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Scootermuze · 09-12-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambit

The majority of the fuel DID NOT burn off in the fireball - why do people keeping saying it did.

What do you think the fireball was??

Compare the fireball to the size of the bldg and then say that..

Further.. even if every bit of the fuel was inside, the fire was out in about an hour.. So no real issue either way..

Big_Red · 09-12-2006, 08:23 AM

yesterday was a sad day.

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 11:07 AM

As predicted this thread delivered.

Dirty F · 09-12-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

I think you just like to try to keep things stirred up..

Explain this in that you seem to have the answers..

One of the buildings is hit on one side only.. with a large portion of the fuel expoding outside of the building, and no fire or intense heat on the other side, yet that side starts crumbing at the same time the damaged side did..

Fires burned for about an hour.. Not enough time to cause enough steel to melt to the extent of collapse.. (If you want to believe kerosene can melt hardened steel)

The buildings were designed to take 2 plane impacts from planes in that size range, yet both buildings failed.

The buildings fell at a speed and in a manner that has never happened other than from controlled demolition.

So you have 2 buildings designed to take multiple impacts, that were hit in different places, and had fires that burned for a very short period, yet they both fall in the exact same manner, at a rate only acheived through controlled demolition..

One building collapsing in that manner is unlikely enough, but two side by side collapsing in such a manner is a bit more than coincidence.

No.. I don't have the answers.. nor do you..

I just have questions, like a growing number of people in this country..

Retard

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Originally Posted by Franck

Ok, thats it. No more discussing anymore. After these video i think everything is clear to anyone with an IQ above 80.

If people still come up with bombs crap and god knows what i will simply call them retard and nothing more. Thats all they deserve.

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 01:24 PM

Can we entice anymore nutso people to make themselves look silly?

Dollarmansteve · 09-12-2006, 02:07 PM

Ok, I will explain everything you are asking about.

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

I think you just like to try to keep things stirred up..

Explain this in that you seem to have the answers..

One of the buildings is hit on one side only.. with a large portion of the fuel expoding outside of the building, and no fire or intense heat on the other side, yet that side starts crumbing at the same time the damaged side did..

1) The plane was travelling at about 400 MPH. I can assure that there is no such thing as 'magic fuel' that manages to physically seperate itself from the fuel tanks and explode outside the building while the entire plane enters the building. A little wonder of science called "pressure" is what caused your giant fireball.. in laymans terms: there was not enough air (oxygen) inside the building for the explosive chemical reaction to consume all the fuel.. so, in an effort to get more oxygen, the explosion will travel to where there is lots of oxygen. The sheer magnitude of the explosion consumed all the air available inside the building, let's not forget the percussive shockwave created by an impact and explosion of this magnitude.

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

Fires burned for about an hour.. Not enough time to cause enough steel to melt to the extent of collapse.. (If you want to believe kerosene can melt hardened steel)

No, but steel doesnt have to melt to lost most of its structural integrity.

Here's a science experiment you can do at home:

Take a wire coat hanger. Bend it - make a note of how much force it takes to bend the metal.

Take a lighter and hold the flame under a piece of the coat hanger for, oh, say 5 minutes.

Now, bend the metal again - Amazing!! See how much weaker the hot-yet-non-melted metal is! Science is fun!! Structural steel behaves in much the same way. Dont believe me? then you're crazy and/or retarded.

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

The buildings were designed to take 2 plane impacts from planes in that size range, yet both buildings failed.

Actually, this is completely false. Please cite your source. They were NOT engineered to take the impace of 757-sized commercial jets travelling at 400mph.

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

The buildings fell at a speed and in a manner that has never happened other than from controlled demolition.

This is a lie propogated across the internet by such geniuses as Dylan Avery and Phoenix. Watch every internet video on this subject - none of their 'sophisticated timing mecanisms' actually start when the building begins to fail, nor do they end at the right time. It is impossible to see the whole collapse because of the debris cloud - and thus it is impossible to accurately time the collapse.

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

So you have 2 buildings designed to take multiple impacts, that were hit in different places, and had fires that burned for a very short period, yet they both fall in the exact same manner, at a rate only acheived through controlled demolition..

95% of everything you just said is not true.

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

One building collapsing in that manner is unlikely enough, but two side by side collapsing in such a manner is a bit more than coincidence.

???? I dont even know how to comment on the above statement.. there is absolutely no rationale/logic/thinking/brain activity going on there.

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze

No.. I don't have the answers.. nor do you..

I just have questions, like a growing number of people in this country..

I have lots of answers!! keep on asking!!

websiex · 09-12-2006, 02:11 PM

The reason the towers fell are because the United States puts regional corporate interests above the interests of its citizens.

I doubt that whole conspiracy thing is real, if it was they really fucked up... country is more divided than ever before, I don't see anything as a plus for those who did an inside job... except Iraq's oil, but that's a mess, so even that fucked up.

This country will never wake up though and keep having wars on words and creating more attacks. This country is full of cunts, and I am one of them.

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 02:16 PM

Any more kooks around that care to take a stab?

pornguy · 09-12-2006, 02:17 PM

I will grant you, that it may not have been explosives, because the impact was huge.

But I believe that the US government knew or was involved, and allowed it to happen.

Other wise why was Bush sitting in the class room, when the " Nation was under attack "?

He should have been Swiftly moved out of there, and onto airforce 1, and off the ground.

websiex · 09-12-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

I will grant you, that it may not have been explosives, because the impact was huge.

But I believe that the US government knew or was involved, and allowed it to happen.

Other wise why was Bush sitting in the class room, when the " Nation was under attack "?

He should have been Swiftly moved out of there, and onto airforce 1, and off the ground.

Yeah, I'd agree they might have knew it was going to happen. I mean, 7 minutes reading a book... any idiot would know to get the fuck up and get rolling. I doubt it was US government completely though, they probably just let it happen.

Either way, it was happening with Democrats or Republicans probably... this country is full of complete morons. Two party duopoly bull shit... we are all idiots for allowing it, but I guess that is how we like it!

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

I will grant you, that it may not have been explosives, because the impact was huge.

But I believe that the US government knew or was involved, and allowed it to happen.

Other wise why was Bush sitting in the class room, when the " Nation was under attack "?

He should have been Swiftly moved out of there, and onto airforce 1, and off the ground.

Sure and scare a classroom of kids. And what difference would it have made exactly?

websiex · 09-12-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Sure and scare a classroom of kids. And what difference would it have made exactly?

It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him.

But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers, we were given three times the period required to execute the operations

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by websiex

It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him.

But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers, we were given three times the period required to execute the operations

Im guessing you think nothing was being done without him saying to do something then right? That your angle there?

Overload · 09-12-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Here is another view. First tower getting hit.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/52908/wtc_11_09/

and second too.

People just dont understand the kind of force those planes hitting the building caused. Just silly there is even a debate.

oh yeah, so silly ... so how come the empire state building is still standing ? it has been hit by a bomber lost in the fog and it burned way longer than any of the towers ! ... and there were other skyscaper burnings that lasted WAY OVER 15 HOURS ! why are thopse STILL STANDING ??? ... why dont you switch on your wetware and realise that adolf george hitler bush is the wrong leader ??? ...

Dollarmansteve · 09-12-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Sure and scare a classroom of kids. And what difference would it have made exactly?

dude, GWB is superman - he could have ran to the boys washroom, torn off his suit.. then flown into space and reversed the spin of the earth to TURN BACK TIME, then he would have gone and used his super-speed to beat-up the hijackers in their hotel rooms before they boarded the flights...

THAT'S the difference it would have made, dude.

seriously.

Overload · 09-12-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Originally Posted by Franck
Ok, thats it. No more discussing anymore. After these video i think everything is clear to anyone with an IQ above 80.

If people still come up with bombs crap and god knows what i will simply call them retard and nothing more. Thats all they deserve.

too bad you have the IQ of frozen yoghurt

shut up patriot and dont ask any questions ... you deserve a shithead like bush

Dollarmansteve · 09-12-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload

oh yeah, so silly ... so how come the empire state building is still standing ? it has been hit by a bomber lost in the fog and it burned way longer than any of the towers ! ... and there were other skyscaper burnings that lasted WAY OVER 15 HOURS ! why are thopse STILL STANDING ??? ... why dont you switch on your wetware and realise that adolf george hitler bush is the wrong leader ??? ...

I will pay you $1 million dollars if you cite one skyscraper that was hit by a plane at least as big as a 757 travelling at over 400mph.

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload

oh yeah, so silly ... so how come the empire state building is still standing ? it has been hit by a bomber lost in the fog and it burned way longer than any of the towers ! ... and there were other skyscaper burnings that lasted WAY OVER 15 HOURS ! why are thopse STILL STANDING ??? ... why dont you switch on your wetware and realise that adolf george hitler bush is the wrong leader ??? ...

Well perhaps you should research the size of the plane that hit, the weight of it, the way the empire state building is contructed compared to the wtc. How much fuel was on the plane that hit? The floor it hit on. How far did it penetrate into the building. How fast was it going? Thanks for playing though.

Webby · 09-12-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BuggyG

wow.. I did not know that about the Mossad agents
where did ya hear that from? Just curious.. though why they'd do it. No idea

Try googling search terms with quotes, like "Sivan Kurzberg" (Mossad agent), "Urban Moving Systems" (probably Mossad front company), "Dominik Otto Suter" (the Israeli owner of Urban Moving Systems - he fled to Israel before the FBI could "chat").

It's hard to find the real facts on them - the net is clogged up with stupid blogs about conspiracy theories and every assholes answer to them - but here's an actual news report:

http://www.sundayherald.com/37707

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Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001 ...

THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.

Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis ? and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.

Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.

After the attacks on New York and Washington, the former Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would mean for US-Israeli relations. He said: ?It?s very good.? Then he corrected himself, adding: ?Well, it?s not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy [for Israel from Americans].?

If Israel?s closest ally felt the collective pain of mass civilian deaths at the hands of terrorists, then Israel would have an unbreakable bond with the world?s only hyperpower and an effective free hand in dealing with the Palestinian terrorists who had been murdering its innocent civilians as the second intifada dragged on throughout 2001.

It?s not surprising that the New Jersey housewife who first spotted the five Israelis and their white van wants to preserve her anonymity. She?s insisted that she only be identified as Maria. A neighbour in her apartment building had called her just after the first strike on the Twin Towers. Maria grabbed a pair of binoculars and, like millions across the world, she watched the horror of the day unfold.

As she gazed at the burning towers, she noticed a group of men kneeling on the roof of a white van in her parking lot. Here?s her recollection: ?They seemed to be taking a movie. They were like happy, you know ... they didn?t look shocked to me. I thought it was strange.?

Maria jotted down the van?s registration and called the police. The FBI was alerted and soon there was a statewide all points bulletin put out for the apprehension of the van and its occupants. The cops traced the number, establishing that it belonged to a company called Urban Moving.

Police Chief John Schmidig said: ?We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side. Three individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact. They said three people were jumping up and down.?

By 4pm on the afternoon of September 11, the van was spotted near New Jersey?s Giants stadium. A squad car pulled it over and inside were five men in their 20s. They were hustled out of the car with guns levelled at their heads and handcuffed.

In the car was $4700 in cash, a couple of foreign passports and a pair of box cutters ? the concealed Stanley Knife-type blades used by the 19 hijackers who?d flown jetliners into the World Trade Centre and Pentagon just hours before. There were also fresh pictures of the men standing with the smouldering wreckage of the Twin Towers in the background. One image showed a hand flicking a lighter in front of the devastated buildings, like a fan at a pop concert. The driver of the van then told the arresting officers: ?We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.?

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Overload

too bad you have the IQ of frozen yoghurt

shut up patriot and dont ask any questions ... you deserve a shithead like bush

I nailed my demographic I was looking for. I am a marketing genius. Mad views yo!

Please continue.

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Try googling search terms with quotes, like "Sivan Kurzberg" (Mossad agent), "Urban Moving Systems" (probably Mossad front company), "Dominik Otto Suter" (the Israeli owner of Urban Moving Systems - he fled to Israel before the FBI could "chat").

It's hard to find the real facts on them - the net is clogged up with stupid blogs about conspiracy theories and every assholes answer to them - but here's an actual news report:

http://www.sundayherald.com/37707

Thats quite a reference link there. Golly gee. Do you have pictures or video of these dancing men? Do you have background information, or the ID's of these men? Do you have evidence supporting said men were mossad agents? So now the Israelis and Bin Laden are parnters eh? Again...

Let me put it in english. THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU ARE YAPPING ABOUT.

Now following your modus operandi, you'll come in and make some down your nose looking comment that makes you appear to have the inside information on something. Maybe a quip about someone from GQ...

Unless you have something pertaining to what the thread is discussing, (that is we are discussing why it is very very stupid to say there were bombs, or missles or any other stupid conspiracy theory involved in the attacks on 911) then shut the fuck up, or maybe it would help you to hear it from someone who in circles talks.

xclusive · 09-12-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

I will pay you $1 million dollars if you cite one skyscraper that was hit by a plane at least as big as a 757 travelling at over 400mph.

WTC 1 and 2 do you want to pay me epass or paypal

Webby · 09-12-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I nailed my demographic I was looking for. I am a marketing genius. Mad views yo!

Please continue.

Fuck me - if you are a marketing genius, I'm fucking Donald Duck - and thats not the name on my passport

"Marketing geniuses" are well-known for their ability. Believe me - there are no "marketing geniuses" around GFY. They earn far more serious money elsewhere.

Fucking clueless as usual

But, hell knows - your prob an OK guy despite yourself.

Dollarmansteve · 09-12-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xclusive

WTC 1 and 2 do you want to pay me epass or paypal

hardy har har

Webby · 09-12-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Thats quite a reference link there. Golly gee. Do you have pictures or video of these dancing men? Do you have background information, or the ID's of these men? Do you have evidence supporting said men were mossad agents? So now the Israelis and Bin Laden are parnters eh?

Tip....

SHUT THE FUCK UP

And have a nice day Sticky

Big_Red · 09-12-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

I will grant you, that it may not have been explosives, because the impact was huge.

But I believe that the US government knew or was involved, and allowed it to happen.

Other wise why was Bush sitting in the class room, when the " Nation was under attack "?

He should have been Swiftly moved out of there, and onto airforce 1, and off the ground.

No no silly, he had to put on a show. Bite his lip, look concerened.

John69 · 09-12-2006, 03:32 PM

the real story will come out and we will see who's wearing the tin hats.

RF_Erick · 09-12-2006, 03:40 PM

Can anyone explain this?

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RF_Erick

Can anyone explain this?

Well first you explain to us what you think the picture means.

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Fuck me - if you are a marketing genius, I'm fucking Donald Duck - and thats not the name on my passport

"Marketing geniuses" are well-known for their ability. Believe me - there are no "marketing geniuses" around GFY. They earn far more serious money elsewhere.

Fucking clueless as usual

But, hell knows - your prob an OK guy despite yourself.

So unbelivably predictable.

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Originally Posted by StickyFingerz

Now following your modus operandi, you'll come in and make some down your nose looking comment that makes you appear to have the inside information on something. Maybe a quip about someone from GQ...

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Tip....

SHUT THE FUCK UP

And have a nice day Sticky

No really. Show us the proof you have to the mossad being involved. I mean it should be easy right? You are stating your little story as fact without some sort of evidence right? Surely its based off more than a couple guys dancing right?

websiex · 09-12-2006, 04:25 PM

It was just terrorists fueled by the dumb fucking cunts running this country. You think the politicans give a shit about anyone? They don't care about shit, all they want is their corporate buddies to get ahead of the other countries corporate interests.

And it's going to stay like that; it is going to be all foreign interests that we have no fucking business being in, yet the big mighty USA is going to keep swinging its oversized military dick all over the place breaking down buildings with it and killing other countries' innocent civilians. Then the other countries mobsters (the terrorists) will come and fuck some of us up, while our big fucking mob bosses go back at them. It is just gang wars on a worldwide scale.

Stuck in a duopoly that basically says either way you vote, you're still going to get the big red, white, and blue dick up your ass. We are all pawns to the big elite suits, and we are on here arguing about whether 9/11 was an inside job or not.... shows the stupidity of this entire population.

This is real, there are millions of people that hate the USA, and for good reason. Whether or not 9/11 was a conspiracy or not, there are MILLIONS of people that hate the US. Maybe we should put 9/11 behind us and possibly go the route of prevention, but NO we will keep fighting a war on a WORD. Expect more terrorist attacks, we just keep adding the fuel and will do so for a LONG time, because the people in office now have the country accepting in their definiton.

Webby · 09-12-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

No really. Show us the proof you have to the mossad being involved. I mean it should be easy right? You are stating your little story as fact without some sort of evidence right? Surely its based off more than a couple guys dancing right?

Unlike you, I have no interest in forcing bullshit opinions, conspiracy theories or stupid solutions to them. That's the job you undertook with your "genius marketing" thread bullshit.

Nor do I have any fucking desire to prove anything about 9/11 one way or other, - tho it's clear naive Mr Sticky has established all there is to know

As far as Mossad is concerned - look the fucking details up yourself. The story was printed in almost every main newspaper. Try to avoid being a totally ignorant asshole and grow up - it might help your credibility.

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by websiex

It was just terrorists fueled by the dumb fucking cunts running this country. You think the politicans give a shit about anyone? They don't care about shit, all they want is their corporate buddies to get ahead of the other countries corporate interests.

And it's going to stay like that; it is going to be all foreign interests that we have no fucking business being in, yet the big mighty USA is going to keep swinging its oversized military dick all over the place breaking down buildings with it and killing other countries' innocent civilians. Then the other countries mobsters (the terrorists) will come and fuck some of us up, while our big fucking mob bosses go back at them. It is just gang wars on a worldwide scale.

Stuck in a duopoly that basically says either way you vote, you're still going to get the big red, white, and blue dick up your ass. We are all pawns to the big elite suits, and we are on here arguing about whether 9/11 was an inside job or not.... shows the stupidity of this entire population.

This is real, there are millions of people that hate the USA, and for good reason. Whether or not 9/11 was a conspiracy or not, there are MILLIONS of people that hate the US. Maybe we should put 9/11 behind us and possibly go the route of prevention, but NO we will keep fighting a war on a WORD. Expect more terrorist attacks, we just keep adding the fuel and will do so for a LONG time, because the people in office now have the country accepting in their definiton.

So you are saying the best plan would of been to try and appease the terrorist then? If so how would we have gone about making them happy. Do you think that hadnt been tried before? Lets here whacha got.

Webby · 09-12-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

So you are saying the best plan would of been to try and appease the terrorist then? If so how would we have gone about making them happy. Do you think that hadnt been tried before? Lets here whacha got.

Well.... na... I can't be bothered saying much - it's too damned funny watching the intelligence in action

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Unlike you, I have no interest in forcing bullshit opinions, conspiracy theories or stupid solutions to them. That's the job you undertook with your "genius marketing" thread bullshit.

Nor do I have any fucking desire to prove anything about 9/11 one way or other, - tho it's clear naive Mr Sticky has established all there is to know

As far as Mossad is concerned - look the fucking details up yourself. The story was printed in almost every main newspaper. Try to avoid being a totally ignorant asshole and grow up - it might help your credibility.

Ok so on the first bolded point...

1. Why are you in this thread then? Think I already asked you if you had nothing to contribute to the thread to fuck off and go away.

2. Well if it was in every main newspaper then surely you have a better link than an undated, no author listed, sundayhearald article right?

Maybe another comment about me might dilute the conversation enough to make you not look like as much of a pompus ass clown ?

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Well.... na... I can't be bothered saying much - it's too damned funny watching the intelligence in action

Oops you already posted what I mentioned above. Lets see if its working.......

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Nope you still come off as a pompus assclown. Sorry nice attempt though.

websiex · 09-12-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

So you are saying the best plan would of been to try and appease the terrorist then? If so how would we have gone about making them happy. Do you think that hadnt been tried before? Lets here whacha got.

Well, we go back to the start and look for when all of this bullshit started. First, we were giving them money to fight the Soviets, then we yet again sided with the Taliban to try to overthrow Sadaam... but now we're enemies?

Well, if we go back in history we can look at the Lebanese Civil War in 1982 as a good start. The US' 6th division went and helped Israel and bombed a lot of shit there. The US has no business there pretty much, yet our big military dick was swinging around taking down buildings and killing innocent people. We also fund Israel to go in and kill the civilians.

It isn't something easy to explain, it can take pages of information to see how we got into this mess, but let me tell you this much and keep it simple. They don't attack us because they "hate freedom". You don't get MILLIONS of people hating you because they "hate freedom", you get millions of people hating you because your military dick swung through their fathers/mothers/sons/daughters/friends building and killed them for regional global interests.

This terrorism bullshit is kind of recent with the dissolution of the Soviet Union. America got the hyperpower status and started swinging its dick around the region and killing people. This led to groups of people who want to maybe try to get some revenge on the war machine. Afterall, revenge is something humans really want once they themselves got stuck in the ass... so it is reasonable for them to want this and to act in horrible ways against "innocent" people, (even tho the US and Israel wipe out more innocent people than those "terrorist" boys could ever imagine doing).

All depends on how you look at it. We got our big military cock and they got their boys running around in our country waiting to blow shit up. In my opinion, if the US wasn't a hyperpower and didn't put its dick in everyones face, it wouldn't have these problems. You don't see terrorists attacking Sweden afterall...

All about the regional and corporate interests. They don't give a FUCK about you or me, it is all about their own interests. And as for the terrorists, they just want the middle east to be ... out of superpower interests and Islamic. Not good people, but we aren't any better.

(Remember, the US isn't the "people" it is the US Government. There is a strict distinction between the 2 since the "people" have no power in the government. Same as the people in the "terrorist" countries, the "terrorists" are the ones who start the shit, and then get their own people fucked up the ass. Same works with us, just the two mob bosses fighting each other and fucking the citizens. We are to blame though since we just follow along like the big stupid dumb cunts we all are... I have no sympathy for us.)

sonofsam · 09-12-2006, 04:53 PM

stickyfingerz: Go watch some more fox news.

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by websiex

Well, we go back to the start and look for when all of this bullshit started. First, we were giving them money to fight the Soviets, then we yet again sided with the Taliban to try to overthrow Sadaam... but now we're enemies?

Well, if we go back in history we can look at the Lebanese Civil War in 1982 as a good start. The US' 6th division went and helped Israel and bombed a lot of shit there. The US has no business there pretty much, yet our big military dick was swinging around taking down buildings and killing innocent people. We also fund Israel to go in and kill the civilians.

It isn't something easy to explain, it can take pages of information to see how we got into this mess, but let me tell you this much and keep it simple. They don't attack us because they "hate freedom". You don't get MILLIONS of people hating you because they "hate freedom", you get millions of people hating you because your military dick swung through their fathers/mothers/sons/daughters/friends building and killed them for regional global interests.

This terrorism bullshit is kind of recent with the dissolution of the Soviet Union. America got the hyperpower status and started swinging its dick around the region and killing people. This led to groups of people who want to maybe try to get some revenge on the war machine. Afterall, revenge is something humans really want once they themselves got stuck in the ass... so it is reasonable for them to want this and to act in horrible ways against "innocent" people, (even tho the US and Israel wipe out more innocent people than those "terrorist" boys could ever imagine doing).

All depends on how you look at it. We got our big military cock and they got their boys running around in our country waiting to blow shit up. In my opinion, if the US wasn't a hyperpower and didn't put its dick in everyones face, it wouldn't have these problems. You don't see terrorists attacking Sweden afterall...

All about the regional and corporate interests. They don't give a FUCK about you or me, it is all about their own interests. And as for the terrorists, they just want the middle east to be ... out of superpower interests and Islamic. Not good people, but we aren't any better.

(Remember, the US isn't the "people" it is the US Government. There is a strict distinction between the 2 since the "people" have no power in the government. Same as the people in the "terrorist" countries, the "terrorists" are the ones who start the shit, and then get their own people fucked up the ass. Same works with us, just the two mob bosses fighting each other and fucking the citizens. We are to blame though since we just follow along like the big stupid dumb cunts we all are... I have no sympathy for us.)

I know the history and the background. Now explain to me why that gives them the right to kill us?

Webby · 09-12-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Ok so on the first bolded point...

1. Why are you in this thread then? Think I already asked you if you had nothing to contribute to the thread to fuck off and go away.

2. Well if it was in every main newspaper then surely you have a better link than an undated, no author listed, sundayhearald article right?

Maybe another comment about me might dilute the conversation enough to make you not look like as much of a pompus ass clown ?

1. It's a fascinating source of amusement watching attempts at an intelligent conversation. You had a number of sensible comments - but your reponse is too dumb, blinkered and idiotic - it's too funny.

2. Have you heard of a search engine? It's the place to find references to stuff you are clearly ignorant about. Try.. anywhere... the Washington Post suit you??

But Sticky... I really enjoy being pompous (remember to spell it correctly the next time) - especially with naive Sticky

You are an fountain of knowledge - it's hard to ignore.

PS But don't you like me posting Sticky? - it bounces your marketing genius thread

When the thread hits off the page - ask another stupid question.

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

stickyfingerz: Go watch some more fox news.

Im busy checking this site out right now, Ill watch fox later

www.juliablue.com

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

1. It's a fascinating source of amusement watching attempts at an intelligent conversation. You had a number of sensible comments - but your reponse is too dumb, blinkered and idiotic - it's too funny.

2. Have you heard of a search engine? It's the place to find references to stuff you are clearly ignorant about. Try.. anywhere... the Washington Post suit you??

But Sticky... I really enjoy being pompous (remember to spell it correctly the next time) - especially with naive Sticky

You are an fountain of knowledge - it's hard to ignore.

PS But don't you like me posting Sticky? - it bounces your marketing genius thread

When the thread hits off the page - ask another stupid question.

Need more rope? lol

Give me ONE link other than what you posted. If it was so easy to find you wouldnt of used the SundayHerald.

RF_Erick · 09-12-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Well first you explain to us what you think the picture means.

Well some claim the building was raging in massive fires hot enough to melt steel. What are these people made of?

websiex · 09-12-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I know the history and the background. Now explain to me why that gives them the right to kill us?

Because we don't do anything to stop the corporate suits from doing anything. The citizens just sit around and trust these people with their security, even though the proof is there that we are part of the cause of all of this bullshit.

I can ask you the same question, Why do we have the right to kill the innocent people in the middle eastern countries? Why can we have 30,000 civilians killed in Iraq and it is collateral damage, yet if they come and blow one of our buildings up it is a terrorist attack? The World Trade Center was actually a good target to hit from a strategic standpoint.... it was like blowing up a few cities at once considering how large the buildings were... the people inside were just "collateral damage" to the terrorists, just like the Lebanese, Iraqis, Afgans, ect are the same for us... it is just a big dick swinging contest started by US global interests after the Cold War. These people didn't just think "Hey, lets hate the US!", there is a cause and an effect, but you can keep buying into the supernatural excuse that they are innately evil. Millions of people hate us, and we are a part of the cause... blowing up more people doesn't solve shit, it just causes more of us to get blown up.

This won't stop though, the country is full of idiots who will keep voting to keep these dumb cunts in power and getting us killed, and I say good. If it really does start sinking I will bail out and leave the dumb asses stuck here with the "terrorists". I'm glad I can look out for my own self interests, because the government sure as fuck doesn't give a flying fuck what happens to me.

Like I said, once the terrorist attacks start happening frequently (which will happen), I'm out of here... I'm not sticking around and getting killed over corporate bull shit, no way, no how. You can be a patriot though and fight the "terrorists".

RF_Erick · 09-12-2006, 05:04 PM

I have another question
Both towers got hit by 2 different planes in 2 different area's causing different damage, yet 2 buildings that day fell in the exact same way. Isnt that a little odd?

John69 · 09-12-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Well first you explain to us what you think the picture means.

This is the girl that wanted the helicopter to resque her after the jet fuel burned off.

Meaning the fire was not all that hot, and dont say it
all ran down the elevator shaft, that is a crock of shit as well.

smashface · 09-12-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Can we entice anymore nutso people to make themselves look silly?

That must be my cue.

I don't disagree with your description of why you think the towers fell, but why does someone who disagrees with you become a nutso liberal tree hugger?

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by smashface

That must be my cue.

I don't disagree with your description of why you think the towers fell, but why does someone who disagrees with you become a nutso liberal tree hugger?

Why are they nuts? I dont think this needs an answer. Anyone that thinks explosives were used, or there were missles on planes, or missles instead of planes is a wacko.

stickyfingerz · 09-12-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RF_Erick

Well some claim the building was raging in massive fires hot enough to melt steel. What are these people made of?

I heard testimonies of people yesterday that were on the floors where it hit, and above. One guy had skin grafts on both arms. They estimated the tempetures went from 72 degrees to 1800 degrees. Are you saying there were no fires?

Watch the video I posted in the first place where it collapses. Is there a fire in the video?

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09-12-2006, 11:07 AM	#53
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	As predicted this thread delivered.

09-12-2006, 01:24 PM	#55
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Can we entice anymore nutso people to make themselves look silly?

09-12-2006, 02:11 PM	#57
websiex Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, United States of America Posts: 987	The reason the towers fell are because the United States puts regional corporate interests above the interests of its citizens. I doubt that whole conspiracy thing is real, if it was they really fucked up... country is more divided than ever before, I don't see anything as a plus for those who did an inside job... except Iraq's oil, but that's a mess, so even that fucked up. This country will never wake up though and keep having wars on words and creating more attacks. This country is full of cunts, and I am one of them.

09-12-2006, 02:16 PM	#58
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Any more kooks around that care to take a stab?

09-12-2006, 04:25 PM	#82
websiex Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, United States of America Posts: 987	It was just terrorists fueled by the dumb fucking cunts running this country. You think the politicans give a shit about anyone? They don't care about shit, all they want is their corporate buddies to get ahead of the other countries corporate interests. And it's going to stay like that; it is going to be all foreign interests that we have no fucking business being in, yet the big mighty USA is going to keep swinging its oversized military dick all over the place breaking down buildings with it and killing other countries' innocent civilians. Then the other countries mobsters (the terrorists) will come and fuck some of us up, while our big fucking mob bosses go back at them. It is just gang wars on a worldwide scale. Stuck in a duopoly that basically says either way you vote, you're still going to get the big red, white, and blue dick up your ass. We are all pawns to the big elite suits, and we are on here arguing about whether 9/11 was an inside job or not.... shows the stupidity of this entire population. This is real, there are millions of people that hate the USA, and for good reason. Whether or not 9/11 was a conspiracy or not, there are MILLIONS of people that hate the US. Maybe we should put 9/11 behind us and possibly go the route of prevention, but NO we will keep fighting a war on a WORD. Expect more terrorist attacks, we just keep adding the fuel and will do so for a LONG time, because the people in office now have the country accepting in their definiton.

09-12-2006, 05:04 PM	#96
RF_Erick Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md Posts: 946	I have another question Both towers got hit by 2 different planes in 2 different area's causing different damage, yet 2 buildings that day fell in the exact same way. Isnt that a little odd? __________________ Exclusive Reality Feeds - [email protected] - ICQ: 4144516