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Old 06-21-2002, 09:59 AM   #1
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How many USA webmasters have left the country with web income?!

This has got to be common...

Please share with us your stories -- I bet they are interesting! I've always thought of doing this but it's a big commitment...

How many of you guys live like a king in another country with your web earnings?
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Old 06-21-2002, 10:04 AM   #2
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I wouldnt live anywhere but the USa no matter what I make or exchanges.

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I wouldnt live anywhere but the USa no matter what I make or exchanges.

I with right there w/ ya! Why would anyone leave the states anyway? The be3st coutry in the world!
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This has got to be common...

Please share with us your stories -- I bet they are interesting! I've always thought of doing this but it's a big commitment...

How many of you guys live like a king in another country with your web earnings?
Make sure you know all the tax implications before you do, you may still have to pay taxes even though you have "left" the country.
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me, I selfclick my 2 sponsors (2 clicks = 8cents) and I live like a king in Congo!
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I thought about leaving Canada to live like a king elsewhere but anywhere I would be willing to move had the same taxes/exchange rate just about.

You'd need to live in a poor country to make bank on your income.
I remember someone saying they earn
only $400 USD a MONTH and in India that was equal to a great salary.
(I think India banned porn so you could get in trouble in some of these places running adult sites)

Would you want to live in a place like India to really profit from the USD?

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I thought about leaving Canada to live like a king elsewhere but anywhere I would be willing to move had the same taxes/exchange rate just about.

You'd need to live in a poor country to make bank on your income.
I remember someone saying they earn
only $400 USD a MONTH and in India that was equal to a great salary.
(I think India banned porn so you could get in trouble in some of these places running adult sites)

Would you want to live in a place like India to really profit from the USD?
Chances are you'll be in a 3rd world country. In Indonesia it's about $1 for a meal.
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Old 06-21-2002, 10:24 AM   #8
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Who cares if you like the USA -- that's not the question I posed. I already know there are millions of conventional people -- I'm asking for the unconventional people to speak up. Didn't Labret move to Mexico? Didn't Soul_Rebel move to Greece? What happened to these guys? I know LatinaLocator.com moved to Costa Rica and my buddy Nar is planning to move there also. I know another guy that moved to Cypress and has a huge villa there. OnProbation.com is always raving about Thailand...

Fascinating stuff... but let's hear the stories...
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Let's hear from the Indian webmasters... Can you live like a king on $500/month? I used to work w/ a lot of Indian guys at IBM -- they all wanted to find a way to get $500/month from the USA so they could go back to India to live like kings... They were damn serious about this too -- and these guys were living pretty well already in FL -- they made at least $80,000/year.
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I have lived in other countries while still working on porn. I just take my laptop and get a net connection (usually dial-up) and I'm good. But I've only worked in modern countries (Europe, Australia, Canada, USA). I briefly considered what it would be like to live and work in the Greek islands (like Crete) or Fiji, but decided that getting reliable net connections is the biggest problem.
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Old 06-21-2002, 10:33 AM   #11
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NO NO the guy I was talking with said he was living well on $400 USD in India but not like a king. He might have been full of BS though. I'm interested in this topic as well. Post some real life stories folks.
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I used the money I made setting up Bourbocams and the first Internet Cafe in new orleans in 97 to move to california to "Live Like A King." in 98, does that count?

Not to mention I moved here for the great herbs. If anything, Amsterdam I suppose. Or france.

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go to the czech republic, hungary, or some of the other former eastern block countries (slovenia comes to mind too). $500-$2000 a month and you'll live like a king (depending on what your definition on living like a king is). ask charly - wasn't he in the czech r.? i'd say prague is the best place to live in europe right now (and maybe the world too).
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The average person in India makes less than $200/month, so I would think that if you were making a few thousand $$$ a month then you would be doing well compared to others around you.

You might save some money because living expenses might be a little cheaper, but you would have to live in a shithole with massive poverty everywhere and very poor sanitary conditions. In my opinion, you might as well just move to a really cheap area of the US, if all you're interested in is saving money on living expenses.
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Old 06-21-2002, 10:44 AM   #15
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never, ever go to live in india...lol.
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Old 06-21-2002, 10:46 AM   #16
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if all you're interested in is saving money on living expenses.
TheFLY wants to BUY sexslaves which are illegal in the US. He wants to live in a 3rd world piece of shit so long as 12 beautiful women are in his basement 24/7 & he is living in a castle.
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The average person in Afganistan makes about $200 a year, but that doesn't mean I would want to live there.
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Old 06-21-2002, 10:49 AM   #18
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I with right there w/ ya! Why would anyone leave the states anyway? The be3st coutry in the world!

here we fucking go again...


have you lived anywhere else?

so how would you know??
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I would have to say that one of the best places to live and work would have to be countries in the south pacific, especially Australia and New Zealand, but also Fiji and Indonesia.

In Oz and NZ, you can get some "cheap as chips" real estate right near the beaches, but you still get the bonus of living in a modern english speaking country with good net connections and broadband internet.

In Fiji or Indonesia, the real estate would be even cheaper, and you could live in tropical paradise, but the people don't necesarilly speak english and getting a reliable net connection could be a problem, but can be done.
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In my opinion, you might as well just move to a really cheap area of the US, if all you're interested in is saving money on living expenses.
You have a good point there -- I do live in a cheap area which probably has close to some 3rd-world-country prices... but to write off everything besides the USA as unsanitary is just ignorant. Costa Rica has better health care than the USA -- many Americans go down there just to be operated on because it's a much better value and many of the doctors in Costa Rica are trained in the USA.

Here's an example of "Health Tourism"

Heart bypass operation in the USA -- surgeon only costs $50,000 -- not including room, anesthesiologist, medication, etc.

Total cost of heart bypass in Costa Rica $15,000 all inclusive -- pre/post op expenses.

I could go on and on about how much better their health care system is but nobody will read all of it anyway ;)
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I would have to say that one of the best places to live and work would have to be countries in the south pacific, especially Australia and New Zealand, but also Fiji and Indonesia.
Cool man -- I never even thought of Australia of New Zealand -- I will have to consider these -- I even have some family in Australia and I'm part Aboriginee ;)
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go to the czech republic, hungary, or some of the other former eastern block countries (slovenia comes to mind too). $500-$2000 a month and you'll live like a king (depending on what your definition on living like a king is). ask charly - wasn't he in the czech r.? i'd say prague is the best place to live in europe right now (and maybe the world too).
No it absolutely sucks here, inflation is running at 200% a month. I have to pay the Mafia rent on a building they do not own. The woman are the ugliest I've ever seen and with attitudes that stink.

We keep getting power cuts and the water when it runs is a funny colour, we have to boil it before we wash our clothes in it. It never stops raining except when it snows.

The Internet connection is so slow it takes 5 minutes to refresh this page.

I would love to live in lovely US of A if only my drug bust did not exclude me. You are so well off their you do not know how lucky you are.

But if you insist on coming email me and I will get my "partners" to meet you at the airport. Boris and Sacha will pick you up and explain how things work here.
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No it absolutely sucks here, inflation is running at 200% a month. I have to pay the Mafia rent on a building they do not own. The woman are the ugliest I've ever seen and with attitudes that stink.

We keep getting power cuts and the water when it runs is a funny colour, we have to boil it before we wash our clothes in it. It never stops raining except when it snows.

The Internet connection is so slow it takes 5 minutes to refresh this page.

I would love to live in lovely US of A if only my drug bust did not exclude me. You are so well off their you do not know how lucky you are.

But if you insist on coming email me and I will get my "partners" to meet you at the airport. Boris and Sacha will pick you up and explain how things work here.
wanna keep it just for yourself, heh?
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I'm not from the usa but I receive all my money in dollars and it's worth about twice as much here as in the states..
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You definitely won't live like a king in Prague with $2k/month in your pocket...
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it all depends on your definition of living like a king. of course if your imagination is too wild, the amount of money you'll need will be much higher (anywhere, not just in prague), but 2k/month in prague should ensure you a very comfortable lifestyle.
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You definitely won't live like a king in Prague with $2k/month in your pocket...
Americans think the rest of the world earn $200 a year.

A decent one bed flat in Prague will cost you $1,000 a month. My mates live in a very nice modern 3 bed flat in a poor part of Prague and pay $1,500 a month.

I was joking on the other post, I've actually wrote an article about it here,

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an average middle to upper class family, both partners working, make around $1k a month here in Mexico (Merida), a manager does around $500 a month and a general manager will do up to $1k or more...


Now, it's possible to live a lot better than in the US with a lot less money, but living like a king is a bit harder than that...

my suggestion, if you're making $5k+ on the internet, and your sponsors wire you the money, then move down here, you'll be kicking ass...

here are some stats based on myself.

rent $170 (nice 2 bedroom house on a cool neighborhood, private security)

food ~200 month (2 persons)

cable internet $80 a month (not as good as it should be, but it does the job)


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things must have changed a bit in the last several years. but prague is still as beautiful i hope;)
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My dream is to buy an island and retire... but there won't be any islands left to buy from the rate I'm going...
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rent of a four bedroom cottage in oxford, oxfordshire...

$3000 per month.
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me, I selfclick my 2 sponsors (2 clicks = 8cents) and I live like a king in Congo!
lol but the lack of running water and rampant dengue fever makes for a rough going
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Hey Fly, great topic. Let me share my story:

A friend of mine recently moved to the Philippines citing the same reasons you guys discussed. I was thinking of following in his foosteps and going into semi-retirement in the Philippines. I checked it out and here's the report. Bottomline -- NOT a good idea if you're used to the US' standard of living.

Housing costs: totally depends where you settle. If you want to live in Manila, I would suggest getting a place in Makati--the business district. This is probably the closest area to US living standards. The rest of Manila is smoggy, pothole strewn, flooded during the rainy season.

Rent in Makati runs about $500 for a nice condo. But they are not that large. Very small space. I would say rent a house but this would take you out of Makati and most other areas are shitholes. Houses are larger but surrounding area is crap.

If you choose to live in Cebu City [southern Philippines], then housing selection is better and cheaper. There are nice 3 bedroom houses for rent at less than $200 a month. The environment is better in this part of the country.

Food: If I was to live in the PI I would definitely hire a maid/cook to cook food. Home prepared food is cheap--about $1.20 or less for meat and vegetables are cheap. Maids charge about $20 per month. If you eat out, then you might as well stay in the US.
The philippines is host to tons of fast food outlets, pricing is lower than that US but high enough that it can negate any savings you may enjoy by moving to the Philippines

Crime: Foreigners should stay away from Palawan and Mindanao, unless you like getting beheaded by local Muslim fundamentalists. Other than that, watch out for scamsters [mostly in the form of taxi drivers and horny bargirls that want you to take them out]

Manila is extremely crowded and dirty. Try Cebu, its cleaner and people seem more sincere.

Internet connection: DSL is available in Manila and Cebu. Fairly good reliability.




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Please share with us your stories -- I bet they are interesting! I've always thought of doing this but it's a big commitment...

How many of you guys live like a king in another country with your web earnings?
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I know LatinaLocator.com moved to Costa Rica and my buddy Nar is planning to move there also.
My uncle lived in Costa Rica for a year & moved back here about a year 1/2 ago. He said any kinda Net connection there was an absolute nightmare. They're very behind the times there. He did his biz on the Net too. It may have changed since, but I highly doubt it changed drastically....
In Copsta Rica costs of things is almost the sam as the US. A littlew cheaper, but not much. Absolutely fucking beautiful there tho! I seriously considered moving there myself.
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USA is great. USA has the best people. The best president,
The best Language, The best buildings, in USA nothing is fake,
eveything is real. USA is great. in USA people are healthy and
friendly. Yhea USA e-ver
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USA is great. USA has the best people. The best president,
The best Language, The best buildings, in USA nothing is fake,
eveything is real. USA is great. in USA people are healthy and
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eveything is real. USA is great. in USA people are healthy and
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Have you never seen any fake boobs?????????
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Have you never seen any fake boobs?????????
I believe the little dickhead is joking....SirTreX that is.
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I'm not american...but I left Holland and moved to Spain...
I had lived in Spain before for nearly 2 years and I also have lived
in Venezuela for 9 months...I guess Spain is like Mexico to the US.
A lot of opportunities as long as you keep your head together.

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You forgot to say the US has the best Italian food, best Mexican food, best Chinese food, etc.
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the original poster left off the following tags [sarcasm] [/sarcasm]
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My uncle lived in Costa Rica for a year & moved back here about a year 1/2 ago. He said any kinda Net connection there was an absolute nightmare. They're very behind the times there. He did his biz on the Net too. It may have changed since, but I highly doubt it changed drastically....
In Copsta Rica costs of things is almost the sam as the US. A littlew cheaper, but not much. Absolutely fucking beautiful there tho! I seriously considered moving there myself.
You can get cable internet down there now and they recently lowered prices too... Yes and I hear it is very beautiful. At the very least I need to take a nice vacation down there -- I'd just like to learn a little Spanish first before I go...

Also there is satellite internet just about anywhere you could imagine -- I got the hookup on that if you have the bling bling.
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Old 06-21-2002, 05:00 PM   #45
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Fly, how much is satellite internet per month? Whats the upload/download speed?

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You can get cable internet down there now and they recently lowered prices too... Yes and I hear it is very beautiful. At the very least I need to take a nice vacation down there -- I'd just like to learn a little Spanish first before I go...

Also there is satellite internet just about anywhere you could imagine -- I got the hookup on that if you have the bling bling.
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Old 06-21-2002, 05:13 PM   #46
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It's possible to live very nicely in Jamaica. I was in Negril and you can rent whole houses there near the beach for only $250 US. The internet connection is decent since there are tourists there. They even have a few internet cafes. I would only try living in Montego Bay or Negril to get anywhere near US standards.

There's also a white boy who lives down there and hangs out with the ganja farmers and sells ganja videos. I met him while i was down there. His website is at http://www.rastajohn.com

The only thing I hated in jamaica was the roads. They drive way too fast around winding hilly roads and I don't think my nerves could deal with that. Plus they drive on the left side of the roads and their steering wheels are on the right. I would fear a car crash especially since their hospitals aren't near the quality of the US. Plus if you're white, you're going to get treated differently everywhere that you go and you'll only be really accepted by other American Ex-patriates. If you're black, you stil will not be fully recognized but you'll be a whole lot closer to the real jamaica than the white man ever will.

Other than that, I could buy pounds of Ganja for a few dollars, there's also plenty of cocaine if you like that. I had plenty of fine jamaican big booty hoes around that will do almost anything for under $100 US. And if I wasn't so lazy, I could have eaten very cheaply if I was willing to buy and cook my own food. Plus you could bring in a few girls from other countries and pimp them out to the american tourists for extra cash ;)

But even if I was in a paradise, I'd still miss america. Even though they have Kentucky Fried Chickens and Burger Kings, I'd still be homesick. There's no place like america. I'd get tired of all of those fuckin jamaicans up in my face day after day or any other group of foreigners for that matter. But all in all, if you want to move out of the country and don't have any kids yet, Jamaica would be a good option.

Bottom line is if you decide to move out of the country, you not only need money to live when you're there, you need extra money to fly you and your family back and forth if there is ever a family emergency, you need extra health insurance, you need a car, and little shit that costs a fortune overseas like toilet paper and razor blades. Plus you have to train your stomach to deal with all of the new bacteria of the country.

A good alternative would be to move to the virgin islands or puerto rico and just keep a po box and bank account in the bahamas or belize.

I've been thinking about retiring to the caribbean and not working since I was a young child so believe me, I've put a LOT of thought and have done a decent amount of travel to explore my opportunities.
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Old 06-21-2002, 05:18 PM   #47
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LOL that RastaJohn must have smoked some serious shit, before he designed that page..... I got totally stoned just by looking at it...

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Old 06-21-2002, 05:18 PM   #48
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well, not exactly as TheFly said, i didnt move to Greece, but was born and live here. A webmaster living in Greece has both advantages and disadvantages like any country.

Net connection is a serious problem, you can't have better connection than dual isdn and it's fucking EXPENSIVE. The good is this is gonna change on september when adsl will be available to all major cities.

Mail post is not bad at all and rarely i face problems with lost checks. It's not advisable to come from another country to live here and start stating your income since taxation is about 40%.

Cars have double price than the rest countries and gas is very expensive.

Healthcare is good and is provided even to people that can't afford it. According to the reports that E.U. announced this week, we have the lowest criminal rate between european countries. This is due to the fact that poverty is low and there are almost no homeless people. If you have money to spend, then you can consider yourself living in a small paradise. Wages are low and prices on products very good.

Personally I know some webmasters that moved from their country to another one. Working on the web gives you the UNIQUE opportunity to work from every place on earth you want.
People, we are fuckinh LUCKY having this opportunity. I hope in the near future to travel in some countries abroad. A webmaster can be a real world traveler, which is something hard to achive, unless you work for National Geographic hehe
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Old 06-21-2002, 05:56 PM   #49
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an average middle to upper class family, both partners working, make around $1k a month here in Mexico (Merida), a manager does around $500 a month and a general manager will do up to $1k or more...

both partners making a combined amount of $1K a month can hardly be considered a middle/upper class family. $2K to $3K is more accurate.. you can afford private schools for the kids and a beautiful place in a nice neighborhood.... but $1K a month? no way!... I spend that amount on my fish tanks and clothes alone.

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Old 06-21-2002, 05:59 PM   #50
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No it absolutely sucks here, inflation is running at 200% a month. I have to pay the Mafia rent on a building they do not own. The woman are the ugliest I've ever seen and with attitudes that stink.

We keep getting power cuts and the water when it runs is a funny colour, we have to boil it before we wash our clothes in it. It never stops raining except when it snows.

The Internet connection is so slow it takes 5 minutes to refresh this page.

I would love to live in lovely US of A if only my drug bust did not exclude me. You are so well off their you do not know how lucky you are.

But if you insist on coming email me and I will get my "partners" to meet you at the airport. Boris and Sacha will pick you up and explain how things work here.
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