Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Post New Thread Reply

Register GFY Rules Calendar
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

 
Thread Tools
Old 09-24-2007, 12:54 AM   #101
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z View Post
Very difficult to say without having been there or talking to the white kids involved.

Could be something as simple as calm kids (who just so happened to be white) not wanting rowdy kids (who just so happened to be black) two feet from them.

It could also be a simple territory dispute. Think back to high school. You sit at the same lunch table every day, hang out in the same spot before school starts, etc...

I'm really inclined to think it was the blacks who originally turned this into a race issue, so the whites went along with it from there. It's actually pretty darn rare that a white will display racism based on skin color alone.
ok matt lmao,, why would the principal address the situation, why were nooses placed on the tree....that territorial huh? lmao,,,
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 12:59 AM   #102
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by spacedog View Post
MOST people draw a weapon hoping to deter an attack. Guess it didn't work out the way he probably hoped..

Why wasn't anyone shot? I don't know.. some people just don't have it in them to pull the trigger, maybe the conditions were not safe enough for him to make a clean shot.. maybe there were too many bystanders, maybe he wasn't psychologically capable of using a firearm on a human being..who knows.. there's many variables to consider & it's not just point & shoot like one may think.. I could shoot someone right between the eyes from 3 miles under controlled conditions, but in a convenience store parking lot there's dangers most people wouldn't consider, such as hard flat surfaces which can cause ricochet, also the fact that it's a shotgun which means it has a choke .. had it been a wide choke pattern, shot would have missed & who knows where it may have hit & apparently there were bystanders..which is a risk.. maybe he didn't feel it was safe to shoot.. maybe it was too chaotic to make a clean shot.. could be many reasons... While it was legal for him to draw the weapon, it may not be legal for him to actually fire the weapon as most states have laws against firing a weapon within a certain amount of feet within a building/dwelling..

If an angry mob was attacking me, one, they would not have gotten my weapon.. I would have fired a warning & called police.. had they persisted, I would have injured them somewhere below the knee.


As far as the group of white kids beating the black boy, of course they should have been charged, but that has NOTHING to do with the 6 young men in Jena who were charged with attempted murder.
spacedoog i agree with everything you said,,,but not this statement
As far as the group of white kids beating the black boy, of course they should have been charged, but that has NOTHING to do with the 6 young men in Jena who were charged with attempted murder. that why blacks are in uproar,, because why wasnt they charged,,,thats what i been trying to say to everyone in this thread...yes the black guys should got charged,, but should been tried as adult and got that excessive time...but no white counterpart recieved nothing...
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 12:59 AM   #103
spacedog
Yes that IS me. Bitch.
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 14,149
Quote:
Originally Posted by darknight View Post
i guess im a fucknut and riding that bandwagon then, and im proud of it....im goin to say this again,, they are criminals and yes they should be charged and prosecuted ..... i didny say they shouldnt be neo,, im saying what about the white kids,, why didnt they get charged,,they beat up a black kid.. thats all i was saying,..read the posts...

Did anyone even call the police for that particular incident?

Who knows why? I sure don't know why & I'm not going to make any assumptions without the facts, BUT, one COULD speculate racism.. BUT..

maybe no one called the cops
maybe the black boy didn't want to press charges
maybe the white boys family members know somebody in legal system & did whatever to hush hush it..

who fucking knows.. ask them down in Jena why..
spacedog is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:01 AM   #104
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by spacedog View Post
Did anyone even call the police for that particular incident?

Who knows why? I sure don't know why & I'm not going to make any assumptions without the facts, BUT, one COULD speculate racism.. BUT..

maybe no one called the cops
maybe the black boy didn't want to press charges
maybe the white boys family members know somebody in legal system & did whatever to hush hush it..

who fucking knows.. ask them down in Jena why..
and that why all those people went down there,,, to get an answer......
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:02 AM   #105
Matt 26z
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤
Posts: 18,481
Quote:
Originally Posted by darknight View Post
ok matt lmao,, why would the principal address the situation, why were nooses placed on the tree....that territorial huh? lmao,,,
What I'm saying is that this likely started out as a very small issue, and the black kids probably played the race card first (this is the way it usually goes, and you know it). Then the whites said, fine, you want to do the race game, we'll play. From there the whole thing would have blown up.
Matt 26z is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:02 AM   #106
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
nevermind.
__________________
hai2u

Last edited by ne0; 09-24-2007 at 01:04 AM..
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:10 AM   #107
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z View Post
What I'm saying is that this likely started out as a very small issue, and the black kids probably played the race card first (this is the way it usually goes, and you know it). Then the whites said, fine, you want to do the race game, we'll play. From there the whole thing would have blown up.
yeah, I said that, blacks are louder than everyone at first with the racism shit.
__________________
hai2u
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:10 AM   #108
spacedog
Yes that IS me. Bitch.
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 14,149
Quote:
Originally Posted by darknight View Post
and that why all those people went down there,,, to get an answer......
Do those white boys have prior convictions for violent crime like in this case?

Seems like a reason to me.. sometimes cops let people go if they have no history.. Just a possibility.. I don't know much about the other incident
spacedog is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:10 AM   #109
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplicit View Post
Darkknight - so you'd support 6 white guys beating up a black kid if the white guys felt threatend by them because the black guys were being racist towards him?

In every black ghetto theres a few white trash families who are the minorities, so they can now beatup blacks if the blacks are racist??? NO.

I want a real answer to that. I'm not fucking racist AT ALL but when people pull this bullshit they get locked up - if the white guys did this to the black guy i'd be saying lock them up too, so don't you dare pull the fucking race card on me.
so you'd support 6 white guys beating up a black kid if the white guys felt threatend by them because the black guys were being racist towards him?
yes i would........i have been in that situation in the past,,, i went to a black college, and one of my best friends at college was white man...

In every black ghetto theres a few white trash families who are the minorities, so they can now beatup blacks if the blacks are racist??? NO.
why would they,.. most families i know whom live in the demographic go through the same things black people whom live in that area go through... so they understand..

im not a bullshitter, you can call it what you want,, you dont know me from adam, and i dont know you,, im not trying change people over nite, i just want peeps to process this, and later change if the choose to do so,, everyone has an opinion and i respect it,, i respect your opinion about me being bullshit, thats your opinion,,but opinions change when you get to know a person or a situation.. dont judge a book by its cover,, read it first....
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:16 AM   #110
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z View Post
What I'm saying is that this likely started out as a very small issue, and the black kids probably played the race card first (this is the way it usually goes, and you know it). Then the whites said, fine, you want to do the race game, we'll play. From there the whole thing would have blown up.
wow, why couldnt it just be because blacks wasnt allowed to sit under the tree.. i know you have heard of traditions,,a certain way people do things,, something that has been passed on,, not all blacks play the race card, if it was played, protests would be everywhere, everyday, every minute, and every second, come on matt,..I am from the south,, there are some towns i wouldnt would be caught dead in,, that have traditions like that matt,
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:18 AM   #111
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo View Post
yeah, I said that, blacks are louder than everyone at first with the racism shit.
wow my man...do you see any racism in this situation? its screams out loud itself doesnt it?
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:21 AM   #112
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by spacedog View Post
Do those white boys have prior convictions for violent crime like in this case?

Seems like a reason to me.. sometimes cops let people go if they have no history.. Just a possibility.. I don't know much about the other incident
no i dont think they have priors....yeah sometimes.. but if your a cop in that town, and there a high alert or sense of racial tensions, what would you do, to help serve and protect your community?
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:22 AM   #113
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by darknight View Post
wow, why couldnt it just be because blacks wasnt allowed to sit under the tree.. i know you have heard of traditions,,a certain way people do things,, something that has been passed on,, not all blacks play the race card, if it was played, protests would be everywhere, everyday, every minute, and every second, come on matt,..I am from the south,, there are some towns i wouldnt would be caught dead in,, that have traditions like that matt,
dude they were allowed, no one ever said, don't sit here.
it was just frequented by white people
the kkk thing probably happened because the idiots went to the director to ask if they could go and sit, the director probably told everyone to not to be racist, and two or three retards made the stupid racist crap because that's what it is like in school, the dudes got their punition, and that's about it.
__________________
hai2u
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:25 AM   #114
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by darknight View Post
wow my man...do you see any racism in this situation? its screams out loud itself doesnt it?
am I lying? it's not racism, it's just the truth dude. we just got over this subject a page ago. white people don't bitch as much as black people do when it comes to racism crap.
__________________
hai2u
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:31 AM   #115
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo View Post
dude they were allowed, no one ever said, don't sit here.
it was just frequented by white people
the kkk thing probably happened because the idiots went to the director to ask if they could go and sit, the director probably told everyone to not to be racist, and two or three retards made the stupid racist crap because that's what it is like in school, the dudes got their punition, and that's about it.
please read,, if they were allowed why did the black freshman ask the principThe "white tree" incident
At Jena High School, about 10% of enrolled students are African Americans and more than 85% are white. Early reporting asserted that students of different races seldom sat together, although this has been disputed.[6] According to early reports, black students typically sat on bleachers near the auditorium, while white students sat under a large tree, referred to as the "white tree" or "prep tree", in the center of the school courtyard.[5] On September 22, 2007, however, the AP reported that the "white tree" was no such thing, and that according to teachers and administrators at the school, students of all races had sat under it at one time or another.[6]

During a school assembly on August 31, 2006, a black male freshman student asked permission from the principal to sit under the "white tree."[7] According to the recounting of events given by U.S. Attorney Donald Washington, the question was posed in a "jocular fashion."[8] The principal told the students they could "sit wherever they wanted."[7] The freshman and his friends then sat under the tree.[9]

The following morning, nooses (reports differ whether there were three[5] or two[6]) were discovered hanging from the tree. It has been reported that Jena's principal learned that three white students were responsible and recommended expulsion, that the board of education overruled his recommendation, and that Superintendent Roy Breithaupt agreed with the overruling. It was initially reported that the punishment was reduced to three days of in-school suspension.[5][10] According to the Associated Press, however, the three students were isolated at an alternative school for a month, and then spent two weeks on in-school suspension.[6]

The school superintendent was quoted as saying, "Adolescents play pranks. I don't think it was a threat against anybody."[11] Black residents of Jena claim that this decision stoked racial tensions that led to subsequent events.[10] However, a black teacher described seeing both white and black students "playing with [the nooses], pulling on them, jump-swinging from them, and putting their heads through them."[6]

According to U.S. Attorney Donald Washington, the FBI agents who investigated the incident, as well as federal officials who examined it, found that it "had all the markings of a hate crime." However, it wasn't prosecuted because it failed to meet federal standards required for the teens to be certified as adults.[12] Washington, a Bush appointee, is himself black.[13]

In late July 2007, U.S. Attorney Donald Washington noted that of the more than 40 statements taken regarding the assault, none mentioned the noose incident.[8] LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters stated there was no linkage between the noose incident and the beating. "When this case was brought to me and during our investigation and during the trial, there was no such linkage ever suggested. This compact story line has only been suggested after the fact."[14]

just remember this is what being reported ......we dont know what happend in jena,, we are not there,, that why people went to protest to get answers....and make the world aware of the situation..

Last edited by darknight; 09-24-2007 at 01:33 AM..
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:34 AM   #116
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo View Post
am I lying? it's not racism, it's just the truth dude. we just got over this subject a page ago. white people don't bitch as much as black people do when it comes to racism crap.
white people dont bitch about racism.. then why is there a group called the kkk....everyone bitches,,,
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:38 AM   #117
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by darknight View Post
please read,, if they were allowed why did the black freshman ask the principThe "white tree" incident
At Jena High School, about 10% of enrolled students are African Americans and more than 85% are white. Early reporting asserted that students of different races seldom sat together, although this has been disputed.[6] According to early reports, black students typically sat on bleachers near the auditorium, while white students sat under a large tree, referred to as the "white tree" or "prep tree", in the center of the school courtyard.[5] On September 22, 2007, however, the AP reported that the "white tree" was no such thing, and that according to teachers and administrators at the school, students of all races had sat under it at one time or another.[6]

During a school assembly on August 31, 2006, a black male freshman student asked permission from the principal to sit under the "white tree."[7] According to the recounting of events given by U.S. Attorney Donald Washington, the question was posed in a "jocular fashion."[8] The principal told the students they could "sit wherever they wanted."[7] The freshman and his friends then sat under the tree.[9]

The following morning, nooses (reports differ whether there were three[5] or two[6]) were discovered hanging from the tree. It has been reported that Jena's principal learned that three white students were responsible and recommended expulsion, that the board of education overruled his recommendation, and that Superintendent Roy Breithaupt agreed with the overruling. It was initially reported that the punishment was reduced to three days of in-school suspension.[5][10] According to the Associated Press, however, the three students were isolated at an alternative school for a month, and then spent two weeks on in-school suspension.[6]

The school superintendent was quoted as saying, "Adolescents play pranks. I don't think it was a threat against anybody."[11] Black residents of Jena claim that this decision stoked racial tensions that led to subsequent events.[10] However, a black teacher described seeing both white and black students "playing with [the nooses], pulling on them, jump-swinging from them, and putting their heads through them."[6]

According to U.S. Attorney Donald Washington, the FBI agents who investigated the incident, as well as federal officials who examined it, found that it "had all the markings of a hate crime." However, it wasn't prosecuted because it failed to meet federal standards required for the teens to be certified as adults.[12] Washington, a Bush appointee, is himself black.[13]

In late July 2007, U.S. Attorney Donald Washington noted that of the more than 40 statements taken regarding the assault, none mentioned the noose incident.[8] LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters stated there was no linkage between the noose incident and the beating. "When this case was brought to me and during our investigation and during the trial, there was no such linkage ever suggested. This compact story line has only been suggested after the fact."[14]

al..
I read all this shit, and this is where I got my conclusions from.
they asked because they thought it was, and this brought the 'not being allowed' thing to a whole new level.
once it's been brought to the attention of the director it got profiled as racism.
before it was just a, white sits here, and blacks sits there thing.
there are a lot of things on the discussion part of this wikipedia article that you probably missed.
like this:
Quote:
How many people could fit under this tree at a time? A small group of white students sat under it. Just like at my school, there was a picnic table that a group of black students all sat at, and no one else. We didn't call it the "black picnic table" though. People divided themselves into groups, and have one area they all gather at. Dream Focus 19:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
__________________
hai2u
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:40 AM   #118
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo View Post
I read all this shit, and this is where I got my conclusions from.
they asked because they thought it was, and this brought the 'not being allowed' thing to a whole new level.
once it's been brought to the attention of the director it got profiled as racism.
before it was just a, white sits here, and blacks sits there thing.
there are a lot of things on the discussion part of this wikipedia article that you probably missed.
like this:
ok what else did i forget,,,,so what information was forgotten from jena?
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:41 AM   #119
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by darknight View Post
white people dont bitch about racism.. then why is there a group called the kkk....everyone bitches,,,
the kkk was a racist group lead by idiotic people. that's about it.
I am not KKK, spacedog is not KKK and Matt is not KKK, yet, we are trying to tell you our point of view besides the race thing.

EDIT:
Also, I didn't say they don't bitch, they just bitch less.
__________________
hai2u

Last edited by ne0; 09-24-2007 at 01:43 AM..
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:45 AM   #120
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo View Post
the kkk was a racist group lead by idiotic people. that's about it.
I am not KKK, spacedog is not KKK and Matt is not KKK, yet, we are trying to tell you our point of view besides the race thing.
just because im black im not coming at you with the race thing, im not saying your kkk,,,please read ,,, again im not disputing the kids being charged for the crime, but what about white counterparts whom did the same thing to the black kid,, i posed a question about why they wasnt charged,,,,please read through the thread,, im not saying because im black those kids shouldnt be charged.. any person whom assualts someone should be placed in jail regardless of color, race or sex... but the white counterparts were not charged for there crimes...

Last edited by darknight; 09-24-2007 at 01:47 AM..
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:47 AM   #121
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by darknight View Post
ok what else did i forget,,,,so what information was forgotten from jena?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Je...out_the_nooses

I will quote for you:
Quote:
New Information about the nooses

It turns out that the nooses were placed there because of a high school sports match. The school the team was to play in an upcoming game's mascot was a cowboy. Several students made the nooses in order to demonstrate that the Jena team would "hang 'em high". Race probably had nothing to do with it. I got the information from a local Louisiana newspaper. ?Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.231.235.2 (talk) 17:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a source? Ophois 17:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

It has been quoted several places, like here : http://www.retrieverweekly.com/?modu...27&format=html that the nooses were in school colors. The nooses where hung on Friday Sept 1, 2006. Friday is of course high school football time. I have worked as a teacher in various high schools for 7 years, and Fridays are always crazy during football season. There is always some motto for the opponent of the week. eg: "Lock up Lexington". On Friday Sep 1 2006 Jena High School played the Avoyelles Mustangs from Moreauville, LA. [Info from Maxpreps.com] As a prior service member in the US Army 1st Cavalry Division, we saw plenty of Cavalry equipment. One such piece is the 'Neck Rope' like so: Image The properly tied neck rope does look a lot like a noose. It could be debated what a proper noose looks like. Traditional hang mans nooses have 13 coils. A horse neck lead has more like 6 coils. Yes this is splitting hairs, but the fact remains that a neck lead is a reasonable symbol for the Jena Giants to use prior to a football game against a 'Mustang' opponent. Some type of lasso seems more than appropriate. I believe I read the nooses in the White Tree were removed by custodians before the police arrived; we may never know the truth. In this age of political correctness, the noose has more evil connotations, but a lasso is just a cowboy tool. 64.234.45.87 13:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)TJ Tx

You have a good point. However, the article you gave only says that they were painted in school colors. It makes no reference to a football game or anything else. For us to suggest that it was football-related without providing a source would be speculation. However, if you find a source that covers what you said above, please post it. Ophois 13:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
__________________
hai2u
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:49 AM   #122
Xplicit
Confirmed User
 
Xplicit's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: █◄►█
Posts: 3,558
darknight so if I understand you correctly you don't want the black kids charges reduced, you want the white kids charged also?

If so, thats fair enough and reasonable. Unfortunately Al Sharpton & friends have a much more extreme reverse-racism view on this.
Xplicit is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:51 AM   #123
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplicit View Post
darknight so if I understand you correctly you don't want the black kids charges reduced, you want the white kids charged also?

If so, thats fair enough and reasonable. Unfortunately Al Sharpton & friends have a much more extreme reverse-racism view on this.
I agree with that.
it's just that the picture is not the same.
__________________
hai2u
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:53 AM   #124
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo View Post
then i will quote for you,, i put the background part of wiki,, you posted the forum part of wiki...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena_six#Background
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jena_Six
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:54 AM   #125
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
aight everyone its been fun,, but its past my bedtime,,i have to get some sleep...
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:56 AM   #126
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by darknight View Post
then i will quote for you,, i put the background part of wiki,, you posted the forum part of wiki...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena_six#Background
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jena_Six
sorry I was supposed to give the link of the talk page only and quote that part since it showed exactly how fucked up the situation could be about the tree shit.
the other link you posted is the front page.

School people does stupid shit, and that's about it.
__________________
hai2u

Last edited by ne0; 09-24-2007 at 01:57 AM..
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:57 AM   #127
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by darknight View Post
aight everyone its been fun,, but its past my bedtime,,i have to get some sleep...
yeah same here, it was nice discussing this with you. have a good night
__________________
hai2u
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:57 AM   #128
darknight
Confirmed User
 
darknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplicit View Post
darknight so if I understand you correctly you don't want the black kids charges reduced, you want the white kids charged also?

If so, thats fair enough and reasonable. Unfortunately Al Sharpton & friends have a much more extreme reverse-racism view on this.
this is what i want to happen,, the sentece for the young man is to excessive,, yes the guy got beat up .. but what bout his situation why didnt the white guys get charged.... if black guys got charged the white guys should have too, if the white guys are free, the black guys should be free, its only fair and equal..
darknight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 01:59 AM   #129
Pornwolf
Drunk and Unruly
 
Pornwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hollywood
Posts: 22,712
I believe what Sharpton, and the other protestors, want is for the charges to be commiserate with the crime. Nothing more, nothing less. That's what the whole uproar is about. That section of the country is notorious for things like this.

Sure, the guys did a bad thing by beating the kid up. On the other hand, the kid taunted the black guys with racial slurs and such not long after a black kid was beaten up because of his race as well as other racial issues that had the town on edge.

If the shoe was on the other foot and a black kid did the taunting he should have gotten his ass kicked also. I'm sure we can all agree on that.

So, with that in mind, add the fact that the kid was well enough to go on with his life later that night.

Now, do you think attempted murder fits the crime?
__________________
I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

Webair, bitches.
Pornwolf is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 02:06 AM   #130
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pornwolf View Post
Now, do you think attempted murder fits the crime?
That's just the american legal system.
The land of freedom, where you can sue everyone for about everything and lawyers advertise on TV.
__________________
hai2u
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 02:25 AM   #131
Pornwolf
Drunk and Unruly
 
Pornwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hollywood
Posts: 22,712
Quote:
Originally Posted by SplitNeo View Post
That's just the american legal system.

You are right. Our system is fucked. There are so many things wrong with it we don't even know were to begin to look for a change most of the time.

This case is one where it is clear that a part of the legal system needs to be changed. Al Sharpton and his like have cried wolf a lot of times so a lot of people are having knee jerk reactions about why people are protesting based on his involvement. On top of that, the media began this issue by running articles that reported only part of the story. So lots of of folks are saying the negros are just rabble rousing.

Well, that's not true here. This isn't about getting those boys off of the hook. It's not about punishing the white guys. The protesters are there because parts of the south has to be prodded into coming into the 21st century. They want a truly fair, balanced and EQUAL justice system. It took this case for that issue to get the attention it deserved.

By protesting and marching it sends a message to the law enforcement, judges and district attorneys that they cannot continue to do the things that have traditionally gone in down there. At least, that is their hope. I don't know if I can blame them.

Can you? I'd love to hear a counter point to this.
__________________
I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

Webair, bitches.

Last edited by Pornwolf; 09-24-2007 at 02:28 AM..
Pornwolf is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 02:47 AM   #132
ne0
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: brazil
Posts: 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pornwolf View Post
You are right. Our system is fucked. There are so many things wrong with it we don't even know were to begin to look for a change most of the time.

This case is one where it is clear that a part of the legal system needs to be changed. Al Sharpton and his like have cried wolf a lot of times so a lot of people are having knee jerk reactions about why people are protesting based on his involvement. Lots of of folks are saying the negros are just rabble rousing.

Well, that's not true here. This isn't about getting those boys off of the hook. It's not about punishing the white guys. The protesters are there because parts of the south has to be prodded into coming into the 21st century. They want a truly fair, balanced and EQUAL justice system. It took this case for that issue to get the attention it deserved.

By protesting and marching it sends a message to the law enforcement, judges and district attorneys that they cannot continue to do the things that have traditionally gone in down there. At least, that is their hope. I don't know if I can blame them.

Can you? I'd love to hear a counter point to this.
I don't blame them. It's cool to fight about freedom and all, I think if people marched/protested more we would live in a better world.
Racism is a pretty hard subject, if you stop and think, slavery still existed a few years ago... not everyone is open minded, and this is why shit starts to hit the fan.
Some people still think that black people are the scum, and some black people like to think they are being taken as scum, so they can always win discussions by saying you're just blaming them for shit because you're a racist.

I will tell you a fucked up history, it happened back in brazil.
I was walking with a friend of mine and a group of negros appeared and started to ask why my friend looked at their eyes. I was like, wtf?
and they continued, saying they were from the hood and they deserved respect, that we were playboys, and now we should give them everything we had.
the dude stole my friends hat. and told him not to look back or try to recover his hat.
when we got home my friend was asked by his mom where was his hat, and he said that it was stolen by this black dude.
his mom happened to know the other dude's mom, and went to his house, when she got there the guy told her that he stole the hat because we were racists with him and called him names.

Ok, now, how does that give you the right to steal? Or threat someone?
In the end we ended up looking bad, even though we didn't do shit, they just hit a taboo, and this is what is happening now.

Anti racism campaigns are everywhere, in the sports, on your tv and newspaper, magazines, but it happens, and will always happen, as long as you have different races, it's not just a black/white thing.
__________________
hai2u
ne0 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2007, 10:55 AM   #133
spacedog
Yes that IS me. Bitch.
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 14,149
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pornwolf View Post
Now, do you think attempted murder fits the crime?
Yes it does..

6 people repeatedly kicking an unconscious person in the face/head IS attempted murder.
spacedog is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Post New Thread Reply
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >

Bookmarks



Advertising inquiries - marketing at gfy dot com

Contact Admin - Advertise - GFY Rules - Top

©2000-, AI Media Network Inc



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000- Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.