On ME? You might want to back away from the implied threats thing, Josh. I have purposely stayed out of EVERY thread that had anything to do with Fleshlight out of respect. The fact that Fleshlight is on that list is due to the consensus of everyone else in this, I didn't say a damn thing about it. You do not want to tickle this dragon; keep my name out of your mouth and I'll do the same...

it's no point to debate which companies will be accepted on any list untill we
have a fixed set of rules and terms of service. The rules and terms will be
equal for everyone and every application will agree to comply with set rules.
Only then we can objectively review every company based on those criteria
and can any disputes be backed up with factual arguments.

Any accusations to whether a company will be accepted or refused makes
no sense till there's collectively approved rules and terms to which they should comply.

shane's world hasn't accused anyone of anything that wasn't proven already via screenshots and fact.

anyone else posting things were asked to post PROOF. we know how shit is done around here.

POST PROOF or be banned.

fact.

This thread got messy, but it is necessary for sure.

It's very easy to define rules regarding user uploaded content.
by screening/reviewing new content before approval.....and of course
there's always people who manage to bypass whatever you come up with.
If a site will follow up on complaints which are verifiable that's enough.

When people take swift and correct actions to valid complaints than in my
book that's no reason to punish sites for the actions of cheating users.

Valid complaint......remove content/affliate within x days after complaint...
case solved.

:2 cents:

the sheriff has spoken...lol

bm bradley formerly known as wanton

Did you lie to Wanton?

I was thinking the same thing.

You don't require all the top dogs to join in......even starting with just a few
sites you can make a difference especially when consumers will have access
to the info in terms of a consumer seal of fair business and value for money
kinda thing.....

Will it solve all these problems tomorrow......it certainly won't but it's a step
in the right direction which will gain momentum when it's executed properly.
It certainly will make a difference and gives both consumers and companies
to carefully select the people they want to do business with.

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Actually, you were the one that offered up the "First 10 names on the bad list" and you have been in just about every one of the threads involving us....keep our name out of YOUR mouth and I will keep yours out of ours

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so lets start this way

To those who think XTube is comprised entirely of ripped off content, you are only showing us you know nothing about our site. I understand that on the outside it appears to be stolen content because there is a lot of sponsor content there. What you fail to realize is what I posted before - Webmasters, like you, put it there with a referral code and sponsor name.

When it comes to content approval the law does not allow for us to monitor each upload. If we did that we would become, by definition, the provider of the content - which is completely false. We are a provider of a tool that enables people to share home-made porn.

In addition to the home-made stuff we realize that webmasters are an important part of the adult community, so we added features that allow you to post sponsor content and use your linking codes to get credit for clicks.

I have been in the content reviewers seat since the beginning of XTube and yes, there were a lot of violations posted (all removed). You people should thank me, in person, for all of the changes I have imposed on the site and the processes that have reduced the number of violations so dramatically that we have not seen a single DMCA take-down request in months.

If you find a violation on XTube there are a number of ways to report it and have it dealt with. Considering there are no reports coming in I can only believe that I am hearing the voices of people who have not taken the time to gather the facts that support their opinions. That is fine, you do not need to do that... Unless of course you want to be believed.

The problem now that many are willing to do something but most fails because
people end up in personal fights with eachother based on personal grudges
instead of a fixed set of terms and rules.......if there's an approved framework
with rules and regulations every application/complaint will be handled according
the exact same criteria....and review will verify and conclude which companies
will end up on what list.

A Better Business Bureau for the adult industry - I'm cool with that :-)

Hiya Josh!

I noticed you started ignoring the other thread after I posted proof that the sites you are continuing to advertise on are not DMCA compliant, contrary to what you said.

Any news yet? :Graucho

much safer this way

forget about good and bad lists until we collectively come up with rules and
terms of service where companies will be reviewed to. Saying you can't
join coz I once saw one of your banners on x site makes no sense coz till
we have something to judge companies on and where companies can decide
to adjust their services in order to comply to them or not.

:2 cents: djeez I'm running out of cents fast in this thread :1orglaugh

I didn't ignore anything...I WENT HOME...but yeah, I'm pretty much done dealing with you anyways...I posted my response and that's the way it's going to be...bottom line...say what you will about what you think you know but until you have talked to the site owner himself and gotten the word of his compliancy, don't bother me with your 2 bit detective work

Add Xpays to the good business list.

The best way to isolate businesses that are not 'good' is to ignore them completely. Only businesses that are good get recognized and if a person wants to know about a 'bad' business their first clue is the fact that it is not listed.

But doing it that way does not allow anyone to vent or burn someone who has burned them, which it seems like is the point of this thing. Big-it-up and focus on the good, not the bad.

Perhaps a public application process. To get listed on the exclusive 'good; list you have apply in public. All registered members vote on a daily basis for the businesses that are applying. You vote once a month - good, or bad. This would enable the good list to have fluidity and real-time relevance to their position in the marketplace. If they start off good and fuck up, then they move down.

In addition to that members can post comments (within a business profile?) to talk about how great they are, or not great (by clicking a good or bad radio button). Not great comments are moderated to ensure laws are not broken.

If businesses like the car industry and even the gambling industry can do it then so can we.....

The Safe Cyber Sex Association lol

Good, I'm done with you too. You very obviously refuse to see simple facts.

This is just like 2257 - the DMCA info needs to be on the site. The law explicitly states that. Everyone can see whether or not it is. In this case, it isn't. No detective work needed for that.

A1R3K, I think you have one for the "bad business" list here :2 cents:

Good plan, you have our support.

1. Shane's World
2. AlleyBucks
3. Mallcom
4. Webair
5. Octology Media (SexStuffSells.com)
6. EdgeX Media - Whores Illustrated
7. Naughty America
8. SinnersCash.com
9. HushMoney.com / Hush Hush Entertainment
10. RadicalCash.com
11. National Net
12. RackCo Web Hosting

Add Mediumpimpin.com to the good list. I'll happily out the scum and only do it with facts to back up what I say.

That was a copy/paste list from a previous thread.



That's funny. I just checked my past posts thinking maybe you were right and I forgot about posting something derogatory against Fleshlight somewhere and this was all I found:

and that observation had nothing to do with Fleshlight.

like in p[revious posts..defining what makes someone a good or bad company is not them saying yes me me..we need a set of guidelines..

totally...

Very good point....

Interesting... I see our content all over your site without our permission. If you can't police your own site, perhaps our legal department can assist you.

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lets start here shall we
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PimpRoll.com and AdultElite.com take complaints of any content misuse very seriously. Affiliates are certainly never allowed to use someone elses copyrighted materials without proper license to do so.

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Ice, you kill me

Bad Business List:
1. Cyberthrill Casino

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So I guess this wasn't you posting/bumping in these threads?

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/760287-fleshlight-stealing-affiliates-care-torrents.html

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/760026-jesus-christ-support-stealing-content-fuck-fleshlight.html

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/760401-flesh-josh-fleshlight-ct-dumb-fucking-thieving-twits-inside.html