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baddog · 01-25-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

And what if they fail the drug test? Any action you take against them will have terrible results for everyone else.

How so??

Peaches · 01-25-2007, 04:26 PM

The beauty of it is that they get to vote too. I know I'm going to be hated on this, but IMO, if you don't pay taxes, you don't get to vote into office those who decide how tax revenue is going to be spent.

Now they have debit cards in GA, but when I was working in a small store in college that took food stamps, we always had people who would come in and buy 10 cents worth of stuff, you have to give anything less than $1 back in change in real money, so they'd do it several times a day, then just happen to have $$$ for beer and cigarettes - all in coins of course ;)

beemk · 01-25-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

if they are going to do that, they should start firing everyone who has beers after they get off work.

smoking joints is illegal, drinking beers is not.

with that said, if someone is too lazy to work and wants free money from the government, they shouldnt be allowed to drink OR smoke weed.

american pervert · 01-25-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by D

That's one way to look at it, sure...

But, then, are you also saying that anyone applying for a loan from a Federal Credit Union, or anyone receiving a government loan or grant for school should be required to expose every ounce of their private life to the public as well?

What about tax exempt peeps that visit a national park, or federally recognized disabled people that drive a car on our roads... does that mean they should have to take a piss test, too?

Like I said - it's a slippery slope... best to just avoid going down that road as much as you're able, imho.

a loan is not a free hand out, and it also says "hey, I'm a productive member of society"

welfare is a hand out, plain and simple.

also, they stopped giving gov't college loans to kids who have drugs violations on their records

HomeFry · 01-25-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

i am against drug tests across the board.

i think it is ridiculous that something you do in your free time could cause you to lose your job.

if i go home after a long day of work, smoke a joint, and then come in the next day to get drug tested, and get fired, that is just bullshit.

if they are going to do that, they should start firing everyone who has beers after they get off work.

now if the drugs interfere with your ability to work i don't see a problem with testing, the potentially firing them, but randomly is just bullshit. if it is not effecting your job performance i don't think it is neccesary.

-edit-

i don't think drug tests are the answer to helping reform our welfare system, it is a much more complex problem than that.

If you can afford drugs, you can afford to not be on welfare.

interracialtoons · 01-25-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

poor people deserve to get high too.

Yeah, the main reason many of them get high is to ease the depression from being poor.

interracialtoons · 01-25-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HomeFry

If you can afford drugs, you can afford to not be on welfare.

See, buy a $20 bag of weed from the dealer who is not on welfare and you role a joint from the bag. Then you sell the bag for $20 to some middle class dude in a red cammaro who don't know any drug dealers.
Repeat the cycle for the next joint. After you cycle 10 times the dealer will like you and give you a free bag when you buy the next $20.

You never make any money or actually spend any, but you're always high.

theruyan · 01-26-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by interracialtoons

Yeah, the main reason many of them get high is to ease the depression from being poor.

This is correct. Either that or they suffer from health issues they self-medicate with drugs and alcohol. Who can blame them.

As much as people don't want to hear it, the answer to welfare is sterilization or at least long term birth control. You can't collect welfare or other government programs unless you have children in most cases.

Very few of the children being raised in poverty actually grow up to lift themselves out of poverty and this exponentially creates even more miserable people who can't take care of themselves; population grows exponentially.

Drug tests are not going to solve the problem, sex without birth control is not a drug addiction that can be "tested" for.

spasmo · 01-26-2007, 12:34 AM

How do I get this "welfare" you speak of?

After all, what I do is not work. I should be subsidized.

beemk · 01-26-2007, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by interracialtoons

See, buy a $20 bag of weed from the dealer who is not on welfare and you role a joint from the bag. Then you sell the bag for $20 to some middle class dude in a red cammaro who don't know any drug dealers.
Repeat the cycle for the next joint. After you cycle 10 times the dealer will like you and give you a free bag when you buy the next $20.

You never make any money or actually spend any, but you're always high.

that right there is a job, people on welfare dont like jobs.

escorpio · 01-26-2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by interracialtoons

Yeah, the main reason many of them get high is to ease the depression from being poor.

A job would be a much better remedy.

interracialtoons · 01-26-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

A job would be a much better remedy.

Sure would be better.

I'm amazed that people believe there are enough jobs to go around.

The guy who was selling "Help Wanted" signs went out of business a few years back; sales were way down.

Jenny S. · 01-26-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

Isn't socialism grand?

Absolutely. Especially when it goes like "enter a no-bid contract and get billions of tax dollars for doing virtually nothing"

After Shock Media · 01-26-2007, 01:25 PM

Wait many farmers would pass piss tests and still get money for shit that does not need to be grown.

smack · 01-26-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

I agree with you 100%, smack, but going to the mailbox once a month and saying "Hello, check!" ain't a job.

agreed, but drug tests aren't going to stop that. there needs to be a comprehensive welfare reform movement. that program ABSOLUTELY must be there to help those who need it. they just need to figure out a better way to rid the system of abuse.

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Originally Posted by beemk

smoking joints is illegal, drinking beers is not.

with that said, if someone is too lazy to work and wants free money from the government, they shouldnt be allowed to drink OR smoke weed.

the only reason beer isn't illegal is because it is socially acceptable. but that is a whole other thread.

and you have a very skewed view of welfare. most people who recieve welfare are not too lazy to work, they just need some help when they are down on their luck. nothing wrong with that at all. that is why the system is there to being with.

and i still maintain that what people do behind closed doors is their own buisness as long as it doesn't effect their employer.

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Originally Posted by HomeFry

If you can afford drugs, you can afford to not be on welfare.

not all people have to pay for their drugs. many times they are offered for free at parties or from friends. ;)

smack · 01-26-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Wait many farmers would pass piss tests and still get money for shit that does not need to be grown.

oh don't even get me started on the farming subsidies in this country.

american pervert · 01-26-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HomeFry

If you can afford drugs, you can afford to not be on welfare.

there is always money for drugs/smokes/booze no matter how broke you are

baddog · 01-26-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by american pervert

there is always money for drugs/smokes/booze no matter how broke you are

Reminds me of an old expression:

Times with weed and no money are easier than times with money and no weed.

escorpio · 01-26-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Reminds me of an old expression:

Times with weed and no money are easier than times with money and no weed.

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escorpio · 01-26-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by interracialtoons

Sure would be better.

I'm amazed that people believe there are enough jobs to go around.

The guy who was selling "Help Wanted" signs went out of business a few years back; sales were way down.

Yeah, there are no jobs in the U.S.A. That's why Mexicans jump the fence.

Splum · 01-26-2007, 02:56 PM

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