Announcing: FUX.COM Amateur Porn

[Gals4free]

Hey everyone,

I would like to introduce to you our latest project WWW.FUX.COM . We have developed this site over the last 11 months, and alot of time, work and money has gone into it. We are focussing 100% on the REAL amateur market, and tried to keep an eye for detail on every aspect of the site.

Before you label us as "just-another-tube" site, i would like to mention a few things. First of all, every single asset (movie or picture) gets reviewed by our review team (thank god for outsourcing!), so you won't find any bangbros, nastydollars or other on our site, like alot of the other sites that are taking alot of heat at the moment. It's not even in our interest to do so, as we are focused on the real deal amateur porn. Our review team has also been instructed to reject any submission that looks even remotely borderline to 18. We have a very solid Terms of Service in place that covers us on every front. Being outside of the US and not being subject to the 2257 laws, also helps.

I would like to thank a few of the most competent companies I have worked with in my 5 years in adult so far.

Dickmansdesigns.com for a job well done on the design.
Virtualxs.com for being a great host. If anyone is looking into EU hosting, be sure to check them out. Lennart is great to work with!
Servergenius.nl for doing all our server and sys admin! Hans knows hit stuff.

With that said, feel free to check out the site, create an account and play with the features, and post feedback.


Steve

[Fux]

I will keep posting from this nickname now, but in order to include the urls, i needed 30 posts :P It's not secret the company behind Gals 4 Free and Jamies Galleries is behind this :P

[Vick!]

great news .. good to hear some tube owner respects copyright.

[Gals4free]

oops! I put the wrong URL for Servergenius! It's www.servergenius.com . If some mod is around and could edit that, it would be great. Doesn't look very good if people think the site of a sys admin company is down! :P

Sorry Hans :P Any promotion is good promotion right?

[ServerGenius]

Good Server Tech company that must be......www.servergenius.nl doesn't load hahahaha

Thanks Steve

[ServerGenius]

Originally Posted by Gals4free

oops! I put the wrong URL for Servergenius! It's www.servergenius.com . If some mod is around and could edit that, it would be great. Doesn't look very good if people think the site of a sys admin company is down! :P

Sorry Hans :P Any promotion is good promotion right?

Yup no worries.....bad promo on GFY is worth tripple the value of Good promo,
I'll split profit with you like we ealier agreed, we'll be filthy rich next week

[ServerGenius]

having worked with Steve and his crew I can assure everyone how much
work and effort they put in this product and the system it uses. One of the first
things I asked before getting involved in this project was to make sure this
wouldn't turn into a piracy machine with me did virtualxs.

Soon it became very clear that there was no need to worry about it. Before
we even met and talked about their project they already had planned almost
everthing out in great detail.

By the time we started working on this project and slowly turned the plan
into reality it became even more clear that this project isn't anything you
can compare to the countless video/community type of clones that popup
by 100's every day.

I can't say I am very impressed by the way and with professional and
financial scale they were confident with to set this up.....along the way
it was obvious that this is a well thought project and these guys knew
they will turn it into a successful business before they even started.

Apart from the investments made in hardware, hosting, and developement
of the software.....they took all the time needed which means more than
a few months to get it exactly right and as good as they possible could.

It takes a lot of courage to do that especially on a scale as big as this so
I have a lot of respect and admiration for the way the worked to their goal.
I can honestly say that the way this project was realised is something I
don't witness a lot.....so I wish Fux.com all the best and success which
I don't doubt they will get and I'm proud and feel privileged that I was
asked to be take a part in this......

It's not often that I post such big compliments about anyone and anyone
who knows me a little knows I'd never say this just to promote someone
and certainly not when I don't really believe it's that good.....but anyone
who will take a good look at this will see that this isn't just bro sweet talk
with nothing to back it up......

That's it.....else Steve will get too cocky and get strange fantasies and
illusions that I secretly fell in love with him and fantasize having very
wrong and bizarre sex with him.............

Oh yeah.....this love story is not only for steve but for the whole team,
I'm gonna get myself in trouble now for forgetting to mention someones name
but anyway this is for: Steve, Damian, Iain, Melany and everybody else that
I may have forget or just haven't met just yet..... Cya in Amsterdam soon
and I don't have to explain you that you're buying Dinner right?

before anyone jumps in this thread to say 'great, another tube site', steve is doing this thing right.

looks good man

[Grisey]

Nice looking site, very clean design

[sortie]

Originally Posted by Fux

I will keep posting from this nickname now, but in order to include the urls, i needed 30 posts :P It's not secret the company behind Gals 4 Free and Jamies Galleries is behind this :P

Cool!!!!

I had seen that domain a while ago and wanted to get a hold of it but couldn't.

I did get these :

FuxBux.com
Analfux.com
TVFux.com

[ServerGenius]

Bump for fux........I don't get mentioned every in other people their post....and defenitely not for things other than screwing things up

[ServerGenius]

Originally Posted by sortie

Cool!!!!

I had seen that domain a while ago and wanted to get a hold of it but couldn't.

I did get these :

FuxBux.com
Analfux.com
TVFux.com

I'm sure the value of those will go up pretty fast.......I'd hold on to them
for a while.....but I'm sure you already came up that idea yourself lol....

[ServerGenius]

steve perhaps getting a trademark would be not such a bad idea hahaha

[sortie]

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

steve perhaps getting a trademark would be not such a bad idea hahaha

Probably a waste of money actually.
I don't think trademarks are retro-active.

I don't think a newly registered trademark for "Hoo.com" would have a case against "yahoo.com" or "anyHoo.com". If I'm wrong then that's truly fucked up. How do you infringe on something that you actually thought of first?

[sortie]

Anyway, I expect a 3 letter domain with the word fuck embeded in it to
BLOW SKY FUCKING HIGH!

So, I guess I'll see you later when you're too fucking rich to give a shit about who I am. (not like you care now, but....)

PS: SEE SIG!

[cypocrypt]

Good stuff Steve

Say hi to Mel from me

R

[Chris]

i really didnt dig to deep into it but how is the site gonna make money?
didnt see any ads on the front page??
different once you register or do you upsell a membership?

[ServerGenius]

Originally Posted by sortie

Anyway, I expect a 3 letter domain with the word fuck embeded in it to
BLOW SKY FUCKING HIGH!

So, I guess I'll see you later when you're too fucking rich to give a shit about who I am. (not like you care now, but....)

PS: SEE SIG!

I would your breath while waiting coz I'm
just a small part that helped this project a little.....the project itself isn't
part of me........so before I'll get back to you about the domains some
really unlikely events have to take place which I'd safely would qualify
as divine intervention or miracles that can't be explained.......that's
different for Steve though......so I'd lookout for him to get in touch with
you......it's a lot more likely he'll get in touch with you before I would

[ServerGenius]

Originally Posted by Chris

i really didnt dig to deep into it but how is the site gonna make money?
didnt see any ads on the front page??
different once you register or do you upsell a membership?

Good question.....I won't spill the beans but I will give you a hint....
Going live with what you see now doesn't necessarily mean there won't
follow more to this a bit later............I'm not saying there will be more
I'm just guessing

[RawAlex]

Gee, and by total chance I own amateurfux.com... go figure. It's just got a crappy free site on it for now but I think I can see the future.

My questions are this: How long do the free clips play (longer than 1 minute is a bad idea), what if anything do you have planned for affiliates, and what if anything are you doing to confirm model age, 2257 requirements, etc?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[EddiePulp]

Originally Posted by Chris

i really didnt dig to deep into it but how is the site gonna make money?
didnt see any ads on the front page??
different once you register or do you upsell a membership?

traffic = money... as long as the site gets traffic, there will be money...

[sortie]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Gee, and by total chance I own amateurfux.com... go figure. It's just got a crappy free site on it for now but I think I can see the future.

My questions are this: How long do the free clips play (longer than 1 minute is a bad idea), what if anything do you have planned for affiliates, and what if anything are you doing to confirm model age, 2257 requirements, etc?

Inquiring minds want to know.

For the last time.....SEE SIG!!

Sampe site : http://tvfux.com

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by EddiePulp

traffic = money... as long as the site gets traffic, there will be money...

megarotic is proving that isn't exactly the case, they cut their free content views down from 10 to 3 this week, likely because bandwidth costs were blowing them out, especially considering they lost some of their processing and their ability to make income.

Freeloader traffic isn't much better than chinese traffic or hitbot clicks. Guys who have already used the kleenex aren't going to be buying porn memberships.

[pornask]

Very slow loading speed...

[Elli]

Nice looking site! So are you taking amateur/solo site submissions or...?

[Fux]

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

steve perhaps getting a trademark would be not such a bad idea hahaha

Already taken care of The owner of fux.net has been trying to ignore any and all offers iv tried to make him by email/fax/phone/written (no answer), so i guess we have to look at other routes soon.

[Fux]

Originally Posted by esnem

before anyone jumps in this thread to say 'great, another tube site', steve is doing this thing right.

looks good man

Thanks for the kind words mike!

[Fux]

Originally Posted by ServerGenius

having worked with Steve and his crew I can assure everyone how much
work and effort they put in this product and the system it uses. One of the first
things I asked before getting involved in this project was to make sure this
wouldn't turn into a piracy machine with me did virtualxs.

Soon it became very clear that there was no need to worry about it. Before
we even met and talked about their project they already had planned almost
everthing out in great detail.

By the time we started working on this project and slowly turned the plan
into reality it became even more clear that this project isn't anything you
can compare to the countless video/community type of clones that popup
by 100's every day.

I can't say I am very impressed by the way and with professional and
financial scale they were confident with to set this up.....along the way
it was obvious that this is a well thought project and these guys knew
they will turn it into a successful business before they even started.

Apart from the investments made in hardware, hosting, and developement
of the software.....they took all the time needed which means more than
a few months to get it exactly right and as good as they possible could.

It takes a lot of courage to do that especially on a scale as big as this so
I have a lot of respect and admiration for the way the worked to their goal.
I can honestly say that the way this project was realised is something I
don't witness a lot.....so I wish Fux.com all the best and success which
I don't doubt they will get and I'm proud and feel privileged that I was
asked to be take a part in this......

It's not often that I post such big compliments about anyone and anyone
who knows me a little knows I'd never say this just to promote someone
and certainly not when I don't really believe it's that good.....but anyone
who will take a good look at this will see that this isn't just bro sweet talk
with nothing to back it up......

That's it.....else Steve will get too cocky and get strange fantasies and
illusions that I secretly fell in love with him and fantasize having very
wrong and bizarre sex with him.............

Oh yeah.....this love story is not only for steve but for the whole team,
I'm gonna get myself in trouble now for forgetting to mention someones name
but anyway this is for: Steve, Damian, Iain, Melany and everybody else that
I may have forget or just haven't met just yet..... Cya in Amsterdam soon
and I don't have to explain you that you're buying Dinner right?

Yep, alot of time/thought/effort/money/work has gone into this, and tried to get everything just right before launch. We also decided since day 1, that if we gonna do it, we going to do it right.

[Fux]

Originally Posted by sortie

Anyway, I expect a 3 letter domain with the word fuck embeded in it to
BLOW SKY FUCKING HIGH!

So, I guess I'll see you later when you're too fucking rich to give a shit about who I am. (not like you care now, but....)

PS: SEE SIG!

Hehe, i will always make time to sit down with anyone and everyone at a convention, or talk over ICQ. Till 5 days ago I was just a "TGP guy", and now we run FUX, it's not like im going to turn into a jacko!

[Fux]

Originally Posted by cypocrypt

Good stuff Steve

Say hi to Mel from me

R

Ric! Been a while that we saw eachother man. Hope we can swing by the States one of these months, or maybe you will finally get your ass to Spain!

[Fux]

Originally Posted by Chris

i really didnt dig to deep into it but how is the site gonna make money?
didnt see any ads on the front page??
different once you register or do you upsell a membership?

Hey Chris,

You are right. At this very point in time there is absolutely no revenue model on the site. We might pop up some limited stuff over the next weeks, but our main focus is community building right now, and we have more stuff coming over the next 6 months. So the short answer, yes, this site is only producing me bills to pay at the moment. Also, registration is FREE (its like a youtube account, you get some more features, not like you gotta pay there). I am not sure if that is obvious enough right now.

Steve

[Fux]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Gee, and by total chance I own amateurfux.com... go figure. It's just got a crappy free site on it for now but I think I can see the future.

My questions are this: How long do the free clips play (longer than 1 minute is a bad idea), what if anything do you have planned for affiliates, and what if anything are you doing to confirm model age, 2257 requirements, etc?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Right now the free clips play at full length, be it logged out or logged in with a free account. We are currently already tweaking things to put some sort of limitation on it for people who are logged out so:

1. They are more likely to sign up
2. If people don't even sign up for a free account, then screw em.

As far as working with affiliates goes, even with the revenue model we have coming in a few month, I am not sure how we will be able to integrate it with FUX. We might just keep growing our advertising limits, and perhaps set up PPC or per free confirmed registration on the site.

As to answer your last question, which I was sure was going to be raised in this topic. Right now, yes the site is "wide open" for people to submit to. However, we have a very solid TOS in place, and people need to confirm their age when signing up for an account. On top of that, every single asset that gets uploaded, gets reviewed manually. So anything even remotely doubtfull, gets declined. For the coming versions, we will have even more "checkpoints" in place, as people will have to email/fax/mail us a signed Model release and Valid ID. I am not going to spoil anything more about the coming versions though, so you guys will have to wait it out for that one.

[Fux]

Originally Posted by pornask

Very slow loading speed...

That is strange. Where are you located. Thats something for Hans to look into. I just checked the Bandwidth graphs, and don't see any abnormalities over the last hours.

[Fux]

Originally Posted by Elli

Nice looking site! So are you taking amateur/solo site submissions or...?

Hey Elli,

Right now we are only taking submissions from the absolutely REAL amateurs. Solo girl sites qualify as "produced" porn in our book, so far now we are not accepting such submissions. However, we do realize that the type of traffic base we will be building up, might be interested in such sites, so we are already working on a section where the solo girls/house wives etc, can post submissions. More about that soon.

Steve

[RawAlex]

Fux, good luck. My feeling is that unless you get right on the model age / model ID / model tracking thing, you will be in serious trouble. Without being able to prove the age of your models, no sane sponsor is going to want to be on your site, and you leave yourself open for some very nasty stuff indeed. I found stuff right off of page 1 that was in the category of "not sure":

http://www.fux.com/index.php?navigat...y=682&image=13

Just looking, I suspect she is over 18 but I have no way to tell.

I am not accusing you of anything (and that isn't the intent) but I am thinking you may have put the cart before the horse on this one. Making sure you models are all over 18 should be the number 1 priority at all times.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by Gals4free

Being outside of the US and not being subject to the 2257 laws, also helps.

Have you confirmed this above assumption with a lawyer?

[Steve Awesome]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Have you confirmed this above assumption with a lawyer?

User submitted porn is too scary for me. I'll stick with licensed content and shooting my own work. Even living in Spain doesn't mean that someone couldn't upload video of underage teenagers fucking. Once you host it -- and even worse make money off it -- then you're fuX0r3d.

[Fux]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Fux, good luck. My feeling is that unless you get right on the model age / model ID / model tracking thing, you will be in serious trouble. Without being able to prove the age of your models, no sane sponsor is going to want to be on your site, and you leave yourself open for some very nasty stuff indeed. I found stuff right off of page 1 that was in the category of "not sure":

*gay 30 post limit url thing made me remove url*

Just looking, I suspect she is over 18 but I have no way to tell.

I am not accusing you of anything (and that isn't the intent) but I am thinking you may have put the cart before the horse on this one. Making sure you models are all over 18 should be the number 1 priority at all times.

Im not going to fence of every single specific case, but as far as I see this picture doesn't even qualify as explicit. They are both wearing bikinis, and the girl who shows more later in that set is not the same one.

We have gone over all the options with our lawyers, and thanks for the concern, but things will be put in more perspective rather soon. I realize we are exploiting a bit of grey area.

Steve

[Fux]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Have you confirmed this above assumption with a lawyer?

After consulting a lawyer and piecing together our TOS, Privacy policy, custom model release etc, yes, we have gone over every possible option.

Also to further clarify, we don't have ANYTHING regarding fux.com located in US. Hosting is EU based, company and myself are EU based, and so will anything else related to the site.

[Fux]

Originally Posted by Steve Awesome

User submitted porn is too scary for me. I'll stick with licensed content and shooting my own work. Even living in Spain doesn't mean that someone couldn't upload video of underage teenagers fucking. Once you host it -- and even worse make money off it -- then you're fuX0r3d.

Before making assumptions, please READ my above posts first. Everything gets reviewed before it goes live on the site. So this is NOT the typical "user submitted porn" site, where people can upload anything and everything and it goes online.

[Elli]

Originally Posted by Fux

Hey Elli,

Right now we are only taking submissions from the absolutely REAL amateurs. Solo girl sites qualify as "produced" porn in our book, so far now we are not accepting such submissions. However, we do realize that the type of traffic base we will be building up, might be interested in such sites, so we are already working on a section where the solo girls/house wives etc, can post submissions. More about that soon.

Steve

Alrighty! Well keep us informed

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Fux

After consulting a lawyer and piecing together our TOS, Privacy policy, custom model release etc, yes, we have gone over every possible option.

Also to further clarify, we don't have ANYTHING regarding fux.com located in US. Hosting is EU based, company and myself are EU based, and so will anything else related to the site.

The law is if you make money in the US(us traffic), you have to follow 2257. Now the reality of them putting fbi guys on plane to check your records is pretty slim.

[pornask]

Originally Posted by Fux

That is strange. Where are you located. Thats something for Hans to look into. I just checked the Bandwidth graphs, and don't see any abnormalities over the last hours.

I'm in the capital of richest province in Canada - Edmonton. No video will play smoothly and I'd never bother with a site on whihc I click the video to watch and have to take off for two hours so a 2 minute video fully loads so i can watch it without interruptions...

[sortie]

Originally Posted by pornask

I'm in the capital of richest province in Canada - Edmonton. No video will play smoothly and I'd never bother with a site on whihc I click the video to watch and have to take off for two hours so a 2 minute video fully loads so i can watch it without interruptions...

The video would load faster if you put some ketchup on your fries.

[Bossman]

Originally Posted by tony404

The law is if you make money in the US(us traffic), you have to follow 2257. Now the reality of them putting fbi guys on plane to check your records is pretty slim.

Hehe... I think this will happen, once the EU puts tax agents on planes to check US companies accounting records making sure they are paying value added tax (VAT) to the EU

[Bossman]

Originally Posted by Gals4free

I would like to introduce to you our latest project WWW.FUX.COM . We have developed this site over the last 11 months, and alot of time, work and money has gone into it. We are focussing 100% on the REAL amateur market, and tried to keep an eye for detail on every aspect of the site.

Took a peek - not alot of content, but so far I did NOT see any content which was clearly stolen... thats the way it should be

Good luck

[hand-held]

Originally Posted by Fux

After consulting a lawyer and piecing together our TOS, Privacy policy, custom model release etc, yes, we have gone over every possible option.

Also to further clarify, we don't have ANYTHING regarding fux.com located in US. Hosting is EU based, company and myself are EU based, and so will anything else related to the site.

Godaddy is US based, so is Verisign. Great site though and the moderators seem to be doing a good job.

[Niktamer]

Nice work mate , we are glad to work traffic with you.

[HouseHead]

Nice site I just signed up, going to test the waters.. hit me up on icq sometime

[Fux]

Originally Posted by Bossman

Hehe... I think this will happen, once the EU puts tax agents on planes to check US companies accounting records making sure they are paying value added tax (VAT) to the EU

haha, touché! I fucking hate having to hit up all the US companies we do business with to send me correct invoices for EU. (Invoice ID, Invoice date, amount, their info and my info). It's a pain in the ass.