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studiocritic 05-23-2006 11:30 PM

ask me anything about adwords - 30 minutes
 
go.
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Dagwolf 05-23-2006 11:40 PM

What's the fastest way to get yourself in trouble with Adwords?

studiocritic 05-23-2006 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf
What's the fastest way to get yourself in trouble with Adwords?

I have a collection of C&D's from trademark complaints (mainstream apparel).

short answer: i don't think there is any way. money talks with google.

bdld 05-23-2006 11:46 PM

what mainstream products do you have success with?

kuthi123 05-23-2006 11:50 PM

what is the max bid for noobs? i went max bid $1 for penis enlargement spent $1000 and made only 1/2 of money only.And getting clicks for my ad also very tough for me.Any advise on these?

clickclickclick 05-23-2006 11:53 PM

give me ur list of words

shack 05-24-2006 12:00 AM

Should I mount my own 90 million dollar case against google?

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld
what mainstream products do you have success with?

lead generation - mortgages.

pain solution products

2HousePlague 05-24-2006 12:05 AM

How much are you spending per day now?


2hp

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuthi123
what is the max bid for noobs? i went max bid $1 for penis enlargement spent $1000 and made only 1/2 of money only.And getting clicks for my ad also very tough for me.Any advise on these?

find 3-5 word keyphrases to get on

instead of [penis enlargement]

try

[get a bigger penis]

just an example..

work your maxbid backwards... if you think the site will convert 1:100, and you earn $50 per sale.. $50/100 = $0.50 maxbid to break even.

if you need to at least make 10% on your money, you can bid ~45 cents.

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
How much are you spending per day now?


2hp

probably about $3800-4300.

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shack
Should I mount my own 90 million dollar case against google?

yes, opt out of the class action suit so you can sue them later.

part of the settlement for the suit locks you into never being able to sue google again for anything relating to bad clicks.

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickclickclick
give me ur list of words

no.
:error

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:08 AM

i'll answer some more.. i'm still bored..

fuzzylogic 05-24-2006 12:08 AM

how long does it take for adsense rep's to review/approve new sites/pages adsense code gets pasted on?

fuzzylogic 05-24-2006 12:08 AM

woops


lol

2HousePlague 05-24-2006 12:08 AM

May I post a ref link?




2hp

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzylogic
how long does it take for adsense rep's to review/approve new sites/pages adsense code gets pasted on?

from my experience a lot of pages never get adsense review.. i'm not sure what triggers it, but i do know what IPs they come from.. i don't have them handy right now, server they're on is down for maintenance.. icq me tomorrow and i'll get you a list of google editorial IPs, then you can find out for yourself.

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
May I post a ref link?




2hp

by all means, spam away

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:10 AM

im not trying to sell anything (in this thread), im just bored and i've been talking to a few people about adwords tonight.. seems to be a hot topic

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:11 AM

i'll answer adsense questions too.. fire away

2HousePlague 05-24-2006 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studiocritic
by all means, spam away


You suuuuuure -- :winkwink:



2hp

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague



You suuuuuure -- :winkwink:



2hp

i've got much love for you, of course :1orglaugh

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:14 AM

btw.. is there a hotkey for centering and coloring your posts, do you use roboform, or do you manually do all of that each time :)

2HousePlague 05-24-2006 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studiocritic
i've got much love for you, of course :1orglaugh


http://www.inlustro.com/a/MTA/






2hp

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

lol.. good pick, but unfortunately we had to make an emergency move thanks to a datacenter going bankrupt overnight..

fortunately we're with a REAL company now.. just installed our servers and we're sitting next to commission junction, linux.com, and one of the freebsd.org servers.

2HousePlague 05-24-2006 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studiocritic
lol.. good pick, but unfortunately we had to make an emergency move thanks to a datacenter going bankrupt overnight..

fortunately we're with a REAL company now.. just installed our servers and we're sitting next to commission junction, linux.com, and one of the freebsd.org servers.

Musta missed that email.




2hp

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague


Musta missed that email.




2hp

s/email/icq, you did.. unfortunately it went down with about 20 minutes notice but we had it moved and back online pretty quickly (4 hours), but now there are some dns and routing issues (separately) so i couldn't get off an e-mail.

i did broadcast an icq to all the affils though, my apologies, i don't like relying on something unprofessional like icq for important business communications :)

2HousePlague 05-24-2006 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studiocritic
s/email/icq, you did.. unfortunately it went down with about 20 minutes notice but we had it moved and back online pretty quickly (4 hours), but now there are some dns and routing issues (separately) so i couldn't get off an e-mail.

i did broadcast an icq to all the affils though, my apologies, i don't like relying on something unprofessional like icq for important business communications :)


NP -- just lemme know where I should to, instead.



2hp

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague



NP -- just lemme know where I should to, instead.



2hp

It'll be back up early tomorrow morning..

greenface 05-24-2006 12:31 AM

whats the min. bid per keyword?

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenface
whats the min. bid per keyword?

0.01 technically, but depending on your account/campaign/adgroup/keyword historical performance, it will be adjusted from 0.01 to $10.00.

The basic version is this:

If your ads historically get a high CTR, it'll be cheaper.

But it's much, much more complex than that.

AdWords sends Googlebot out now to spider the landing page, and it evaluates it for relevancy and quality.

Want to see a fun test?

Try running an ad on [home depot], in a new campaign. you'll get a huge minimum bid, $1-5.

Now, try making that same ad, but use homedepot.com for the display url, and destination url.

Voila 5 cent clicks. Course, you're sending them to homedepot. But there are ways to capitalize on this bug.

ztik 05-24-2006 12:39 AM

What site do you use for lead generation? What keywords, bids, ect? Hook it up :)

2HousePlague 05-24-2006 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studiocritic
btw.. is there a hotkey for centering and coloring your posts, do you use roboform, or do you manually do all of that each time :)

Nah. Manual. Do the same thing 100+ times/day, it becomes like a twitch.


2hp

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ztik
What site do you use for lead generation? What keywords, bids, ect? Hook it up :)

would it be easier if i just gave you the login for my adwords manager account? and my cc?

studiocritic 05-24-2006 12:55 AM

to answer the reasonable part of that though.. i develop my own conversion-optimized sites to capture leads, once i've struck a deal with someone to buy the leads for that niche.

a good one is vacation rentals.

[cityname vacation rental]

leads are worth $5-10, clicks cost 50 cents. my sites convert at 34% with a valid phone number.

Sloane 05-24-2006 12:56 AM

are you able to make most campaigns you start profitable, or is it still very hit and miss with adwords?

do you make more revenue from mainstream or adult?

studiocritic 05-24-2006 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sloane
are you able to make most campaigns you start profitable, or is it still very hit and miss with adwords?

do you make more revenue from mainstream or adult?

mainstream by far.. just because i don't focus much on adult, presumably

adwords is hit and miss, no doubt.. it is entirely possible for me to start a campaign that i know will 100% be profitable, but very low volume..

the tricky parts are being able to make high volume campaigns profitable.

this goes back to the earlier post in this thread i made about using 3-5 word keyphrases, instead of your one-worders.

i.e.

if you sold headlights, don't advertise on headlights. advertise on model numbers, and [honda accord headlights], etc.

the latter method will have much, much less volume.. but will probably convert 10x better.

studiocritic 05-24-2006 01:11 AM

i'll check this thread again in the morning, goodnight

lush_life 05-24-2006 01:31 AM

good read

sacX 05-24-2006 02:40 AM

do you disable search or content network?

studiocritic 05-24-2006 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacX
do you disable search or content network?

this is a tricky question. i got in a war with google over not being able to exclude their shitty domain parking partners, and now they did something (i quote, "this is an exception, this is not our normal procedure") to my account to manually block them. so now, i leave the search network on.

the search network includes valuable traffic, like AOL, earthlink, etc. this is some of the highest converting consumer traffic on the web.

content network: go into campaign settings and enable content bidding. then content bid like 5-10 cents on your keywords.

keep in mind if these campaigns are adult, you'll not get any content impressions anyways. but search, you will.

sacX 05-24-2006 08:58 PM

interesting, i'm looking harder at some of the search network traffic. I've read that some people have complained about the lack of being able to block certain search partners and have had google acquiesce. Are there any search partners u really don't like? i've found oingo, and zapmeta to be sub-par.

studiocritic 05-25-2006 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sacX
interesting, i'm looking harder at some of the search network traffic. I've read that some people have complained about the lack of being able to block certain search partners and have had google acquiesce. Are there any search partners u really don't like? i've found oingo, and zapmeta to be sub-par.

google blocked oingo for me, and refunded all my clicks that came from them.. ended up being almost 2k


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