ne0

50 jailed dudes...

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Phil

NAACP.org … this is wrong board to bitch about generalization of races. Good luck.

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darknight

you think there was no injustice,,,,lmao omg.. so its ok for someone to pull a gun on someone, a mob of people to jump on someone,,, and not get arrested or charged...but if a black person does it with a background he should get charged?

spacedog

there's alot of truth to what you say, but I can't agree with the groups of protesters claiming these 6 young men should be free just because another group whom also belongs in jail for their crimes were not charged.

The only incident outside of this one I can make an excuse for is the one involving the shotgun. It is not illegal in the state of Louisiana to draw a firearm in self defense. (while the stories of the man with shotgun & the group of men differ, what I read was that police based charges on eye witness accounts that stated that the men ran up to the man with shotgun in an offensive manner at which point he pulled gun out of vehicle.. which is legal, hence no charges)

ne0

law is out there for anyone.
first, I didn't say a BLACK person, I say everyone.
also, if you are 6x1 the dude pulls a gun, and you manage to remove it, you call the cops and they will handle this, you do not beat the dude to death.
instead they beat the dude to hell and then ran.

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darknight

wow...i think this would be right board, because what the adult industry goes though with the law about freedom of speech and expression, so i figured there would be some openminded individuals here that would understand...wow i guess i was wrong..

darknight

if you read the background this guy has been beat down previous and cops came and no one was arrested... what would you do in that situation, what would think the cops would do if that happend to you? if you didnt say black person, i guess i assumed a black person...

Phil

I you had 5 Vietnamese/Chinese/Cambodian/Jamaican/ Polish/Russian/Lebanese/Arab guys beating the shit out of your ass ,you wouldn’t be talking shit right now.

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ne0

yeah, no one was arrested, that's my point. the cop would come, see the gun, and put the charges on the proper person. or no charges at all, but this is another discussion.
I am arguing why they shouldn't have done what they did.
they are criminals, and need to be judged for their crimes.
again, the color doesn't matter, but I repeat, if it was a white person there would be no funds or petitions or rock stars donating money. and if there where, I doubt the white dude and all his family would be buying bling and posing as thugs with brand new cars bought with that money.

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ne0

exactly my point.

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spacedog

SAY WHAT! I didn't know about this.. they're posing as thugs with bling & shit they got from funds raised for legal defense???.. where?

darknight

so your telling me,, when was younger and a sibling of yours got a toy, and you didnt get that exact toy, you didnt get upset? another example.. when you was in school when you were partnered up with someone on a project you both bust your ass and you get a B,,, but the next person who did the same project recieves an A, you wouldnt be pissed?

so self defense rt, so why was the black kid charge for the gun....he was in self defense also because the gun was pulled on him? so do you think what the police reported was correct, even knowing the situation..

ne0

here:
and here:
there you go

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darknight

man wow it is not established your an idiot.(sarcastic)....u think i wouldnt be saying anything then your a fool...if they dont get charge for assaulting me then theres a problem with the system..

darknight

ok and whats your point....im talking about the situation at hand...i dont know what they did with the funds...im talking about the situation, i cant control what people do... all i know what was done affects me, and my family. Because this happen all the time in the system, and i see it everday.. and your telling me that no ones held protests and petitions for social injust for white people then i think you sadly mistaken.. since your researched what they did with the funds, why dont you reseach that....not every black person act like what you see on you tube...and not every white person wears a white hood and sheet....if your going claim you treat people equal , then treat people equal...

Phil

you cant be that stupid....

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darknight

no one was arrested the black kid was charged....yes i agree they are criminal and need to be charged, but everyone involved should be charger, not just a certain group...2 wrongs dont make a right...

darknight

what you mean why am i stupid,, what the hell have we been discussing you fuck....if you commit a crime you should be charged regardless if your fucking white black, green, red or yellow, u stupid fuck....

spacedog

The black kid was charged with THEFT of a firearm, etc because they beat him & then ran. etc..

If someone come running at me in an offensive manner such as these men did, to attack me, and I pull out my weapon to deter their offensive, I am justifiable in drawing my weapon in self defense.

The men in this situation then continued to attack & physically took the firearm away.. that is not self defense (by legal terms) because they were in attack mode PRIOR to the weapon being drawn,, This is not a case of a perp drawing a weapon on an innocent group whom then defended themselves..
(of course from their own perspective they were defending themselves from potentially being shot, but in legal terms, NO, it is NOT self defense.) (hypothetically, I'd think they were more likely thinking "Fuck that motherfucker pull gun on me motherfucker I'll kill him")


In regards to your feelings on the issue, I understand, I didn't disagree with you on those points, just presenting particular elements.

Is there racism in the legal system? YES.
Is it unfair? YES
Is it wrong? YES

Does this mean that 6 young men who tried to kill another young man because he called them a racial slur should get away with a violent crime? NO!

ne0

yeah I know exactly what's social/color differences.
I come from a third world country (brazil) and I live in the middle of pure racism war (mexico).
I understand your pain and what you can pass because of your color, I am not saying that never in the history there was protests because white people got arrested with injustice, what I am saying is that, if 6 white dudes beat the shit of a black dude, I can bet that no one would setup a fund to save their asses.
also, it would make black people go defensive and demand them to be executed or whatever because they would say it was racism.

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darknight

if the show was on the other foot..and the evidence is out there like this situation,,, .i would support the white kids...i dont know if a rock star would donate money because im not them, then why would we scream racism, if the evidence is out there...and if your spanish, you should understand what i am saying...if not let me know what your not understanding, and i will explain it to the best of my ability...

Phil

Just what I said. You are idiot. Purple, yellow or orange..

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darknight

if the shoe was on the other foot..and the evidence is out there like this situation,,, .i would support the white kids...i dont know if a rock star would donate money because im not them, then why would we scream racism, if the evidence is out there...and if your spanish, you should understand what i am saying...if not let me know what your not understanding, and i will explain it to the best of my ability...

darknight

camo,, im done talking with you,,, you dont make any sense...your dismissed
have a good nite...

ne0

I'm german :/
and they would scream racism because (sorry) it's what black people usually do.
have you ever seen any normal people call a black racist?
it's just the contrary isnt it?
I can tell you that I get called names everyday here in mexico because I am white, but I don't give a fuck.
but blacks get all butt hurt.
I don't know what's your case, and I really don't have anything about black persons. I have a lot of black friends that I miss a lot that I don't live in brazil anymore.

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spacedog

You would support, or whoever may support, but what he's saying is LARGE GROUPS of white people wouldn't get in an outrage & CRY RACISM if 6 white boys beat up a black boy & then went to jail for it.

If the Jena 6 were white & the victim was black, this wouldn't even be a nationwide debate,, it would have been a slam dunk conviction, end of story.

ne0

e fucking xactly

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darknight

spacedogg i respect your saying, everyone is entitled to there opinion,,but if the gun was pulled in self defense, why wasnt anyone shot...if an angry mob is threatening to beat your ass, what would you do...im shooting...and answering questions later...no they shouldnt get away with a violent crime, and but what about the group of white kids that jumped on the black guy,, should they be charged too?

Phil

I really wasn’t talking to YOU … You just wanted to be “part of it”.. Don’t blame you. Mr. anonymous.

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darknight

There you go again, thinking im someone else,, get over yourself...fareal....

darknight

why wouldnt they do that, they have the right too...or they dont want to be concerned with social injustice in the sytem,, and you actually think it would be a slam dunk in the south lol,, wow,,,study up on your history my man, american history,,

Phil

You can’t be THAT FUCKING STUPID!!!
You show the gun to 5 bad ass mother fuckers and 90% they will run. That why in state of Texas you have a concealed weapon laws... to protect yourself from this kind of situation.

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darknight

so if you went for a job interview, and the office where went for the job was an all black office, you are qualified for the job, and they offer the to lesser qualified person whom was black, what would you scream....not all blacks get hurt,, if happens everyday in my life, i learn to survive in it,, just like others...

ne0

they don't do because it's not their fucking problem, and it's not injustice.
get over the race shit for a second and try to see the thing as it really is.

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darknight

lmao ass off,, now i understand the way you act,,, you from texas,,,you run from a shot gun,,,ok, have you heard of freeze....dont move or i blow your fucking brains out.....

Matt 26z

I'd like to know where this story really begins.

We hear that one of the blacks asked at a school assembly if blacks can go under the tree. What brought that question on?

Something tells me the whites around the tree didn't run the blacks out just because of their skin color.

Phil

Handicapped. Don’t waste your time.

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darknight

so what did run the blacks out?

ne0

they should burn the fucking tree!

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darknight

ok i can get out of the race shit for a second, but can you put yourself in my race for a second,, and see what this thing really is?

darknight

the cut the tree down, befor the national media could come cover the story about the nooses hanging from the tree..the town didnt want there dirty laundry aired around the world...

Phil

So now you have problem with entire state of Texas ? How about you relocate your ass to Siera Leone and tell us about justice there?

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darknight

lmao ,,, man your hilarious....you should get your own comedy act kramer...

darknight

i have no problem with texas, i just have a problem with you kramer...if i lived in Siera Leone i would tell you about the social injustice there, about the diamond mines, the slavery, the warlords,,,

Xplicit

Darkknight - so you'd support 6 white guys beating up a black kid if the white guys felt threatend by them because the black guys were being racist towards him?

In every black ghetto theres a few white trash families who are the minorities, so they can now beatup blacks if the blacks are racist??? NO.

I want a real answer to that. I'm not fucking racist AT ALL but when people pull this bullshit they get locked up - if the white guys did this to the black guy i'd be saying lock them up too, so don't you dare pull the fucking race card on me.

spacedog

MOST people draw a weapon hoping to deter an attack. Guess it didn't work out the way he probably hoped..

Why wasn't anyone shot? I don't know.. some people just don't have it in them to pull the trigger, maybe the conditions were not safe enough for him to make a clean shot.. maybe there were too many bystanders, maybe he wasn't psychologically capable of using a firearm on a human being..who knows.. there's many variables to consider & it's not just point & shoot like one may think.. I could shoot someone right between the eyes from 3 miles under controlled conditions, but in a convenience store parking lot there's dangers most people wouldn't consider, such as hard flat surfaces which can cause ricochet, also the fact that it's a shotgun which means it has a choke .. had it been a wide choke pattern, shot would have missed & who knows where it may have hit & apparently there were bystanders..which is a risk.. maybe he didn't feel it was safe to shoot.. maybe it was too chaotic to make a clean shot.. could be many reasons... While it was legal for him to draw the weapon, it may not be legal for him to actually fire the weapon as most states have laws against firing a weapon within a certain amount of feet within a building/dwelling..

If an angry mob was attacking me, one, they would not have gotten my weapon.. I would have fired a warning & called police.. had they persisted, I would have injured them somewhere below the knee.


As far as the group of white kids beating the black boy, of course they should have been charged, but that has NOTHING to do with the 6 young men in Jena who were charged with attempted murder.

ne0

hahaha, dude, then we will get back to the subject.
I am just trying to tell you the things the way they are. under the law they are criminals, and should be judged/convicted whatever the race they are.
you are just being as loud as everyone that is running the bandwagon to support those fucknuts.

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Matt 26z

Very difficult to say without having been there or talking to the white kids involved.

Could be something as simple as calm kids (who just so happened to be white) not wanting rowdy kids (who just so happened to be black) two feet from them.

It could also be a simple territory dispute. Think back to high school. You sit at the same lunch table every day, hang out in the same spot before school starts, etc...

I'm really inclined to think it was the blacks who originally turned this into a race issue, so the whites went along with it from there. It's actually pretty darn rare that a white will display racism based on skin color alone.

darknight

i guess im a fucknut and riding that bandwagon then, and im proud of it....im goin to say this again,, they are criminals and yes they should be charged and prosecuted ..... i didny say they shouldnt be neo,, im saying what about the white kids,, why didnt they get charged,,they beat up a black kid.. thats all i was saying,..read the posts...