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Old 01-08-2007, 12:31 PM   #51
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If an affiliate makes a deal and he's not some GFY moron with 8 clicks, I'll go add a 100 bucks to his account and cover his next 2 years of check fees
hahahahaha

nice

i just checked my stats and I am showing 8 clicks from this period....

wanna know why? because ramos doesn't follow through with ANYTHING he says he will...other sponsor reps that chatted me up on icq and got shit done that they said they would get done, now have 500-1000 uniques a day coming from me from pure SE traffic...but ramos talked that big game, and never got anything done

so, make fun of my 8 hits for this period all you want, it was YOUR rep that didn't get shit done
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:33 PM   #52
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I find it very convient on Fridays that when I hit "pay" 1000's of people have the money that second regardless of where they live. To me, that's of GREAT value. But like I said, it's a choice, no one is forcing anyone.

If an affiliate makes a deal and he's not some GFY moron with 8 clicks, I'll go add a 100 bucks to his account and cover his next 2 years of check fees

For those that obviously don't know us, we actually have a great relationship with all our affiliates. We host many of them on dedicated servers shoot content for them, hang out etc. . . A couple morons from GFY with no relationship with us or our affiliates won't change that LOL
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They would rather have 1:3000 TGP traffic than 1:20 SE traffic. Simple enough.
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im sorry that you feel the people who don't send thousands of hits a day to you and get 3 sales are more important then the guys who send 8 and get a sale, shows who you care more about, personally, i would rather treat ALL affiliates the same, whether they send me 500 hits and get 3 sales, or 100 hits and get 1 sale, they are your bread and butter, but i guess you're shitting on them here...

i personally, haven't pushed mayors money much as i really don't have the traffic for that niche, but this thread, and your mentality towards the small guys, makes me not want too, solo sites are dime a dozen, i can send my traffic to someone else

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Old 01-08-2007, 12:33 PM   #53
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hahahahaha

nice

i just checked my stats and I am showing 8 clicks from this period....

wanna know why? because ramos doesn't follow through with ANYTHING he says he will...other sponsor reps that chatted me up on icq and got shit done that they said they would get done, now have 500-1000 uniques a day coming from me from pure SE traffic...but ramos talked that big game, and never got anything done

so, make fun of my 8 hits for this period all you want, it was YOUR rep that didn't get shit done
That is going to leave a mark.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:34 PM   #54
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They would rather have 1:3000 TGP traffic than 1:20 SE traffic. Simple enough.
lol, not true, I just don't want to do business with people who conduct themselves in this manner. I hand pick the people I deal with now. Consequently I get to deal with a lot of cool cats and I avoid the morons

BTW, hit me up on ICQ I have something of a non-public nature to tell you.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:39 PM   #55
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they're not the first company to create a disincentive for paper checks in the age of electronic transactions and they wont be the last.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:53 PM   #56
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Instead of using the stick mayor, you should have used the carrot.

Incentive to use EPass/Wire would have been enough, raising the check cost to $5 was sure to drum up a public outlash like this (even though it's only 5 friggin dollars).

Alot of people still rightfully have reservations about Epass.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:59 PM   #57
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Instead of using the stick mayor, you should have used the carrot.

Incentive to use EPass/Wire would have been enough, raising the check cost to $5 was sure to drum up a public outlash like this (even though it's only 5 friggin dollars).

Alot of people still rightfully have reservations about Epass.
I suppose you could have a point, but if you notice, not one productive webmaster is quitting, not one of these guys would have ever been accepted as an affiliate. So really the effect is the same only this way I get a busy thread ;)
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:01 PM   #58
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dam that sucks :|

cant complain that much though seeing as mayorsmoney converts and more importantly rebills the best for me than any other sponser.
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:02 PM   #59
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i just changed my payout to epass

Now just waiting for the email
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:06 PM   #60
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Which retard thinks that the webmasters should pay to run the fucking sponsor's business?? That's fucking ridiculous. I would be much more fucking disturbed if they were my sponsor.

What's next, $10 fee to all affiliates for 'hosted gallery server rental' ?
Not a bad idea really. People who are using the bandwidth will spend money, while people who are not would essentially be making more per payout, or could spend that "$10" cost somewhere else..

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Old 01-08-2007, 01:07 PM   #61
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When I read the e-mail I was a bit shocked at first but thinking about it then its not so bad really. More and more sponsors are trying to get people to take their pay outs via epass and that suits me fine. Checks suck. Epass is instant and much better in my opinion
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I suppose you could have a point, but if you notice, not one productive webmaster is quitting, not one of these guys would have ever been accepted as an affiliate. So really the effect is the same only this way I get a busy thread ;)
personally, im not mad about the $5 fee, do what you gotta do, my gripe is about how you handled yourself in this thread... if you were more professional, i wouldn't of had a problem, but you ran your mouth instead of being professional, and "these guys who whine wouldn't be accepted anyway" i'm whining, and i was accepted to your program, so whats that mean? you'll kill my account?
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:10 PM   #63
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While $5 does seem a bit steep, I'd rather pay that then get an ePass payment, even with automatic bank transfer. I'm just a little fish and I still get around 10 checks a week, its a LOT easier recording my checks than checking my bank account every day to see if Company ABC is paying. I will admit that doing this does slow down the process of me actually "having" the money by 2-4 weeks, but I'm cool with that.
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yes, but that is a cost of doing business, not an affiliate cost. Passing on every expense to the affiliate is a really big no-no.

Next fees will be the "content shooting fee" and "image color correction fee" and the "video encoding fee"...

pretty soon we will all send joins just for the fun of it.
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Mayor's business, Mayor's rules. I doubt he'd have been around this long if he weren't doing quite a few things right.
uhm you got some shit on your nose still, can you wipe that off please
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I suppose you could have a point, but if you notice, not one productive webmaster is quitting, not one of these guys would have ever been accepted as an affiliate. So really the effect is the same only this way I get a busy thread ;)
I dunno, still doesn't look good for any future players to see this. But hey, your company, your deal. You've done better than 99% of the people that post here myself excluded of course, so fuck em all
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:21 PM   #68
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I got that email today too... I don't know what everyone is complaining about.

$5 for a cheque isn't bad especially when you have a free epass option, you guys compare it to an employer charging you for your pay cheque? Well guess what, you're not an employee, you're a third party affiliate. Do you expect them to pay your bank fee's too when you deposit it?

Besides, i'm pretty sure the affiliates they aim to please aren't the ones bitching and moaning about an extra 5 bucks.
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I got that email today too... I don't know what everyone is complaining about.

$5 for a cheque isn't bad especially when you have a free epass option, you guys compare it to an employer charging you for your pay cheque? Well guess what, you're not an employee, you're a third party affiliate. Do you expect them to pay your bank fee's too when you deposit it?

Besides, i'm pretty sure the affiliates they aim to please aren't the ones bitching and moaning about an extra 5 bucks.
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I suppose you could have a point, but if you notice, not one productive webmaster is quitting, not one of these guys would have ever been accepted as an affiliate. So really the effect is the same only this way I get a busy thread ;)
With all due respect, you have no way of knowing that.

As the owner of a board you must know you have a lot more lurkers than posters.

Every show I go to I meet someone new that only knows me from reading my posts but has never posted word one.
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I feel I have to jump in. Mayors Money has been nothing short of great with me. Almost every one of thier crew has ICQ'd me and tried to get my conversions up, helped me with many many things. I am the farthest thing from a "whale" you could be in this business. In fact, I am surprsied they havent dropped me as an affiliate yet. Its $5. If you dont want to pay it, go with ePassporte. He offered to pay for your acct, who cares. Thier program converts and rebills.

About Ramos, I complained my stats were low, needed something fresh, the next day I guess the team made me 20 templates, FREE, and gave them to me. The ratios went way up. That was within 24 hours.Try asking another program for that.

I suppose I'm saying I would pay $50 a pay period for help and dedication like these guys have given me. Im not trying to start a fight, Im just giving input from the "little mans" POV.

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lol this thread turned funny

BTW I had to drop a sponsor recently although they were the top converters for me, because they were offering only checks

(GGW Cash)

personally I hate checks and will never receive a single check payment from anyone anymore

Epass rules for smaller amounts... and for bigger sums, wires are perfect
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I like getting my money right away also, but I also like to have a hardcopy of a check for records etc. $5 is steep for sure, and Epass fucking blows.
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hahahahaha

nice

i just checked my stats and I am showing 8 clicks from this period....

wanna know why? because ramos doesn't follow through with ANYTHING he says he will...other sponsor reps that chatted me up on icq and got shit done that they said they would get done, now have 500-1000 uniques a day coming from me from pure SE traffic...but ramos talked that big game, and never got anything done

so, make fun of my 8 hits for this period all you want, it was YOUR rep that didn't get shit done
Jace, we chatted about working together. If I remember correctly, you pointed out that our RSS Feeds were not working properly. So, I had them fixed and within a short time they were working properly. I took care of the issue at hand. If there is something else that I missed I will be more than happy to help you.

I handle all of MayorsMoney Affiliates, so if I missed something that we were supposed to have done for you or I didn't follow up properly, these things happen and I apologize.

If you speak with webmasters, affiliates and folks I work with, you'll see that I go above and beyond and work as hard as I possibly can.

I'd be glad to cover anything that was missed. Hit Me Up Email or my MayorsMoney ICQ: 211129497
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I feel I have to jump in. Mayors Money has been nothing short of great with me. Almost every one of thier crew has ICQ'd me and tried to get my conversions up, helped me with many many things. I am the farthest thing from a "whale" you could be in this business. In fact, I am surprsied they havent dropped me as an affiliate yet. Its $5. If you dont want to pay it, go with ePassporte. He offered to pay for your acct, who cares. Thier program converts and rebills.

About Ramos, I complained my stats were low, needed something fresh, the next day I guess the team made me 20 templates, FREE, and gave them to me. The ratios went way up. That was within 24 hours.Try asking another program for that.

I suppose I'm saying I would pay $50 a pay period for help and dedication like these guys have given me. Im not trying to start a fight, Im just giving input from the "little mans" POV.

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Tie your epass to your bank account and save the fees. Most people I pay would have to pull cash out every day if they were trying to hit the ATM lol.
Epass has a charge on regular accounts to move the cash to the bank account. It is $2 i think.
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doesn't bother me really, just wierd is all....$5 is pretty hefty for a check fee, what exactly costs $5 for a check to be cut and mailed? do they use some outside service?
Epassporte is the more convenient method for everyone, and upping the pay sounds like a motivational way to get customers converted over. Helps everyone out.
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That has to be the dumbest comment you have ever made. Seriously.

Affiliates aren't customers... you don't have to please the pricks unless you are the type of guy who likes to get shat on on for a couple clicks.
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With all due respect, you have no way of knowing that.

As the owner of a board you must know you have a lot more lurkers than posters.

Every show I go to I meet someone new that only knows me from reading my posts but has never posted word one.
You may be right, you may be wrong. I'm betting $5 check fees won't keep the guys that get 10K+ weekly wires from using us. If it does I'll eat my words
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You may be right, you may be wrong. I'm betting $5 check fees won't keep the guys that get 10K+ weekly wires from using us. If it does I'll eat my words

Hmm...May I have one of those please?
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mayor, epassporte is a horrible option for non US webmasters as i cant transfer the funds to my bank account. they have withdrawal fees and limits. i understand your reasoning, but i think you're inadvertedly penalizing your international affiliates, including myself
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Im curious epassporte is a offshore company , pretty sure has no guarantee for deposits. So if they go ever go under will mayors money repay their affiliates deposits lost, considering they are pushing them to use this service?
Customer Service 101 your convenience doesn't matter your affiliates does.

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can someone from MM go into my account and change my payout method to epass, im not getting the confirmation/verification email.
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Im curious epassporte is a offshore company , pretty sure has no guarantee for deposits. So if they go ever go under will mayors money repay their affiliates deposits lost, considering they are pushing them to use this service?
Customer Service 101 your convenience doesn't matter your affiliates does.
Actually already more than 80% of my affiliates are using epass because getting the money instantly is more convenient for them.


Rabbit, hit me up on ICQ I'll see if we can figure something out for you. I am not forcing epass on anyone. Just trying to make it more appealing.
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Actually already more than 80% of my affiliates are using epass because getting the money instantly is more convenient for them.


Rabbit, hit me up on ICQ I'll see if we can figure something out for you. I am not forcing epass on anyone. Just trying to make it more appealing.
Then I stand corrected, dont understand it but thats me
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Looks fine to me, I'll double check with NATS to see why it's still saying it needs verification.
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Sending out checks costs money, if they didn't charge a fee it would result in lower payouts.
Some would argue that charging a fee results in lower payouts. ;)
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Not to miss a low blow, Sexbankroll doesn't charge fees on any payment that comes out of our office.

Props to you boys over at Mayors Money

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Old 01-08-2007, 03:45 PM   #91
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at least they are offering a free option. In the last few weeks I have looked at at least three sponsors that are charing for every option including eppassporte.
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:47 PM   #92
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I like getting my money right away also, but I also like to have a hardcopy of a check for records etc. $5 is steep for sure, and Epass fucking blows.
I prefer direct deposit myself. Your bank statement serves as a hardcopy.

Only a handful of spnsors offer that so I have to settle for mostly checks.

I don't mess with wires because those fees add up when you're getting paid from like 20 different places.

I don't mess with epass either. I like to deal with only my bank.
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:52 PM   #93
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i have a awful epass card can you guys give me a new card? :P is it possible to have two accts on epass (stupid question)

since epass just eat up those yearly fees without giving the clients new cards
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:56 PM   #94
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pretty ridiculous... cashing a check at the bank is about $15 here, so that would make it $20 total for everyone who wants a piece.. i use the epass payout at MM but still....
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:57 PM   #95
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that seems like a high fee to send a check out...
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:58 PM   #96
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pretty ridiculous... cashing a check at the bank is about $15 here, so that would make it $20 total for everyone who wants a piece.. i use the epass payout at MM but still....
They charge you $15 a check even if you have a bank account?

Fuck that.
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:59 PM   #97
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I am trying to figure out what an audit would look like with an epass card in the middle of the game. Ugly.
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:01 PM   #98
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I spend twice that in a day on Lattes.

When did this industry get filled up with so many crybabies??

You're allowed to talk shit about a company, then when the talk shit back about you have a tizzy fit? If you can't take what you dish out, then don't dish it out.
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:02 PM   #99
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paying for payments is bullshit...I would never pay unless its a special request or wire ect.
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:04 PM   #100
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pretty ridiculous... cashing a check at the bank is about $15 here, so that would make it $20 total for everyone who wants a piece.. i use the epass payout at MM but still....
Your bank charges you $15 to cash a check??
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