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Dagwolf · 05-23-2006, 11:40 PM

What's the fastest way to get yourself in trouble with Adwords?

studiocritic · 05-23-2006, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

What's the fastest way to get yourself in trouble with Adwords?

I have a collection of C&D's from trademark complaints (mainstream apparel).

short answer: i don't think there is any way. money talks with google.

bdld · 05-23-2006, 11:46 PM

what mainstream products do you have success with?

kuthi123 · 05-23-2006, 11:50 PM

what is the max bid for noobs? i went max bid $1 for penis enlargement spent $1000 and made only 1/2 of money only.And getting clicks for my ad also very tough for me.Any advise on these?

clickclickclick · 05-23-2006, 11:53 PM

give me ur list of words

shack · 05-24-2006, 12:00 AM

Should I mount my own 90 million dollar case against google?

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bdld

what mainstream products do you have success with?

lead generation - mortgages.

pain solution products

2HousePlague · 05-24-2006, 12:05 AM

How much are you spending per day now?

2hp

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kuthi123

what is the max bid for noobs? i went max bid $1 for penis enlargement spent $1000 and made only 1/2 of money only.And getting clicks for my ad also very tough for me.Any advise on these?

find 3-5 word keyphrases to get on

instead of [penis enlargement]

try

[get a bigger penis]

just an example..

work your maxbid backwards... if you think the site will convert 1:100, and you earn $50 per sale.. $50/100 = $0.50 maxbid to break even.

if you need to at least make 10% on your money, you can bid ~45 cents.

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

How much are you spending per day now?

2hp

probably about $3800-4300.

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shack

Should I mount my own 90 million dollar case against google?

yes, opt out of the class action suit so you can sue them later.

part of the settlement for the suit locks you into never being able to sue google again for anything relating to bad clicks.

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by clickclickclick

give me ur list of words

no.

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:08 AM

i'll answer some more.. i'm still bored..

fuzzylogic · 05-24-2006, 12:08 AM

how long does it take for adsense rep's to review/approve new sites/pages adsense code gets pasted on?

fuzzylogic · 05-24-2006, 12:08 AM

woops

lol

2HousePlague · 05-24-2006, 12:08 AM

May I post a ref link?

2hp

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic

how long does it take for adsense rep's to review/approve new sites/pages adsense code gets pasted on?

from my experience a lot of pages never get adsense review.. i'm not sure what triggers it, but i do know what IPs they come from.. i don't have them handy right now, server they're on is down for maintenance.. icq me tomorrow and i'll get you a list of google editorial IPs, then you can find out for yourself.

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

May I post a ref link?

2hp

by all means, spam away

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:10 AM

im not trying to sell anything (in this thread), im just bored and i've been talking to a few people about adwords tonight.. seems to be a hot topic

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:11 AM

i'll answer adsense questions too.. fire away

2HousePlague · 05-24-2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic

by all means, spam away

You suuuuuure --

2hp

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

You suuuuuure --

2hp

i've got much love for you, of course

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:14 AM

btw.. is there a hotkey for centering and coloring your posts, do you use roboform, or do you manually do all of that each time

2HousePlague · 05-24-2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic

i've got much love for you, of course

http://www.inlustro.com/a/MTA/

2hp

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

http://www.inlustro.com/a/MTA/

2hp

lol.. good pick, but unfortunately we had to make an emergency move thanks to a datacenter going bankrupt overnight..

fortunately we're with a REAL company now.. just installed our servers and we're sitting next to commission junction, linux.com, and one of the freebsd.org servers.

2HousePlague · 05-24-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic

lol.. good pick, but unfortunately we had to make an emergency move thanks to a datacenter going bankrupt overnight..

fortunately we're with a REAL company now.. just installed our servers and we're sitting next to commission junction, linux.com, and one of the freebsd.org servers.

Musta missed that email.

2hp

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

Musta missed that email.

2hp

s/email/icq, you did.. unfortunately it went down with about 20 minutes notice but we had it moved and back online pretty quickly (4 hours), but now there are some dns and routing issues (separately) so i couldn't get off an e-mail.

i did broadcast an icq to all the affils though, my apologies, i don't like relying on something unprofessional like icq for important business communications

2HousePlague · 05-24-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic

s/email/icq, you did.. unfortunately it went down with about 20 minutes notice but we had it moved and back online pretty quickly (4 hours), but now there are some dns and routing issues (separately) so i couldn't get off an e-mail.

i did broadcast an icq to all the affils though, my apologies, i don't like relying on something unprofessional like icq for important business communications

NP -- just lemme know where I should to, instead.

2hp

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

NP -- just lemme know where I should to, instead.

2hp

It'll be back up early tomorrow morning..

greenface · 05-24-2006, 12:31 AM

whats the min. bid per keyword?

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by greenface

whats the min. bid per keyword?

0.01 technically, but depending on your account/campaign/adgroup/keyword historical performance, it will be adjusted from 0.01 to $10.00.

The basic version is this:

If your ads historically get a high CTR, it'll be cheaper.

But it's much, much more complex than that.

AdWords sends Googlebot out now to spider the landing page, and it evaluates it for relevancy and quality.

Want to see a fun test?

Try running an ad on [home depot], in a new campaign. you'll get a huge minimum bid, $1-5.

Now, try making that same ad, but use homedepot.com for the display url, and destination url.

Voila 5 cent clicks. Course, you're sending them to homedepot. But there are ways to capitalize on this bug.

ztik · 05-24-2006, 12:39 AM

What site do you use for lead generation? What keywords, bids, ect? Hook it up

2HousePlague · 05-24-2006, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic

btw.. is there a hotkey for centering and coloring your posts, do you use roboform, or do you manually do all of that each time

Nah. Manual. Do the same thing 100+ times/day, it becomes like a twitch.

2hp

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ztik

What site do you use for lead generation? What keywords, bids, ect? Hook it up

would it be easier if i just gave you the login for my adwords manager account? and my cc?

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 12:55 AM

to answer the reasonable part of that though.. i develop my own conversion-optimized sites to capture leads, once i've struck a deal with someone to buy the leads for that niche.

a good one is vacation rentals.

[cityname vacation rental]

leads are worth $5-10, clicks cost 50 cents. my sites convert at 34% with a valid phone number.

Sloane · 05-24-2006, 12:56 AM

are you able to make most campaigns you start profitable, or is it still very hit and miss with adwords?

do you make more revenue from mainstream or adult?

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sloane

are you able to make most campaigns you start profitable, or is it still very hit and miss with adwords?

do you make more revenue from mainstream or adult?

mainstream by far.. just because i don't focus much on adult, presumably

adwords is hit and miss, no doubt.. it is entirely possible for me to start a campaign that i know will 100% be profitable, but very low volume..

the tricky parts are being able to make high volume campaigns profitable.

this goes back to the earlier post in this thread i made about using 3-5 word keyphrases, instead of your one-worders.

i.e.

if you sold headlights, don't advertise on headlights. advertise on model numbers, and [honda accord headlights], etc.

the latter method will have much, much less volume.. but will probably convert 10x better.

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 01:11 AM

i'll check this thread again in the morning, goodnight

lush_life · 05-24-2006, 01:31 AM

good read

sacX · 05-24-2006, 02:40 AM

do you disable search or content network?

studiocritic · 05-24-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sacX

do you disable search or content network?

this is a tricky question. i got in a war with google over not being able to exclude their shitty domain parking partners, and now they did something (i quote, "this is an exception, this is not our normal procedure") to my account to manually block them. so now, i leave the search network on.

the search network includes valuable traffic, like AOL, earthlink, etc. this is some of the highest converting consumer traffic on the web.

content network: go into campaign settings and enable content bidding. then content bid like 5-10 cents on your keywords.

keep in mind if these campaigns are adult, you'll not get any content impressions anyways. but search, you will.

sacX · 05-24-2006, 08:58 PM

interesting, i'm looking harder at some of the search network traffic. I've read that some people have complained about the lack of being able to block certain search partners and have had google acquiesce. Are there any search partners u really don't like? i've found oingo, and zapmeta to be sub-par.

studiocritic · 05-25-2006, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sacX

interesting, i'm looking harder at some of the search network traffic. I've read that some people have complained about the lack of being able to block certain search partners and have had google acquiesce. Are there any search partners u really don't like? i've found oingo, and zapmeta to be sub-par.

google blocked oingo for me, and refunded all my clicks that came from them.. ended up being almost 2k

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