scottybuzz

Yep, foreign banks charge if you wish to cash a cheque of a different currency. sucks.

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Its FREE. Mayor even said it in this thread.

Y'all are throwin a hissy fit over nothing. MayorsMoney has been one of the best programs I have ever used and they treat me like family.

Rock on MayorsMoney

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flashfire

okay big man send me 5 epass every day you spend twice that on lattes, with the kind of business I send to my sponsers I wouldnt pay 2 cents for a check...my sponsers bend over backwards to keep my traffic not the other way around

kenny

And I spend even more on bar tabs almost daily.

I look at it this way.

If I had to spend $5 for every sponsor check over the course of the year it would add up to $1000 - $1500 per year.

I figure 20 - 30 checks in all sizes from various sponsors monthly.

Granted that isn't alot of money annually a thousand dollars is still a thousand dollars.

Seriously though checks are rather dumb and I wish more sponsors would setup direct deposits.

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Snake Doctor

Epass payments are fine as long as you offer wires to your whales.

If you make more than 4K a week with one sponsor epass is horrible because the withdrawal limit is $600 per day to your bank account. So basically you never get all of your money in the bank, in which case a check is preferable.

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WiredGuy

I personally prefer checks so that it streamlines with my accountant, we don't typically take wires or other electronic payments. Still, $5/check isn't the end of the world.
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kenny

Looking at it this way I can also see why the program in question opted to add the $5 fee.

They probably make a killing with all the checks they have to mail out

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georgeyw

What are the rules set for an affiliate to be accepted to your program?

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Mayor

I am adding a "big check" option to meet half way. If you insist on getting a check and not being charged then select "Big Check" and set your min payout at $500 or $1000. If insist on being paid in smaller amounts you can do so but you'll be paying $5 for the small checks.

Or you can take epass payments at no fee.

Ramos

there's not too many rules, its more of a case to case basis, enables us to really work with the affiliate and make more and more $$$ together, let's chat and do some biz together

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kenny

That is a fair option.

How difficult is it to setup direct deposit options?

I'm just curious I know a few sponsors that have this and to me it seems like the best option.

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spacedog

For those who replied that they prefer checks due to accounting, well, I suppose that you did not know that epass offers you monthly statements.


No.. I guess your accountant couldn't work with that..

Personally, I'd rather have 12 statements than a friggen shoebox full of check stubs

Mayor

If you were sending me traffic I highly doubt you'd have any fee issues

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Mayor

Direct deposit is a far better option and we're working on it. We used to offer it when WTS was set up to do it but they stopped almost as soon as we got set up

Soon though.

kenny

Thats great.

I only wish that more sponsors were working on it.

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yo man, emailed you a few question. I didn't see you online in icq

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Mayor - Rezzzpect!!!

I was asking for webmaster feedback about the same thing 6 months ago or so. It's good to see some people still have balls to innovate and force improvement.

I myself dropped the check payout completely - strong players adapt, weak players stay away. Was able to focus the time it previously took to send checks into support for the strong players and improving conversions and the result was a 20% increase of traffic the next month.

I run my affiliate program like a bank - normal clients get great service and those big clients get special service.

nico-t

yea and thats even one of the cheaper banks here... heard of a bank asking ?30 (around $40!) to cash a damn check! Checks are not a common paying method here, everything goes electronic... but even though checks are ancient as fuck that still aint an argument for the fucking banks to ask so much to cash it.

thats one of the reasons i use epass at sponsors who support it.... not to think of all the late checks lately

Scroto

lol no worries, thanks again.. appreciated

Mayor

Nice to see I am not the only one who shares the sentiment.

suesheboy

I refuse to deal with PayPal (they have fucked many over and have fees and limit withdrawals )

I refuse to deal with Epassport (No value to a US business person at all. Why should I pay for deposits or withdrawals or be limited in withdrawals?)

I would never allow a direct deposit other than payroll even then I had major issues with Compupay and Paychecks - took them almost a year to get my 401k straightened out with more than $17,000 unaccounted for when the company switched processors and no one would help me out and kept pointing fingers. Showed on my statements but was never "there" (crooked comptroller).

Checks only and FDIC insured places to put it. Should I pay for "pay" checks? No just as I wouldn't expect a sponsor to call me collect or send me mail postage due.

I love you Mayor but I think it is a poor idea.

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I love DD. I really wish more sponsors would offer it also.

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using epassporte isnt innovative lol It sounds like your company cant afford a 10 buck a hour bookkeeper to write checks.

eGawd

Just because they'd rather send you Epassporte, which is more convenient, doesn't mean they don't want your traffic.

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does Mayors Money have equity in epassporte? lol

to each their own

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AaronM

Well said, Kimmy.

So far I've only read the first page of this thread but from what I've seen, the ignorance of the average GFY member is still mind numbing.

Mayor is right about checks being archaic. Personally, I hate them. The funny thing is that most of you are broke and need the money as soon as you can get it. Why wait for a check when you can have it now?

For what it's worth, I've done business with hundreds of people in this industry over the years and Mayor is BY FAR the most generous, honest, and level headed client I have EVER had. If you choose not to send him traffic over something as stupid as this then you're a shitty businessman....PERIOD.

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Legendary_Samir

I will deliver checks in person for that much.

kaori

can't do that here in Canada... only US accounts..
To be truthful, I haven't looked into it in several months now..

AaronM

Rabbit, I'm honestly surprised to read this. I know for a fact that you have great traffic and a nominal $5 fee should not concern you in the least.

To those complaining.....

CCBill, every sponsor I use, my own merchant accounts, and all of my clients pay me via wire or ACH these days. Some charge a $10 fee and some charge $40. On top of that, my bank also charges me $10 per received wire. Sure, I would prefer no fees but if you are really concerned about paying them perhaps you should return to Taco Bell where they hand you your check every other week.......Although you may have to pay a small fee to cash it.

will76

Yeah Sending out checks is expensive, that .005 cent envelope and .39 cent stamp, don't forget the max .50 worth of labor to type in the info on the check, press print, and the put the check in the envelope. Prehaps if they get self adhesive stamps and they didn't have to lick it they could drop the charge down to $4.75 ?

Charging for checks is retarded. There should be at least 1 option to send payouts without a fee. I can understand if someone wants fedex, or even epass etc... pass the extra fee along but if you don't give them a free option, thats not cool. Why nickle and dime (or tax) the people who are making you money. If you want to cut corners and are that hard up for cash perhaps turn off a few lights or flush the toliet less, or byotp (bring your own toliet paper) to work. There are other ways to cut corners then taking it from your affiliates.

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will76

That is really stupid way of thinking.

Us guys are pretty funny? Did you know that some major banks block people from setting up epassport accounts ? Chase bank being one of them.

So you think a payment method (sending check by mail), the most common payment method out there is silly, so you charge a high fee in an attempt to convert people into receiving money the way you want them to receive it, instead of the way they want to receive their money.

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baddog

Sorry, got to disagree.

will76

I wonder why program owners even open their mouths on GFY?

Some of you might be making money and sure you made some good decissions to get where you are but you also say some stupid shit sometimes.

Well shit if no one is quiting from you raising the fee to $5, why stop there why not raise it to $10, if no one gets pissed off at $10 try $20. Then like you said if the big "playas" get mad they can contact you and you can deposit money in their account to cover it but the little guy will just have to eat shit and smile.

BTW, if you give in and dont charge the big playas the check fee then doesn't that defeat your purpose of trying to convert everyone to epass. " I raised the check fee so people will start using epass, but if you send a lot of joins and you dont want to pay the fee i will deposit money in your account to cover the fee"


Congrats on your busy thread.

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AaronM

Mayor feeds him special brownies.

AaronM

Disagree all you like. Even you are wrong at times.

AaronM

Buncha cry babies in this thread.

Let me break this down for you....

Mayor pays 10's of thousands of dollars for the content production of his exclusive sites. I personally know this to be true as he is one of my clients. Going from there he pays to have the site designed, hosted, and then hires even more staff to babysit you lazy fuckers who have the balls to call yourselves webmasters.

They give you free hosting and FHGs that MM pays for.

I could go on and on about the costs involved in starting up and running a successful paysite and Mayor has many of them.

This business is more or less built on partnerships and Mayor has done ALL of the ground work. All you have to do is sign up, grab some galleries with your link codes, and sit on your ass while submitting them. You don't have to pay a fucking dime to get started. Meanwhile, Mayor is shoveling money out hand over fist to make things run as smooth as possible. Then he pays you at least 50% of the sales and out of his 50% he eats the processing, hosting, and other day to day costs with running a business.

You are nothing but a bunch of ingrates.

It's 5 fucking dollars. I see people brag on GFY about their cars, homes, computers, TV's, whatever.....And then you bitch about 5 bucks. Some of you seriously need to be bitch slapped.

will76

Personally, I would rather have my money sent directly to ME or my bank and not a third party handling the money. Which I can't even open a epass account at my bank anyway. Didn't Tony say epass is offshore? I am pretty sure epass is not FDIC insured. Would suck to have money in an account with them and have something happen to their company.

Who gives a fuck about the $5, it's the principle and the idiotic reasons that were given why this was done that I am more interested in. Orginally is was to " convert people to 21st century ways to send money". The " if you a re a playa I will deposit money into your account to cover the fee". Now there is a big check option without fee. It appears Mayor's money doesn't want to deal with the time it takes to send out 1000's of small checks and the small costs involved with it. Why not just come out and say it and be upfront.

Threads like this are informative. It is nice to see how some people, especially program owners handle criticism. (note, not everyone that disagrees with you is a moron that would have never been acepted to your program.) It is also funny to see how others reply. " what the hell is everyone bitching about it is only $5" those statements say a lot about you people too.

carry on....

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studiocritic

Hmm? So mr. content producer, you don't have any costs then, either.. right?

Really.. all you do is go pluck girls off the street, take pictures of them with a borrowed camera in a free hotel room and upload them to your client from the local library's PC?

Oh wait, you said the most retarded thing in this thread, so I was responding in-kind.

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I'm not sure what planet you're talking about where checks are retarded and archaic. It's still the most universally accepted way of paying affiliates throughout all internet industries. I don't see companies like Google paying out affiliates in ePassporte. But perhaps those folks are simply behind the times and living in the past century.

As for the holy saint of ePassporte, it's not a very good solution for US webmasters. First, they're offshore and my funds are not protected. If someone hacks my account or does anything with my funds, I'm not covered. I have no paper trail to show that I was paid either. To a small webmaster in a European country, it's great, for a real business it's just a pain.

On top of that, ePassporte isn't instant. To transfer funds to my bank account it takes nearly 2 weeks sometimes. It also costs money to transfer to my bank account. There is a reason Google Adwords doesn't allow you to fund your account with ePassporte. It's a nice alternative option, but in no way should an offshore company with no liability for transactions ever be considered better than a check from a US bank.

While it's certainly not the end of the world, I wouldn't go chastizing people for not being happy about it. I think it's always a touchy issue when you are charging people a fee for them being paid for something they did for you. I think the situation would have been much less dramatic if you explained the reasoning nicely without bashing checks and affiliates that don't send you enough traffic for your liking.

will76

wow good for you! so because you do it this way so should everyone else ?

I've had millions of dollars of affiliate money sent to me via check. It is the way I prefer to do business and receive my money. I don't need the money today, I can wait for my check. My checks go directly to ME. I would never use epass or paypal or similar services. A wire transfer would be nice but call me cheap, I would rather not waste $1,000's of dollars a year in fees when I don't need the money now anyway. That is pointless and waste.

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AaronM

WTF is that supposed to mean?

Look idiot, my expenses are taken out of what my clients pay me plus I have a hefty markup so that I make a good profit. Likewise, the expenses that Mayor incurs for sending checks should come out of YOUR pocket and if he chooses to mark that cost up then you should eat it and either STFU or be polite and thank him for providing you the opportunity to make money with his program in the first place.

Don't try to debate this issue with me as you are clearly way the fuck out of your league.

Now piss off.