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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
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![]() 'Cause I'm getting a SHITLOAD of spam, with Internet Eraser on the exits. Wouldn't like these fuckers to end up winning a free car or something.
Already reported to the host, and a few of those spam organisations, but I'm not sure whether this applies to spammers with programs on their exits... |
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cars always go to the owners of other affiliate companies as we have seen countless times before
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why do you even care about spam mail
why even waste your time to do something about it just hit delete no big deal ![]() |
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Let me clarify for people like "nocostporn".... I am talking about MY personal emailbox. ( I do have my own identity). When I get spam to MY mailbox, I just hit delete also. Last time I checked "I agree" DOES NOT mean Scorescash. |
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how can you say you agree and then expect people to think you run a reputable program? does that mean when i send a spam complaint to you,you just delete it? ah ok then *marks another crooked one down in the books* ![]()
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I'll be just that little bit happier if I can spend 10 minutes and nuke a spammer's account. Whoever it is, they're promoting their own site with ARS and Eraser Cash on the exits, and hosted at LikeWhoa. I like to destroy things... ![]() |
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you are indeed stu-peed..lol...whining about shit doesnt make it stop..either delete it or block the sender..there ya go..NO MORE SPAM! |
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if people exerted the kind of energy they take in tracking down the evil spammers into running their own thing they might actually make a few dollars... see, here's what you do...let the spammers keep growing and growing and growing and suddenly there will be an oversaturation and people will stop clicking the little links in their emails and spam won't make any money and the spamming will slow down or maybe even stop....but as long as people keep clicking links and spammers keep sending 100-150 joins per day, it's not going to stop...... personally, I prefer to spend my time making my own fortune than worrying about how someone else makes theirs....
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Actually, I am talking about the kind of spam that I (meaning me ) nothing to do with work, ( I am my own person you know) get in MY mailbox. I just hit delete also. |
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1) what you do doesn't matter to me..you're a self proclaimed spammer 2)if you're a program that says "we do not tolerate spamming"(which scorecash does) then when I send a spam complaint i want it taken care of... not a rep to say "just delete it" the comment was directed at her,not anybody else FYI,every spammer doesn't send 100 joins a day so knock that shit off... I just hate the little spammers ![]()
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You simply misunderstood me! I said " I agree" meaning when I get Spam to MY PERSONAL mailbox, I just hit delete. Not once did I mention anything about a Spam complaint. Scorescash DOES NOT tolerate spam. We DO NOT delete the complaints, we take them VERY seriously. But, when I get Spammed to my account say from "company ABC" , I just hit delete. NOT once did I say anything about deleting complaints to Scorescash, or that I agree with Spamming. I forgot who I am dealing with.....everything gets blown out of the water here. |
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Don't be naive - there are large spamming operations that participate with most large affiliate programs. It's all about how much green you can generate and how good you can be at the spamming. Me personally? I don't do it and I won't allow it either.
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![]() Maybe we should all take a little time to <a href="http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51054">ruin and icq spammer's day?</a> ![]() |
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Big affiliate programs love spammers, they send them 1,000's of signups & then kill their account, keeping all the money to themselves. Then send you a lovely letter thanking you for turning the spammer in.
![]() Get the fuck over it, criminalize it & it will move to another country where its not illegal. It will never stop, spend the time you spend erasing it & reporting them, figuring out a way to stop it from getting in your box.
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Yes, cause "Just Hit Delete" will sure stop the flood of spam. Did ya know that AT&T reported this year that an estimated 33% of their network traffic is spam related? Do you think the spammers paid for that bandwidth? They sure as FUCK did not. You and I did, through our ISPs. It costs us money to recieve this shit. Everyone that says "just hit delete" is making the problem worse. ISPs DO nuke spammers, and they will only do so if they get complaints about it. Spammers are thieves, and will continue to steal from us until they are stopped by legislation (which is in the US Congress right now, and hopefully won't suck ass). Spam is growing every month. At the rate it is going it will take the email system out entirely if it's left unchecked. Then who will be saying just hit delete when they can't get any emails because their servers are all too congested to send or recieve mail. Death to all spammers, Backov
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Amen
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Spammers should be punished, right here, right now.
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Kill'em all
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Can you tell I'm frustrated?
God, on some days I get over 300 spam mails... It totally freaks me out... I keep on changing my emails over and over again... |
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Btw, this is NOT spam
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after a while you wind up blocking most of the internet, which eventually will break emails you WANT to get. i for one would report spam as i get it but i used to get so fucking much i couldn't report it fast enough. now i installed a spam filter and get almost none. "just hit delete" is bullshit. "block the sender" is bullshit. how would you block the sender? based on subject line text which always changes? how about block the from: address? Return-path: ? ip address of mail server? good luck. i tried for months. this is the only thing that has worked. i keep all my spam though because i will deal with it sometime soon... if they want to waste my time and resources i'll do the same for them.
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33% of e-mail & 33% of phone calls are spam related
It has yet to take out the phone system, i doubt it will take out the e-mail system. I have yet to receive one spam e-mail this month. With the exception of Monter.com sending me their stupid ass tips & tricks to landing a 250k a year job. I do not support e-mail spam, i am simply stating that if legislation passes in the U.S. it will mean jack shit because spammers will move their operation outside the U.S. And backov, thanks for calling me a "head-in-sand-fucker", you clearly have a personal problem with spam & hey i understand your issue's. Im just a realist...& i realize you can't stop them, so find a way to deal with it or have a heart attack being pissed off about it. |
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33% of phone calsl are spam? doubt that and I also doubt people will be moving "operations" out of the U.S. ... seeing that the larger percentage of spammers are small time and most likely underage... you can't really stop it but it needs to slow down... how do you feel as a legit webmaster that people are just stealing your signups?...even if its 1 signup,multiply that by 1000 spammers..thats taking A LOT away from people who are doing it the right way,working hard....
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not to mention it's putting a bad name on the adult industry as a whole when that lil kid gets a "come fuck me in the ass" email...
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why would they?
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Pete is right again,
hit delete and move onto making cash & QUIT CHER BITCHEN' ;-) I'd rather spend my time jerking off and making cash then whining to hosts & shit.... I agree it's annoying but so are tampax fucking commercials during LUNCH TIME!!!!!!!!!!! but I don't feel like bitching to NBC on a regular basis, so I just refuse to eat tomatoe paste based lunch foods....and viola, life is good again
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I agree with small spammers....and clueless list sellers....they muck it up for everyone...the big spammers? they make mroe in a day than I make in a month, so I guess they enjoy what they do and are good at it, but I'm not going to waste my life away worrying about it... Idinternet,no wasn't directed at you specifically, but I jsut see people going so absolutley bananas about spam and don't understand the big fuss....
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Financially I say spam is good for the overall economy....Supply and Demand baby...
If ISP's get 'clogged up' that means they "NEED" to buy more pipe and equipment to suport the flow of biz right? Therefore someone is buying more pipe, etc.....think of all the tax money made & paid by spammers....if you think spamming is a bad thing, which of course it has quite a few downfalls too, thing it through one more time without your pre-programmed hate of spam hat on.... It's more Earth-Friendly than direct mail as it doesn't end up in a big land-fill, it's less annoying than harrassing phone calls during dinner, and for me it sure beats watching commercials I don't give a fuck about during TV programs.... Spam haters are why monopolies begin and flourish, they ONLY want their propoganda sent to them by the 'biggest of players that are OK in their eyes' and a the same time bitch about Microsoft and big government, LOL..... They will also whine when their own business gets shut out by the 'networkization' of the internet, when it becomes the NBC/ABC/CBS-only players club and their little asses are sitting their trying to live off the scraps... Cows Cows Cows, stop and think for a few.... There is more than one side, I'm not an advocate of spam by ANYmeans, but....don't be like most simpletons and be a 'team picker, flag waver' for the sake of being one, think it all the way through on both sides, then hit your delete button ![]() Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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there is a difference in me seeing a commercial on tv I dont want to see than my little cousin getting a mail asking him if he wants some tight teen pussy... there is a reason for optin and double optin mailings...do you know the reasons? TARGET AUDIENCE... i have absolutly no problem with people who send mails to people who want it... If somebody spammed you with a CP site,you don tlike it correct? you would report it correct?...point proven correct? good for the economy? you think spammers pay taxes? lol ... you think every spam mail you get is coming from some big lab with 300 computers? bullshit...most of the spam you are getting is coming from a single person on a single computer if you can spam and not hit a little kids email box,and you can guarantee 100% it will never hit a child... I will say you can spam and so will congress... but you can't...so knock the shit off or pay the consequence when i report you and have you termed... I dont see if you are a legit webmaster you can agree with people stealing your signups... makes you think about what YOU people saying "just delete it" are actually doing hm?
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NO COST PORN,
I never said one time I agreed with 'adult' email spamming at all. I agree that is wrong 100% of the time. However, if it is truely double-opt in emailng then I'm all for it. How can YOU assure that 100% of the people viewing your porn are adults only? You can NOT do, so I guess you are arguing yourself out of a business? Again, take your Ginkoba and THINK it through man. Also, for the administrator that banned my username, 'go fuck yourself' LOL.... Denying my my 1st amendment rights to at LEAST respond was rather harsh imo. I've been a responsible webmaster for well over 4 years, have never spammed anything adult via email nor will I. I was stating a point that not many are willing to express openly but it is true and my right. This is a public forum...Yes? Why did you ban me without a warning at least? Very rude, but then again, I should have expected it.
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sure there are countries who don't care about laws for the most part like russia, but then you can just find ip addresses that resolve to russian internet providers and ban those easier by knowing specific regions where spam is coming from at that point.
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i dont think they banned you...might want to look into that There is also a difference between a 12 year old kid coming to your TGP without your knowing consent.... and you actually sending them a mail.... Thats like going to the playground and recruiting kids to sell crack... kids shouldnt be your target audience... I'm sure the percentages are very high that most spam is seen by somebody underage moreso than an adult....
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why is thejimmy banned
this guy is one of the most loyal, honest, kinda hearted webmasters in this business wtf? |
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NO COST PORN,
You run a TGP and you bitch about emailers possibly sending a 'potentially' text only advertisement to a porn site while you KNOW TGPs & feeders get sucked into some rather 'non adult' searches on engines all the time? Wow, again, I must ask you to think it through. Take a logic class, pop some Ginko, or just try some good old fashion caffeine. It works and I have faith in that fact that you can exercise these abilities... Oh, And yeh, I think it's a ban, not 100% sure of course, but what does it mean when I go to reply to a post, and I get this? "You do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: You do not have permission to access the page that you were trying to. Are you trying to edit someone else's post or trying to access administrative features? Check that you are allowed to perform this action in the Forum Rules. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation. " It would be funny if it is a ban though, because then the same people that are making a living off the 1st Amendment would denying it so quickly and arbitrarily to others. I would liken that action to being a Jewish Nazi. Self-hating, deprication....And yes I can talk shit in this manner as I'm part German and Jewish...so bite me anyone that would quickly acuse me of making anti-semetic remarks. ;) Auf Peterstain |
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don't get all up in arms and talk about "freedom of speech" - here's your definition. Quote:
the amendment was setup so that people did not have to fear the government for speaking their mind, since that is really the only body that could legally hurt someone for speaking their mind. no one has any legal obligations to allow you to post, in fact it's quite the opposite; i believe if you've been repeatedly asked and banned you could face some sort of cease and desist with possible legal actions if you continued to post once warnings had been issued (not saying they have in this case.. but there is nothing guaranteeing your usage of this site.)
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I don't run a tgp .. I dont even give porn away for free (signed up with this name for one post and now I'm stuck with it) Once again,there is a difference in a child SEARCHING for porn and a child having porn delivered to him...is that hard to understand?... when I look at it,thats the only problem I have with spam because that touches me on a personal level... the billions of dollars it cost email servers doesnt concern me at this point but I'm sure it will later down the road and I bet thats why my AOL bill is going up every 2 months...
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Thanks Pete, you know I meant no 'cheering' for unethical spamming of adult material to children.
I was shocked to see that notice when I merely tried to reply and continue discussing this issue. My main goal was to have a few webmasters think about this issue from another side of the coin and to exercise their heads a little. Oh well, I guess it's more politically correct in the GFY world to ban someone for trying to make people think than to ban someone that gives away free porn to children all day long. ;-) j/k No worries, my feelings don't get hurt easily, I just had a bout of procrastination and board-pissing is more fun than some of the work I gotta do today. bis spater, TheJ
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Ok, then I owe you an apology for assuming that you give away free porn based on your nick ;)
The bill going up I think has more to do with AOL wanting fatter profit margins than any true cost issues, access and pricing on things almost always go up no matter what regardless. Although I'm sure I could be wrong. But I think to myself....has the price of Coca Cola or Pepsi gone down over the past few years? The cost of smokes gone down? The cost of ammunition gone down? Hmmm, nope, last I checked the price of almost everything usually goes up in time ![]()
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are TGPers stealing The Hun's signups when they take his traffic? Are search engine guys stealing Yahoo's signups? If the person is inclined to signup for a site, then they are going to signup...so, first to get them gets the reward..... personally, I don't want my emails going to children because children don't have creidt cards....it does me no good to have any minors on my site at all...legal hassles aside, they can't spend money...all they do is make the counter spin and cost bandwidth... here's a tip for newbies... you want to make decent long term money in this business? Collect your own emails...that's right, put an email catcher on all your galleries instead of a banner....why do you think Join4Free, FEB, etc. are paying what they are for signups? Email marketing, when done CORRECTLY, can be highly profitable...don't buy a shitty 5 million email cd for $50 and think you'll make any money...put up your own email box and double opt-in the surfers and send them a daily newsletter with a couple jokes and links to a couple pics...get them used to your emails, then slowly add more advertisements to your mailers and watch your income rise... fuck, now I let the cat out of the bag...there go my profit margins ;))))))))
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Topic: Does EraserCash pay for spam traffic?
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the whining on gfy is reaching new levels
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If anyone needs an affiliate programs that pays no matter what you do. I can help.
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