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  • studiocritic
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    • Jun 2005
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    #1

    ask me anything about adwords - 30 minutes

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  • Dagwolf
    President of Canada
    • Sep 2003
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    #2
    What's the fastest way to get yourself in trouble with Adwords?
    Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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    • studiocritic
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      • Jun 2005
      • 2442

      #3
      Originally posted by Dagwolf
      What's the fastest way to get yourself in trouble with Adwords?
      I have a collection of C&D's from trademark complaints (mainstream apparel).

      short answer: i don't think there is any way. money talks with google.
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      • bdld
        $100,000
        • Dec 2001
        • 11452

        #4
        what mainstream products do you have success with?

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        • kuthi123
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2005
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          #5
          what is the max bid for noobs? i went max bid $1 for penis enlargement spent $1000 and made only 1/2 of money only.And getting clicks for my ad also very tough for me.Any advise on these?

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          • clickclickclick
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2005
            • 1227

            #6
            give me ur list of words
            if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

            p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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            • shack
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              • Oct 2004
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              #7
              Should I mount my own 90 million dollar case against google?

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              • studiocritic
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                #8
                Originally posted by bdld
                what mainstream products do you have success with?
                lead generation - mortgages.

                pain solution products
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                • 2HousePlague
                  CURATOR
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 14572

                  #9
                  How much are you spending per day now?



                  2hp
                  tada!

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                  • studiocritic
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by kuthi123
                    what is the max bid for noobs? i went max bid $1 for penis enlargement spent $1000 and made only 1/2 of money only.And getting clicks for my ad also very tough for me.Any advise on these?
                    find 3-5 word keyphrases to get on

                    instead of [penis enlargement]

                    try

                    [get a bigger penis]

                    just an example..

                    work your maxbid backwards... if you think the site will convert 1:100, and you earn $50 per sale.. $50/100 = $0.50 maxbid to break even.

                    if you need to at least make 10% on your money, you can bid ~45 cents.
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                    • studiocritic
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by 2HousePlague
                      How much are you spending per day now?



                      2hp
                      probably about $3800-4300.
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                      • studiocritic
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2005
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by shack
                        Should I mount my own 90 million dollar case against google?
                        yes, opt out of the class action suit so you can sue them later.

                        part of the settlement for the suit locks you into never being able to sue google again for anything relating to bad clicks.
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                        • studiocritic
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by clickclickclick
                          give me ur list of words
                          no.
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                          • studiocritic
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                            #14
                            i'll answer some more.. i'm still bored..
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                            • fuzzylogic
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                              • Jun 2004
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                              #15
                              how long does it take for adsense rep's to review/approve new sites/pages adsense code gets pasted on?

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                              • fuzzylogic
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                                • Jun 2004
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                                #16
                                woops


                                lol

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                                • 2HousePlague
                                  CURATOR
                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 14572

                                  #17
                                  May I post a ref link?





                                  2hp
                                  tada!

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                                  • studiocritic
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by fuzzylogic
                                    how long does it take for adsense rep's to review/approve new sites/pages adsense code gets pasted on?
                                    from my experience a lot of pages never get adsense review.. i'm not sure what triggers it, but i do know what IPs they come from.. i don't have them handy right now, server they're on is down for maintenance.. icq me tomorrow and i'll get you a list of google editorial IPs, then you can find out for yourself.
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                                    • studiocritic
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 2HousePlague
                                      May I post a ref link?





                                      2hp
                                      by all means, spam away
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                                      • studiocritic
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                                        • Jun 2005
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                                        #20
                                        im not trying to sell anything (in this thread), im just bored and i've been talking to a few people about adwords tonight.. seems to be a hot topic
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                                        • studiocritic
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                                          #21
                                          i'll answer adsense questions too.. fire away
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                                          • 2HousePlague
                                            CURATOR
                                            • Jul 2004
                                            • 14572

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by studiocritic
                                            by all means, spam away

                                            You suuuuuure --




                                            2hp
                                            tada!

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                                            • studiocritic
                                              Confirmed User
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by 2HousePlague



                                              You suuuuuure --




                                              2hp
                                              i've got much love for you, of course
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                                              • studiocritic
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                                                #24
                                                btw.. is there a hotkey for centering and coloring your posts, do you use roboform, or do you manually do all of that each time
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                                                • 2HousePlague
                                                  CURATOR
                                                  • Jul 2004
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by studiocritic
                                                  i've got much love for you, of course

                                                  http://www.inlustro.com/a/MTA/







                                                  2hp
                                                  tada!

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                                                  • studiocritic
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by 2HousePlague
                                                    lol.. good pick, but unfortunately we had to make an emergency move thanks to a datacenter going bankrupt overnight..

                                                    fortunately we're with a REAL company now.. just installed our servers and we're sitting next to commission junction, linux.com, and one of the freebsd.org servers.
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                                                    • 2HousePlague
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                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                      • 14572

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by studiocritic
                                                      lol.. good pick, but unfortunately we had to make an emergency move thanks to a datacenter going bankrupt overnight..

                                                      fortunately we're with a REAL company now.. just installed our servers and we're sitting next to commission junction, linux.com, and one of the freebsd.org servers.
                                                      Musta missed that email.





                                                      2hp
                                                      tada!

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                                                      • studiocritic
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by 2HousePlague


                                                        Musta missed that email.





                                                        2hp
                                                        s/email/icq, you did.. unfortunately it went down with about 20 minutes notice but we had it moved and back online pretty quickly (4 hours), but now there are some dns and routing issues (separately) so i couldn't get off an e-mail.

                                                        i did broadcast an icq to all the affils though, my apologies, i don't like relying on something unprofessional like icq for important business communications
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                                                        • 2HousePlague
                                                          CURATOR
                                                          • Jul 2004
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by studiocritic
                                                          s/email/icq, you did.. unfortunately it went down with about 20 minutes notice but we had it moved and back online pretty quickly (4 hours), but now there are some dns and routing issues (separately) so i couldn't get off an e-mail.

                                                          i did broadcast an icq to all the affils though, my apologies, i don't like relying on something unprofessional like icq for important business communications

                                                          NP -- just lemme know where I should to, instead.




                                                          2hp
                                                          tada!

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                                                          • studiocritic
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by 2HousePlague



                                                            NP -- just lemme know where I should to, instead.




                                                            2hp
                                                            It'll be back up early tomorrow morning..
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                                                            • greenface
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              whats the min. bid per keyword?

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                                                              • studiocritic
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by greenface
                                                                whats the min. bid per keyword?
                                                                0.01 technically, but depending on your account/campaign/adgroup/keyword historical performance, it will be adjusted from 0.01 to $10.00.

                                                                The basic version is this:

                                                                If your ads historically get a high CTR, it'll be cheaper.

                                                                But it's much, much more complex than that.

                                                                AdWords sends Googlebot out now to spider the landing page, and it evaluates it for relevancy and quality.

                                                                Want to see a fun test?

                                                                Try running an ad on [home depot], in a new campaign. you'll get a huge minimum bid, $1-5.

                                                                Now, try making that same ad, but use homedepot.com for the display url, and destination url.

                                                                Voila 5 cent clicks. Course, you're sending them to homedepot. But there are ways to capitalize on this bug.
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                                                                • ztik
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                                                                  • Aug 2001
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  What site do you use for lead generation? What keywords, bids, ect? Hook it up
                                                                  .

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                                                                  • 2HousePlague
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                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                    • 14572

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by studiocritic
                                                                    btw.. is there a hotkey for centering and coloring your posts, do you use roboform, or do you manually do all of that each time
                                                                    Nah. Manual. Do the same thing 100+ times/day, it becomes like a twitch.



                                                                    2hp
                                                                    tada!

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                                                                    • studiocritic
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ztik
                                                                      What site do you use for lead generation? What keywords, bids, ect? Hook it up
                                                                      would it be easier if i just gave you the login for my adwords manager account? and my cc?
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                                                                      • studiocritic
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        to answer the reasonable part of that though.. i develop my own conversion-optimized sites to capture leads, once i've struck a deal with someone to buy the leads for that niche.

                                                                        a good one is vacation rentals.

                                                                        [cityname vacation rental]

                                                                        leads are worth $5-10, clicks cost 50 cents. my sites convert at 34% with a valid phone number.
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                                                                        • Sloane
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                                                                          • Feb 2001
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          are you able to make most campaigns you start profitable, or is it still very hit and miss with adwords?

                                                                          do you make more revenue from mainstream or adult?

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                                                                          • studiocritic
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Sloane
                                                                            are you able to make most campaigns you start profitable, or is it still very hit and miss with adwords?

                                                                            do you make more revenue from mainstream or adult?
                                                                            mainstream by far.. just because i don't focus much on adult, presumably

                                                                            adwords is hit and miss, no doubt.. it is entirely possible for me to start a campaign that i know will 100% be profitable, but very low volume..

                                                                            the tricky parts are being able to make high volume campaigns profitable.

                                                                            this goes back to the earlier post in this thread i made about using 3-5 word keyphrases, instead of your one-worders.

                                                                            i.e.

                                                                            if you sold headlights, don't advertise on headlights. advertise on model numbers, and [honda accord headlights], etc.

                                                                            the latter method will have much, much less volume.. but will probably convert 10x better.
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                                                                            • studiocritic
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              i'll check this thread again in the morning, goodnight
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                                                                              • lush_life
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                good read

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                                                                                • sacX
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  do you disable search or content network?
                                                                                  Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                                                  • studiocritic
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by sacX
                                                                                    do you disable search or content network?
                                                                                    this is a tricky question. i got in a war with google over not being able to exclude their shitty domain parking partners, and now they did something (i quote, "this is an exception, this is not our normal procedure") to my account to manually block them. so now, i leave the search network on.

                                                                                    the search network includes valuable traffic, like AOL, earthlink, etc. this is some of the highest converting consumer traffic on the web.

                                                                                    content network: go into campaign settings and enable content bidding. then content bid like 5-10 cents on your keywords.

                                                                                    keep in mind if these campaigns are adult, you'll not get any content impressions anyways. but search, you will.
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                                                                                    • sacX
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                                                                                      interesting, i'm looking harder at some of the search network traffic. I've read that some people have complained about the lack of being able to block certain search partners and have had google acquiesce. Are there any search partners u really don't like? i've found oingo, and zapmeta to be sub-par.
                                                                                      Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                                                      • studiocritic
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by sacX
                                                                                        interesting, i'm looking harder at some of the search network traffic. I've read that some people have complained about the lack of being able to block certain search partners and have had google acquiesce. Are there any search partners u really don't like? i've found oingo, and zapmeta to be sub-par.
                                                                                        google blocked oingo for me, and refunded all my clicks that came from them.. ended up being almost 2k
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