How did TwistedByDesigns not get into the xbiz finalists list?!?!? - GoFuckYourself.com

StuartD · 12-12-2006, 11:27 AM

I'm seriously confused... I know people nominated Kelly from TBD... and yet he's not there.

What's the deal?

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18553

FreeHugeMovies · 12-12-2006, 11:38 AM

Some of those are comical.

Stephen · 12-12-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

I'm seriously confused... I know people nominated Kelly from TBD... and yet he's not there.

What's the deal?

We had tens of thousands of nominations.

Think "top list" -- the more unique votes, the higher up the list -- make the top half dozen or so and you become a finalist. Kelly may have had nominations, but not more of them than those who became finalists.

It's as simple as that.

5pm · 12-12-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Some of those are comical.

Yeap

Haven't heard of some of those in years.

Sosa · 12-12-2006, 12:40 PM

kelly rocks and more people don't need to know about twistedbydesigns

so when I need another site he can jump on it

pocketkangaroo · 12-12-2006, 12:41 PM

He built a site for squishypimp which is an automatic disqualification.

FreeHugeMovies · 12-12-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

He built a site for squishypimp which is an automatic disqualification.

LOL very true

candyflip · 12-12-2006, 12:46 PM

He's probably not a paying sponsor.

Pete-KT · 12-12-2006, 12:47 PM

Becuase Kelly didnt have proxies out there voting for him

fris · 12-12-2006, 12:55 PM

kelly rocks, done way too many designs for me

Stephen · 12-12-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

He's probably not a paying sponsor.

neither are many of the finalists

unlike some "contests" we don't sell our awards or limit them to advertisers

when you see some advertisers listed, it's only natural: the top companies advertise in the top media

machinegunkelly · 12-12-2006, 01:12 PM

Better luck next year :D

fallenmuffin · 12-12-2006, 01:16 PM

Thought XBiz was a scam, only picking people who pay them off.

Brujah · 12-12-2006, 02:25 PM

They can't even block cheating obviously, which is unfortunate as it hurts the integrity of the awards in the first place and will cast doubt on those who may actually win.

Roald · 12-12-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

They can't even block cheating obviously, which is unfortunate as it hurts the integrity of the awards in the first place and will cast doubt on those who may actually win.

Allthough we made it into the finals I have to agree somehow, I mean I noticed some sites putting up a vote for us on surfer pages. Now I don't think thats what this is about or am I wrong?

K R I S T E N · 12-13-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

They can't even block cheating obviously, which is unfortunate as it hurts the integrity of the awards in the first place and will cast doubt on those who may actually win.

Here is a PERFECT opportunity for you to tell us how you would like to see the nominations done -- what are your thoughts? What makes the most sense to you? Obviously we cant pick them in house, so we open them to the community, and even then you folks criticize. PLEASE, I BEG you, how do you think we should do it?

CaptainHowdy · 12-13-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

He built a site for squishypimp which is an automatic disqualification.

!!

Brujah · 12-13-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by XBizKristen

Here is a PERFECT opportunity for you to tell us how you would like to see the nominations done -- what are your thoughts? What makes the most sense to you? Obviously we cant pick them in house, so we open them to the community, and even then you folks criticize. PLEASE, I BEG you, how do you think we should do it?

The voting process is obviously lacking. The way it's done now requires active marketing and promotion efforts which nominates the most resourceful voters. Whoever can proxy enough votes, as anyone can see by the nominees chosen.

I've noticed you have nominees choosing to withdraw as a result of this farce. Maybe you can find a way to qualify voters by making them register somewhere prior and be recognized first. Make them be registered, with a URL and a name? Not just a nick and a unique ip #.

I'm glad you're looking for ways to improve the procedure, and maybe next years won't be so manipulated.

madawgz · 12-13-2006, 09:46 PM

i voted for TwistedByDesigns

fris · 12-13-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by XBizKristen

Here is a PERFECT opportunity for you to tell us how you would like to see the nominations done -- what are your thoughts? What makes the most sense to you? Obviously we cant pick them in house, so we open them to the community, and even then you folks criticize. PLEASE, I BEG you, how do you think we should do it?

i could easily load a proxy list of 100,000 proxies, and have it visit the url automatically.

Jace · 12-13-2006, 11:06 PM

woah

wait up a minute

are you seriously telling me the nomination process was COMPLETELY about clicking that link we saw everyone posting? and the people that got enough clicks got into the finalists?

5pm · 12-13-2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

woah

wait up a minute

are you seriously telling me the nomination process was COMPLETELY about clicking that link we saw everyone posting? and the people that got enough clicks got into the finalists?

Congrats to the wieners

Jace · 12-14-2006, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

woah

wait up a minute

are you seriously telling me the nomination process was COMPLETELY about clicking that link we saw everyone posting? and the people that got enough clicks got into the finalists?

I would love for someone to answer this

harvey · 12-14-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by XBizKristen

Here is a PERFECT opportunity for you to tell us how you would like to see the nominations done -- what are your thoughts? What makes the most sense to you? Obviously we cant pick them in house, so we open them to the community, and even then you folks criticize. PLEASE, I BEG you, how do you think we should do it?

well, it's not like we're talking big science here. Just make registered users with email addresses located at adult domains vote only once and that's it, see how easy?

your method implies that eventually 10 sites nobody heard of before could get a proxy list and vote for themselves, letting out people not doing that. I mean, I cannot imagine Mark Wylde or Bruno Dickman needing to do this. Even myself, I just clicked once and post a link for my nomination which I know a few people clicked, and that's it, no sweating about that.

Honestly, I see several categories where the proxy thingy happened for sure, no questions about that, including design category. Guess you have enough knowledge to determine which are the fakers and who the real ones, but the process itself as of today, is simply ridiculous.

As for the thread subject, I tried to see the site in question and there's just a splash page with a link to flicker. So, the same people is complaining about is what should be done? (ie people voting for a non existing site, which leads to the same questionable voting process)

anyway Kirsten, there you go

Brujah · 12-15-2006, 12:15 PM

I hope Kristen gets a chance to come back and read the suggestions.

notabook · 12-15-2006, 01:35 PM

This is the same reason that good sites like nnvote ultimately suck and fail (in what the intention of the site was for), as it is just far too easy to cheat. Add a simple verification system to the voting process and you kill 80% of the cheaters nearly instantly. (you would still have those who could proxy-vote manually, but the time consumption would turn off the vast majority).

LadyMischief · 12-15-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sosa

kelly rocks and more people don't need to know about twistedbydesigns

so when I need another site he can jump on it

I'll indian leg wrestle you for him! :P

StuartD · 12-15-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey

As for the thread subject, I tried to see the site in question and there's just a splash page with a link to flicker.

You obviously got it wrong.

madawgz · 12-15-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fris

i could easily load a proxy list of 100,000 proxies, and have it visit the url automatically.

yeah thats what i was thinking before...i found it strange the way it was setup ...

biftek · 12-15-2006, 02:13 PM

meh all of these "best of awards" are just a load of crap , biased results , popularity contests , ass kissers unite

i mean in order for someone to win a catergory , the voting parties would need to be members or atleast tried the other services in the nomination to clearly point out that X company is the best for that catergory

MetaMan · 12-15-2006, 02:17 PM

wtf how did IAlien not make it?

12-12-2006, 11:27 AM	#1
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	How did TwistedByDesigns not get into the xbiz finalists list?!?!? I'm seriously confused... I know people nominated Kelly from TBD... and yet he's not there. What's the deal? http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18553 __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

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machinegunkelly Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,285	Better luck next year :D __________________ dead.

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Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	They can't even block cheating obviously, which is unfortunate as it hurts the integrity of the awards in the first place and will cast doubt on those who may actually win. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

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FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	Some of those are comical.

12-12-2006, 12:40 PM	#5
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	kelly rocks and more people don't need to know about twistedbydesigns so when I need another site he can jump on it

12-12-2006, 12:41 PM	#6
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	He built a site for squishypimp which is an automatic disqualification.

12-12-2006, 12:47 PM	#9
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	Becuase Kelly didnt have proxies out there voting for him

12-12-2006, 01:16 PM	#13
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Thought XBiz was a scam, only picking people who pay them off.

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madawgz 8.8.8.8 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noordermarkt Posts: 30,509	i voted for TwistedByDesigns __________________ TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

12-13-2006, 11:06 PM	#21
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	woah wait up a minute are you seriously telling me the nomination process was COMPLETELY about clicking that link we saw everyone posting? and the people that got enough clicks got into the finalists?

12-15-2006, 12:15 PM	#25
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	I hope Kristen gets a chance to come back and read the suggestions. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

12-15-2006, 01:35 PM	#26
notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	This is the same reason that good sites like nnvote ultimately suck and fail (in what the intention of the site was for), as it is just far too easy to cheat. Add a simple verification system to the voting process and you kill 80% of the cheaters nearly instantly. (you would still have those who could proxy-vote manually, but the time consumption would turn off the vast majority). __________________

12-15-2006, 02:13 PM	#30
biftek So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,030	meh all of these "best of awards" are just a load of crap , biased results , popularity contests , ass kissers unite i mean in order for someone to win a catergory , the voting parties would need to be members or atleast tried the other services in the nomination to clearly point out that X company is the best for that catergory

12-15-2006, 02:17 PM	#31
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	wtf how did IAlien not make it?