Webby

Idiot Lazonby posts the same bot claims about everyone when he has nothing else to say - he tried that on me, tho, never ever chatted with Franck or give a fuck Other bot expression is "How naive" and other attemted intelligent expressions. There is never anything actually valid to say - just shit.

Sheesh, this thread started on a reasonable article/point - now the retards crawl out of the woodwork with stupid one-liners. Why is that? Because there is a personal interest in the well-being or Iran or Israel?? IDIOTS!

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Yeah, nuke the bastards, take North Korea out while your at it.
In fact better ask Blair to get rid of Israel at the same time, because they're just too damn scary for me.
Muslims? Jews?
Better be safe to wipe them off the existence page because they're dodgy.

Anyone else, while we're in self-defence mode?

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lazonby is boyalley?

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Daruma

some scary shit.. from all sides


now for the joking part... makes this pail by comparison

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SmokeyTheBear

I shouldnt even respond to such a foolish rant but i will because i cant help myself

First off "iran" isn't one person.. just as GWB doesnt represent what most americans want/believe, so if you truly believe everything you hear about iran is what all iranians think, then you will never be convinced..



Untied staes doesnt have the best track record for "protecting itself" ( by protect im assuming you mean attacking countries that havent attacked us .. afghanistan / iraq/ vietnam )

cant stress enough the old eye for an eye analogy here.. if what you say is "truly" what you believe the ONLY answer for you is to commit genocide.. if you truly believe muslims are inherently evil or that all iranians are inherently evil , then the only answer is to kill all of them.. popping off a few nukes will just thin out the population and make them hate you/us more

If by traitor you mean i dont like murdering innocent children , yes.. that me..

or did you just mean your argument has no merits thus i must be a traitor ?

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eu contraire mo'fraire.

Islam's a religion of peace.

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Splum

And you dont think they would kill your children in a heartbeat? And by they I mean your average extremist Muslim who was born and raised to hate the West.

So like you are some fucking Jesus or something right Smokey? "Let them kill us, its ok because an eye for an eye is wrong and violence begats violence bullshit etc"

Do you even know what happened in 1979? Or is that your birth year?

directfiesta

I even got you a military one, just for you ...

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KingK7

Nukes are bad, mmmkay?

SmokeyTheBear

no more than your average extremist jew or christian would kill muslim children ?

i'm not sure what your asking .. its self explanatory .. what does an eye for an eye do ?

If theres a method that doesnt leave us all blind i'd like to try that first.
this isn't 1979 or doo doo caca poo poo head ..

seriously grow up . quit with the lame misguided jabs.. not sure why some people don't realise their argument is lost if they have to insult people to get their point across. especially when their insults are way off base.. i was getting laid in 1979 for the curious.. but i must warn you if you do the math and come up with a number i may have to kill you.

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Splum

Jewish and Christian children are not TAUGHT in school how to hate Muslims. Thats the fucking difference.

We dont have to go blind, we can strike their eyes before they even open them. Leave it up to people like you we would wait until they have the power to poke our eyes out. They dont have that power yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
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Webby

You know nothing about "average extremist Muslims" or fuck all else. You do nothing but assume while you live inside your bubble in the US and make further assumptions about others being "protected" by the US.

The US can't protect/care for it's own people - get fucking real and act like you are over four years of age.

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Splum

You know nothing about the United States. You dont even live here dont presume with your third world education that you know what the fuck you are talking about. The USA cant protect itself omfg you crack me up lol. Your country doesnt even have a fucking Army dipshit lol.

DaddyHalbucks

Let's just get it done and be done with it.

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Webby

Ermmm.. Who taught you to hate - other than the State of Israel and good ol' USA??

All you ever advocate is some bullshit about Israel or the Jewish community - and rarely, if ever, does it have any rational thought or balance. What is the point??? If you wish to be an advocate for something - at least get your act together first - chances are you will get more respect then.

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Webby

Sheesh! There you go again with LOADS of assumptions

Facts of life idiot - I never had any "third world education". I not only lived in the US for a period, but in numerous other countries.

Part of the difference is that I sure do have far more of a clue about both countries and people than you sure as hell have (tho still open to learning plenty more). It is *very* obvious you know very little about this planet - else you would not be so stupid. (Are you even aware of the state next to where you live?? Duh?)

But.. you are correct in one sentence, - where we operate does not have an army. That is a massive achievement - but you'd never understand

It is clearly obvious the US can't protect itself or care for it's people - 9/11? New Orleans? Iraq? All failures.

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SmokeyTheBear

umm i'm not sure what to say .. where do you get your information from .. mulims go to the same place in christian/jewish schools as jews/christians go to in muslim schools.

* hint its not up..


please tell me all this time you dont understad the analogy of eye for an eye..

it doesnt matter who pokes who's eye out first , the whole point of the analogy is that if you poke someone's eye out they would inherently have the right to now poke your eye out.. some innocent baby hasnt done anything , if his fathers eye got poked out because he was being a retard doesnt mean he should grow up and poke the kid of the guy who poked his dads eye out .. or else everyone would then have the right to poke one anothers eyes out.. leading to ....

us all being _____



lol wtf does the iran hostage crisis have anything to do with israel launching nukes at iran , i understand the correlation your trying to make but its so misguided. I think you have a chip on your shoulder.. the iran hostage crisis PALES in comparison to recent actions.. it was highly political , got lots of coverage.. pales in comparison to recent events like israel's recent terror campaigns against lebanon.. although i suppose if your of the opinion that a few famous people are more important than thousands of women and children.. then yes i umm see your point.. still wrong but i see it at least ..

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Splum

I dont love Israel or the Jews, Ive never been there. I dont HATE them and certainly no school in America teaches hate against arabs. But look at what they learn: http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=z7K4E4Pec40

Webby

Mmm.. I'll add to that - Your igornance is also showing over "third world education" - reality is that "third world education" can often be better than anything you even have. There sure are more kids coming out of universities here (pro rata) than where you live - and they sure have more sense than you.

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Splum

They cant if they are DEAD.

It the point that Iran was taken over by a religious leader, became a religious Theocracy, and became the point that Iran started sponsoring terrorism. The United States happens to be fighting a global war on terrorism as we speak I would consider 1979 the exact point that islamic facists decided to fight against the west.

Rochard

Really? Hasn't the President Mahmud Ahmadinejad stated in a very public way that Iran will not rest until Israel is destroyed? What exactly did he say again....

....the "occupying regime" had to be removed, and referred to it as a "disgraceful stain [on] the Islamic world" that must be "wiped off the map"....

Nah, Iran never threatened Israel....... Not at all. They don't want them dead, they only want hem "wiped off the map".

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SmokeyTheBear

i wonder what we are doing in iraq ? "loving" them ?


lets cut the bullshit.. if you asked your average say 4th grade kid in america " are muslims bad ?" they would prob say yes .. agree or disagree ??

If you asked the same to iranians about jews or christians , i bet you would get pretty similar answers... agree or disagree ?? ( before you look at the polls )

do you have kids ? what do you tell them when they ask or if they ask why we are killing people in iraq . ? if the same people we are killing are the same people cheering saddam is dead doesn't that mean we killed alot of innocent people ? if iran took some people hostage many years ago and most of them got out ok does that mean we should kill thousands of innocent iranians now ?

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SmokeyTheBear

alot of comments like that get wishwashed together.. i was responding specifically to nuclear threats.. iran has made none , and what you quoted does not contain any nuclear threat.. infact what you quoted is exactly the misinterpretation that is the problem.. he didnt say israel he said the occupying regime. much like the usa says all the time about korea and iran... how do you see any difference in the usa saying it needs to wipe out "occupying regimes"

but im not going to fall into the same trap you are . the president doesnt speak for all iranians any more than gwb speaks for all americans when he tells the evil doers to "bring it on" and lies repeatedly about iraq..

Im not so foolish as to believe the president of iran has all good intentions.. but his actual wording is no different than what other presidents who dont speak for the people they represent say all the time.. but im also not so naive as to think if i was fed bush's worst lines he wouldn't sound like a crazy racist lunatic himself

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Splum

95% of the "innocents" are being killed by their own people in Iraq thanks to Iranians, Syrians, Palestinians, Sunni and Shiite extremists. I did not imply to take out Iran because of the hostage crisis, I dont want to destroy Iran at all I just dont want them to have nuclear weapons. The fact that you even compare us to them speaks volumes about your inner hatred, ignorance or just plain stupidity.

directfiesta

... at least, the Israelis have an EXIT plan ...:

Israelis Gobbling Up Moon Property

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Splum

The difference is Bush is accountable to Congress and the American people, Ahamdinejad is only accountable to Khamenei, Ahamdinejad doesnt even speak for his people he speaks for his religious rulers. You just dont get the complexity of the issues before us.

SmokeyTheBear

then we agree ..


but this thread doesnt have anythng to do with that it has to do with ISRAEL launching THREE nukes at someoene who doesnt have any..

I dont want anyone to have nukes.. i think anyone that has them should turf them
lol explain how that works again.. i think ALL humans are equal and that somehow makes me hatefull..

you think you are better than other people and that makes you ? umm peacefulll ?? loving ??

seriously reread what you just wrote .. thats such insane logic..

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Words and more words - Come one, Israel, esp. Golda Meir have verbally been attacking the Arabs and Palestine for years

A nice one from Mr Untouchable, Ariel Sharon
Words can make wars, sure, but that's what the diplomats are for, no?

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I support anyone who turns iran into glass. it will teach the rest of the muslim world that their religious book is bulshit and following it will get them killed.

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launching 3 nukes is going to make it less complex somehow ??

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SmokeyTheBear

right on... then we turn israel into a mudpuddle and it will teach the rest of the jewish world that their religious book is bullshit and will get them killed..





NOT...

doesnt sound so nice reversed

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Splum

It isnt an indescriminate attack Smokey its a TACTICAL strike to knock out their military gaurded nuclear capabilities. Dont act like this is some fucking random bomb dropping. The people that would be killed in this attack would be of government or military origin and would know full well the dangers of working at such facilities.

stev0

Iran hasn't done anything... why should the US, Israel, and a number of other countires be able to have and use nuclear weapons while telling other countries that they can not? Makes no sense...

stev0

Hard to tell if you're joking sometimes, or if you actually believe half the crap that you type.

Splum

SmokeyTheBear

i hope its lot more tactical than lebanon and the thousands of children and women who were killed over a couple soldiers..

dont act like this is a mystery .. why should israel have nukes and iran not ?

iran has never threatned to use nuclear attacks on anyone.. and hasnt invaded anyone .

israel has several times stated it would.. and is obviously in the process of planning to use them and has recently invaded other countries..

sounds like iran has a better track record..

I'm all for israel dumping its own nukes then sending in a ground force. to dtermine iran's nuclear capabilities... by force if it has to be.. as i think any country should be.. there should be a "real" u.n. force that destroys EVERY countries nukes.. then its not an issue who gets to have them.. nobody..

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Webby

OK.. I'm going to try and be serious for a moment

If anyone "hates" Arabs or the Muslim community it is:

(a) Israel - Simplied version is that there is a reason to convey "hatred" on the part of the Israel govt. (Tho.. dunno, but doubt that is a common view among the Israeli people). Israel seriously needs to put up a face of righteousness to cover the decades-long atrocities committed on others.

(b) The USA - Where the government teaches the population who to hate next - it could be the French one week, "Muslims" the next blah - whatever reason is in the best interests of the US that week. This is also aided by the many Israeli orgs in the US who have no more interest other than selfish reasons and to see the prolonged US support for the State of Israel. Why a US taxpayer tolerates this shit is unbelievable.


On your link - which presumably was designed to show how "Palestinian's are terrorists and hate the Jewish people" -

Why do you reply with a cut and paste segment of a youtube video which is not only loaded with propaganda, but clearly produced for propaganda purposes - complete with high-drama music track and the serious, but dramatic voice-over, to help add some credibility??

Extract of voice-over:
For three paragraphs of script - there is not one fact. But instead, a loaded dialog purveying fear and attempting to convey how "evil" others are - and even naming the "enemy", that "Palestinan terrorist"

Watching that stuff is sickening - anyone who felt the heat of a terrorist blast, knows it's crap. (And yes, I have felt the blast of a terrorist bomb, but don't go around hating the bombers - they have a reason underneath and don't bomb for a hobby).

This is fairly disgusting material where no respectable media folks would wish to be associated. (The issue is not about terrorism or blame - that exists all over, but more the method of propaganda - it's fucking evil). This is yet another load of garbage produced by those with a Israeli biase and not unlike the 1000's of websites spewed out by the Israel govt (or representatives) in an attempt to convince the world Israel is a land of peace, high achievers and any other junk that will caste a good light. Typical organizations are memri.org, the claimed "Middle East Media Research Institute".

No broadcasting service on the planet would use this material - other than Israeli media (tho even that is doubtful). It is too way-out and designed to be inflamitory and is highly biased to warrant transmission.

And.. before you whine and moan, - I also spent three years editing content and learning the difference between responsible media production and fantasy. Simplied guide - if an alleged "documentary" title contains words like "hate" and "death" - chances are it is spewage - examples, "Goebbels - Doctor of Death" (produce during WW2 by a propaganda unit) and your "Seeds of Hatred" (produced by hell knows, but we can guess).

Try and get some balance in your viewing/reading material - hate to say it, but it's true - living in the US does not necessarily offer any balance of reality. The media overall is fucked and living off viagra ads with little or no indepth discussion on any topic - unless it's the "top ten movies of the week" or Lou Dobbs self-interest in the "midde class" dilemma and clueless about much else. And... don't rely on stupid internet websites to form your opinions - even worse - don't cut and paste from them

Splum... given the chance - visit Israel and Palestine - you will learn a lot and you will prob be shocked by some stuff. They are both interesting countries with many intelligent people

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Pleasurepays

i have heard more intelligent remarks from retarded kids at the zoo trying to understand whats going on when watching monkey's fuck.

SmokeyTheBear

you keep posting articles that go against what your saying.. israel is not part of the npt

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directfiesta

The US just made a deal on nuclear with one of the non-signing countries .. True that it is now under control of a military dictatorship, but eventually, they will be overturned and those nuclear material willbe in the hands of the so-called terrorists ...

Israel also is not part of that treaty ....

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SmokeyTheBear

instead of telling us about your adventures with retarted children watching monkeys fuck why dont you try to answer his question..

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12clicks

outside of fantasy land we understand that Israel is not looking for the destruction of muslims.

oh, and the fact that it doesn't sound so nice reversed is EXACTY why you do it. If you don't do it, they will.

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Big_Red

Good point. But as you said "who decides?" .....I sure would not want to. Sad state of affairs all around if you ask me. Interesting to see how this all pans out.

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12clicks

shouldn't you be making your next beer drinking avatar?

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12clicks

hahaha, dude, if you hate your government and hate jews, just come out and say it. I'd give you more respect for it than having to half truth and lie your way around the topic.

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SmokeyTheBear

could have fooled me...

Honestly answer this question.. if you asked all muslim countries ( the ones you would be teaching a lesson that their "book" is "wrong" by nuking iran )

if they wanted the destruction of all jews

and vice versa asked all jews in jewish countries if they wanted the destruction of all muslims..

now tell me the percentages of people for both sides you figure would answer yes . ?

i imagine you will duck this one but its a shot

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SmokeyTheBear

hey dont get me wrong i respect the fact you wear your balls on your chin , my balls are on my chin they just dont draw as much attention when your peacefull..

as expected as soon as i make a valid point im suddenly an anti-semite..

Sorry wrong guess/jab. lots of jewish friends and family history.. i couldnt be a nazi i would be on the camp side along with the jews

i dont hate my government.. i do however hate the current us government , dont make no bones about that , you never sked , this thread is about israel ( im not a citizen of israel ) and its potential attack on iran with nukes..

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p.s. your answer should look like this

muslim population = XX%
jewish poulation = XX%

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