some sheer force
the builsding takes it well, until the end of course

It's well known that a massive chunk of one of the bottom 20 floors of the building were wiped out by the collapse of one of the towers. There is video of it too.

Errr .. it was already done twice.

The commision, NIST & FEMA have not been able to explain WTC 7 falling yet.

Meanwhile, insurance has paid up and the WTC owner apparently made out like a bandit.
Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million.

Some of the tenants of WTC7:
IRS
CIA
US Secret Service
Departement of Defense
SEC

Conveniently destroyed: thousands of sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history - including Enron and WorldCom -- were stored in the offices of some of the building's tenants.

I think you just like to try to keep things stirred up..

Explain this in that you seem to have the answers..

One of the buildings is hit on one side only.. with a large portion of the fuel expoding outside of the building, and no fire or intense heat on the other side, yet that side starts crumbing at the same time the damaged side did..

Fires burned for about an hour.. Not enough time to cause enough steel to melt to the extent of collapse.. (If you want to believe kerosene can melt hardened steel)

The buildings were designed to take 2 plane impacts from planes in that size range, yet both buildings failed.

The buildings fell at a speed and in a manner that has never happened other than from controlled demolition.

So you have 2 buildings designed to take multiple impacts, that were hit in different places, and had fires that burned for a very short period, yet they both fall in the exact same manner, at a rate only acheived through controlled demolition..

One building collapsing in that manner is unlikely enough, but two side by side collapsing in such a manner is a bit more than coincidence.

No.. I don't have the answers.. nor do you..

I just have questions, like a growing number of people in this country..

This is why it collapsed

Kinda funny they were able to do a controlled demo within a short period of time on wtc 7, which fell exactly as the 2 towers, yet it is oh so obsurd to think it could happen to them..

The majority of the fuel DID NOT burn off in the fireball - why do people keeping saying it did.

wow.. I did not know that about the Mossad agents
where did ya hear that from? Just curious.. though why they'd do it. No idea

why do y ou care what anyone else thinks?

im quite sure the truth will come out in 2-3 years

All of these firemen had to be on crack when they talked about explosions..
dang those conspiracy guys anyway... ROFL!!

What do you think the fireball was??

Compare the fireball to the size of the bldg and then say that..

Further.. even if every bit of the fuel was inside, the fire was out in about an hour.. So no real issue either way..

:( yesterday was a sad day.

As predicted this thread delivered.

Retard :thumbsup

Can we entice anymore nutso people to make themselves look silly?

Ok, I will explain everything you are asking about.

1) The plane was travelling at about 400 MPH. I can assure that there is no such thing as 'magic fuel' that manages to physically seperate itself from the fuel tanks and explode outside the building while the entire plane enters the building. A little wonder of science called "pressure" is what caused your giant fireball.. in laymans terms: there was not enough air (oxygen) inside the building for the explosive chemical reaction to consume all the fuel.. so, in an effort to get more oxygen, the explosion will travel to where there is lots of oxygen. The sheer magnitude of the explosion consumed all the air available inside the building, let's not forget the percussive shockwave created by an impact and explosion of this magnitude.

No, but steel doesnt have to melt to lost most of its structural integrity.

Here's a science experiment you can do at home:

Take a wire coat hanger. Bend it - make a note of how much force it takes to bend the metal.

Take a lighter and hold the flame under a piece of the coat hanger for, oh, say 5 minutes.

Now, bend the metal again - Amazing!! See how much weaker the hot-yet-non-melted metal is! Science is fun!! Structural steel behaves in much the same way. Dont believe me? then you're crazy and/or retarded.

Actually, this is completely false. Please cite your source. They were NOT engineered to take the impace of 757-sized commercial jets travelling at 400mph.

This is a lie propogated across the internet by such geniuses as Dylan Avery and Phoenix. Watch every internet video on this subject - none of their 'sophisticated timing mecanisms' actually start when the building begins to fail, nor do they end at the right time. It is impossible to see the whole collapse because of the debris cloud - and thus it is impossible to accurately time the collapse.

95% of everything you just said is not true.

???? I dont even know how to comment on the above statement.. there is absolutely no rationale/logic/thinking/brain activity going on there.

I have lots of answers!! keep on asking!!

The reason the towers fell are because the United States puts regional corporate interests above the interests of its citizens.

I doubt that whole conspiracy thing is real, if it was they really fucked up... country is more divided than ever before, I don't see anything as a plus for those who did an inside job... except Iraq's oil, but that's a mess, so even that fucked up.

This country will never wake up though and keep having wars on words and creating more attacks. This country is full of cunts, and I am one of them.

Any more kooks around that care to take a stab?

I will grant you, that it may not have been explosives, because the impact was huge.

But I believe that the US government knew or was involved, and allowed it to happen.

Other wise why was Bush sitting in the class room, when the " Nation was under attack "?

He should have been Swiftly moved out of there, and onto airforce 1, and off the ground.

Yeah, I'd agree they might have knew it was going to happen. I mean, 7 minutes reading a book... any idiot would know to get the fuck up and get rolling. I doubt it was US government completely though, they probably just let it happen.

Either way, it was happening with Democrats or Republicans probably... this country is full of complete morons. Two party duopoly bull shit... we are all idiots for allowing it, but I guess that is how we like it!

Sure and scare a classroom of kids. And what difference would it have made exactly?

It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him.

But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers, we were given three times the period required to execute the operations

Im guessing you think nothing was being done without him saying to do something then right? That your angle there?

oh yeah, so silly ... so how come the empire state building is still standing ? it has been hit by a bomber lost in the fog and it burned way longer than any of the towers ! ... and there were other skyscaper burnings that lasted WAY OVER 15 HOURS ! why are thopse STILL STANDING ??? ... why dont you switch on your wetware and realise that adolf george hitler bush is the wrong leader ??? ...

dude, GWB is superman - he could have ran to the boys washroom, torn off his suit.. then flown into space and reversed the spin of the earth to TURN BACK TIME, then he would have gone and used his super-speed to beat-up the hijackers in their hotel rooms before they boarded the flights...

THAT'S the difference it would have made, dude.

seriously.

too bad you have the IQ of frozen yoghurt :thumbsup shut up patriot and dont ask any questions ... you deserve a shithead like bush :321GFY

I will pay you $1 million dollars if you cite one skyscraper that was hit by a plane at least as big as a 757 travelling at over 400mph.

Well perhaps you should research the size of the plane that hit, the weight of it, the way the empire state building is contructed compared to the wtc. How much fuel was on the plane that hit? The floor it hit on. How far did it penetrate into the building. How fast was it going? Thanks for playing though. :thumbsup

Try googling search terms with quotes, like "Sivan Kurzberg" (Mossad agent), "Urban Moving Systems" (probably Mossad front company), "Dominik Otto Suter" (the Israeli owner of Urban Moving Systems - he fled to Israel before the FBI could "chat").

It's hard to find the real facts on them - the net is clogged up with stupid blogs about conspiracy theories and every assholes answer to them - but here's an actual news report:

http://www.sundayherald.com/37707

I nailed my demographic I was looking for. I am a marketing genius. Mad views yo!

Please continue.

Thats quite a reference link there. Golly gee. Do you have pictures or video of these dancing men? Do you have background information, or the ID's of these men? Do you have evidence supporting said men were mossad agents? So now the Israelis and Bin Laden are parnters eh? Again...


Let me put it in english. THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU ARE YAPPING ABOUT.


Now following your modus operandi, you'll come in and make some down your nose looking comment that makes you appear to have the inside information on something. Maybe a quip about someone from GQ...

Unless you have something pertaining to what the thread is discussing, (that is we are discussing why it is very very stupid to say there were bombs, or missles or any other stupid conspiracy theory involved in the attacks on 911) then shut the fuck up, or maybe it would help you to hear it from someone who in circles talks.

http://www.deathclan.com/fun/up_the_shut_fuck.jpg

WTC 1 and 2 do you want to pay me epass or paypal:)

Fuck me - if you are a marketing genius, I'm fucking Donald Duck - and thats not the name on my passport :1orglaugh

"Marketing geniuses" are well-known for their ability. Believe me - there are no "marketing geniuses" around GFY. They earn far more serious money elsewhere.

Fucking clueless as usual :winkwink: But, hell knows - your prob an OK guy despite yourself.

hardy har har :thumbsup

Tip....

SHUT THE FUCK UP

And have a nice day Sticky :thumbsup

No no silly, he had to put on a show. Bite his lip, look concerened.:winkwink:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/img/galle...tR_350x250.jpg

http://www.freedomofexpression.com/1...s/bush_mug.jpg

the real story will come out and we will see who's wearing the tin hats.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rosebud/p.../wtc-hole1.jpg
Can anyone explain this?

Well first you explain to us what you think the picture means.

So unbelivably predictable.