I wrote it. It's 100% me. It's not a cheap shot - it's the truth.

Conspiracy theory is a paradox by nature and the only people who dont accept the paradox are those who believe in the dogma of the theory. Believing something, when faced with indisputable fact (ie fact/statement/hypothesis > confidence interval type probability of liklihood) to the contrary, is insantity.

4 planes were hijacked. 3 hit their targets, 1 crashed in a field.

If you cannot accept this - even having watched it on TV - and with all the hundreds (thousands?) of people directly involved who can validate this reality - if you cannot accept this, then I say there is a more complex psychological issue at hand. The sheer lack of objectivity and the relentless pursuit of 'the truth' (which is supported by fallacy) is a symptom of some kind of psychological problem.

Im sorry if there are people who are offended by that or who take it personally - but it applies everywhere else and it should apply here.

This is all me writing everything - no copy and paste, no google - just my educated mind.

Someone has the evidence to blow this wide open, there just to scared to do so, imaging seeing the real tape's of the pentagon! that would do it for me.

It's going to take some good PROOF to shut down the brain washed.

Maybe if you google 911 wacko proof..... :winkwink:

That's pretty much my whole point.. Just some things about this whole 9/11 thing that don't make sense..

I could say it coulda been this, or coulda been that, but looking at it and watching it all fall at the same slit second... with no hesitation or resistance from any point.. just has no logic to it.. And I don't see any explosions that would have caused it to fall in that manner either.. Just one for the books I guess..

So you think the beams below would somehow have the power to stop that huge mass of building already coming down? Weight plus inertia. " I dont think so scooter " (using a Ron White voice)

Ever seen a treeline stop an avalance? lol

Well damn! If those were the scientific facts you were talkin about, you coulda just said so in the last post and saved alot of those fancy phrases..

Other than that it kinda sounded like, "If you don't believe everything the government's telling you, then your an insane conspiracy theorist."

Reminds me of the loose phrase, "The direction of the stairs is determined by the end you're standin' on."
Experts on both ends of the stick say they can prove they're right, regardless what the other end says.. And neither is satisfied with the proof produced by the other.

The one major problem I see with it all is the broad or misuse of the term, "conspiracy theorist" ..
If I say that I don't believe the government's version of how the buildings fell, many would label me as one. To question the government... or even doubt it, doesn't scream conspiracy. Uncle Sam, or anyone else can be doubted, or even be dead wrong and not be conspiring to do or not do something.

But... as with this, or any other related thread, we all feel the way we feel for our own reasons. That's what makes the world go 'round..

You could be 100%, pat on the back, "See there, I told ya so", dead on the money right.. but until, or if that should happen, some things will just remain speculative.. and in these threads, all you can do is bump heads, compare notes, agree, disagree, and not think you're gonna change anyone's mind..

You seem to be on a mission and I think you're gettin yourself all flustered in your attempts to convince.

The best left option is to agree to disagree.. :)

You'd have to say lots & lots of treelines if comparing them to the beams.. and I think the first few treelines would hinder an avalance to some degree til it built up momentum.

And I'm not saying that the beams would just stop the fall, but somewhere there should have been some resistance for some short amount of time..
At least some, or even just one, of the center supports should have stood through it, even if it was just for a few more seconds..
But all structures, verticals and laterals alike, gave at the same time..

I know the buildings were big, but there's also proportion.. especially at the onset of the fall.. Those are some big ass beams and definitley some big center supports..

And I like Ron too.. :)

Saying the beams would even slow things down goes to show your total misunderstanding of the forces involved. This explains why alot of people out there think the way they do.

the towers fell, because two airplanes crashed on them... plain and simple.

250 :pimp

Ok this video might splain alot to you guys.

http://media.putfile.com/WTC-Collapse-Part-ONE

Now watch the slide show on this site.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/sunder.html

Im going to try and find the full program for the first link. This is the best explanation in straight speak Ive seen.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/sund-flash.html

Watch the slide show seriously. If you cant get it from that you just will never get it.

en. wikipedia .org/wiki/Occam's_Razor

If I were a dead terrorist reading this thread and the 1000's of other similar threads, I would go straight to the big guy and ask for an increase in my "horny virgin"-salary. Not only did a lot of innocent people die, the entire western civilization is divided in half.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...53896774&q=WTC

I like this one - looks like forth of july sparklers - thermite burning

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...53896774&q=WTC

I like this one - looks like forth of july sparklers - thermite burning

dam double post sorry gfy lag

Wow, you're retarded. Im sure there's no chance that it's MELTED PLASTIC or any one of the other myriad building materials used in the WTC.... it's definitely molten metal caused by thermite burning, 100% undeniable.

YOU are part of the problem.

No it's just a box of sparklers one of the employee's had laying around. :winkwink:

Check this one out, a demolition expert see's tower wtc 7 and say's it's a controlled demolition, and he never knew it was from 9/11

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uqrn5x2_f6Q&NR

ooh.. let's play the 'who can link to the most websites" game.

http://representativepress.blogspot....-on-south.html

here is a co-conspirators website with lots of information, quotes, etc from a bunch of co-conspirator firefighters / fire chief who were all paid/threatened by the gov't to say all this stuff, right?

What do you think of these Firemen ?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html
"We were trying to get some of the people out, but then there was secondary explosions and then subsequent collapses."


look at the goodies these guy got
New York City Responders Get $500M Wireless Network

http://cms.firehouse.com/content/art...2&sectionId=46

that's only a small fraction of the untold story.

Whoever posted that clip posted it as evidence that there was bombs planted... lol

I think this dead horse has already been beaten a little too long.

Of course theres going to be secondary explosions and subsequent collapses.. what do you think was in those buildings... it wasn't just newspaper.

I give up dude, you're right - Santa Claus IS real. Good luck with your mission of truth - im sure history will remember you.

Thread bookmarked just for you :winkwink:

Me again! :)

In a recent reply to me you say, "Saying the beams would even slow things down goes to show your total misunderstanding of the forces involved. This explains why alot of people out there think the way they do."

Then you link to a site where the guy said that the building lunges forward and falls; ....giving way first on the damaged side... which is what I said I thought should have happened when I said it should have given way at the weakest point and toppled a bit before falling..

So which do you choose to stick with?
The building fell straight down because the forces involved were too great to prevent any resistance from the undamaged side...?

Or the building gave way first on the damaged side, lunged forward and fell... where the opposing wall did offer resistance for a short time...?

THAT's why alot of people out there think the way they do..

If their findings are kinda the same as what I said should have happened.. my, "total misunderstand of the forces involved" would also apply to those that you bring as your reference.

Now that we've established that you seem to want it both ways...

It didn't happen the way they said it did.. If you watch the video again, and this one, you'll see that it started falling first, then toppled.. not lunge forward and fall... 2 quite different scenarios..

So you've linked to a site as your reference where their comments were a bit inaccurate..

This ought be good.. :)

Why are you even arguing with these nuts, they aren't about to change their minds over "facts" as sure as a creationist won't start believing in evolution when presented with hard evidence.

Thermite burns white nice try though. Its not red its pure white.

http://www.nnteenmovies.com/thermite.jpg

Pure white?

yeh he know's it all. :error :error :error :error

http://www.npss.prn.bc.ca/images/Thermite2.jpg

http://chris2x.com/wp-content/thermite.jpg

http://www.chem.psu.edu/ncs/Hallowee...3/Thermite.jpg


http://www.mtsu.edu/~mgt2d/raycharles.jpg

Time For Some Glasses :thumbsup

I won't say it's thermite.. but for someone to say it could be something else doesn't rule it out..

Watching the spray from the bldg, and the spray from thermite, there's a similarity, and any plastic I've ever seen burn... it just dripped and a flame usually accompanied those drips.. but.. doesn't mean plastic must be ruled out either..
Somethin else that the pro's need to research and guess about..

Just more to argue about..

it's a long road till the truth comes out, time time time is on my side yes it is.

yup sure it was thermite. Planted months in advance maybe decades. Then they pointed the plane right at the floor the thermite was on. Precison. No doubt. Silly silly silly kooks.

Ok,you win! Here is the truth... it was a total setup.However,it wasn't the government that was behind it.It was a well-known NewYork Developer.He had new projects scheduled..very lavish highend residentials.The towers were blocking the view of the water.By taking the towers down,he was able to increase the price of each condo by nearly 400%.

Makes as much sense as everything else boucin' about.. :)

i want his wallet !!!!! :pimp

Ever stop to consider both 747 where remotely controlled and loaded with thermite onboard?

Operation Northwoods much?

Do you simply exist to be a petulant turd?

Do you think for yourself, at all?