directfiesta

50 freedoms lost ....

It is your thread and your claim ... so go first ...

This attitude is what is flawed with you guys ... Chavez fucked up ... What he did is wrong, and a stain on his record ..what does that have to do with the US... You always bring it back to the US .... funny how normally you are the one to say foreigners have no saying in US politics ... so why do you have any in the Venezuela politics ....

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stickyfingerz

So all you have is blah blah?

List what freedoms we do not have. I know you aren't real swift an all, but where did I say I gave a crap about Venezuela and their politics? If I recall correctly I was saying the left holds it as the beacon of what America should be, and I pointed out an example of what they do to take away freedoms that we do not in America.

Now back to your list of what freedoms we DO NOT have in America.

directfiesta

.. and post pictures, I presume ....

YOU are the one making that claim, so you post what makes it true or false...

Quote where I posted that ... I had a single post ( blaming Chavez ) before I got pissed at your endless idiotic senseless moronic so-called logic...
I hope your kid got most of his genes from your wife ....

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stickyfingerz

This is funny. Just list some freedoms we do not have. What claim am I making again? Lets start with that. List the claim I am making.

will76

Man you whine a lot.

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stickyfingerz

Dont you have someone much more successful than yourself to whine about? lol

_Richard_

people can only vote for one out of two parties..

tiger

LOL, like Fox isn't state run.

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nico-t

i think you posted in the wrong thread because i'm seeing the opposite: Sticky making an ass out of himself for the 1825th time.

CWeb

Nobody is your listmaker boy. You want lists? Get off your ass and make them - and quit bitching with every post or I might even lose respect for you boy

CWeb

That few?

fetishblog

Apparently you can't read. This happened in Venezuela, which is not in America. =)

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stickyfingerz

bzzzzz wrong answer.

stickyfingerz

Fox is owned by Rupert Murdock. I recall he is Australian

Bzzz wrong answer, and has nothing to do with the question at hand.

stickyfingerz

Bzzzzz another irrelevant and wrong answer. Has nothing to do with the question at hand.

stickyfingerz

Bzzz another incompetent troll that has NO answer only more to babble about not relating to the question.

stickyfingerz

A one liner Webby? I thought that you were categorically against one line answers.

theking

Wrong. People can vote for a multitude of parties.

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Ah...no...it isn't.

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stickyfingerz

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Where are all the freedoms that United States Citizens lack at? I was sure there would be a 10 page list by now...

theking

Well they do exist...but primarily from city...county...and state government. There are way more than 10 million...ordinances...and laws on the books and most of the ordinances and laws deny someones freedom to do something. I personally have been quite irritated by some of the city...and county...ordinances and /or laws I have bumped into over my life span.

I think you are probably referring to federal law...and of course there are federal laws...that deny someones freedom to do something, but not as many as the cities...counties...and states have.

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stickyfingerz

Well surely there are. For instance I dont like the fact that I cannot park a vehicle in front of my house from 1am to 5am in the morning. They have the law to make sure that people dont clutter up the street. Ive talked to many officials trying to get the law changed. As it is now they write a ticket with no warnings for 20.00. So im working for them to do a warning system. Why? Because it is simple to accidently leave a car on the street and forget to pull it make in the driveway. Ive got 2 tickets so far and it pissed me the hell off.

Now would I call it losing a "freedom"? no not really.

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stickyfingerz

There is an easy one that I agree with no one has mentioned. We cannot legally smoke weed. Hopefully through legislation that will be changed someday.

CWeb

Did I address you boy? Quit bitching or I'll set the dogs on your whining ass

If you can't even think of any "freedoms" or rights you don't have - you need an education into the ways of the real world boy. Now bugger off and quit attempting to play the court jester

theking

I assume to allow the street sweepers to sweep or for some other practical reason...which does remove some of the irritation...but I do view it as a loss of freedom...though a minor loss.

I used to be heavy into real estate. I once bought a piece of property within the city limits with the intentions of building on it at some point. Having other irons in the fire...it took me three or four years to get back to this particular property only to learn that...due to city/county ordinances having been changed in the interim...I could not build anything on the property. The properitys value dropped to zero. I was out attorney fees over the next couple of years battling with them but ultimately lost. To add insult to injury I received a ticket and a fine from the city's abatement dept for allowing the property to have to much wild growth on it. I consider it to be a loss of freedom not to be allowed to build on property that I owned and had to pay annual taxes on.

I eventually deeded the property to the city and guess what...a few years later the city built a childrens park on the property. When I learned that they were going to build a park...I requested that they name the park after me...and they denied my request.

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I wonder why all of the American Left doesn't move to Venezuela? It is a workers paradise.

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stickyfingerz

You are irrelevant......

stickyfingerz

Nope no street sweepers. Culdasac in a subdivision, so not even through traffic.

Brad

What about the War on Drugs? People in our industry being stopped at the Canada/US Boarder? The fact that they have laws against email spammers but not regular mail spammers and call centers? The fact that you can no longer smoke in a bar/public indoor space? The fact that you have to pay for health care?
This list could probably go on. Don't kid yourself; freedom is slowly eroding in North America. Maybe the major freedoms are still in place (freedom of speech, assembly, etc.) but I would venture to guess that it will not be long until the public is fighting for those rights which are guaranteed to us.

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CWeb

Irrelvant is not a word you should use boy. It's like attempting to use "judgement" in anything you say boy. You are not qualified to think or offer "opinions" on anyone

TSGlider

I certainly wouldn't feel free sending smut via U.S. mail to folks in Utah.

Or are we only talking specifically about federal freedoms, and not state freedoms?

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stickyfingerz

Bzzzzz wrong answer.

I did not say Anarchy, I said freedoms. Your freedoms stop where they intrude on those of another person. Canadians not being allowed in the U.S. is Americans losing a freedom?? Healthcare was never, and never will be, a guaranteed freedom. We do not live in commie, or socialist land down here.

stickyfingerz

Well its good that you THINK you are relevant...

TSGlider

Folks, on whatever side of the aisle you park your Bentleys, Benzes or rebuilt Valiant Charger, support the FSC.

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CWeb

A number of these "major freedoms" have already been removed Brad - some very recently.

A couple more - a US citizen does not have the freedom to simply live elsewhere without his/her ass being chased by the IRS. Tax filings are required by law for all US citizens - whether they have lived in eg Europe or South Africa for 50 years. Only two/three extremist countries, including the US, don't offer freedom to their citizens to live where they like without accounting annually to their country of citizenship.

US children are now the only kids on the planet who don't have rights as defined under the Convention of the Rights of the Child.

The right of Privacy is virtually non-existant - the degree at which personal data can be accquired on any US citizen is a farce. Citizens can't simply travel where they wish without questions/monitoring/permission - eg Cuba.

Generally, tho depends on the treaty, US citizens are barred from legal recourse from treaties signed by their govt. Federal laws block options for a citizen to have his case heard under International Treaties ratified by the US govt.

It is ironic that the subject of this troll's thread is over Chavez not renewing the broadcasting license of RCTV and that is the basis of US troll whining, when, in reality, all Venezuelan citiizens have all the above rights - along with plenty more not mentioned

Brad

Ok, then what is your definition of Freedom? Besides the basics like speech and assembly, what do you consider to be a "freedom"?

Fact: some drugs are illegal in the USA. Are you suggesting that this is not an example of the loss of freedom?

By the way...when you say "Your freedoms stop where they intrude on those of another person"...do you not think that there are a lot of examples where even the use of free speech intrude on others? I think you meant some thing like: Your right to punch someone else in the face ends at the other persons nose.

Oh and while we are talking about freedom, lets talk about economic freedom...I think that you will agree that most countries including the US do not enjoy this freedom.

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CWeb

My parott can come up with something more original than your stupid repetitive comments boy

You have offered absolutely nada to the thread you created - try harder with your braincell in place idiot boy

GatorB

Corect me if I'm wrong. This is YOUR thread right? YOU started it, right? YOU were the one that titled the thread "America sucks there is no freedom here. ". Yet you are asking others for proof. YOU made the claim you dipshit.

And you wonder why people don't like you are take you seriously. I forget you're just a kid anyways.

stickyfingerz

Dont want to pay taxes? Umm renounce citizenship and get citizenship in another country. Simple

Convention of the rights of the child? Show me what isnt already followed by the united states without having an outside law regulating us?

We already do all of that. Yet you have it come off as if we are abusing the children of our country. Foolish old fool.

International treaties? It is our country, and we do not need outside counsel to settle disputes. We have our own legal system thanks.

Typical same old shit from you. Big words that mean nothing.

CWeb

Who addressed you boy???

I never asked you pointless opinion on any subject - Git back into the closet where you belong or I'll stick more pins in your whining ass

will76

LMAO, obviously, by your own admission, that person is not you.

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will76

Not too bright over there at zango, i mean sexbankroll

there are a lot more than two parties in the US.

Here are some of the bigger ones, not counting Independant.

Constitution Party (formerly the U.S. Taxpayers Party) (1992).
Democratic Party (1792, 1820s ? present).
Green Party of the United States (1984).
Libertarian Party (1971).
Republican Party (1854).

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will76

i can't smoke in a restaurant and I have to wear my seat belt. does that count ?

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uno

I'll toss prostitution in there, with only few small areas where its legal.

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directfiesta

At last somebody makes sense ...

It is a bit like if Sticky would claim that restaurants in Montreal are shit, that the ones in Nashville are better ... Then he would ask me to list the restaurants in Nashville ... I never claimed anything about that and don't give a fuck...

AS for US freedoms, I couldn't care less ... Americans can do whatever they want in THEIR country, then can kill every second born, paint houses pink, put to death rapist or pornographers ... none of my business ....

As for the Bzzzz , shows the level of maturity ....

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GatorB

Show me a 3rd party that has received even ONE electoral vote in a presidential election in the last 50 years. The last successful 3rd party is the GOP. That was 150 years ago.

theking

Hmm...that would be the fault of the voters as there are 30 or forty different parties to vote for. The voters apparently prefer two of the parties. I would like to see that change but I do not think it will in my lifetime.

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You going to stick me with your tiny little needle dick?