Originally Posted by WarChild

So you're disputing the Ground Effect then? It's your theory that a wing within a wing's length of the ground is less effecient and therefor generates less lift? Strangely enough, pilots of the world disagree.

Again, a wing within a wing's length of the ground is MORE effecient, and generates MORE lift.

If you can't even get basic scientific principles straight, what makes you so qualified to debunk 9/11?

Originally Posted by WarChild

You realize the cost of war and reconstruction for outweighs the cost of simply buying the equivalent crude on the open market, right? I did the calculation a few months back in a post, but esentially of Iraq was to pump out crude at it's MAXIUM PRE Gulf War 1 levels, it would take something like 25 years to offset the cost of war in oil. Saying that this war was about "stealing oil" is just the extreme left version of the right's "WMD experience". Try not to be so simple, Simon.

Clearly the war in Iraq was mostly about getting a foot hold in the middle east. Freedom to run operations at will. It's about empire building, and the whole nine yards. Do you think an explosion at the Pentagon was necessary to lead up that war? The fact is that MOST people are stupid. Especially when you get them together in large groups. Americans, Canadians, Russians, Germans, etc etc. It's easy for the powerful to lead the masses, because the masses are stupid.

Your missile theory is simly that, a theory. No credible evidence backs it up. While experts continue to tell us that yes a plane would cause that sort of damage, etc etc, Internet retards here and there tell us differently. It should be a no brainer as to who's word to believe if like most of us you don't have a degree in advanced physics or aero dynamics.

Originally Posted by CheeseFrog

What the...??? Where did you read that the engines weren't found? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Scootermuze

Show me where they found 2 engines.. the size of those on a 757......

Originally Posted by directfiesta

No, it doesn't work this way anymore in AmeriKa ...

YOU have to prove that they are not there, just like the WMD ... Get on with the program .

Originally Posted by r-c-e

Warblog: A blog that primarily deals with war. Filled with whiny blow hards who are fixated on their stubborn ideas and conspiracy theories. For example, there are countless hours pissed away by conspiracy theorists who think the WTC towers were demolished by bombs planted by the government. These armchair engineers write endlessly about how the physics of the collapse was impossible, how the temperature wasn't hot enough to melt steel, and how the planes were carrying missiles. Of course, the one thing they don't postulate is a REASON.

My personal favorite warblog was one that had a flash animation with people who were quoted as saying "it didn't sound like a plane to me... it sounded like a missile." Thank you Joe Nobody for giving me your expert opinion on what missile sounds like, because gas station superintendents are usually the best people to ask about the sonic signature of ballistic missile thrust.

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Originally Posted by CheeseFrog

Besides, the government had no motive to strike the Pentagon. The WTC was already hit.

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

In 1993 when the WTC was originally attacked America got over it pretty quick. They repaired the damage and life went on to the point that nobody gave a damn anymore that it even happened.

Imagine a scenario where the only 9/11 attack was on the WTC, and the WTC did not collapse. They could have repaired the upper floors and like 1993, life would have went on. It wouldn't have been enough to garner support for YEARS of war.

Assuming there was a conspiracy and that it wasn't predicted that the WTC would collapse, the Flight 93 and Pentagon attacks would have been an insurance policy that America would be in more of an outrage than they were in 1993.

Originally Posted by yota71

We will NEVER EVER EVER know the truth. The people that do will die with it...

Originally Posted by reynold

:( that's what breaks every americans heart.

Originally Posted by Phoenix

some of these hijackers are still alive and well...lol

Originally Posted by dv2

Hey believer's...would the U.S. government lie about anything at all?
Have they lied in the past few years about anything?
Does 1 large modern building implode into itself when a plane crashes into it? Does antoher one?
Has any superpower ever really been wrong?
Some people can see a boeing 757 in that video somehow and some people can't.
Maybe it's Iran? Let's wait and see who the superpower tells us it is and let's roll. It's unpatriotic and down right un-american to doubt one's own superpower.