individual server, most restaurants insist, as an unspoken condition of employment, that front-end service staff declare at least that minimum 10% of total sales - food, wine, or whatever. And then, there's also the likelihood that the server/sommelier will have to tip out 5-8% of the cost of that wine, regardless of what you actually leave, into the labor structure of the restaurant. Putting someone in a position where they have to pay to work for me is something that I, personally, don't think I'd ever want to do. One easy answer to the dilemma is to not buy a $10,000 bottle of wine at a restaurant. Buy the $10,000 bottle of wine at a winery, cellar, or whatever... bring it in to a restaurant (always a good idea to call ahead to determine their corkage policy)... pay the $10 - $50 corkage fee, and enjoy. |
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I was a waiter for many years from the time I was 17 until I was done with college around 25 and I busted ass doing it and usually got tipped well. However, it depends where you work. A waiter at Pizza hut will certainly have to work much more for the dollars than a waiter at Spago and may work just as hard or harder. Now that I have money, I sympathize for waiters at lower price restaurants, especially when they bust ass and are nice. I tip well, usually 25%-30% at these places. However, at higher class and much more expensive restaurants, you often run into snottier waiters, bartenders and hosts.
Just because you want to charge me $150 for a fucking 16oz ribe-eye, does not mean you are going to get $30 (20%) for bringing me the plate. If you want 20%, you are going to have to be really cool, work really hard and justify the price of your over priced food. If you add 20% because I have more than 8 people or something like that, I will tell you to go blow yourself. I will tip what I feel your service was worth, whether it is 1 person or 20 in my party. Mitch |
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I remember burger king hitting the news some time back making its workers clock off when it wasen't busy and then clock on when it was but only payed them when they clocked on but expected them there all day regardless. Capitalism is about money and more money and making more money it dosen't recognise greed or retraint. Its all a cheating game by everyone to help themselves to a bigger slice of the pie at the end of the day. |
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