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jreaka 09-11-2002 08:58 AM

300!

J.R. 09-11-2002 09:21 AM

I leave for Hawaii and he starts an award winning thread :1orglaugh

You just tell them, " This Nigga Gone Fishing" if anyone
calls for me
:)

NacnudEsor 09-11-2002 09:26 AM

Words of ignorance by one from the "island of criminals"

I'm gonna wipe my arse with the American flag today and think of you. HAPPY WORLD TRADE CENTER DAY!

JoeSixpack



Although this country is a free place to speak your opinions...this asshole went a bit too far. I had 6 realtives in the Trade Center area on 9/11/2001 (one on the 87th floor of tower 2) and take this very personally.

Joe, have you ever had any compassion for ones that have been through any tragedy? Were you the guy that pulled the wings off of flys as a kid? Were you the same kid that tortured the family pet when your parents were not home?

America is a country that has had it's blemishes, no doubt, but we are also the country that has sent its citizens to die in other countries in the defense of "foreigners" like yourself. If your relatives were not criminals (Australia was a colony of criminals sent there by England), you may in fact owe your pathetic existance to American soldiers that helped England kick Hitler's ass. Ponder that when you are wiping your "arse" on the American flag!

Joe, you do have your right to express your opinion here in America, and I am grateful for free speech. In fact, if not for "free speech" most of the webmasters here would not have a livleyhood. Ponder that the next time you cash a large check from your website!

God Bless America!

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself" (and ignorance, Joe)
-Sir Winston Churchill

NacnudEsor

Rose 09-11-2002 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog
Well, this thread turned to shit rather quickly. I'm not Australian, but i do live here. They're not as bad as these twits would have you believe.
I believe you. Australians are really nice people. It's just
Capt. CANGAROO TwelvePack.

Joe Sixpack 09-11-2002 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NacnudEsor
Words of ignorance by one from the "island of criminals"

I'm gonna wipe my arse with the American flag today and think of you. HAPPY WORLD TRADE CENTER DAY!

JoeSixpack



Although this country is a free place to speak your opinions...this asshole went a bit too far. I had 6 realtives in the Trade Center area on 9/11/2001 (one on the 87th floor of tower 2) and take this very personally.

Joe, have you ever had any compassion for ones that have been through any tragedy? Were you the guy that pulled the wings off of flys as a kid? Were you the same kid that tortured the family pet when your parents were not home?

America is a country that has had it's blemishes, no doubt, but we are also the country that has sent its citizens to die in other countries in the defense of "foreigners" like yourself. If your relatives were not criminals (Australia was a colony of criminals sent there by England), you may in fact owe your pathetic existance to American soldiers that helped England kick Hitler's ass. Ponder that when you are wiping your "arse" on the American flag!

Joe, you do have your right to express your opinion here in America, and I am grateful for free speech. In fact, if not for "free speech" most of the webmasters here would not have a livleyhood. Ponder that the next time you cash a large check from your website!

God Bless America!

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself" (and ignorance, Joe)
-Sir Winston Churchill
NacnudEsor


That statement was aimed at "theking" and to be honest if it upset or pissed you off I'm sorry. But those were my feelings at the time. Perhaps you should go back and read the lead-up to that statement. I admit it all got a bit childish after a while.

But you should know I'm not a fan of national flags, Australia's included. I think flag worship is ludicrous and I think those who hide behind flags (or "Holy" books) to justify atrocities or murder etc are the most cowardly of all.

By the way, I think you'll find that in fact, it is Australia who has gone to the USA's aid in many, many military conflicts over the last hundred years rather than the other way around. The only time Australia has been directly threatened was when the Japanese bombed northern Australia in WW2. Australia has a long history of fighting wars alongside other nations when we were never directly under threat.

You can read more about Australia's military history here

Juge 09-11-2002 10:03 AM

It seems to me that people dont like the USA because they are always in other people's business, trying to control things. Canada is not hated because they are just trying to keep the peace, but are not telling people what they should be doing.

I believe that with animals on this planet that can do with happen on 9/11, that they need to be kept in a pen, and told what they can and cannot do, so I am glad there is a nation like the US that is doing this.

I don't think that it is necessarily that the US is the 'lead dog' or anything - it is just that they believe they are bullying others around, and sticking their nose where it does not belong. If these primates had any brains, then the rest of the world wouldn't have to look at them like animals.

It is sad that their youth are so innocent, but because of their society, they are going to turn out to be animals, as well. They have just as much potential as the rest of us, if only they grew up in a different society.

Oh, how great it feels to be FREE!! :thumbsup

Sjayne 09-11-2002 10:07 AM

I in no way support name calling on either side of this but just for an FYI..Australia wasn't the only penal colony. Georgia (as in USA..not ex soviet) was also a penal colony. Bricks..glass houses all of that.

jreaka 09-11-2002 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sjayne
I in no way support name calling on either side of this but just for an FYI..Australia wasn't the only penal colony. Georgia (as in USA..not ex soviet) was also a penal colony. Bricks..glass houses all of that.

Mmmmmmm comparing apples and oranges. A country compared to a country's state.

NacnudEsor 09-11-2002 10:44 AM

Joesixpack

By the way, I think you'll find that in fact, it is Australia who has gone to the USA's aid in many, many military conflicts over the last hundred years rather than the other way around. The only time Australia has been directly threatened was when the Japanese bombed northern Australia in WW2. Australia has a long history of fighting wars alongside other nations when we were never directly under threat.

Funny...I have been a scholar of world history and don't remember seeing any Australians fighting with America in the American Revolution...or any other "military conflicts". Please "refesh" my memory here (if you have any documented proof), otherwise....do a bit of research before you espouse the virtues of Australian military aid. How many Americans have died on foreign soil fighting for the freedom of others they didn't know?
There are thousands of American gravesites at Normandy beach....funny....don't remember seeing any "Aussie" graves there.......

We were also in WW!, Korea, Viet Nam (unfortunately), Desert Storm...and a "few" others throughout recent history...you have the Faulklands to brag about I suppose...otherwise.
I don't know what history books they use in Australia, but I think perhaps some pages may be "missing" I will be glad to send you an accurate history book to fill in your gaps in world events if you would like!


NacnudEsor

JConway 09-11-2002 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hahmike
hopefully a passenger jet will land in your garden tomorrow morning.
Is that supposed to be ammusing?

JConway 09-11-2002 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


I'm gonna wipe my arse with the American flag today and think of you.

HAPPY WORLD TRADE CENTER DAY!

In light of what happened this is a pretty sick comment! You don't have an ounce of sympathy for those who lost love ones? You support Osama? You're a fucking pig.

jreaka 09-11-2002 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hahmike
hopefully a passenger jet will land in your garden tomorrow morning.


quote:
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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


I'm hoping for a nuke.
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You guys are Idiots, no cred. when you say stupid shit like this

Joe Sixpack 09-11-2002 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NacnudEsor
Joesixpack

By the way, I think you'll find that in fact, it is Australia who has gone to the USA's aid in many, many military conflicts over the last hundred years rather than the other way around. The only time Australia has been directly threatened was when the Japanese bombed northern Australia in WW2. Australia has a long history of fighting wars alongside other nations when we were never directly under threat.

Funny...I have been a scholar of world history and don't remember seeing any Australians fighting with America in the American Revolution...or any other "military conflicts". Please "refesh" my memory here (if you have any documented proof), otherwise....do a bit of research before you espouse the virtues of Australian military aid. How many Americans have died on foreign soil fighting for the freedom of others they didn't know?
There are thousands of American gravesites at Normandy beach....funny....don't remember seeing any "Aussie" graves there.......

We were also in WW!, Korea, Viet Nam (unfortunately), Desert Storm...and a "few" others throughout recent history...you have the Faulklands to brag about I suppose...otherwise.
I don't know what history books they use in Australia, but I think perhaps some pages may be "missing" I will be glad to send you an accurate history book to fill in your gaps in world events if you would like!
NacnudEsor

I think you are the one with the faulty history books. But I'm sure at school in the USA they only teach you about what the USA does.

Australian War Dead

A couple of other things you might like to ponder:

1. Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm were YOUR WARS... and yet Australian troops were there. The first and second world wars were (largely) in Europe but Australian troops were there. (Europe IS the other side of the planet for us) We fought the Japanese AND the Germans and we were there in 1939, not at the end of 1941.

So when was it exactly that the US was protecting OUR freedoms here in Australia?

2. Why does the French town of Villers-Bretonneux have a Kangaroo as its symbol and why do they fly the Australian flag along with the French?

drew 09-11-2002 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


I think you are the one with the faulty history books. But I'm sure at school in the USA they only teach you about what the USA does.

Australian War Dead

A couple of other things you might like to ponder:

1. Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm were YOUR WARS... and yet Australian troops were there. The first and second world wars were (largely) in Europe but Australian troops were there. (Europe IS the other side of the planet for us) We fought the Japanese AND the Germans and we were there in 1939, not at the end of 1941.

So when was it exactly that the US was protecting OUR freedoms here in Australia?

2. Why does the French town of Villers-Bretonneux have a Kangaroo as its symbol and why do they fly the Australian flag along with the French?


Please Mr.Koala educate us about mighty Australia.

Yes you were there in 1939 and you know why? Because England told you so. Australia was their colony.

"So when was it exactly that the US was protecting OUR freedoms here in Australia?"

During WWII my friend. US tied down all the Japanese naval forces in the Pacific. You dont really think you could stop Japanese invasion if those forces attacked your island.

jreaka 09-11-2002 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


2. Why does the French town of Villers-Bretonneux have a Kangaroo as its symbol and why do they fly the Australian flag along with the French?

Because the French are Idiots who Shot at the Allied forces when we went to liberate them. I woulnd't put to much stock into the French.

TarPy 09-11-2002 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


I was always under the impression that "rednecks" were always quite patriotic. Country music loving proud to be an amerikun good ol boys with pickups and American flags on their gun racks.


Nope, they have gun racks with CONFEDERATE flags on them and a black guy dragging behind their pickup truck.

I should know, my grandparents are South Carolina rednecks that hate everything not white. LOL, and they have like 40 guns in that house, it's fucking scary.

Racism isn't all bad, I've had tons of laughs with my grand father's quote "fucking grits are cold, god damn ******s" I mean try to find a connection between his grits being cold, and african americans... LOL like Martin Luther King Jr crawled in his kitchen window and put ice cubes in them or some shit... LOL I hate that man.

So, um, yea.

TarPy

jreaka 09-11-2002 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TarPy


Nope, they have gun racks with CONFEDERATE flags on them and a black guy dragging behind their pickup truck.

I should know, my grandparents are South Carolina rednecks that hate everything not white. LOL, and they have like 40 guns in that house, it's fucking scary.

Racism isn't all bad, I've had tons of laughs with my grand father's quote "fucking grits are cold, god damn ******s" I mean try to find a connection between his grits being cold, and african americans... LOL like Martin Luther King Jr crawled in his kitchen window and put ice cubes in them or some shit... LOL I hate that man.

So, um, yea.

TarPy

Shut the fuck up and go bother Daizie!

Joe Sixpack 09-11-2002 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by drew



Please Mr.Koala educate us about mighty Australia.

Yes you were there in 1939 and you know why? Because England told you so. Australia was their colony.

"So when was it exactly that the US was protecting OUR freedoms here in Australia?"

During WWII my friend. US tied down all the Japanese naval forces in the Pacific. You dont really think you could stop Japanese invasion if those forces attacked your island.

What are you on about? They were attacking you and you were fighting them and at the same time they were attacking us and we were fighting them. So you weren't protecting OUR freedoms any more than we were protecting YOURS, keeping in mind of course, that during the second world war your country had a population of 140 million while Australia had only 7.5 million.

Joe Sixpack 09-11-2002 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by drew



Please Mr.Koala educate us about mighty Australia.

Yes you were there in 1939 and you know why? Because England told you so. Australia was their colony.

Quite true. But the question still remains, if the USA is such a protector of freedoms for nations around the world why weren't you fighting the Nazi's in 1939? Or was Hitler more of a nice guy than, say, Osama bin Laden?

drew 09-11-2002 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


What are you on about? They were attacking you and you were fighting them and at the same time they were attacking us and we were fighting them. So you weren't protecting OUR freedoms any more than we were protecting YOURS, keeping in mind of course, that during the second world war your country had a population of 140 million while Australia had only 7.5 million.

Yes Mr.Koala. Japanese wanted Australia. Australia was their target. Only reason they didnt invade your island is: Their forces were tied by US forces in the Pacific. Without US forces they were free to run you over in no time.

JConway 09-11-2002 11:37 AM

Honestly, we could go rounds forever about who fought for what reasons in WWII. We all fought for freedom, we all lost lives. However anybody who doesn't think that the TURNING point of the war was when the Americans declared, then they are extremely naive.

That is not me being arrogant American, that is the fact of the War. That is not to say that America could have "won" the war without every other nation who contributed.

A little football Analogy-

The allies are down 28-0 going into the fourth quarter. In comes the back up quarterback(US) in mop up duty and leads them back to victory.

jreaka 09-11-2002 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


What are you on about? They were attacking you and you were fighting them and at the same time they were attacking us and we were fighting them. So you weren't protecting OUR freedoms any more than we were protecting YOURS, keeping in mind of course, that during the second world war your country had a population of 140 million while Australia had only 7.5 million.

Since you are so up-to date on Aussie events answer me this one tough guy.

Why do Australians hate the CrockHunter? I mean he is the best thing to come from your country since Fosters!!

JConway 09-11-2002 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jreaka


Since you are so up-to date on Aussie events answer me this one tough guy.

Why do Australians hate the CrockHunter? I mean he is the best thing to come from your country since Fosters!!

True dat!!

drew 09-11-2002 11:43 AM

CrockHunter? I love that guy. I watch him everyday on Animal Planet.:thumbsup

Joe Sixpack 09-11-2002 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by drew


Yes Mr.Koala. Japanese wanted Australia. Australia was their target. Only reason they didnt invade your island is: Their forces were tied by US forces in the Pacific. Without US forces they were free to run you over in no time.

But surely the reason for that is obvious. As a stated in my last post your WW2 population was 140 million while Australia had 7.5 million. Hardly comparable.

Besides, the USA never actually came down and defended Australia in any way. So your original point - that the US was defenfding OUR freedoms - is horseshit.

Joe Sixpack 09-11-2002 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jreaka


Since you are so up-to date on Aussie events answer me this one tough guy.

Why do Australians hate the CrockHunter? I mean he is the best thing to come from your country since Fosters!!

Because he is an over-the-top idiot who is constantly trying to get more publicity for himself. And its all put on for you foreigners. We don't really watch it here because most of us find it embarrasing.

And if Americans think that he's the best thing to come out of Australia "since Fosters" (we don't really drink much Fosters)well.... you obviously know VERY LITTLE about Australia.

JConway 09-11-2002 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Because he is an over-the-top idiot who is constantly trying to get more publicity for himself. And its all put on for you foreigners. We don't really watch it here.

One piece of advise Mr. Joe SmallPrick, put another shreemp on the bobbie, grab a cold foster's, and chill out with a little Steve Irwin. He's bad ass! Might teach you how to catch dinner or something.

jreaka 09-11-2002 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Because he is an over-the-top idiot who is constantly trying to get more publicity for himself. And its all put on for you foreigners. We don't really watch it here.

To bad there wasn't more over the top Idiots over there........... you might not be a Lamington then!:thumbsup

PornoDoggy 09-11-2002 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NacnudEsor
[Funny...I have been a scholar of world history and don't remember seeing any Australians fighting with America in the American Revolution...or any other "military conflicts". Please "refesh" my memory here (if you have any documented proof), otherwise....do a bit of research before you espouse the virtues of Australian military aid. How many Americans have died on foreign soil fighting for the freedom of others they didn't know?
There are thousands of American gravesites at Normandy beach....funny....don't remember seeing any "Aussie" graves there.......

We were also in WW!, Korea, Viet Nam (unfortunately), Desert Storm...and a "few" others throughout recent history...you have the Faulklands to brag about I suppose...otherwise.
I don't know what history books they use in Australia, but I think perhaps some pages may be "missing" I will be glad to send you an accurate history book to fill in your gaps in world events if you would like!


NacnudEsor [/B]
Hmmm ... not much of a scholar, are you? There wasn't an Australia during our revolution, and the Australians were well represented in WW!, Korea, Viet Nam (unfortunately), and I believe Desert Storm... There may not be an Austrialian memorial at Normandy, but there are plenty on islands throughout the pacific, not to mention North Africa. You would think that a "scholar" would realize that Australian troops went to defent their home as Americans began to appear in Africa and England, and a little trouble had broken out in the Pacific.

jreaka 09-11-2002 01:28 PM

Come on Joe 6er, no more brilliant comments?

PornoDoggy 09-11-2002 01:30 PM

Funny, I was wondering the same thing about the brilliant scholar NacnudEsor ... or is today when the new "Our Weekly Reader" comes out?

NacnudEsor 09-11-2002 03:27 PM

To quote the biggest jackass here on this posting

"1. Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm were YOUR WARS... and yet Australian troops were there. The first and second world wars were (largely) in Europe but Australian troops were there. (Europe IS the other side of the planet for us) We fought the Japanese AND the Germans and we were there in 1939, not at the end of 1941.

Well.....actually you jackass.....the Korean war and Vietnam were wars about several countries fighting over land and other countries (beside the "Island of Convicts") had been involved in the assistance (the French, if you can actually believe that, Russia, Communist China, and several other players). The US entered all of these wars afterwards. Desert Storm was about several issues that involved many nations....our true friends the Brits were there with us...The French denied us the right to fly over "Their" airspace en route to the battle......hmmmmm...kinda ironic isn't it?...They did not deny us airspace rights at Normandy Beach......

If you do a bit or reading about the history of WW2, you may discover that the end to both the European AND Pacific operations came about after the US got down to business and kicked some ass!! We got to Berlin ahead of the European Allies and took care of Japan with help from the Brits......A few Aussies fought in the pacific and were great soldiers, but the commitment in lives lost and $$$ was paltry compared to those provided by the US..so don't go espousing how great your involvement was there......you got involved because the Japanese were posing a threat to your land....not for any other reason....Unlike US intervention in Europe...we were not motivated by invasion, just the willingness to aid England the rest of Europe......and another thing......WHAT ABOUT THE WAR DEBT??? By rights, we could foreclose on most of Europe (FRANCE, for one) based on the amounts still on the books for over 50 years....Do you think your bank would allow you to default on any loans that long before taking your house?

You are free to post your opinion, and I am free to post mine...Thank god we live in a free country! Try this out in china or Cuba and see what happens?


God Bless America!


NacnudEsor

PornoDoggy 09-11-2002 04:35 PM

NacnudEsor, you just don't have a clue, do you? Korea and Vietnam were hardly wars of aggression in the conventional sense - there was a cold war aspect to both wars, of course, but essentially they both boiled down to internal politics of former colonies (Korea of Japan, Vietnam of France); while the U.S. provided the majority of troops for both wars, they were international causes - and the Australians stuck with us in Vietnam far longer than anyone else.

Newsflash - France fought beside us in Desert Storm, you simpleton. You are confusing their refusal to take part in Ronald Reagan's temper tantrum toward Libya in the 80s with Desert Storm. I know, I know - Libya, Iraq - they're just raghead arabs, right?

Your WWII "facts" reads like it comes from a poor 5th grade history book. You may have heard of the Axis - Roosevelt, the JCS and the British realized that we needed to defeat Hitler first before the war even began. A few Australians fought in the Pacific is absurd - Australia lost 29,000 men (out of a population of 7.2 million); we lost 295,000 (out of a population of 180,000,000). And our arrival in Berlin ahead of our European allies would come as a great suprise to the Russians, who captured Berlin by themselves.

Newsflash - Congress forgave the war debts in the 50s. There is nothing to foreclose.

It's a good thing you are a history scholar - I would hate to see your checkbook if you were a mathematician.

GeorgeTH 09-11-2002 04:36 PM

o.k. I'm not Australian, but I live here, and I don't agree with most of the current government policies - so don't bash me/us for what our government does!

Whereas Mr. G.W.Bush seems to represent to world what America is about: arrogance, ignorance, imcompetence...

And all this 09/11 bullshit makes me sick! It was a tragedy. o.k.
but who had a day of rememberance for all the terror victims in Ruanda (10 times/100 times as many as in NY), Angola, Ex-Yogoslawia, Uganda, Tibet, Nepal, Phillipines, the list goes on...???
And your involvement in foreign conflicts always goes as far as the American interests! America ignored or supported most of the dictators in South America and Africa, but they weren't sitting on oil wells like Sadam Hussein...

But you're so special - that's what all Americans think and that's why the worls doesn't like you... Capice?

[Labret] 09-11-2002 04:36 PM

Must be something about the name Rose

NacnudEsor
RoseDuncan

Rose, couldnt you be a little more original?

Joe Sixpack 09-11-2002 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NacnudEsor
To quote the biggest jackass here on this posting

"1. Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm were YOUR WARS... and yet Australian troops were there. The first and second world wars were (largely) in Europe but Australian troops were there. (Europe IS the other side of the planet for us) We fought the Japanese AND the Germans and we were there in 1939, not at the end of 1941.

Well.....actually you jackass.....the Korean war and Vietnam were wars about several countries fighting over land and other countries (beside the "Island of Convicts") had been involved in the assistance (the French, if you can actually believe that, Russia, Communist China, and several other players). The US entered all of these wars afterwards. Desert Storm was about several issues that involved many nations....our true friends the Brits were there with us...The French denied us the right to fly over "Their" airspace en route to the battle......hmmmmm...kinda ironic isn't it?...They did not deny us airspace rights at Normandy Beach......

If you do a bit or reading about the history of WW2, you may discover that the end to both the European AND Pacific operations came about after the US got down to business and kicked some ass!! We got to Berlin ahead of the European Allies and took care of Japan with help from the Brits......A few Aussies fought in the pacific and were great soldiers, but the commitment in lives lost and $$$ was paltry compared to those provided by the US..so don't go espousing how great your involvement was there......you got involved because the Japanese were posing a threat to your land....not for any other reason....Unlike US intervention in Europe...we were not motivated by invasion, just the willingness to aid England the rest of Europe......and another thing......WHAT ABOUT THE WAR DEBT??? By rights, we could foreclose on most of Europe (FRANCE, for one) based on the amounts still on the books for over 50 years....Do you think your bank would allow you to default on any loans that long before taking your house?

You are free to post your opinion, and I am free to post mine...Thank god we live in a free country! Try this out in china or Cuba and see what happens?


God Bless America!


NacnudEsor


You really are a moron. You are obviously incapable of following the links I posted so I'll cut and paste here.

Australia's World War Two History:

"Almost a million Australians, both men and women, served in the Second World War; Australian servicemen fought in campaigns against Germany and Italy in Europe, the Mediterranean and North Africa; and against Japan in south-east Asia and in other parts of the Pacific. The Australian mainland came under direct attack for the first time as Japanese aircraft bombed towns in north-western Australia and Japanese midget submarines attacked Sydney harbour.

The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) participated in operations against Italy after its entry into the war in June 1940. A few Australians flew in the Battle of Britain in August and September of the same year, but the Australian Army was not engaged in combat until 1941, when the 6th, 7th and 9th Divisions joined Allied operations in the Mediterranean and North Africa.

Following early successes against Italian forces, the Australians suffered defeat with the Allies at the hands of the Germans in Greece, Crete and North Africa. In June and July 1941 Australians participated in the successful Allied invasion of Syria, a mandate of France and ally of the Vichy government. Up to 14,000 Australians held out against repeated German attacks in the Libyan port of Tobruk, where they were besieged between April and August 1941. After being relieved at Tobruk, the 6th and 7th Divisions departed from the Mediterranean theatre for the war against Japan. The 9th Division remained to play an important role in the Allied victory at El Alamein in October 1942 before it, too, left for the Pacific. By the end of 1942 the only Australians remaining in the Mediterranean theatre were airmen serving either with the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) No. 3 Squadron or in the Royal Air Force.

Japan entered the war in December 1941and swiftly achieved a series of victories which resulted in the occupation of most of south-east Asia and large areas of the Pacific by the end of March 1942. Singapore fell in February, with the loss of an entire Australian division. After the bombing of Darwin that same month, all RAN ships in the Mediterranean theatre, as well as the 6th and 7th Divisions, returned to defend Australia. In response to the heightened threat, the Australian government also expanded the army and air force and called for an overhaul of economic, domestic and industrial policies to give the government special powers with which to mount a total war effort at home.

In March 1942, after the defeat of the Netherlands East Indies, Japan's southward advance began to lose strength, easing Australian fears that an invasion was imminent. Further relief came when the first AIF veterans of the Mediterranean campaigns began to come home, and when the United States assumed responsibility for the country's defence and provided reinforcements and equipment. The threat of invasion receded further as the Allies won a series of decisive battles: in the Coral Sea, at Midway, on Imita Ridge and the Kokoda Track, and at Milne Bay and Buna.

Further Allied victories against the Japanese followed in 1943. Australian troops were mainly engaged in land battles in New Guinea, the defeat of the Japanese at Wau and clearing Japanese soldiers from the Huon Peninsula - Australia's largest and most complex offensive of the war, not completed until April 1944. The Australian Army also began a new series of campaigns in 1944 against isolated Japanese garrisons stretching from Borneo to Bougainville; this involved more Australian troops than were used at any other time in the war. The first of these campaigns was fought on Bougainville, New Britain and at Aitape. The value of the second campaign, fought in Borneo in 1945, to the overall war effort remains the subject of continuing debate; Australian troops were still fighting in Borneo when the war ended in August 1945.

While Australia's major effort from 1942 onwards was directed at defeating Japan, thousands of Australians continued to serve with the RAAF in Europe and the Middle East. And even though more Australian airmen fought against the Japanese, losses among those flying against Germany were far higher. Australians were particularly prominent in Bomber Command's offensive against occupied Europe. Some 3,500 Australians were killed in this campaign, making it the costliest of the war.

Over 30,000 Australian servicemen were taken prisoner in the Second World War, and 39,000 gave their lives. Two thirds of those taken prisoner were captured by the Japanese during their advance through south-east Asia within the first few weeks of 1942. While those who became prisoners of the Germans had a strong chance of returning home at the end of the war, 36 per cent of prisoners of the Japanese died in captivity."

Your summary:
"A few Aussies fought in the pacific and were great soldiers, but the commitment in lives lost and $$$ was paltry compared to those provided by the US"

You have no clue about what you are discussing. I think you must have learnt your history off the back of a cornflakes box.

I'd shut up before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

Sly_RJ 09-11-2002 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
Must be something about the name Rose

NacnudEsor
RoseDuncan

Rose, couldnt you be a little more original?

Was waiting for someone to point that out. :thumbsup

Rose 09-11-2002 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
Must be something about the name Rose

NacnudEsor
RoseDuncan

Rose, couldnt you be a little more original?

Dear Labret sorry again, before you open your mouth "I post only under my name" and my last name is not Duncan. If you dont believe me too bad. Or you can ask wizzo to check NacnudEsor's
IP#. But I can not care less

theking 09-12-2002 01:12 AM

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I am a proud American, arrogant, and I do not know the meaning of humility. If you ran my country down to my face I would stick a flag up your ass and make you sing "Yankee Doodle Dandy".

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Sure you would.
I abosolutely would beat your ass until you loved singing it.


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Dumb fucks, pay close attention. Europe owes the USA its very existence. Forget about saving your ass in the Second World War.

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Not a fact. America did not save Europe, the coalition forces did.
I would give most credit to the UK forces.

The Euorpean forces as well as the UK would have been defeated without US intervention, period.


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Lets talk about the fact that you would all be puppets of the ex Soviet Union, if not for the trillions and trillions of dollars spent by the USA on the arms race against the Soviets, and the World Wide Nuclear umbrella provided by Amercia, that our "friends" in Europe lived under for about fifty years.

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Not a fact. The USA did not spent trillions of dollars protecting Europe, rather they spent billions of dollars protecting their own interests. I assume you are aware that some European states currently have nuclear weapons and many would be capable of producing such weapons at this very moment.
Is a fact. A single Trident class submarine costs about 1 trillion dollars and we have several as well as trillions of dollars worth of Attack Subs and that is just the cost of Submarines. We spent many trillions of dollars since the end of the Second World War containing the Soviets (which means keeping them from taking control of Europe as well as a good part of Asia). At our peak we had about 50,000 nukes, and in the thousands of ICBM's, and shorter range missiles, as well as hundreds of long range bombers armed with nukes that were airborne around the clock.


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Literally millions of our boys in the military have had to sacrifice being away from their own homes (and sometimes their lives) to live in your countries and protect your homes. What ever freedom you have or economy you have is owed entirely to the USA.

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Make that "thousands", also they were protecting the interests of the USA not because they liked the Europeans. The economy of the EU is not "owned" by the US, please check your data and see how much EU companies are investing in your stock markets.
Make that several million as I stated. We had in the hundreds of thousands troops stationed througout Europe, on any given day, since the end of the Second World and the collapse of the Soviet Union. So multiply that by about fifty years and see what you come up with, dumb fuck. Europe would not have an econmony other than what the Soviets would have allowed them to have if it were not for the umbrella of protection provided at the expense of the USA.


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This is a simple fact, so instead of knocking America and Americans, you should be thanking every American you see.

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I thank the Americans for the SUPPORT they provided and the contributions they provided to the coalition forces during the 2nd world war, not that they are currently protecting my ass from getting killed or that I owe my financial successes to them or whatever you can come up with.

Well, seems like you have been MAKING UP facts.

When you learn something try again. In the mean time I repeat.

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Dumb fucks, pay close attention. Europe owes the USA its very existence. Forget about saving your ass in the Second World War. Lets talk about the fact that you would all be puppets of the ex Soviet Union, if not for the trillions and trillions of dollars spent by the USA on the arms race against the Soviets, and the World Wide Nuclear umbrella provided by Amercia, that our "friends" in Europe lived under for about fifty years. Literally millions of our boys in the military have had to sacrifice being away from their own homes (and sometimes their lives) to live in your countries and protect your homes. What ever freedom you have or economy you have is owed entirely to the USA. This is a simple fact, so instead of knocking America and Americans, you should be thanking every American you see.
There is not a single European that can dispute the truth of the statement above. ControlThy is a dumb fucker, even among European, America bashing assholes.

theking 09-12-2002 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Quite true. But the question still remains, if the USA is such a protector of freedoms for nations around the world why weren't you fighting the Nazi's in 1939? Or was Hitler more of a nice guy than, say, Osama bin Laden?

We, mistakenly, did not think that the Europeans were such fucking pansies that they couldn't whip one country run by an egomaniacal idiot. When we saw that most of Europe quickly raised their hands in surrender and that little England was the only one left standing, big brother stepped into the ring.

You are even dumber than ControThy. The Aussies are good people, among which I am sure you are an outcast.

ControlThy 09-12-2002 02:13 AM

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By theking:

Is a fact. A single Trident class submarine costs about 1 trillion dollars and we have several as well as trillions of dollars worth of Attack Subs and that is just the cost of Submarines
Sorry pal, but a Trident class submarine costs 1.9 BILLION dollars, NOT 1 TRILLION dollars.
You really have no idea what you are talking about?

The GDP of the USA is aprox. 9.5 trillion dollars, they could only buy 9 submarines using your data.

Stop it, you are SO funny.

bhutocracy 09-12-2002 02:26 AM

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Originally posted by NacnudEsor

Funny...I have been a scholar of world history and don't remember seeing any Australians fighting with America in the American Revolution...or any other "military conflicts". Please "refesh" my memory here (if you have any documented proof), otherwise....do a bit of research before you espouse the virtues of Australian military aid. How many Americans have died on foreign soil fighting for the freedom of others they didn't know?
There are thousands of American gravesites at Normandy beach....funny....don't remember seeing any "Aussie" graves there.......

We were also in WW!, Korea, Viet Nam (unfortunately), Desert Storm...and a "few" others throughout recent history...you have the Faulklands to brag about I suppose...otherwise.
I don't know what history books they use in Australia, but I think perhaps some pages may be "missing" I will be glad to send you an accurate history book to fill in your gaps in world events if you would like!


NacnudEsor

LOL this person is a joke right? a troll? no one could be wrong so many times..

Joe Sixpack 09-12-2002 02:28 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy


LOL this person is a joke right? a troll? no one could be wrong so many times..

He is a joke - real or not - that's for sure!

:1orglaugh

bhutocracy 09-12-2002 02:43 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


He is a joke - real or not - that's for sure!

:1orglaugh

:) no way.. it might not be rose but it's obviously a character.. it's too intentionally wrong.

more than twice as many aussies died than americans in WW2 in proportion to population.. we always fucking give our young to other people's wars.
We'll be in Iraq too with the US and England the only other countries you watch.
And we won't even get to share in the oil.

This is what happens when people get their history from hollywood films.
It was england that found the enigma??? psshaw.. i can't make a war movie with Hugh Grant as the lead submariner!

Joe Sixpack 09-12-2002 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy


:) no way.. it might not be rose but it's obviously a character.. it's too intentionally wrong.

more than twice as many aussies died than americans in WW2 in proportion to population.. we always fucking give our young to other people's wars.
We'll be in Iraq too with the US and England the only other countries you watch.
And we won't even get to share in the oil.

This is what happens when people get their history from hollywood films.
It was england that found the enigma??? psshaw.. i can't make a war movie with Hugh Grant as the lead submariner!


Agreed.

Whenever I think of World War 2 though the first thing that comes to mind is the Russians losing 25 million. Tough as fucking nails they were.

theking 09-12-2002 03:05 AM

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Originally posted by ControlThy


Sorry pal, but a Trident class submarine costs 1.9 BILLION dollars, NOT 1 TRILLION dollars.
You really have no idea what you are talking about?

The GDP of the USA is aprox. 9.5 trillion dollars, they could only buy 9 submarines using your data.

Stop it, you are SO funny.

As regards the cost of a Trident Class Submarine, I meant to type a billion instead of a trillion, and billions of dollars worth of attack subs instead of trillions. I did intend to say that the USA has spent trillions since the Second World War to contain the Soviets, which is a fact. Military expenditures and military research is the primary reason the National debt increased by several trillion dollars during the Reagan years. The point being, you made the statement that the USA had only spent billions and not trillions, so I was informing you that our subs alone cost billions.

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Dumb fucks, pay close attention. Europe owes the USA its very existence. Forget about saving your ass in the Second World War. Lets talk about the fact that you would all be puppets of the ex Soviet Union, if not for the trillions and trillions of dollars spent by the USA on the arms race against the Soviets, and the World Wide Nuclear umbrella provided by America, that our "friends" in Europe lived under for about fifty years. Literally millions of our boys in the military have had to sacrifice being away from their own homes (and sometimes their lives) to live in your countries and protect your homes. What ever freedom you have or economy you have is owed entirely to the USA. This is a simple fact, so instead of knocking America and Americans, you should be thanking every American you see.
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You still cannot refute the truth of the statement above.

XP 09-12-2002 03:23 AM

Dear Fuckers, back to main thread!
we discuss "Why everyone hate america(ns)!"

not world war 2, not other things

The only country, who sell money to other countries is USA!
making a 100$ paper in bulk costs 1 cent, 99 dollars, 99 cents is net revenue!

and I learned, government don't have a control on this. a non government firm have facility to make new bucks.

I have good friends from USA, I don't blame them. But fuckin' bush is trying to start World War 3 (or 4 whatever it is).
isn't spiderman learned times and times again "With great power, comes also with great responsibility". When USA senators, lobbys will learn that? isn't spiderman a hero found in USA? isn't that word %100 true?

my scenario:

Soviets will grow again, slowly but with sure steps. They'll use same foreign policy USA uses. And they'll use same terrorists against usa, which USA used bin laden & taliban against russia sometime!

from this new HOT terror war, only innocent people will suffer. Not Fuckin cowboy Bush Junior! He was escaping, because of affair to death! in 11 september 2001!

Joe Sixpack 09-12-2002 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by XP
Dear Fuckers, back to main thread!
we discuss "Why everyone hate america(ns)!"

not world war 2, not other things

The only country, who sell money to other countries is USA!
making a 100$ paper in bulk costs 1 cent, 99 dollars, 99 cents is net revenue!

and I learned, government don't have a control on this. a non government firm have facility to make new bucks.

I have good friends from USA, I don't blame them. But fuckin' bush is trying to start World War 3 (or 4 whatever it is).
isn't spiderman learned times and times again "With great power, comes also with great responsibility". When USA senators, lobbys will learn that? isn't spiderman a hero found in USA? isn't that word %100 true?

my scenario:

Soviets will grow again, slowly but with sure steps. They'll use same foreign policy USA uses. And they'll use same terrorists against usa, which USA used bin laden & taliban against russia sometime!

from this new HOT terror war, only innocent people will suffer. Not Fuckin cowboy Bush Junior! He was escaping, because of affair to death! in 11 september 2001!

You sound American. You're not from Turkey, fucker!

TheSpaceBulldog 09-12-2002 03:26 AM

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Originally posted by LiveDose
Actually the only Americans who give a shit about what other countries think are Bush and the pussies in congress.

The majority of us really don't give fuck what you all think. However we are entitled to defend ourselves against verbal attacks aren't we. Oh, or is that just one more thing that makes us devils...

Tell us about Finland Mika...

No shiiiit, umm 100 % onh this one...There's too little time to be worried about what other muthafukas think about us...!!:BangBang:

josephus 09-12-2002 04:02 AM

I. have u ever read history? do u know who were the first people to have settled there? ( i'm not speaking of american native indians)
THE EUROPEAN CRIMINALS RUNNING AWAY FROM LAW settled the towns in america long time ago. so whats the origin of americans? and do u know that crime is also geneticaly transfered to new generations?
II. have u ever opened some instruction guide printed in us?
let me tell u what r the first words in it: ( for ex. a guide for Windows)
PLUG THE POWER CORD OF THE PC IN THE AC OUTLET...... AND PRESS THE POWER ON BUTTON...
u have to be A TOTAL IDIOT ( OR ANA AMERICAN ) if u don't know that an elictrical machine works ONLY IF IT IS PLUGGED IN !!!!!!
III. helping the world? haha what a joke... nobody wants ur help.... except some filthy politicians....
i think its enough.... for today
:BangBang:


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