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U.S. Army General Says Flight 77 Did Not Hit Pentagon
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...D=10954 91770

Pentagon security camera footage - Check from 1:26
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1HCSnuwIwB0

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Dollarmansteve

Albert Stubblebine is a known crack-pot. Research the source.

here's some alternate reading: www.flight77.info

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dav3

The frame right before the explosion shows the very front of a much smaller object than a 757. There is no way that is an airliner.

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tiger

I don't understand how anyone could think that is a plane hitting the pentagon. I'm not going to try and guess what it actually was but the video footage doesn't look like a plane and neither does the aftermath of the crash.

I also have a hard time believing that any plane could get with in range of hitting the head quarters for our national defense.

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EZRhino

I guess the hundreds of witnesses on the freeway dont count.

JasonB

the 100's of witesses that can't seem to agree on anything?

V_RocKs

I guess we will never know...

Did the US Gov't fire a missile at its own building?

bronco67

that could easily be the tip of a wing. The horrible frame rate doesn't let us see much. There's only one frame where the object is visible, plus it was moving very fast.

Anyway, it's not a missle, jackasses.

sltr

THANK YOU!

now the lid is blown right off this whole thing, it's waaay past time someone told us all the truth!


THANK YOU FOR THE LINK! IT'S LIKE YOU ARE A LINK HERO !!

_Richard_

seems like something is missing from that video

After Shock Media

Everyone already knows or should know that eye witnesses are the absolute worst type of evidence. Does not matter if its just 1 or 300. With just one they are often wrong, and each on you add in just messes it up more and more.

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aico

the only thing I got from that video is that the Pentagon needs to put a polarized filter on their cameras.

Scootermuze

Here you have Mike Walter, a reporter that was on the scene saying it looked like a cruise missile with wings.. shortly after it happened..

Then a few years later his story changes... Hmm.. wonder why..

And if you want to look for it on the Bureau of transportation's site... the flight schedule shows that flight 77 never even left the ground on 9/11 ..

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I was just watching some new stuff that just came out. Blows your fucking mind right out of the water ... the real deal !

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96ukssob

did you watch the shit on the history channel last night about this? some of the conspiracy people are idiots with what they have as "evidence."

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xmas13

I find it hard to believe that a commercial airplane could have hit the Pentagon. It would have not happened in 1940, let alone in 2001.

Thanks for the vids.

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xmas13

Did you watch the flight schedule and the two different testimonies from the same guy?

Stop supporting criminals. The Pentagon, Bush and the CIA are terrorists.

NO DOUBT about it.

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96ukssob

I dont think its possible to take one side or the other. Im sure there was some "help" from the inside on doing something, everything seems to happen to perfectly. But until someone comes up with some hardcore evidence, i dont believe either side.

There is good supporting evidence from both sides tho, dont get me wrong. But even IF it was planned, that would never ever come foward and the govt would continue to deny it. Honestly, do you ever think they would?

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Scootermuze

That's why the gov't loves all the conspiracy theories being thrown about.. After awhile, there are so many stories going around that nobody knows what to believe and just throw their hands up..

Dirty F

So you are saying that seconds after the crash they planted massive pieces of the plane in the building and the grass outside? Pieces youd have to lift with a machine?

Dont you feel like...you know...a retard when you think of that?

pocketkangaroo

Stubblebine believed that he could find a way to walk through walls if he honed his psychic abilities enough. He created a lab for the military that was trying to train soldiers in the ability to kill using their minds. They brought in goats for these experiments.

You couldn't pick a bigger fucking loon than Stubblebine.

Dirty F

Dirty F

Yeah they did dude. They fired a missile through an area thats full of people. That missile managed to knock down some streetlights then they made a plane and all its passengers dissapear and then they planted some plane debris in and outside the Pentagon while everybody was watching.

like a landing gear part.

Scootermuze

Well a commercial plane could hit it... but not where one with a 135 ft. wingspan could all get pulled into a so-so sized hole.. Especially with 2, 6 ton engines made to some extent of titanium.. and designed to break away on impact..

But... that doesn't matter... CNN said a 757... so it must have been...

Even though Rumsfeld himself said it was a missile..

EZRhino

OMG, this is the shit that really burns me up, liberal conspiracy people that will lie through their teeth. Here is the same video but with the Mike Walters commenting. Noticed that original conspiracy video cuts out the beginining of his statement. Mike Walters

Dirty F

Oh yeah and ofcourse Bush, who did this all, had a really good reason to use a missile instead of a plane. I mean he had 2 planes take down the WTC towers and one plane going to the Pentagon and then suddenly he figured "you know what, lets make that plane dissapear and use a missile instead". Figure out the good reason. Oh wait, you cant. Because it doesnt make any sense whatsoever.

Rochard

Huge Drama!

The Governement lied!

Three are no terrorists!

Whatfuckingeveralready.

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Pleasurepays

this is the method of conspiracy theorists. they attach themselves to anything and everyone that raises questions that support THEIR paranoid and delusional world view... if you challenge them, they simply start demanding explanations from YOU that satisfy THEM... which never happens of course because the better you do that, the more they are forced to just start babbling about how you "just don't get it", your "brainwashed", your "sheep" etc.

its all very convenient and nice for idiots.

you can't disprove a negative. thats the shameful power of conspiracy theories.

Dirty F

All these people who were on flight 77 were working for Bush as well? As well as all their families? Where are they now?

CREW

Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He is survived by a wife, a daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.

David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered," his neighbor Travis White, told The Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some day."

Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. She left behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.

Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.

Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.

Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.


PASSENGERS

Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.

Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.

M.J. Booth

Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.

William Caswell

Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Eddie Dillard

Charles Droz

Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.

Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.

Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."

Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.

Dee Flagg

Richard Gabriel

Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.

Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.

Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.

Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.

Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it with others," he said.

Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo, California.

Yvonne Kennedy

Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.

Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.

Norma Langsteuerle

Dong Lee

Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate director of clinical research for a biotech firm.

Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was married and had two children. Newton was on his way back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow Labrador, who had been left behind until they could settle into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.

Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.

Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.

Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.

Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.

Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.

John Sammartino

Diane Simmons

George Simmons

Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to start work.

Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.

Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.

Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.

John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.

Vicki Yancey

Shuyin Yang

Yuguag Zheng

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One thing all the conspiracy nuts fail to realize also is....The policy of the FAA toward hijacking at the time made this entire thing completely "doable". My brother is an air traffic controller and he tells me that the policy back then was to "Give them Control" when you get hijacked. It wasn't even in the game plan that someone would fly into a building or the ground ( Not to mention he is still using software from the 60's ).

They could of easily done a number of things to stop the hijacking like climbing quickly knocking everyone unconscious including the terrorists. The policy was to give them control and let them do what they wanted. We were asking for it plain and simple and it was just a matter of time. Israel has been dealing with hijacking for years and they knew it. Why didn't the US ? If anything the "administration" is guilty of being CLUELESS !

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dav3

Look how low that 'plane' was to the gound. Do you really think it would be that easy for a radical islamic dumbass, who never flew an aircraft as big as a 757 before, to fly that low to the ground and be able to hit that building.

Maybe if the plane had hit with some kind of angle on it, I would find that acceptible. But it's streaking across the ground.

Plus, one of you guys mentioned that it took out light posts on it's way. Don't you think that would have thrown the pilot a bit off his course? Sheared off a wing and made it nose dive prematurely? But no, the object continued at it's low-flying flat trajectory. Amazing pilot he was, especially for a first time 757 pilot.

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Dirty F

See, and this is why you guys are idiots. Because everytime something looks impossible to YOU, yes YOU then it suddenly because proof in your eyes thats not possible.

Let me tell you something simpleton: Half a year ago or so they showed a docu on Dutch tv where they let some random dude fly with a 757 simulator and let him follow the traject the plane flew and eventually crash into the Pentagon. He had very little problems doing so. And this is something i saw with my own eyes instead of you and your theories you made up in your head because you think something is not possible.

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EZRhino

That must have been tough, he would need to attend some school to teach you how to fly at jet or something. And maybe just maybe if he had access to a flight simulator to practice landing and low flying. That could happen. Oh wait he did. Holy shit. But you would need evidence for that, like maybe school records, work visa and instructors who witnessed him aksing questions about flying a larger jet. Wow, then you would have proof.

xmas13

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...ines_Flight_77

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Pleasurepays

he was training in a simulator for commercial airline pilots in addition to being a pilot.

hardly a huge stretch of the imagination. funny how 1000's of commercial airline pilots aren't supporting you in this.


its a 757 doing 500 mph.... not a bicycle doing 20. apparently you have no concept of what you are talking about ... thats like saying "wouldn't those leaves throw the .50 caliber bullet off course 5 feet in front of its target."





ITS VERY FUNNY THAT

people here, most of which can barely feed themselves, turn into instant physics majors, demolition experts, commercial airline pilots and structural engineers when 9/11 comes up

Scootermuze

Ok.. my bad.. I've only seen the one I referred to... But for him to say the wings folded back is a bit much to swallow...
Try to picture that in your mind... At 500 mph, wings of that length wouldn't have the time nor ability to react in any way but to sheer off.. especially when you have the two huge engines attached to them.. No way those 6 ton engines, traveling that fast, and designed to break away from the plane on any impact, can just change directions instantly and get pulled into a hole a number of feet from where they hit.. I just can't see that happenin' ..

dav3

You didn't see shit with your own eyes. You saw a TV show. I hate to break it to you little buddy, but most of the stuff on TV is fake. Especially, if some one aces a flight simulator first try. I've tried flight simulators before, they are fucking hard when you first try them.

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xmas13

I don't know what happened, but it's fucked up.

The area was full of cameras, but no video with the plane.

I search for photographs or camera videos, nothing.

The Pentagon is one of the most secure areas in the United States, housing the US Department of Defense.

A commercial plane is not a high tech military jet, it's relatively slow, and the Pentagon had a complete arsenal in the area. Washington DC area was well-protected.

The US government had to be involved in these attacks somehow.

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EZRhino

Its difficult to imagine yes. I am not a expert in thermal dynamics but what I have witnessed with high explosives and projectiles with extreme kenetic energy. The oddest things happen. Water that can cut through 3 inch steel, copper plate turned into motlen projectile in less then a milisecond, air pressure that can pop the top of a tank off like a jack in the box. This is possible.

Dirty F

Yeah it was fake

Idiot.

Pleasurepays

hahah.

nice.

someone on tv presenting evidence to refute your point... fake
someone on tv presenting evidence to support your point... gospel... passed down from god himself.

Pleasurepays

hahah.

nice.

someone on tv presenting evidence to refute your point... fake
someone on tv presenting evidence to support your point... gospel... passed down from god himself.

Pleasurepays

hahah.

nice.

someone on tv presenting evidence to refute your point... fake
someone on tv presenting evidence to support your point... gospel... passed down from god himself.

Pleasurepays

hahah.

nice.

someone on tv presenting evidence to refute your point... fake
someone on tv presenting evidence to support your point... gospel... passed down from god himself.

Dirty F

Why the fuck do you think the Pentagon would release any tapes whatsoever moron imbecile fuck. Jesus you are so fucking stupid. Look at your statements man. Because you didnt see any tapes the government has to be behind 9/11. Please do us all a favour and fucking shoot yourself.

xmas13

Where was the.....

- NSA

- CIA

- US Air Force

I don't buy their huge military exercise shit exactly on 9/11.

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xmas13

Yeah yeah classified information.

You should watch what a former CIA analyst says about that. It's bullshit.

The Pentagon, the President, the NSA, the CIA, they respect no law, they are doing illegal things, get caught once a week.

Classified information can be DEclassified. It's only a matter of WILL.

It has nothing to do with national security. They can release a fucking credible footage. There are pictures of the Pentagon building all over the fucking internet, and they cant release one more with this fucking plane?

The crash was not top secret

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Dirty F

How about this fucking moron:

Where did the plane and all its fucking passengers go? Everything dissapeared?
Why a missile while there was plane already heading that way. Doesnt make much sense does it. Keep ignoring if imbecile and keep making up all that stupid shit in your head because YOU dont seem to get it, which is no surprise.

xmas13

I didn't say it didn't crash or the victims didn't die

I want a fucking credible pre-crash photograph and a fucking pre-crash footage.

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