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				"Ramos = the new Grimshawn"
			 
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	He was run out of the industry a few years back. Ramos reminds me of him - More intersted in the party than work. Hmmmmmmmmmm.,  | 
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		 yo nothing wrong with the party as long as you take care of the biz 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 heh funny how many ppl here at GFY sucked up to him and kissed his ass  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 lensman is going to be guest referee, Pete KT from satan cash is the time keeper ring girls will be amy, lia, raven, vanilla, sunny, Boy ally and allie lindsey (cbt) will be master of ceremonies ring announcer 
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		 I remember GrimShawn. Great guy to party with. Well, it was fun until he started throwing furniture out of windows. The funny thing is he's been gone for years, and I can't remember who he worked for. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 There is one big difference, Grimmy is AWOL. If I knew where he was, he'd be served court papers right away. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 I haven't been following all the Ramos piss drama threads (I know, that's damn near impossible but I just don't click non biz threads).  Is it really that bad? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 But Grimshawn was a GREAT guy!  He never would have screwed anyone.  You're all just jealous haters. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Any possibility he's dead? 
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 I have his SSN, former bank account numbers, cell phone numbers (disconnected) and last 2 known residencial addresses among more info. WG 
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 Chances are from what my skip tracers say he's living outside of the USA. I'm surprised anyone would cut off everyone they know for that little sum of money in my opinion. WG 
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 Maybe he did something really bad and had to leave. 
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 If you could ever get a hold of him when he is outside of the US it would be either a coincidence or quite expensive but rest assured, one way or another he will leave a trace wherever he is - it's just a matter of time and if you pick it up   As for cutting ties... it's not that hard and there are some nice places to move to and disappear on this planet - if he left by plane with his US passport, there has to be a trace - maybe start looking there? Just an idea. Steve 
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 I have a pretty good idea he's living in Western Canada with his gf and child (yeah, weird what people can find). Unfortunately running her name against the skiptracers wouldn't be legal... WG 
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 stealing from people and depending on what type you stole it from can get you beat up or killed no matter what the amount. i know if it was me, he would at least have his legs or arms broken for stealing 10g. 
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 I'd like to think i'm a pretty flexible person, whatever it was, I was willing to be flexible in payment terms. It must have been absolutely devasting to run away from your problems like that. WG 
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 Since you're in CA and he is obviously in CA under his GF's name, is there no telephone-book, or a register of residence in case you have her name? A call or letter to the register of residence (thats what its called in germany, no idea what it is in CA) often does wonders... Anyways, good luck getting back what he owes you with interest... or anything at all 
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		 I have a pretty good feeling he is still here.  Different board name, but he's here. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Yeah, that's why I'm not spending any more to pursue it. If he shows up, great, if not, he better keep hiding. I'm not going to hire another skip tracer to keep searching. Chances are he's broke as fuck anyways. WG 
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		 50 maybe my first? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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