34 children dead in israeli missile attack

[SmokeyTheBear]

sad sad sad..

say no to war , say no to baby killing.

[he-fox]

It's getting really ugly...

[Libertine]

With every child they kill, they create a hundred new "terrorists".

[KRL]

Don't blame Israel. Blame Hezbollah. They started this violence. They're firing 100 missles a day into Israel still. They are keeping families staying in Southern Lebanon as human shields for this exact purpose.

Pray these idiots don't start using chems, bios or nukes into Israel. Then it will become WWWIII and I'm sure the US will have to get involved militarily.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by KRL

Don't blame Israel. Blame Hezbollah. They started this violence. They are keeping families staying in Southern Lebanon as human shields for this exact purpose.

If bankrobbers are holding hostages, and the police just bomb the bank and kill everyone, the police are to blame for the deaths just as much as the bankrobbers are.

I don't like Hezbollah and I despise Islam, but I can see why people join groups like Hezbollah. If your family was killed, if your children were murdered, would you not join any group fighting those who did it if it gave you the chance to get revenge?

[L0rdJuni0r]

i hate war and feel very sad for those poor kids.

[Zyzz]

Thats terrible, war sucks

[Queefcake]

I feel bad for Isreal. Theyre a small little country surrounded by insane cavemen bullies who attack them endlessly

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by KRL

Don't blame Israel. Blame Hezbollah. They started this violence. They're firing 100 missles a day into Israel still. They are keeping families staying in Southern Lebanon as human shields for this exact purpose.

Pray these idiots don't start using chems, bios or nukes into Israel. Then it will become WWWIII and I'm sure the US will have to get involved militarily.

lol if someone poked your kids eye out and the dad said " hey dont blame me your kid threw a pinecone at my kid" i'm sure you would be fine with that.. i'm sure you wouldnt blame the kid..

I blame israel because THEY SHOT THE FUCKING ROCKET , when hezbolla cowards shoot rockets into israel i dont blame israel saying "they started it " who the fuck cares who started it , its fucking babies being killled. like you would care who "started it " if it was your kids..

israeli's could evacuate israel , so the idf is using human shields to protect its troops the same way if thats the methodology you use for justifying baby killing.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Queefcake

I feel bad for Isreal. Theyre a small little country surrounded by insane cavemen bullies who attack them endlessly

i feel bad for israel too , but thats no reason to murder babies..

I feel bad for the homeless guy at the end of the block with no legs , but if he started murdering babies i wouldnt feel so bad for him.

[thaifan99]

And they did it on purpose i suppose? Shit happens in war.

[Oracle Porn]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

israeli's could evacuate israel

actually its Lebanon got evacuated..... those kids should of been long gone from the place of the shooting.

[KRL]

Originally Posted by Libertine

If bankrobbers are holding hostages, and the police just bomb the bank and kill everyone, the police are to blame for the deaths just as much as the bankrobbers are.

I don't like Hezbollah and I despise Islam, but I can see why people join groups like Hezbollah. If your family was killed, if your children were murdered, would you not join any group fighting those who did it if it gave you the chance to get revenge?

These aren't bank robbers, and Israel isn't the police. These are extreme radical terrorists and Israel is their neighbor. And this is sadly a WAR not a bank robbery.

I hate wars. I hate violence. I hate solving issues by blowing up and shooting people. I hate seeing vital infrastructure and homes, businesses in an already impoverished country being turned into rubble. Its all horrible.

I've cried several times seeing the terrified and sullen faces on the Lebanese and Israeli innocent men, women, and children. This is Mankind at his very worst behavior. It's sick. It's sad. It all only propogates more hatred and violence.

But this is the world we live in. There are 6 Billion people here. And as big as this stinking planet is, it's really not that big. Everyone is fighting in one form or another for more money, power, security, resources, etc. So you are bound to have lots of problems and issues arise in the process because a certain percentage will always avoid playing by the rules and get there's in a way that creates antagonism and a response.

15,000 to 30,000 kids worldwide die each day from malnutrition and hunger. That's 6 to 12 Million per year and still you don't see that on the front page of the news or anyone solving that problem.

So we have very real problems on this planet. And its only going to get worse as resources become even more limited, valuable and precious and at the same time the population, good guys and bad guys, continues to explode out of control. We've totally fucked up the environment as well now, and that will only make matters worse.

At the end of the day we have no one to blame but ourselves. It is one planet. There is no backup. It is one world, one people, and even though we are of all different colors, beliefs and types, we are still at the very core, Brothers and the Family of Mankind, and should be caring and responsible for each other's welfare and survival.

We need a great big kick in the ass to come to that realization and acceptance it seems. I pray we all wake up before it is too late, but right now I don't see that anywhere close to happening.

[Queefcake]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i feel bad for israel too , but thats no reason to murder babies..

I feel bad for the homeless guy at the end of the block with no legs , but if he started murdering babies i wouldnt feel so bad for him.

Like they can control where their rockets hit.

Do the cavemen feel bad when they go on a bus in Isreal and blow it up?
How many kids are killed there? and fathers and mothers?
You dont give a shit about them?

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

actually its Lebanon got evacuated..... those kids should of been long gone from the place of the shooting.

thats exactly my point you must have missed it , ISRAEL could evacuate ISRAEL civlians so if your going to use the excuse " they should have evacuated" , then you must also use the same theory for israeli civilians killed during this conflict, its wartime , they were warned about missile attacks they should have evacuated..

[KRL]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

lol if someone poked your kids eye out and the dad said " hey dont blame me your kid threw a pinecone at my kid" i'm sure you would be fine with that.. i'm sure you wouldnt blame the kid..

I blame israel because THEY SHOT THE FUCKING ROCKET , when hezbolla cowards shoot rockets into israel i dont blame israel saying "they started it " who the fuck cares who started it , its fucking babies being killled. like you would care who "started it " if it was your kids..

israeli's could evacuate israel , so the idf is using human shields to protect its troops the same way if thats the methodology you use for justifying baby killing.

Smokey, I understand your point. But, let's be real, if Cuba was firing hundreds of missles a day into South Florida, non-stop, what do you think Cuba would look like right now? Or if North Korea fired a nuke into South Korea? In war, innocent people inevitably get fucked and killed.

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by KRL

Don't blame Israel. Blame Hezbollah. They started this violence. They're firing 100 missles a day into Israel still. They are keeping families staying in Southern Lebanon as human shields for this exact purpose.

Pray these idiots don't start using chems, bios or nukes into Israel. Then it will become WWWIII and I'm sure the US will have to get involved militarily.

what u say is more than ugly, it's not time to know who started anymore when kids are kids. Leban has more victims, Israel is OVERexagerating the responce.

25 kids killed today how come can you dare "Blame Hezbollah. They started this violence"?

Current Figures:
Israel: 51
UN: 4
Canada: 8
Lebanon: 600

[KRL]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

thats exactly my point you must have missed it , ISRAEL could evacuate ISRAEL civlians so if your going to use the excuse " they should have evacuated" , then you must also use the same theory for israeli civilians killed during this conflict, its wartime , they were warned about missile attacks they should have evacuated..

Hezbollah wants Israel to look like a bunch of kid killers. They are deliberately forcing families to stay in the line of fire.

[KRL]

Originally Posted by tahiti

what u say is more than ugly, it's not time to know who started anymore when kids are kids. Leban has more victims, Israel is OVERexagerating the responce.

25 kids killed today how come can you dare "Blame Hezbollah. They started this violence"?

Current Figures:
Israel: 51
UN: 4
Canada: 8
Lebanon: 600

Read my second post.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Queefcake

Like they can control where their rockets hit.

are you really this stupid ?

Originally Posted by Queefcake

Do the cavemen feel bad when they go on a bus in Isreal and blow it up?
How many kids are killed there? and fathers and mothers?

cavemen dont live anymore you racist retard , get your racial slurs correct at least.

Originally Posted by Queefcake

You dont give a shit about them?

I care about anyone who is killed and doesnt deserve it , suicide bombers are cowardly people , so are people who fire rockets at hospitals or areas they know to be heavily populated.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by KRL

Don't blame Israel. Blame Hezbollah. They started this violence. They're firing 100 missles a day into Israel still. They are keeping families staying in Southern Lebanon as human shields for this exact purpose.

Pray these idiots don't start using chems, bios or nukes into Israel. Then it will become WWWIII and I'm sure the US will have to get involved militarily.

I agree with you and I support Israel and feel bad for the normal Lebanese civilians. However you would think Israel would be smart enough to know that they need to be extremely careful.. I mean wtf they know an apt building should be off limits.

I agree that Hezbollah has to go and I'm glad Israel is doing it, but damn they are going to lose any support they had by doing stuff like this.

[Lazonby]

Originally Posted by Libertine

If bankrobbers are holding hostages, and the police just bomb the bank and kill everyone, the police are to blame for the deaths just as much as the bankrobbers are.

Yes, that's EXACTLY like the situation in Lebanon.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by KRL

Smokey, I understand your point. But, let's be real, if Cuba was firing hundreds of missles a day into South Florida, non-stop, what do you think Cuba would look like right now? Or if North Korea fired a nuke into South Korea? In war, innocent people inevitably get fucked and killed.

the problem here is it isnt the lebanese firing hundreds of rockets everyday its a terrorist organization.. if you put a more realistic example..

first off hezbollah wasnt firing off hundreds of rockets a day until israel invaded lebanon so lets try to be true to the facts

The hells angels have killed hundreds of people over the years , about the same as israeli's killed so we will say HA is hezbollah. HA is banned in canada but there are clubhouses everywhere so the canadian military could wipe them out but they haven't , so lets say HA kidnapped 2 american marines.. do you think it would be proper/justified for USA to lob 2 tonne bombs into vancouver ?

ok i will admit the example is a bit slanted because HA dont have missiles , but the numbers are about the same..

[tahiti]

"I agree with you and I support Israel and feel bad for the normal Lebanese civilians. "

you guys make me very sick!! you "feel bad" for more than 600 civilians vs 51 in Israel?

That's real face of war



I hope that u guys will never be directly touch by war or terrorism, I hope...

[MaddCaz]

fuck Israel is ON it

[KRL]

It's very clear here, that people understand how a terrorist army operates.

These guys don't store their weapons and missles in easy to target military facilities and warehouses. All the weapons are forcibly kept in the homes and garages of Civilians.

Have you seen even a single military base or pentagon like building shown in South Lebanon yet?

I've been watching this since it started and I haven't seen any. Even the military HQ for hezbollah are in the bunkers located below Mosques and regular apartment buildings.

These guys don't play by conventional military rules. That is why so many innocent civilians end up getting fucked.

[CamsLord]

its all part of war

[Queefcake]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

cavemen dont live anymore you racist retard

They sure do act like it

youtube.com/watch?v=GDiC6KVBZUk

Thats what the Jews have to deal with everyday. But THEYRE the bad ones for defending themselves.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by KRL

Smokey, I understand your point. But, let's be real, if Cuba was firing hundreds of missles a day into South Florida, non-stop, what do you think Cuba would look like right now? Or if North Korea fired a nuke into South Korea? In war, innocent people inevitably get fucked and killed.

It wasn't Lebanon doing the attacking, it was Hezbollah. A majority of the Lebanese don't support the ideas of Hezbollah (as should be clear from the fact that about 40% of Lebanese are christians and 20% are sunni muslims, while Hezbollah is a shiite organization that wants to turn Lebanon into a fundamentalist shiite state).

[KRL]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

the problem here is it isnt the lebanese firing hundreds of rockets everyday its a terrorist organization.. if you put a more realistic example..

first off hezbollah wasnt firing off hundreds of rockets a day until israel invaded lebanon so lets try to be true to the facts

The hells angels have killed hundreds of people over the years , about the same as israeli's killed so we will say HA is hezbollah. HA is banned in canada but there are clubhouses everywhere so the canadian military could wipe them out but they haven't , so lets say HA kidnapped 2 american marines.. do you think it would be proper/justified for USA to lob 2 tonne bombs into vancouver ?

ok i will admit the example is a bit slanted because HA dont have missiles , but the numbers are about the same..

Hezbollah grew immense popularity with the Lebanese people for one reason and mainly that reason. Iran sends hundreds of Millions of dollars which is used to buy support of the populace through social welfare programs.

That is why so many of the innocent poor people get sucked into these movements. They get lots of handouts from the richly funded terror organizations.

You think all these young militant appearing goofball teenagers dancing around trying to act like soldiers are doing that for Allah??? Come on. Its because they have no jobs, and they get paid and fed to do that shit. Its a matter of survival. Same thing with suicide bombers. The families get $25,000. You know how much $25K is too people that have so little?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by tahiti

"I agree with you and I support Israel and feel bad for the normal Lebanese civilians. "

you guys make me very sick!! you "feel bad" for more than 600 civilians vs 51 in Israel?

That's real face of war



I hope that u guys will never be directly touch by war or terrorism, I hope...

When they allow in their govt a group of extremist whom do this kinda shit.. Well then feeling bad is about all they get. Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese govt and they are responsible for countless attacks against Israel.

So you can post innocent civilians pictures all day long but lets not forget both sides have had their own killed. Israel has been under attack from day one and they have a right to defend themselves.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Libertine

It wasn't Lebanon doing the attacking, it was Hezbollah. A majority of the Lebanese don't support the ideas of Hezbollah (as should be clear from the fact that about 40% of Lebanese are christians and 20% are sunni muslims, while Hezbollah is a shiite organization that wants to turn Lebanon into a fundamentalist shiite state).

Last time I checked Hezbollah was part of the Lebanese govt..

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Libertine

If bankrobbers are holding hostages, and the police just bomb the bank and kill everyone, the police are to blame for the deaths just as much as the bankrobbers are.

I don't like Hezbollah and I despise Islam, but I can see why people join groups like Hezbollah. If your family was killed, if your children were murdered, would you not join any group fighting those who did it if it gave you the chance to get revenge?

no, I'd be smart enough to know it was the terrorists fault, not israel's.

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by Libertine

It wasn't Lebanon doing the attacking, it was Hezbollah. A majority of the Lebanese don't support the ideas of Hezbollah (as should be clear from the fact that about 40% of Lebanese are christians and 20% are sunni muslims, while Hezbollah is a shiite organization that wants to turn Lebanon into a fundamentalist shiite state).

wow FINALLY a smart post. Hezbollah is NOT Leban.
Does KKK represent USA?

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by KRL

Hezbollah wants Israel to look like a bunch of kid killers. They are deliberately forcing families to stay in the line of fire.

And Israel is happily going along with it, responding in a way that has been deemed "disproportionate" by the UN, the EU, etc.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Libertine

If bankrobbers are holding hostages, and the police just bomb the bank and kill everyone, the police are to blame for the deaths just as much as the bankrobbers are.

I don't like Hezbollah and I despise Islam, but I can see why people join groups like Hezbollah. If your family was killed, if your children were murdered, would you not join any group fighting those who did it if it gave you the chance to get revenge?

Funny why dont we see Israeli terrorists then? They get killed by attacks all the time, yet they dont strap bombs on themselves and walk into a crowded bus station.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by KRL

Hezbollah grew immense popularity with the Lebanese people for one reason and mainly that reason. Iran sends hundreds of Millions of dollars which is used to buy support of the populace through social welfare programs.

That is why so many of the innocent poor people get sucked into these movements. They get lots of handouts from the richly funded terror organizations.

You think all these young militant appearing goofball teenagers dancing around trying to act like soldiers are doing that for Allah??? Come on. Its because they have no jobs, and they get paid and fed to do that shit. Its a matter of survival. Same thing with suicide bombers. The families get $25,000. You know how much $25K is too people that have so little?

i agree with everything you just said , but i still dont think murdering children is justified. ever..

[Gerco]

Originally Posted by CamsLord

its all part of war

I have to agree with this. If your going to have a WAR then at that point I don't truly believe there are civilians at that point. I hate to say it, but getting into the war in the first place removes any and all protection for ANYTHING living on either side. Why are people so shocked if a child gets in the way, or a woman, or a anything else for that matter. They are TRYING to kill each other, like they really care it's size, age or gender.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Funny why dont we see Israeli terrorists then? They get killed by attacks all the time, yet they dont strap bombs on themselves and walk into a crowded bus station.

you do see israeli terrorists, they drop bombs on children and fire rockets into populated areas instead of suicide bombers..

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Gerco

I have to agree with this. If your going to have a WAR then at that point I don't truly believe there are civilians at that point. I hate to say it, but getting into the war in the first place removes any and all protection for ANYTHING living on either side. Why are people so shocked if a child gets in the way, or a woman, or a anything else for that matter. They are TRYING to kill each other, like they really care it's size, age or gender.

so hitler was justified in the holocaust because it was during a war ?

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Funny why dont we see Israeli terrorists then? They get killed by attacks all the time, yet they dont strap bombs on themselves and walk into a crowded bus station.

Being a dominant military force, they can kill their opponents without having to resort to suicide attacks. Still, more Palestinian civilians (and Lebanese, now) get killed than Israeli civilians.

It's the "killing civilians" part of terrorism that makes it bad, right? Well, Israel does more of that than their opponents do. It just isn't called "terrorism".

[jayeff]

Originally Posted by KRL

Don't blame Israel. Blame Hezbollah. They started this violence.

That only works if you start the clock in 2006. Hezbollah was a response to the invasion of southern Lebanon in 1982: blame the Israelis. The Israelis invaded southern Lebanon in 1982 to get rid of the PLO: blame the PLO. Stop whenever you find who you want to blame.

I used to visit Kiryat Shemona (an Israeli town near the border with Lebanon) regularly. Many nights I stayed there I was woken up by the sound of machinegun fire and I once spent an afternoon with my head between my knees listening to Katyusha missiles landing nearby and hoping for the best (the shelter was full with children). My (Israeli) brother-in-law lost a leg during the last campaign in Lebanon. So I'm far from unsympathetic.

Still I'm disgusted with this action because it seems to have little military purpose. The Israelis are capable of very precise attacks, which makes it very difficult to escape the conclusion that they aren't just not attempting to spare civilian lives, but targetting civilians deliberately: a particularly brutal version of the collective punishments meted out in the West Bank.

I can even understand why. It is because this is different from 1982 when the PLO were guests in Lebanon, and not especially welcome guests. Hesbollah on the other hand are (mainly) Lebanese people and the political wing enjoys popular support throughout the country. But understanding is not condoning.

I suspect that in another 2 weeks, towards the end of which the US and UK will finally spout the balls to be critical, Israel will cease fire: apparently in deference to their allies' requests. Although I imagine the date, give or take a day or two, is already planned. At the end of it, hundreds of Lebanese will be dead, but apart from weakening Hesbollah, probably not even very severely, Israel will not have achieved anything at all except to appease the militant part of its own population.

[tahiti]

Originally Posted by crockett

When they allow in their govt a group of extremist whom do this kinda shit.. Well then feeling bad is about all they get. Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese govt and they are responsible for countless attacks against Israel.

So you can post innocent civilians pictures all day long but lets not forget both sides have had their own killed. Israel has been under attack from day one and they have a right to defend themselves.

Israel should protect there border tighly then. The pict of the bus is a terrorist attack in Israel done by (99% chance) a Palestinian terrorist, Leban is not Hezbollah. Get a life or get back to school or read a bit more about Linabon fact and figure: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications.../print/le.html
Hezbollah is a minority.

And yeah your right israel fightsback pretty well, anothe exemple:

http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3650791.stm

[Gerco]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

so hitler was justified in the holocaust because it was during a war ?

Justified? No. But the fact he is he was allowed to do it. No just by other countries, but buy his own people. Hitler was one man.. it took a nation to do the evils that transpired.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by crockett

Last time I checked Hezbollah was part of the Lebanese govt..

They have 14 seats out of a total of 128 in the National Assembly, and are not part of the dominant alliance. However, because of the demographic make-up of Lebanon, and tensions between the different groups, almost all parties are represented in the government.

[Queefcake]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

so hitler was justified in the holocaust because it was during a war ?

doesnt this guy sound like Hitler to you?
youtube.com/watch?v=GDiC6KVBZUk

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Gerco

Justified? No. But the fact he is he was allowed to do it. No just by other countries, but buy his own people. Hitler was one man.. it took a nation to do the evils that transpired.

so its justified when jews kill babies but when germans did it , it was bad..

just making sure i understand correctly..

p.s. why would you call it "evils" ? didnt you just say its ok to kill civilians during wartime

Originally Posted by Gerco

I hate to say it, but getting into the war in the first place removes any and all protection for ANYTHING living on either side

[seven]

Originally Posted by Libertine

Being a dominant military force, they can kill their opponents without having to resort to suicide attacks. Still, more Palestinian civilians (and Lebanese, now) get killed than Israeli civilians.

It's the "killing civilians" part of terrorism that makes it bad, right? Well, Israel does more of that than their opponents do. It just isn't called "terrorism".

well said. Also, people forget..

Lehi=Fighters for the Freedom of Israel (1940) regarded as terrorist gang by brits=
Hezbollah=Fighters for the Freedom of Lebanon (1982) regarded as terrorist group by israel/U.S.

Funny how history repeats itself

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

you do see israeli terrorists, they drop bombs on children and fire rockets into populated areas instead of suicide bombers..

No they let their Government handle it. They dont go all insurgent and call a jihad on another people. Appeasement doesnt help anyone here.

[Magix]

this is just fucked up