The guy called a press conference to say he hates Gay People

[Doctor Dre]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2766213

BoyAlley will love this

[Deputy Chief Command]

let me be the first to say . probably a closet gay ....

[BusterBunny]

guessing this is hardaway rant, he goes nuts...

[BusterBunny]

http://www.790theticket.com/audiopla...th%2 0Stugotz

the fun starts a lil over half way in....

[RedShoe]

Damian Ford will fix him right the fuck up.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by RedShoe

Damian Ford will fix him right the fuck up.

you know damian ford? used to live next door to me . . I've shot him lots of times . . shot him for the cover of a german mag last year too . . really nice guy

[Adultnet]

lol ...

[Sarah_Jayne]

Yeah, real team player there.

[VicD]

Everybody is free to hate, of course this is not so intelligent from Hardaway

[UKJack]

The guy never done anything wrong he just exercised his freedom of free speech and freedom to have an opinion just because the general public might not agree with him he should not be persecuted because that is just the same as persecuting someone for having gay thoughts "being gay"

[BoyAlley]

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2766213

BoyAlley will love this

You know what? It always cracks me the hell up when I hear a black man speak out against gay people.

It wasn't too long ago, that people in this country were saying the same sorts of things about blacks that he's saying about gays. And it wasn't too long ago, that there were laws in this country that discriminated against blacks just like there are laws that discriminate against gays today. How many years ago was it that it was illegal for a black man to marry a white woman? Not many. Why? Because people "didn't think it was right".........

The truth of the matter is, gays have most of our problems from people in the south, and most of the southerners that will call me a faggot that deserves to burn in hell would call him a no good n1gger that should go back to Africa. And if he were to go out with one of their white daughters, they'd probably pull out a shotgun on him.

A close minded biggot is a close minded biggot. If he wants to feel more secure about himself as a minority by bashing a different minority so be it, but he needs to realize most people that share his opinion of gays, don't have a very high opinion of blacks either. Maybe that would help him to rethink whether or not his position is a clear minded one...............

[BoyAlley]

Originally Posted by UKJack

The guy never done anything wrong he just exercised his freedom of free speech and freedom to have an opinion just because the general public might not agree with him he should not be persecuted because that is just the same as persecuting someone for having gay thoughts "being gay"

Oh really? He shouldn't face public backlash?

What about people that put on a white hood and march down the street calling blacks no good n1ggers that should be hung? You don't think people should be outraged about that either? You don't think we as a society should continue to denounce their opinions as well?

Of COURSE he has the right to express himself. OF COURSE he has the freedom to believe what he wants.

BUT society has a RESPONSIBILITY to speak out against such bigotry when it's spoken, whether about blacks or gays or any other minority.

Especially when done by a public figure, in a public forum.

[UKJack]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Oh really? He shouldn't face public backlash?

What about people that put on a white hood and march down the street calling blacks no good n1ggers that should be hung? You don't think people should be outraged about that either? You don't think we as a society should continue to denounce their opinions as well?

Of COURSE he has the right to express himself. OF COURSE he has the freedom to believe what he wants.

BUT society has a RESPONSIBILITY to speak out against such bigotry when it's spoken, whether about blacks or gays or any other minority.

Especially when done by a public figure, in a public forum.

But its not that guys fault he dislikes gays maybe it was built into him just like gays were born gay it takes all sorts to make the world if everyone had the same opinion it would be a boring place I disagree with what he said but I respect his right to expression yes well maybe ppl feel angry about this but some ppl feel angry about gays they feel its immoral so I think it should not matter what people think and they should have a right to expression

If people don't like it ignore it, Yes he is black and I believe racism and homofobia is the same as hating a fat person we are making to many special rules protecting blacks and gays and what message that gives out is that they need these special laws to protect themselves because the cannot do it themselves making them seem weaker than say a fat person just because they are gay or black. I think laws protecting Blacks and Gays are racist and homophobic and blacks and gays should be offended by them.


Anyway I like black people as much as white people I like gay ppl just the same as straight ppl. I also think political correctness is going too far.

[Phoenix]

Hardaway played for five NBA teams from 1990-2003 and was a five-time All-Star. He finished with averages of 17.7 points and 8.2 assists

[BoyAlley]

Originally Posted by UKJack

I think laws protecting Blacks and Gays are racist and homophobic and blacks and gays should be offended by them.

You know what, you obviously know nothing about the legal problems gays face in this country, and that's OK. But perhaps you should educate yourself a bit before expressing opinions on the subject?

I don't want "special laws". And I don't need "protecting" the way you're making it out to be.

Do you know what I DO need?

I need the right to jointly file our taxes together.
I need the right to get spousal benefits for healthcare.
I need the right to visit my partner in the hospital should he get sick.
I need the right to make decisions about his care should he not be able to.
I need the right to bury him should he die.
I need the right to inherit the house we share together without being taxed out of it.

Gays don't want "special laws", gays want access to the same laws (over 1,200 of them) that are on the books to protect married couples, and allow them to support each other throughout life.

It takes thousands and thousands of dollars to have contracts drawn up to just TRY to get SOME of the basic rights that a heterosexual couple gets from a $50 marriage license. And even then, in many states, those contracts are easily overturned by families that "don't agree with the gay lifestyle" that their child or sibling has lived. Even other states have laws that expressly forbid the types of contracts necessary from even being valid at all.

Imagine spending 20 years with your wife, and she dies, and you can't even attend her funeral because her parents don't like you? Imagine spending 20 years with your wife, and she's in a car accident, and you can't visit her in the hospital because her parents won't let you.

All gays want, is to be able to care for those we've dedicated to spend our lives with.

[UKJack]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

You know what, you obviously know nothing about the legal problems gays face in this country, and that's OK. But perhaps you should educate yourself a bit before expressing opinions on the subject?

I don't want "special laws". And I don't need "protecting" the way you're making it out to be.

Do you know what I DO need?

I need the right to jointly file our taxes together.
I need the right to get spousal benefits for healthcare.
I need the right to visit my partner in the hospital should he get sick.
I need the right to make decisions about his care should he not be able to.
I need the right to bury him should he die.
I need the right to inherit the house we share together without being taxed out of it.

Gays don't want "special laws", gays want access to the same laws (over 1,200 of them) that are on the books to protect married couples, and allow them to support each other throughout life.

It takes thousands and thousands of dollars to have contracts drawn up to just TRY to get SOME of the basic rights that a heterosexual couple gets from a $50 marriage license. And even then, in many states, those contracts are easily overturned by families that "don't agree with the gay lifestyle" that their child or sibling has lived. Even other states have laws that expressly forbid the types of contracts necessary from even being valid at all.

Imagine spending 20 years with your wife, and she dies, and you can't even attend her funeral because her parents don't like you? Imagine spending 20 years with your wife, and she's in a car accident, and you can't visit her in the hospital because her parents won't let you.

All gays want, is to be able to care for those we've dedicated to spend our lives with.

Those would be common sense and equal laws I was not referring to those laws I also believe those should be implemented. The laws I was talking about were racist assault and so called anti-homophobic laws these are the laws I disagree with, These are the laws I am calling special because they group a certain amount of people together and single them out because they are gay or because they are black.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

You know what, you obviously know nothing about the legal problems gays face in this country, and that's OK. But perhaps you should educate yourself a bit before expressing opinions on the subject?

I don't want "special laws". And I don't need "protecting" the way you're making it out to be.

Do you know what I DO need?

I need the right to jointly file our taxes together.
I need the right to get spousal benefits for healthcare.
I need the right to visit my partner in the hospital should he get sick.
I need the right to make decisions about his care should he not be able to.
I need the right to bury him should he die.
I need the right to inherit the house we share together without being taxed out of it.

Gays don't want "special laws", gays want access to the same laws (over 1,200 of them) that are on the books to protect married couples, and allow them to support each other throughout life.

It takes thousands and thousands of dollars to have contracts drawn up to just TRY to get SOME of the basic rights that a heterosexual couple gets from a $50 marriage license. And even then, in many states, those contracts are easily overturned by families that "don't agree with the gay lifestyle" that their child or sibling has lived. Even other states have laws that expressly forbid the types of contracts necessary from even being valid at all.

Imagine spending 20 years with your wife, and she dies, and you can't even attend her funeral because her parents don't like you? Imagine spending 20 years with your wife, and she's in a car accident, and you can't visit her in the hospital because her parents won't let you.

All gays want, is to be able to care for those we've dedicated to spend our lives with.

Very compelling arguments.

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Do you know what I DO need?

I need the right to jointly file our taxes together.
I need the right to get spousal benefits for healthcare.
I need the right to visit my partner in the hospital should he get sick.
I need the right to make decisions about his care should he not be able to.
I need the right to bury him should he die.
I need the right to inherit the house we share together without being taxed out of it.

Isn't there something called a domestic partnership for some of this?

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command

let me be the first to say . probably a closet gay ....

Dunno, but it would be awesome to have a movie of Tim Hardaway getting bottomed by Reverend Ted Haggard. Although, Haggard seems more like a bottom than a top. Do you think they would ever consider getting together even to just explore some tenuous man feelings?

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler

Isn't there something called a domestic partnership for some of this?

Civil unions are like forcing blacks to sit at the back of the bus.

[Dirty Dane]

I hate basketball

[BoyAlley]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Civil unions are like forcing blacks to sit at the back of the bus.

Not to mention the fact that civil unions provide zero FEDERAL protections, and if the couple is out of the state, their union dissolves.

So if I live in Vermont, and have a civil union there (as it's one of the few places in the country that such unions exist), and my partner and I travel to New York, ALL of our protections vanish, and our civil union isn't recognized.

Imagine getting married in California, and you and your wife go on vacation to florida, where you're no longer married anymore?

[lorine]

I think that he is gay and he was refused by another man and he was pissed off !

[Malicious Biz]

And you know I don't think he should be in the locker room while we're in the locker room. I wouldn't even be a part of that," he said.

I completely agree with this... getting naked and hopping in the shower with other large, sweaty and muscular men is for straight guys only!

[Splum]

BEING BLACK AND BEING GAY IS NOT THE SAME AND SHOULDNT BE COMPARED YOU FUCKING RACIST BOYALLEY, YOU ARE NOT BORN GAY YOU FRUIT YOU CHOOSE TO BE GAY.

[Wizzo]

He's on the "DL" for sure.... haha

[BoyAlley]

Originally Posted by Splum

BEING BLACK AND BEING GAY IS NOT THE SAME AND SHOULDNT BE COMPARED YOU FUCKING RACIST BOYALLEY, YOU ARE NOT BORN GAY YOU FRUIT YOU CHOOSE TO BE GAY.

According to the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association being gay isn't a choice either. I'm not a racist, but you're apparently a bigot.

[Splum]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

According to the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association being gay isn't a choice either. I'm not a racist, but you're apparently a bigot.

Its all politically correct bullshit to satisfy you screaming bitches.
We could argue that killers are "naturally born" too, would you allow them to have the same rights as other people?

Dont try it BoyAlley, homosexuality is a choice whether it be naturally chosen or not. You are not born with a pussy you were born with a penis and the sole primary purpose of a penis is to procreate, you certainly cant procreate by shooting your sperm in some dudes ass. I am not a BIGOT here I am being LOGICAL, you want to use "medical science" to explain your abnormality because you feel "acceptance" is the only way for you to be "normal".

[Splum]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

According to the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association being gay isn't a choice either. I'm not a racist, but you're apparently a bigot.

Its all politically correct bullshit to satisfy you screaming bitches.
We could argue that killers are "naturally born" too, would you allow them to have the same rights as other people?

Dont try it BoyAlley, homosexuality is a choice whether it be personally naturally chosen or not. You are not born with a pussy you were born with a penis and the sole primary purpose of a penis is to procreate, you certainly cant procreate by shooting your sperm in some dudes ass. I am not a BIGOT here I am being LOGICAL, you want to use "medical science" to explain your abnormality because you feel "acceptance" is the only way for you to be "normal".

That being said I do not disagree that you should have the same basic rights as other people and maybe even special protection laws(such as unions and hate crime legislation).

[darling2]

I think that guy needs some manly love

lol

[stev0]

Originally Posted by UKJack

The guy never done anything wrong he just exercised his freedom of free speech and freedom to have an opinion just because the general public might not agree with him he should not be persecuted because that is just the same as persecuting someone for having gay thoughts "being gay"

lol, no its not... he's publicity voicing his hatred for a group of other people. Big difference between that and someone "being gay".

[interracialtoons]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

You know what? It always cracks me the hell up when I hear a black man speak out against gay people.

It wasn't too long ago, that people in this country were saying the same sorts of things about blacks that he's saying about gays. And it wasn't too long ago, that there were laws in this country that discriminated against blacks just like there are laws that discriminate against gays today. How many years ago was it that it was illegal for a black man to marry a white woman? Not many. Why? Because people "didn't think it was right".........

The truth of the matter is, gays have most of our problems from people in the south, and most of the southerners that will call me a faggot that deserves to burn in hell would call him a no good n1gger that should go back to Africa. And if he were to go out with one of their white daughters, they'd probably pull out a shotgun on him.

A close minded biggot is a close minded biggot. If he wants to feel more secure about himself as a minority by bashing a different minority so be it, but he needs to realize most people that share his opinion of gays, don't have a very high opinion of blacks either. Maybe that would help him to rethink whether or not his position is a clear minded one...............

If you hate "Fat Chicks/people" then don't complain about what the dude said.

You have a point about discrimination of gays but comparing it to that of blacks is not right. You do not have to disclose to anyone that you are gay and it's not on your birth certificate. If no one knew I was black until I told them then how could they discriminate against me?

Your drivers license dosen't say "gay", you don't have to put down gay on your job application or school enrollment. Your address does not reveal that you live in a "gay" neighborhood. You don't eat "gay food". Now replace the word "gay" with "black" in the above sentences and then tale me if it is the same.

I think the guy is out of line; but I also believe he would do/say nothing as long as a teammate didn't make his being gay an issue.

[CyberHustler]

I never said Civil Union, I said "DOMESTIC PARTNERSHIP!" ie:


From Wikipedia:

A domestic partnership is a legal or personal relationship between individuals who live together and share a common domestic life but are not joined in a traditional marriage, a common-law marriage, or a civil union. In some legal jurisdictions, domestic partners who live together for an extended period of time but are not legally entitled to common-law marriage may be entitled to legal protection in the form of a domestic partnership. Some domestic partners may enter into domestic partnership agreements in order to agree contractually to issues involving property ownership, support obligations, and similar issues common to marriage. (See effects of marriage and palimony.)

Some jurisdictions established domestic partnership relations by statute rather through judicial decisions. One of the purposes of domestic partnership relation is to recognize the contribution of one partner to the property of the other. In the common law, devices such as the constructive trust are available to protect spouses in legal or common-law marriages. In civil law jurisdictions, such trusts are generally not available, prompting courts to find alternative ways to protect the partner who contributes to the other's property.

Although some jurisdictions have instituted domestic partnerships as a way to recognize same-sex unions, domestic partnerships may involve either different-sex or same-sex couples.

[tranza]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

You know what? It always cracks me the hell up when I hear a black man speak out against gay people.

It wasn't too long ago, that people in this country were saying the same sorts of things about blacks that he's saying about gays. And it wasn't too long ago, that there were laws in this country that discriminated against blacks just like there are laws that discriminate against gays today. How many years ago was it that it was illegal for a black man to marry a white woman? Not many. Why? Because people "didn't think it was right".........

The truth of the matter is, gays have most of our problems from people in the south, and most of the southerners that will call me a faggot that deserves to burn in hell would call him a no good n1gger that should go back to Africa. And if he were to go out with one of their white daughters, they'd probably pull out a shotgun on him.

A close minded biggot is a close minded biggot. If he wants to feel more secure about himself as a minority by bashing a different minority so be it, but he needs to realize most people that share his opinion of gays, don't have a very high opinion of blacks either. Maybe that would help him to rethink whether or not his position is a clear minded one...............

Nice reply.

[Galina Los]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

You know what? It always cracks me the hell up when I hear a black man speak out against gay people.

It wasn't too long ago, that people in this country were saying the same sorts of things about blacks that he's saying about gays. And it wasn't too long ago, that there were laws in this country that discriminated against blacks just like there are laws that discriminate against gays today. How many years ago was it that it was illegal for a black man to marry a white woman? Not many. Why? Because people "didn't think it was right".........

I absolutely agree wiht you on that! holly shit... human is in right to love anybody he wants!

[fris]

that rocks, godhatesfags.com

[WalterWoot]

I think the problem isnt about what the ppl thinks or feel. The problem is about ppl behavior. The human being has come to this point of civilization only by one basic difference with the other animals: The capability to use a complex lenguage and representate it with characters. That allowed us to teach every new generation of humans the past discoveries and the things to discover new things. When a human hate or think in some way, isnt breaking any law, hes not doing anything wrong. Hes just a individual being. He will think and feel different from the rest of the ohter humans.

The real problem is when some "humans", forget how they came a racional being and stop talking. Then u got kkk, nazis killing jewish ppl at WW2, and jewish ppl killing palestines in same way today, forgoting all the shit about "nazi persecutes" they talk, u got terrorism, like 11s, and then u got wars, and a lot of shit.

So... We are half-evolutioned, and we still not-perfect-beings. I smoke weed, try to chill out, and enjoy my life. I just do what i like... Oh! You dont like what I do?? Then... Read the forum name! Yes!!! Go Fuck Yourself!!! I dont give a damn about what the hells r u thinking!!! Im just enjoying my short life, I recomend u all try to do the same thing and forgot about the ppl who talks shit about the things they dont understand or dislike. They just have a life so bored, that need to talk about other ppl life, to dont get bored. They have anything better to do.

What can I do? I just will keep enjoying my life. If i start talking about them in my free time, i just will end just like them: without a own life.

Love u all, be happy!

[LA Mike]

this thread is amusing

[Cory W]

Freedom of speech isn't in question. Respecting him because he used "a right" or "is honest" is odd. But to each their own.

What is in question is his decision to publicly spread hate. His decision to represent his employer in such a way. The NBA, as an organization, tries to keep its reputation as one of openness and that isn't a secret to anyone employed by the organization. They aren't to be used as a platform to spread hatred. The NBA exercises that right. He let down his organization.

Freedom of speech, as usual, has nothing to do with it. But it, as always, is the first place people run to.

[Hollywood376]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Civil unions are like forcing blacks to sit at the back of the bus.

Why would black folk have a problem with the back of the bus? All the cool kids sit in the back of the bus. The front of the bus is for girls with acne and headgear.

[DarkJedi]

I've always admired people who raise their middle fingers to society.

Here's two

Originally Posted by Splum

BEING BLACK AND BEING GAY IS NOT THE SAME AND SHOULDNT BE COMPARED YOU FUCKING RACIST BOYALLEY, YOU ARE NOT BORN GAY YOU FRUIT YOU CHOOSE TO BE GAY.

uh...no.
I had an attraction to men since before I hit puberty.
I remember being 10 and being with my friends and finding a pile of dirty magazines behind some old firehouse that homeless people probably had, and we'd look at the pictures. My friends would comment on the girls and Id play along, but really I was looking at the guys.
Years later it led to me having almost no friends in high school and I ate lunch alone. Trust me, most teenagers just want to fit in and I dont think any teenager would choose to be gay and harassed at school.

Why would so many teenage kids commit suicide over being gay if they'd choose to be gay?

btw, beating up on gays and not allowing gay marriage is dangerous because when a gay guy has to marry a woman because he's embarassed about being gay that's not right to him or her, or the kids they end up having.

I know a LOT of gay men who went and married women to try and fit in, tried to hide their homosexuality for decades, and then in their 40s & 50's couldnt do it anymore and got divorced and went to be with a gay lover.
So now he wasted his life being with a woman he didnt want, she waster her life being with a man who didnt really want her, and the kids end up with divorced parents.

[cranki]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

You know what? It always cracks me the hell up when I hear a black man speak out against gay people.

It wasn't too long ago, that people in this country were saying the same sorts of things about blacks that he's saying about gays. And it wasn't too long ago, that there were laws in this country that discriminated against blacks just like there are laws that discriminate against gays today. How many years ago was it that it was illegal for a black man to marry a white woman? Not many. Why? Because people "didn't think it was right".........

The truth of the matter is, gays have most of our problems from people in the south, and most of the southerners that will call me a faggot that deserves to burn in hell would call him a no good n1gger that should go back to Africa. And if he were to go out with one of their white daughters, they'd probably pull out a shotgun on him.

A close minded biggot is a close minded biggot. If he wants to feel more secure about himself as a minority by bashing a different minority so be it, but he needs to realize most people that share his opinion of gays, don't have a very high opinion of blacks either. Maybe that would help him to rethink whether or not his position is a clear minded one...............

I agree with tranza, that's a nice reply

[Splum]

Originally Posted by teh ghey

uh...no. I had an attraction to men since before I hit puberty. I remember being 10 and being with my friends and finding a pile of dirty magazines behind some old firehouse that homeless people probably had, and we'd look at the pictures. My friends would comment on the girls and Id play along, but really I was looking at the guys. Years later it led to me having almost no friends in high school and I ate lunch alone. Trust me, most teenagers just want to fit in and I dont think any teenager would choose to be gay and harassed at school. Why would so many teenage kids commit suicide over being gay if they'd choose to be gay?

Then how come you werent born with a pussy?

[Splum]

Originally Posted by teh ghey

btw, beating up on gays and not allowing gay marriage is dangerous because when a gay guy has to marry a woman because he's embarassed about being gay that's not right to him or her, or the kids they end up having. I know a LOT of gay men who went and married women to try and fit in, tried to hide their homosexuality for decades, and then in their 40s & 50's couldnt do it anymore and got divorced and went to be with a gay lover.
So now he wasted his life being with a woman he didnt want, she waster her life being with a man who didnt really want her, and the kids end up with divorced parents.

Who in this thread said anything about beating up someone who is gay?
You have issues.

[CrazyAussieBastard]

I don't just hate gay people...I hate everyone.....your all bitches and bastards

Bruce Out!

[StickyGreen]

lmao @ boyalley comparing race to being a faggot...

[VoteForPedro]

What on earth does race have to do with being gay? Martin Luther King is rolling over in his grave right now.

[Agent 488]

this thread is gay.