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  • Jace
    FBOP Class Of 2013
    • Jan 2004
    • 35562
    #1

    Mayors Money - $5 per check now?

    doesn't bother me really, just wierd is all....$5 is pretty hefty for a check fee, what exactly costs $5 for a check to be cut and mailed? do they use some outside service?

    We wanted to let you know of a change at MayorsMoney. Due to the accounting costs and inherent problems involved with cutting and delivering checks, we will now be charging a $5 fee for check payouts.
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    • wyldworx
      So Fucking Banned
      • Dec 2006
      • 5144
      #2
      gold plating, methinx!

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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089
          #3
          damn . . .

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            • thebigstorm
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2004
              • 164
              #4
              Much larger programs cutting way more checks than them, and don't charge.

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                • wyldblyss
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 5779
                  #5
                  Wow, bit steep in my opinion.

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                    • DjSap
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3869
                      #6
                      Sending out checks costs money, if they didn't charge a fee it would result in lower payouts.
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                        • who
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 19593
                          #7
                          Which retard thinks that the webmasters should pay to run the fucking sponsor's business?? That's fucking ridiculous. I would be much more fucking disturbed if they were my sponsor.

                          What's next, $10 fee to all affiliates for 'hosted gallery server rental' ?

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                            • Snake Doctor
                              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 13449
                              #8
                              Yeah that's pretty steep.

                              Paycom still charges $2 I think. Most PPS programs don't charge anything.
                              sig too big

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                                • dissipate
                                  The Dirty Frenchman
                                  • Nov 2005
                                  • 8904
                                  #9
                                  That fee seems a bit odd.

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                                    • Boobs
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 7875
                                      #10
                                      it must be the "handling" fee

                                      Join the fucking best in big tit sponsors!!!

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                                        • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 16502
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by who
                                          Which retard thinks that the webmasters should pay to run the fucking sponsor's business?? That's fucking ridiculous. I would be much more fucking disturbed if they were my sponsor.

                                          What's next, $10 fee to all affiliates for 'hosted gallery server rental' ?

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                                            • SleazyDream
                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 41470
                                              #12
                                              hummm, if they send 2 checks a week and have a low payout they can claw back $40 from small accounts....


                                              not a bad idea.......
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                                                • Babaganoosh
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                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                  • 15841
                                                  #13
                                                  Conversions are in the toilet. It's not like they'll be mailing as many checks as they used to anyway.
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                                                    • who
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                      • 19593
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                      hummm, if they send 2 checks a week and have a low payout they can claw back $40 from small accounts....


                                                      not a bad idea.......
                                                      No, that's what minimum payouts are for, sport.

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                                                        • JD
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                          • 22651
                                                          #15
                                                          total crap imho. it's a cost of doing business with affiliates... another one that chaps my ass is the 2-4 dollar epass fee when they've already got a check cutting fee. WTF I have to pay to get my money??? lame...

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                                                            • baddog
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 107089
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by DjSap
                                                              Sending out checks costs money, if they didn't charge a fee it would result in lower payouts.
                                                              How much is postage up there anyway?


                                                              So, how much does it cost to receive by wire?

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                                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                  • 40377
                                                                  #17
                                                                  i couldn't care less, since the wire fee is usually $20 anyway
                                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                    • RawAlex
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 9465
                                                                      #18
                                                                      As more and more programs feel the pinch of shorter rebills, higher content production costs, and significantly poorer conversions, they will look in every corner for ways to make money or save costs on the bottom line. The easiest way to do this is to pass expenses on to the affiliates.

                                                                      Realitically, a check in the mail costs about $1.00 (postage, envelope, check costs) upwards to $2.00 if you include the manpower required to get the checks in the envelope, etc. If your staff is really expensive or if you are trying to sink other costs into the check operations, it can cost you more.

                                                                      It is all about turning a cost center into a revenue neutral or even a minor profit center. Instead of losing maybe $1000 a week mailing checks (assume 500 checks at $2 each) you could instead turn a $1500 profit ($2500 in fees less the $1000 costs). On a weekly program, this could push an extra 80k a year to the bottom line.

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                                                                        • RevSand
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                          • 8151
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Seems a bit steep to get a check.. Enless they have some LOWER cost alternative way that they are trying to get people to go to instead. I have not looked if this is the case yet.. Does anyone know?


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                                                                            • wyldblyss
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 5779
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                                              As more and more programs feel the pinch of shorter rebills, higher content production costs, and significantly poorer conversions, they will look in every corner for ways to make money or save costs on the bottom line. The easiest way to do this is to pass expenses on to the affiliates.

                                                                              Realitically, a check in the mail costs about $1.00 (postage, envelope, check costs) upwards to $2.00 if you include the manpower required to get the checks in the envelope, etc. If your staff is really expensive or if you are trying to sink other costs into the check operations, it can cost you more.

                                                                              It is all about turning a cost center into a revenue neutral or even a minor profit center. Instead of losing maybe $1000 a week mailing checks (assume 500 checks at $2 each) you could instead turn a $1500 profit ($2500 in fees less the $1000 costs). On a weekly program, this could push an extra 80k a year to the bottom line.
                                                                              B.I.N.G.O. I believe we do have a winner!!!

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                                                                                • noooze
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jul 2005
                                                                                  • 92
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I just talked to a guy from my local bank - if i had to send out printed checks from them, it wouldt cost 5 $ pr check, unless i had a big volume...
                                                                                  Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain.

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                                                                                    • travelingmike
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                                      • 182
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      maybe the Mayor needs Beer money.....
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                                                                                        • phasic
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                                                          • 2104
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          They also offer epass for free.
                                                                                          Brief revisit. (mic drop)

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                                                                                            • who
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                              • 19593
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                                                              As more and more programs feel the pinch of shorter rebills, higher content production costs, and significantly poorer conversions, they will look in every corner for ways to make money or save costs on the bottom line. The easiest way to do this is to pass expenses on to the affiliates.

                                                                                              Realitically, a check in the mail costs about $1.00 (postage, envelope, check costs) upwards to $2.00 if you include the manpower required to get the checks in the envelope, etc. If your staff is really expensive or if you are trying to sink other costs into the check operations, it can cost you more.

                                                                                              It is all about turning a cost center into a revenue neutral or even a minor profit center. Instead of losing maybe $1000 a week mailing checks (assume 500 checks at $2 each) you could instead turn a $1500 profit ($2500 in fees less the $1000 costs). On a weekly program, this could push an extra 80k a year to the bottom line.
                                                                                              No, it's not a winner. Of course you've explained the reason why they would do it (and well), but it's not like that isn't obvious already.

                                                                                              The point about the whole thing is that it reveals so much about how Mayors Money treats their webmasters. Not only is it poor business practice, but it is absolutely laughable that they think it's acceptable to charge the webmasters for their own business expenses.

                                                                                              It is evidence of a sinking ship, poor business fundamentals, and if I was pushing them I would be immediately looking elsewhere.

                                                                                              In a 9-5 job would you accept if your boss deducted $5 from your wage every month for 'wage payment expenses'?

                                                                                              This is utterly unforgivable.

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                                                                                                • xxxice
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                  • 5042
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by phasic
                                                                                                  They also offer epass for free.
                                                                                                  $2 charge is free ?

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                                                                                                    • BitAudioVideo
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                                                      • 1246
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      it does cost $5+ to have an outside service print and ship checks.
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                                                                                                        • RawAlex
                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                          • 9465
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by BitAudioVideo
                                                                                                          it does cost $5+ to have an outside service print and ship checks.
                                                                                                          yes, but that is a cost of doing business, not an affiliate cost. Passing on every expense to the affiliate is a really big no-no.

                                                                                                          Next fees will be the "content shooting fee" and "image color correction fee" and the "video encoding fee"...

                                                                                                          pretty soon we will all send joins just for the fun of it.

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                                                                                                            • Mayor
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                              • 497
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              You guys are pretty funny

                                                                                                              Fact is, checks are retarded. I don't pay employees by check nor my bills nor anything at all for that matter.

                                                                                                              Checks are an archaic throw back from last century. I am attempting to make it less appealing to get a check and more appealing to get your money instantly with Epassporte. Hell I am even paying for your new Epassporte account and I will set it up for you. If you don't like getting your money instantly then you may CHOOSE to pay $5 and get a check.

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                                                                                                                • Mayor
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                  • 497
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                  How much is postage up there anyway?


                                                                                                                  So, how much does it cost to receive by wire?
                                                                                                                  Up here? Where are you? The Keys We're in South Florida man!

                                                                                                                  Wire fees are the same as they always have been. Domestic wire 30 Int 40.
                                                                                                                  Epassporte FREE (and we'll set up your account for FREE)
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                                                                                                                    • who
                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                      • 19593
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mayor
                                                                                                                      Fact is, checks are retarded.
                                                                                                                      Checks are an archaic throw back from last century.
                                                                                                                      This has convinced me I'll never promote Mayors Money. Sorry, but dude, you seem to be a complete idiot.

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                                                                                                                        • xxxice
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                          • 5042
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Correct me if I am wrong. To get money by epass is a $2 charge for them to send it. To withdraw it is another $2. So to get paid by epass is $4 and check is $5 so a $1 diff to get checks?

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                                                                                                                            • SomeCreep
                                                                                                                              :glugglug
                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                              • 26118
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Wow, charging $5 to cut a check? That's ridiculously high. Meatcash charges like $2.95 to cut a check and I thought that was bad. Well, if sponsors are going to start charging us affiliates this much to cut a check, they might as well start charging us for the bandwidth we burn using their free hosted galleries. Or maybe charge us a licensing fee for the free content we use to promote their sites.

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                                                                                                                                • bareskin
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                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                  • 619
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Fuck them thats shits for the birds I'll never use anyone charging for checks. does the lazy ass bitch payroll clerk need a fucking raise or something
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                                                                                                                                    • Mayor
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 497
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by who
                                                                                                                                      This has convinced me I'll never promote Mayors Money. Sorry, but dude, you seem to be a complete idiot.
                                                                                                                                      Not to worry man, I am sure your application would have been rejected anyway.

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                                                                                                                                        • FreeHugeMovies
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 14141
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Very weak

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                                                                                                                                            • baddog
                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 107089
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mayor
                                                                                                                                              You guys are pretty funny

                                                                                                                                              Fact is, checks are retarded. I don't pay employees by check nor my bills nor anything at all for that matter.

                                                                                                                                              Checks are an archaic throw back from last century. I am attempting to make it less appealing to get a check and more appealing to get your money instantly with Epassporte. Hell I am even paying for your new Epassporte account and I will set it up for you. If you don't like getting your money instantly then you may CHOOSE to pay $5 and get a check.
                                                                                                                                              pfft . . . epassporte is of very little value to a US resident.

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                                                                                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 107089
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mayor
                                                                                                                                                  Up here? Where are you? The Keys We're in South Florida man!
                                                                                                                                                  I believe the question was directed to the Canadian that I quoted.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 16502
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mayor
                                                                                                                                                      You guys are pretty funny

                                                                                                                                                      Fact is, checks are retarded. I don't pay employees by check nor my bills nor anything at all for that matter.

                                                                                                                                                      Checks are an archaic throw back from last century. I am attempting to make it less appealing to get a check and more appealing to get your money instantly with Epassporte. Hell I am even paying for your new Epassporte account and I will set it up for you. If you don't like getting your money instantly then you may CHOOSE to pay $5 and get a check.
                                                                                                                                                      some people prefer checks over epass payments, easier to keep track of money made when you're not relying on an online service for balances

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                                                                                                                                                        • bareskin
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                                          • 619
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Mayor
                                                                                                                                                          You guys are pretty funny

                                                                                                                                                          Fact is, checks are retarded. I don't pay employees by check nor my bills nor anything at all for that matter.

                                                                                                                                                          Checks are an archaic throw back from last century. I am attempting to make it less appealing to get a check and more appealing to get your money instantly with Epassporte. Hell I am even paying for your new Epassporte account and I will set it up for you. If you don't like getting your money instantly then you may CHOOSE to pay $5 and get a check.
                                                                                                                                                          your a fucking idiot and hope you lose affiliates because of this
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                                                                                                                                                            • Mayor
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 497
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by vanderweb
                                                                                                                                                              Correct me if I am wrong. To get money by epass is a $2 charge for them to send it. To withdraw it is another $2. So to get paid by epass is $4 and check is $5 so a $1 diff to get checks?
                                                                                                                                                              Tie your epass to your bank account and save the fees. Most people I pay would have to pull cash out every day if they were trying to hit the ATM lol.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Wizzo
                                                                                                                                                                  2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2000
                                                                                                                                                                  • 15224
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by who
                                                                                                                                                                  This has convinced me I'll never promote Mayors Money. Sorry, but dude, you seem to be a complete idiot.
                                                                                                                                                                  Damn I'm sure we will go under for sure without your 5 hits a day...
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                                                                                                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mayor
                                                                                                                                                                      Not to worry man, I am sure your application would have been rejected anyway.

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                                                                                                                                                                      That has to be the dumbest comment you have ever made. Seriously.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • who
                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 19593
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                                                                                                                                          Damn I'm sure we will go under for sure without your 5 hits a day...
                                                                                                                                                                          Oh this is great. Mayors Money sure are a class act.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • thonglife
                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 1566
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Mayor's Money fucking blows cock.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 107089
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by who
                                                                                                                                                                                  Oh this is great. Mayors Money sure are a class act.
                                                                                                                                                                                  They would rather have 1:3000 TGP traffic than 1:20 SE traffic. Simple enough.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 16502
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                                                                                                                                                      Damn I'm sure we will go under for sure without your 5 hits a day...
                                                                                                                                                                                      wow... i hope ramos can clean things up for you guys, thats not cool...

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Mayor
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 497
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          I find it very convient on Fridays that when I hit "pay" 1000's of people have the money that second regardless of where they live. To me, that's of GREAT value. But like I said, it's a choice, no one is forcing anyone.

                                                                                                                                                                                          If an affiliate makes a deal and he's not some GFY moron with 8 clicks, I'll go add a 100 bucks to his account and cover his next 2 years of check fees

                                                                                                                                                                                          For those that obviously don't know us, we actually have a great relationship with all our affiliates. We host many of them on dedicated servers shoot content for them, hang out etc. . . A couple morons from GFY with no relationship with us or our affiliates won't change that LOL

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jace
                                                                                                                                                                                              FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 35562
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              wowzer, this thread took a dive fast

                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't get ANYTHING but checks because my accountant says so...period

                                                                                                                                                                                              checks mean a paper trail...a paper trail means solid accounting on my part..if the irs ever comes I just pull out my big envelope from that year and hand it over

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Mayor's business, Mayor's rules. I doubt he'd have been around this long if he weren't doing quite a few things right.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dirty Dane
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sick Fuck
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 9491
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      just raise the min. payout

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