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How do you treat smaller webmasters/Noobs?
So how do you treat smaller webmasters, or even just new guys coming into the business?
I can see how some people can be annoyed by them, but really everyone starts somewhere, and chances are you started from the same position. SO whats the point in ignoring them? It is veyr true that if you help the little guys one day they may become something really big, and they wont forget that you were there to help them when they were small... so whats your view on this, do u tend to try and help the bigger fish in the market, or do u take the time to help out the small ones to, and do some business with them?
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It's coming look busy
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I treat the little snot nose fuckers like everyone else.
Actually I am very newbie friendly.
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i kick them like lil puppies
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Like everyone else..
And you are right, the next little gold fish could be tommorrows next whale.. |
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treat them like you are just the same because sometimes they know what exactly veterans didn't know.
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Like they are whales, who knows where they may be 2 yrs from now!
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#7 |
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That was hilarious
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#8 |
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Although, I am one of those noobs
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Well I'm very new to this and everyone has been very nice to me, but if someone won't treat with me respect then they certainly wont get any back from me no matter how much of a 'big playa' they are.
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I treat them as individuals... Depends on the person.
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Yeah, I agree, it is more about what the person comes across like than where they are at this minute. I'd expect someone at it and successful for a long time to act a little bit differently from someone just starting out, but one of the coolest things about internet business is how fast things can happen for someone smart and hardworking.
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I totally agree Amelia, I've been on the board for maybe about a month now if that, and I've gone from a complete nobody, with no experience gainign the respect of a few great great guys, and working for/with someone that is highly respected in the industy. And the thing is I got this opportunity bu presenting myself as who i am on the board and taking the chance to stick my head out here, luckily people respected that and took me under there wing so to speak.
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I hire newbies if thery're smart and ambitious ... they are like clay - easy to mold
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as a complete noob with no computer background, and very little online marketing skills, I must say this board has been very helpful. It seems the assholes dont say anything when you ask a question and those willing to help give some good advice.
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Join Date: May 2007
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I'm still a noob after 1 year in the biz but I live by the golden rule, and majority of the veterans sincerely want to help anyone who is honest about how they conduct themselves in life and in business. There are some great people in this industry! I've learned a lot and have gained some true friendships in such a short time.
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Just as a side question, but do you think that this industry is the most helpful relative to say mainstream ventures? I really think it is, & havent seen the kind of support and coutiership in other industries. Even on campuses people are always out to better someone else & barely ever willing to help out someone whos struggling.
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i treat everybody the same - some people i know are worth millions and some are just trying to make a living - i respect and admire the ones who make the big money fairly honestly and the struggling guy who is trying to find his way.
i'm only suspicious of newbs who want everything given to them and whom I suspect once they have what they want will be assholes.
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noobs
I'm a noob, and have found that most veterans are very helpful, however, every board has one or two that just have to make their rude comments for no reason, but I have to admit, I've loved the help I've received on this board! Tia
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Fuck'em.
Kidding aside, noobs are just like any other people. Some are assholes, some are dumb, some are lazy, some are brilliant and fast learners.
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Lets be totally honest here. The odds on a newbie coming in and sending decent traffic in any quantity is VERY long. The odds on the guys still being around is also VERY long.
So how much do we need to invest in getting that traffic, supporting that guy and what's the return? The established guys don't need a lot of time or support and will return a profit. The newbies need a lot of support and are unlikely to return a profit. So how much can we afford to invest in them? No excuse for being rude because someone is a newbie and no excuse for painting a rosie picture of his chances of being around in 6 months time. Just because you need another guy throwing galleries at a TGP or putting up another blog. The industry is 10 years old, and more, the time for newbies making it with no money, experience, skills or talent is over. If that sounds tough then fine. But if it were not true there would be no newbies. Basic traffic generation would go in house. I can employ people for $30 a day or less. I'm better off getting them building galleries for others to submit rather than submit them myself like a newbie. |
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I treat them the same way they treat me
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in real life or on gfy
i treat everyone the same on GFY - you're all fucking idiots. newbs tend to take it more personal though i treat everyone with respect in real life till they give me reason to treat them otherwise
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Does he always talk this way??? WTF???
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Just give a welcome
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Are you saying there is still serious money to be made by newbies? And let me guess where you think they can make it. ![]() This is business and it's tough for any newbie to make it in any business unless they have money, experience, skills or talent. Could be porn or window cleaning or rocket science. I'm presently helping a newbie on ICQ. Always willing to help. |
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Although I don't talk to a whole lot of newbies... sometimes they randomly hit me up on icq. If they have a couple questions i'll answer them and be friendly, but if they want a step by step walkthrough on what I do I ignore them. I don't walk into a store and ask the manager exact details on how they conduct business, where they advertise, etc... it doesn't fly anywhere else, why should it in this industry?
I had to learn on my own, so should they... Not to mention, if they do exactly what I do then they're taking a chunk of my pie. If you're running an affiliate program I can see more reasons to help newbies, they could (although very unlikely in my experience) turn into profitable webmasters someday. |
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I treat them with respect. Just because someone is new or small doesn't mean he/she doesn't have anything to contribute or doesn't know anything. Respect, empathy, and understanding goes a long way.
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ArchiveCash.com & GayGravy.com allways treat all small & big fish as equals QUOTE: Small Fish Are Sweet.
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I really wish I was around in the golden days because I have been doing this for a few months PART TIME, maybe 1 to 3 hours a day (counting surfing time on GFY) and making low $x,xxx a month. I started with NO $$ and NO skills. Noobs can do it, with nothing, they just have to think of a way. ![]() Could you make it now if you were a noob?
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Do I think new people can make money.. sure, just as much as someone who's been around for a while. New blood is always a good thing. new ideas are always a good thing. Is it still the wild west and you can cash in by putting up 2 galleries and nothing else? NO fuckin way. If they want to work for it, sure its there.
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In my previous company, the senior management used to say
"SO FUCKIN WHAT? IGNORE THE LITTLE FUCKER, he doesn't bring in THAT much traffic and is not worth talking to". So fuck it! I say - treat everyone equal, who knows which seed will grow into a tree.
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It's an opportunity cost thing that some copmpanies aren't willing to accomodate. |
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I welcome them.
Come to me and promote my sites, I will teach you everything you want to know. |
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Like somebody said above, Noobs are just like everybody else, they're people. Some are great and some are shit. Treating them differently just because they haven't been "in the biz" long is just plain ridiculous.
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yeah..treat them well..who knows. they might know a thing or two...
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#41 |
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I treat them with disrespect, disgust and loathing.
if you can't hack it, bail the fuck out. this is business not a game. |
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Irrelevant of how long they been in the biz, treat them with respect!
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im respectful to everyone
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equality dammit!!
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