Bodies 0f 9/11 victims used to fill potholes - GoFuckYourself.com

SmokeyTheBear · 03-25-2007, 11:17 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070324/...t11_remains_dc

tony286 · 03-25-2007, 11:21 PM

it shows how much our government really didnt give a shit

JDog · 03-25-2007, 11:22 PM

It's not cool. They should have spent some more time looking for any remains that could have been found. But in the article it talks about not rebuilding ground zero.

In my view not rebuilding ground zero is a waste of money for the people that own the land. That land has lots of value in it and there is no reason to leave it as is.

chupacabra · 03-25-2007, 11:22 PM

ye gods..

SmokeyTheBear · 03-25-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JDog

In my view not rebuilding ground zero is a waste of money for the people that own the land. That land has lots of value in it and there is no reason to leave it as is.

the guy who owned wtc complex paid severl million for a 99 year lease and got paid BILLIONS in insurance, he made his money , the owners made their money already , no need to rebuild.. i think the point being that those people's lives were worth more than profit. If we were preserving it at the exepnse of others thats one thing but if the ONLY reason to rebuild is profit, seems kinda evil.

baddog · 03-25-2007, 11:37 PM

So, you are saying that they should sift thru all the rubble, and then conduct DNA tests on every fragment found to identify the person?

porno jew · 03-25-2007, 11:51 PM

this thread is terrorism.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-25-2007, 11:59 PM

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So, you are saying that they should sift thru all the rubble, and then conduct DNA tests on every fragment found to identify the person?

me ? no .. i think any material that could possibly contain remains should be given a proper burial even if its justa big field that is turned into a park or something. doesn't have to be at ground zero. i see no reason to sift rhu the rubble. if your family member was at wtc and is missing , they are likely dead, having bone fragments doesnt seem like the goal of victims, im sure there are some who want something but i think they would be satisfied knowing that they are somehwere not in a pothole

as far as ground zero, in terms of cost and the war , it would be piddly amount to preserve it as a memorial, but im not toally against building on it.. seeing as how they are still finding body parts i think they havent done a good enough job yet of finding the victims.. we do far bigger projects all the time. , dig up whats left . bury it in a field , make it a park preserve it forever. i dont see the harm in that . do we really need to use wtc rubble to fill porholes ? cmon now..

georgeyw · 03-26-2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So, you are saying that they should sift thru all the rubble, and then conduct DNA tests on every fragment found to identify the person?

My thoughts too, how much is enough?

Answer : Depends how much money people may be able to get out of it

fuzzylogic · 03-26-2007, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

the guy who owned wtc complex paid severl million for a 99 year lease and got paid BILLIONS in insurance, he made his money , the owners made their money already , no need to rebuild.. i think the point being that those people's lives were worth more than profit. If we were preserving it at the exepnse of others thats one thing but if the ONLY reason to rebuild is profit, seems kinda evil.

anyone look into the backgrounds and connections of the owners of the wtc whom ended up netted billions from wtc attack?

fuzzylogic · 03-26-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So, you are saying that they should sift thru all the rubble, and then conduct DNA tests on every fragment found to identify the person?

absolutly

Pleasurepays · 03-26-2007, 12:15 AM

i hate to be the one to point out the obvious again... but the entire remains of the building was immediately removed, metal salvaged and processed etc. its quite a stretch to suggest that "human remains" are being used to pave roads when basically the entire article, written to incite people like you guys was based on an affidavit filed by a construction worker... and used language like "possibly" ... not a statement of fact. but hey.... its GFY, who needs facts to get upset and emotional anyway?

SmokeyTheBear · 03-26-2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So, you are saying that they should sift thru all the rubble, and then conduct DNA tests on every fragment found to identify the person?

p.s. i noticed i didnt really fully answer your question other than to say no..

so i will answer directly. no, i think theres ZERO reason to identify victims.. after the first year it was irrelevent. if your friend was anywhere near the area and didnt come home , survey says _____

but because we cant give people a proper burial indvidually wouldnt the next best thing be to treat any material that might contain victims a proper burial..

personally if it were me i wouldnt care if it was for potholes, but i have enough respect for others to know , many people would want a proper burial.. so we should fulfill their wishes.

I'm not talking about some huge project ,just get equipment , dig material out , bury in lot , plant trees make park. simple.

if these people were already buried it would be illegal for their bodies to be dug up and used this way , so inlieu of the fact these people didnt get a grave and rights, shoudnt we treat all material from wtc as theri graves..

just my

Pleasurepays · 03-26-2007, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

p.s. i noticed i didnt really fully answer your question other than to say no..

so i will answer directly. no, i think theres ZERO reason to identify victims.. after the first year it was irrelevent. if your friend was anywhere near the area and didnt come home , survey says _____

but because we cant give people a proper burial indvidually wouldnt the next best thing be to treat any material that might contain victims a proper burial..

personally if it were me i wouldnt care if it was for potholes, but i have enough respect for others to know , many people would want a proper burial.. so we should fulfill their wishes.

I'm not talking about some huge project ,just get equipment , dig material out , bury in lot , plant trees make park. simple.

if these people were already buried it would be illegal for their bodies to be dug up and used this way , so inlieu of the fact these people didnt get a grave and rights, shoudnt we treat all material from wtc as theri graves..

just my

again... the article is offering zero proof of anything. just one construction workers statement. thats all. nothing more. i seriously doubt people on the site are feeding human bone fragments to their dogs or sneaking them into peoples sandwiches as a joke.

why would anyone even assume that any remains are not treated with respect?

SmokeyTheBear · 03-26-2007, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i hate to be the one to point out the obvious again... but the entire remains of the building was immediately removed, metal salvaged and processed etc. its quite a stretch to suggest that "human remains" are being used to pave roads when basically the entire article, written to incite people like you guys was based on an affidavit filed by a construction worker... and used language like "possibly" ... not a statement of fact. but hey.... its GFY, who needs facts to get upset and emotional anyway?

you forgot to mention the "facts" , the FACTS were he worked at the facility that much of the wtc rubble was placed, thats common FACT , no mystery there, FACT is they also use this facility for material for road repairs.. he said "possibly " about the material containing bone fragments as it would be impossible for him to know that unless he saw bone fragments, one would rationally presume if you had wtc rubble it prob has human remains as 40% of the victims were never found, if you noticed trucks using that rubble to pave roads you might be concerned and i think we should be.

why would yahoo need to "incite" us ? so were um mad at ? your theory makes no sense..

if it was made up the city would simply say " no wtc rubble was there , or we never used any rubble for paving " end of story..

minusonebit · 03-26-2007, 12:26 AM

Gotta love the name of that landfill.

Now, if this was little pieces of George Bush... well, at least he'd be making at least a couple of useful contributions to society.

To be honest... this whole 9/11 thing is starting to stink... its almost like how black people who were slaves are always looking for reparations... people involved in this seem to be on a never-ending quest to shake loose as much cash as possible by tugging at whatever strings they can get at.

Something quite terrible happened. People did the best they could with what they had. Its time to fucking move on. People die in buildings all the time. Fires, construction accidents and such and sometimes it simply isn't possible to scrape up every little bit of human and get it buried in the right casket. Thats reality, as cruel as it may seem. And this was no exception. I think they did an admirable job of doing what could be done within reason to find everyone. It was such a mess with so much rubble... sorry, but it isn't practical to examine every pebble down there under a microscope to see if it might be someone's bone.

And if anyone needs to be sued, its Bush. After all, he and his freak show of an administration caused 9-11.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-26-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i seriously doubt people on the site are feeding human bone fragments to their dogs or sneaking them into peoples sandwiches as a joke.

what are you talking about ? i never heard any mention of that ?

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

why would anyone even assume that any remains are not treated with respect?

lol simple math , you have thousand of people missing , not identified.. = where are the bodies ?

They are obviously in the rubble , it hasnt been given a proper burial thus none of those thousand of people have been treated with respect or a burial.. why not bury them and the rubble ?

for get this guys story for a second and just ask yourself where these people are ? and whats being done with the rubble ? the rubble we KNOW contains thousands of humans

Pleasurepays · 03-26-2007, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

you forgot to mention the "facts" , the FACTS were he worked at the facility that much of the wtc rubble was placed, thats common FACT , no mystery there, FACT is they also use this facility for material for road repairs.. he said "possibly " about the material containing bone fragments as it would be impossible for him to know that unless he saw bone fragments, one would rationally presume if you had wtc rubble it prob has human remains as 40% of the victims were never found, if you noticed trucks using that rubble to pave roads you might be concerned and i think we should be.

why would yahoo need to "incite" us ? so were um mad at ? your theory makes no sense..

if it was made up the city would simply say " no wtc rubble was there , or we never used any rubble for paving " end of story..

hate to break it to you but "news" is nothing more than a contest to push peoples buttons these days. its entertainment.

as i said,... the story says nothing except that ONE construction worker filed a court affidavit. thats all. there are no facts. there is no other side of the story.

its just a simple story written to inflame opinions and touch emotional hot buttons for page views, ratings and ad sales. nothing else.

don't play ignorant and pretend that just because the city didn't comment at the time of the article means that they had any info to make a comment or even had heard about it at all when reporters asked them.

FACT - a construction guy filed an affidavit in court making a claim
FACT - thats it. there is no other side to the story.
FACT - one side of a story is shitty reporting
FACT - reacting to one side of a story is irrational

fuzzylogic · 03-26-2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

p.s. i noticed i didnt really fully answer your question other than to say no..

so i will answer directly. no, i think theres ZERO reason to identify victims.. after the first year it was irrelevent. if your friend was anywhere near the area and didnt come home , survey says _____

but because we cant give people a proper burial indvidually wouldnt the next best thing be to treat any material that might contain victims a proper burial..

personally if it were me i wouldnt care if it was for potholes, but i have enough respect for others to know , many people would want a proper burial.. so we should fulfill their wishes.

I'm not talking about some huge project ,just get equipment , dig material out , bury in lot , plant trees make park. simple.

if these people were already buried it would be illegal for their bodies to be dug up and used this way , so inlieu of the fact these people didnt get a grave and rights, shoudnt we treat all material from wtc as theri graves..

just my

i take it you're not familiar with the jewish religion?

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i take it you're not too familiar with jewish religious practices. what you suggested might be fine for the non-religious or those who practice a Christian religion. but you know, it sucks having one religion pushed on everyone.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-26-2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Something quite terrible happened. People did the best they could with what they had. Its time to fucking move on.

i dont think it would be hard to bury the rubble that we know contains victims and give them a mass burial/grave.

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People die in buildings all the time. Fires, construction accidents and such and sometimes it simply isn't possible to scrape up every little bit of human and get it buried in the right casket.

but we do our best, i dont think we have done our best here.

Personally i dont think putting them into a truck and dumping them in a landfil is the best we can do.

If your mother and father fell into a cement mixer , would you be kosher with them just dumping them in the next driveway they pour because the load is too costly and time consuming to break up. ? would your parents feel the same way ? i'm not trying to force you into an answer , if it was me i wouldnt care. but other family members would care and i would like to think i would do everything possible to meet THEIR wishes not mine.

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sorry, but it isn't practical to examine every pebble down there under a microscope to see if it might be someone's bone.

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i am certainly not advising this. i see no reason to identify anyone at this point . just a proper burial..

SmokeyTheBear · 03-26-2007, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

hate to break it to you but "news" is nothing more than a contest to push peoples buttons these days. its entertainment.

theres certainly some truth in that, the fact remains he worked where the wtc rubble was taken. if anyone has a good idea of what is being done i would say it were he. do we take his statement as FACT ? no , of course not , if its untrue it would be easily proven. " here te rubble untouched" or " buddy didtnt even work near the rubble "

I totally agree the news article was done like sig whores. just for views, but if theres merit to the story i find it disturbing..

fuzzylogic · 03-26-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i am certainly not advising this. i see no reason to identify anyone at this point . just a proper burial..

what if proper burial requires identification?

SmokeyTheBear · 03-26-2007, 12:49 AM

what the "real" story will end up being is indeed they were taking rubble but likely only large pieces of concrete that couldnt possibly contain humans to recycle into paving material. its done all the time.

I still dont think its right though, for a few measly dollars..

lets justy bury the whole mess

p.s. fuzzylogic mentioned religion. i see no reason why different denominations couldnt decide how they see best to bury the remaining rubble,especially for jewish people. as it stand they are far worse off then my alternative.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-26-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic

what if proper burial requires identification?

i dont think any religion would prefer bodies be left in a landfill rather than aa group burial without identification..

i dont now the "rules" of every religion but i know that jewish people die and there remains cant be identified reasonably and i havent heard a huge fuss over it.. i think as long as you do your best with what you can , and like others i think the best can be done to identify the citims already..

im also pretty sure that even jewish victims that have been identified , the families need to bury every piece , if thats every piece of wtc , i think thats a solution dont you ?

minusonebit · 03-26-2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i dont think it would be hard to bury the rubble that we know contains victims and give them a mass burial/grave.

but we do our best, i dont think we have done our best here.

Personally i dont think putting them into a truck and dumping them in a landfil is the best we can do.

If your mother and father fell into a cement mixer , would you be kosher with them just dumping them in the next driveway they pour because the load is too costly and time consuming to break up. ? would your parents feel the same way ? i'm not trying to force you into an answer , if it was me i wouldnt care. but other family members would care and i would like to think i would do everything possible to meet THEIR wishes not mine.

i am certainly not advising this. i see no reason to identify anyone at this point . just a proper burial..

Obviously I would not be OK with that. But I wouldn't demand that the entire plant be shuttered and dismantled because one of Dad's toenails was missing, as long as most of him could be buried and I was satisifed that the recover effort was reasonable then I'd be OK with it.

And we aren't talking about whole bodies or even a whole bone. We are talking about little flecks of bone, most prolly smaller than a quarter. This is a bunch of people bitching about something that no one has any power to change as a result of the limited availability of manpower and technology and thus they will have the never-ending gripe. Its a situation that cannot be resolved so lets just bitch and sue about it. Do these people propose what we should do about the situation? No! Of course not. They don't have any answers either. All they have is a fucking complaint.

Whole thing is just bullshit.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-26-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Obviously I would not be OK with that. But I wouldn't demand that the entire plant be shuttered and dismantled because one of Dad's toenails was missing, as long as most of him could be buried and I was satisifed that the recover effort was reasonable then I'd be OK with it.

thats the whole thing, they havent found ANY of hundreds of people , = their entire bodies so they have nothing..

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

And we aren't talking about whole bodies or even a whole bone. We are talking about little flecks of bone, most prolly smaller than a quarter. This is a bunch of people bitching about something that no one has any power to change as a result of the limited availability of manpower and technology and thus they will have the never-ending gripe.

limited technology & manpower ? huh they have unemployed all over the city.. for the price of a couple tanks they could have every piece of rubble buried.

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They don't have any answers either. All they have is a fucking complaint.

Whole thing is just bullshit.

I have an answer , bury it all , let each religion have their own ceremony , end of story.

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	what the "real" story will end up being is indeed they were taking rubble but likely only large pieces of concrete that couldnt possibly contain humans to recycle into paving material. its done all the time. I still dont think its right though, for a few measly dollars.. lets justy bury the whole mess p.s. fuzzylogic mentioned religion. i see no reason why different denominations couldnt decide how they see best to bury the remaining rubble,especially for jewish people. as it stand they are far worse off then my alternative. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	So, you are saying that they should sift thru all the rubble, and then conduct DNA tests on every fragment found to identify the person?

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Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	i hate to be the one to point out the obvious again... but the entire remains of the building was immediately removed, metal salvaged and processed etc. its quite a stretch to suggest that "human remains" are being used to pave roads when basically the entire article, written to incite people like you guys was based on an affidavit filed by a construction worker... and used language like "possibly" ... not a statement of fact. but hey.... its GFY, who needs facts to get upset and emotional anyway?

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minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Gotta love the name of that landfill. Now, if this was little pieces of George Bush... well, at least he'd be making at least a couple of useful contributions to society. To be honest... this whole 9/11 thing is starting to stink... its almost like how black people who were slaves are always looking for reparations... people involved in this seem to be on a never-ending quest to shake loose as much cash as possible by tugging at whatever strings they can get at. Something quite terrible happened. People did the best they could with what they had. Its time to fucking move on. People die in buildings all the time. Fires, construction accidents and such and sometimes it simply isn't possible to scrape up every little bit of human and get it buried in the right casket. Thats reality, as cruel as it may seem. And this was no exception. I think they did an admirable job of doing what could be done within reason to find everyone. It was such a mess with so much rubble... sorry, but it isn't practical to examine every pebble down there under a microscope to see if it might be someone's bone. And if anyone needs to be sued, its Bush. After all, he and his freak show of an administration caused 9-11.