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Old 07-31-2006, 02:10 AM   #1
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Thehun question...

i was just wondering, why do 95% of the listings on thehun look like complete peices of shit? (the design)

i mean COMEON

your paying X,XXX$ to get in the top twenty and you cant be bothered to throw up a decent looking page?

the only reason i can think of why everyone has shitty layouts is either, their simply lazy...too busy or using a layout like that actually captures the attention of the surfer more because its not professional?
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:13 AM   #2
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thehun likes galleries like that, he dosnt like anything fancy, and i find basic converts, i just put color bg, banner on top pics then text link on bottom, when little april first came out i did 28 sales on my hun listing.
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nothing wrong with a simple gallery design...
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simple can be better for sales than a HQ state of the art (including coffe/tea) template
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nothing wrong with a simple gallery design...
right, there is nothing wrong with that

and it doesnt mean its going to decrease your sales

but with a nice design, that just might get you an extra 10% in sales, no?
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simple = good.

I think the only person that wants a graphically nice looking template is the webmaster - surfers want to beat themselves off over the content so don't give em enough to blow their load
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:22 AM   #7
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right, there is nothing wrong with that

and it doesnt mean its going to decrease your sales

but with a nice design, that just might get you an extra 10% in sales, no?
when you're at costco and they are offering free samples of cheesecake, do you care if the table has a paper table cloth or a velvet table cloth?
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:26 AM   #8
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but with a nice design, that just might get you an extra 10% in sales, no?
No, that's not a given. Especially with thehun traffic.
Actually, you probably won't even get listed at thehun if you have some fancy design for your gallery.
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when you're at costco and they are offering free samples of cheesecake, do you care if the table has a paper table cloth or a velvet table cloth?
Yes, I do.
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:53 AM   #13
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yeah I submitted my first ever gallery to the hun and it got posted... and gaaawd it was awful! Fuck knows why it was allowed on there..
But it made sales!
The traffic crashed my website too hahaha :/

I think the guy prefers to go with something a little different and the surfers are used to seeing basic pages throwing free porn at them.
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Old 07-31-2006, 03:53 AM   #14
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did you look at the hun site.

Its straight out of 1996. so the galleries should look like it too.
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right, there is nothing wrong with that

and it doesnt mean its going to decrease your sales

but with a nice design, that just might get you an extra 10% in sales, no?
No, only designers beleive that, or try to convince people to drum up business.
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:12 AM   #18
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when you're at costco and they are offering free samples of cheesecake, do you care if the table has a paper table cloth or a velvet table cloth?
Shemp, I'm going to frame that.

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Look at the big TGPs. By that I mean those with the traffic. 89.com, thehun, xnxx, pichunter, shemp and so on. You see a lot of galleries with banner - thumbs - textlink - 2257... Not saying you don't find some " designed" layouts, but for the most part they all seem to carry a lot of "simple" galleries.

I thought the fancy layouts would make my sites "sticky" and thus productivity would go up. When it comes to gallery design, spending hours on a gallery doesn't equal a better conversion rate. The verbiage and content seem to make more of the impact. It's that key to get the surfer to click to the tour that counts or decide to join before he or she gets there.

Couple other points. More traffic doesn't have to mean more sales. More trips to a tour doesn't have to mean more sales either. Trips to the tour does means you have a chance at a sale. Old galleries can work as well as new ones. I don't think worn-out galleries work through.

I also THINK that if a surfer is NOT buying within the first several clicks, he's just collecting free stuff to jerk off too? Still trying to figure if that is absolutely true as a generalization. A surfer may comeback a few or more times times before buying. Esp trues of cam and dating sites.
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Because you have these thoughts, you probably have to post 100 posts a day on GFY to make some money....
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An interesting exercise.

Go to Alexa and start looking at traffic details on the big or well known sites, even the legendary. Ask your self who is making the most with the traffic they have and why.
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ive always converted on simple templates.. if a surfer really wants to see more a simple text link is all they need
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most huge websites look like shit - there is a lesson in that - analyize and figure out why.
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everybody knows that thehun likes simple design of the galleries. so don't be upset.
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I don't know about you, but if someone can send me a hundred thousand hits in one day, I'll pretty much do whatever they want in terms of design.
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so, make shitty gallery and the hun would list it... hehe... :D
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Because surfers remember the guy that fucked a watermelon and where they saw it. This is what they talk to about their friends. Trust me. They dont talk about the css they saw on a particular gallery. And even more...they wont sign up because of this.
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right, there is nothing wrong with that

and it doesnt mean its going to decrease your sales

but with a nice design, that just might get you an extra 10% in sales, no?
Simple works better alot of the time because they load quicker with less graphics
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I find it funny that a young punk fresh to the business and without a clue would dare bitch at someone who has made a name for himself and STILL keeps his name up there.


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when you're at costco and they are offering free samples of cheesecake, do you care if the table has a paper table cloth or a velvet table cloth?
Great analogy Shemp.

Simple almost always sells better. The only reason people go for the extra fancy designs is becauseit attracts affilliates and new webmasters are amazed at them.

But, if you want sales, you will probably get more with a 100% html and pics/movies only gallery.
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alright guys, you win, ill be making shit galleries from now on
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The hun is simple yet they make millions........ The people that visit the adult site just want a clean site with no pop ups or nothing tricking them..... Thats what i learn...... Thats why i keep my sites simple and they convert....
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Old 07-31-2006, 12:21 PM   #39
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just concentrate on great content and a solid "text hook" to get the surfer to check out the tour...
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just concentrate on great content and a solid "text hook" to get the surfer to check out the tour...
thanks for the tips shemp, im going to apply for one of those submit accounts on your site soon
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DUH! Thehun it's all about fresh content...
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sometimes fancy designs distracts the potential customer. the surfer should be focused on the content
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The cliche's

"Keep it simple stupid"

I'm sure if people have the money to spend on Hun advertising, they've done the research on what converts best in the simple, versus the flashy rerun shit.

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I posted what I thought to be a shitty design and not only did it get listed right away, it actaully converted very well. Weird, but if it works, it works
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because surfers don't care about what it looks like, just how easily navigatable it is, and how the content it is

i NEVER hear of someone who isn't computer savvy come to me and say "HOLY SHIT, DID YOU SEE THE DESIGN OF WIMP.COM?!?! FUCKING AWESOME!!" but i did see "HOLY HELL, WIMP HAS ALOT OF GOOD VIDEOS!!"


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also the only one who cares about the LOOK of the site, is the webmasters...
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Because pro layouts aren't what his surfers like ... ;)
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right, there is nothing wrong with that

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but with a nice design, that just might get you an extra 10% in sales, no?
No, not necessarily. Tracking hosted galleries is one of the most important keys for programs because it helps find out which ones convert, obviously. But what the numbers show is odd because galleries you think would suck because they are uglier than anything convert better than a jazzy gallery. It also depends on where the galleries are going ... it's a game of playing with traffic and galleries. I know people that think after one gallery doing bad that thehun's traffic isn't worth it, that's not true ... gotta learn to work the traffic!
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