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50... .. . "You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat."

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smutnut

huh? Can't you just shove it up his ass and have a fur ball spit out where you want it?

picXX

What a bunch of crap!
If you can't work it out with a service than wait for the check to arrive.
How hard is that?

Diligent

picXX: use your imagination...



Let's say there are people here sending maybe... 5 joins/month to their sponsors, on average...
but are sending 10+ sponsors roughly the same amount of traffic!

Or, just ONE join per month on average to a WHOLE LOT of sponsors, like 50+... (maybe focusing on fewer though)...

How handy do You think checks are then?

Wires on the other hand are a lot better in such scenarios... but a stable service like this is wanted & needed for many affiliates, especially non-US.

Go PayAgent!!!
*I'm* with You in a while.

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picXX

At most banks you don't pay pr. check you cash in, but for per transaction.
If you are using checks or epass, the min. payout from the sponsor must be reach in any way.

Now, explain this for me again...could you?

Varius

What about all the webmasters and affiliates worldwide who have problems cashing US checks (either their banks refuse or it's held for weeks/months)? Checks getting lost in the mail or even stolen form the mail....Checks are old-school and it's time to move on from them.

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TidalWave

make their be a "epass to payagent instant transfer" method :p

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Chio

Funding and withdrawals via paypal and epass to and from payagent is a planned feature.

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Diligent

Of course.

Actually, in many countries (mine included) outside the U.S. ... banks want to charge *per check* You come in with.
Especially *individuals* cashing in "foreign high-risk" checks, quite a lot of affiliates working as individuals.

You're right regarding the minimum payouts, but wouldn't You agree it's inefficient as hell, sitting outside the US, waiting say..
6 weeks for the cash? That cash *could* be available 6 weeks EARLIER... to do some further business with.

Apart from that, Varius said VERY reasonable things on the topic as well.

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basschick

some of my clients don't have epassporte, so i can't wait for the verifiedcharge/payagent debit cards.

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Christina Muller

Diligent,

I think some people dont understand or think what its like to cash a check in usa$ in other countries.

But if you sent them a check in indian rupees then they would get the idea !

Lets see how thier banks would handle this.

I talk to promoters and program owners so many times and I keep telling them its the worldwide web and the more you make payments and systems flexible for both buyers and affliates WORLDWIDE you more $$$ you will make over your competitors.

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payagent makes me wet

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DamageX

Wow, you managed to kick in a weak spam in a serious thread... Congrats, your parents must be very proud of you.

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smutnut

Exactly. Maybe that poor guy is still waiting for his first sign up. If you only worked with one Sponser. Epassporte wouldn't even have a reason to exist

picXX

I don't think so PP.
I allso cash in US$ checks outside of the US.

However, when someone is sooo not happy with a service, they should look at other methods to get their payment (maybe chacks aint that bad at all compered to epass?) If someone can't wait 6-8-10 weeks on their payment, maybe it's about time to look around for a part time at the nearest burger flipping store?

smutnut

You bring up some good points, but...

Why should anyone have to wait 6-8-(good God!)10 weeks on their payments when people who are supposed to be making sure you get it on time are being paid weekly checks to begin with.

No matter how you look at it, it's the principle of the thing

smutnut

The second thing is, on the rare occassions when it's running properly, it's a pretty good system for collecting your smaller checks and not having to worry about them getting lost in the mail.

On the other hand, you'd get your checks faster (the ones that didn't get lost) if you didn't deal with them. I got involved with them when I was relocating and switching addresses. I probably should have pulled out when the problems first began

Varius

Be careful how you word things on the site, I wanted once to make a transfer site (ie. a site where people could exchange epass<->pypal<->neteller etc...) but it's against most of their terms an they would shut down the accounts. I suspect it's why no one has made such a type of exhcange site yet (aside from a few amateur looking ones that probably don't know about the terms).

Funding will be no issue, but if they see you accept funding and then allowing withdrawals across the same types, you get into money laundering areas you probably don't wish to deal with.

An example would be a poker site, where I play they accept many forms of funding, but if I fund with epassporte I have to withdraw it via epassporte I can't witdhraw it with say Neteller.

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Klen

Btw Chio did you make ach and epass support in system (for depositing funds)

smutnut

How do you fund with paypal if they don't work adult? Also why would you work epass when that's the major problem? Just curious about these two things

Varius

Was replying to Chio's comment that he will accept funding and withdrawing by paypal and epassporte and offering him some advice on potential issues with that idea. For my service, I won't be accepting those two methods as funding at least not as things stand right now.

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smutnut

Oh, cool just checking. If my problem is not worked out with epass by the end of next week, I'm going to write them off as a business expense, go through each and every sponsor and set them back to US Postal and then start devoting 50&#37; of my webmastering to at least try and cost them the way they are costing me (when actually they're doing me a favor cause I could use a good write off this year - but again, the principle is killing me)

smutnut

And one, more thing... Hang on sec and I'll be back with it.

Chio

ACH is in.

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smutnut

Here's what I'm thinking. If things don't work out in a relatively short amount of time, a nice anti-epassporte campaign might me necessary - something like free hard links for anyone who can explain exactly why epassporte sucks.

I'm open to good suggestions here.

papill0n

smutnut

You do know your post is 404, right, but thanks for helping keep the thread going. I still haven't seen a nickle but expecting to next week. If not then I'm declaring all out war.

stingy

this is good news... competition = good service... when is this coming out?

DamageX

EVERYONE knows why Epassporte sucks and how big of a clusterfuck their operation really is. If it weren't for AUTOMATED electronic processes, they'd be in the shitter so deep they'd stink from half-way across the globe. Now getting people to drop them is a whole different story, since they've pretty much enjoyed a monopoly, until now.

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