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Pleasurepays 05-17-2006 08:34 AM

i guess the best thing about being a conspiracy nut is that you can summarily dismiss every fact and every explanation

dv2 05-17-2006 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Plenty. And plenty of other evidence of a plane hitting the building.

Why is it not possible to see what the hell it is that is hitting that building??

Why would I even think there is a boeing 757 in that footage?

Because someone said so?
:helpme

Dirty F 05-17-2006 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix
you mean the engine parts that the makers of the airplanes said in no way possible did they come from a 757

you mean those parts?

the ones that plane manufacturer said were not from that plane?

those are the parts you are talking about right?

you are so informed...lets all bow down to you


This coming from a person who gets all his info from conspiracy sites :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Phoenix, you have proven more than once that you are a total fucking idiot and people laugh in your face with your conspiracy nonsense.

Want me to explain everyone again about your hole in the wall theory, how your whole conspiracy (and 1000's of other people) was based on that? And how a simple picture viewable on many sites, out in the open, proved you wrong.

And this will happen again and again because you get your info from idiots who ignore facts and truth because it would mess up their idiot theories. They need gullible weak minds like you to jerk off to it.

Dirty F 05-17-2006 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix
you mean the engine parts that the makers of the airplanes said in no way possible did they come from a 757

you mean those parts?

the ones that plane manufacturer said were not from that plane?

those are the parts you are talking about right?

you are so informed...lets all bow down to you


So lets see.

They fired a painted missile a few feet off the ground from a few miles away. Then when it hit the building they planted some plane pieces and then they made up a story about a 757 and 60 people missing who infact were all sitting at home watching tv.

Is that about right?

EdgeXXX 05-17-2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix


Why do the first 2 frames in your gif both register the time as 17:37:19?

ContentSHOOTER 05-17-2006 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
I already posted plenty of pics of plane rubble, wheels, engines etc. Search gfy or the interwebs. Its no secret. It can be found all over the place you idiot.

Now go fuck Phoenix' ass, he likes that.

You are with out a doubt the biggest piece of shit on this board Franck NOW FUCK OFF you little shit stain:321GFY

Phoenix 05-17-2006 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX
Why do the first 2 frames in your gif both register the time as 17:37:19?


it also says september 12th for some reason

Phoenix 05-17-2006 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
So lets see.

They fired a painted missile a few feet off the ground from a few miles away. Then when it hit the building they planted some plane pieces and then they made up a story about a 757 and 60 people missing who infact were all sitting at home watching tv.

Is that about right?


yes that is about right

call me an idiot all you want franckfurter....i dont care what you think

Dirty F 05-17-2006 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix
yes that is about right


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Here let me quote is again so everyone can read what a TOTAL NUTJOB you are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix
yes that is about right

Holy shit!!!

If you had 10 posts under your name i would swear you were a character.

Jackson Mahoney 05-17-2006 08:43 AM

Quote:

i am just amazed that the exact same people will rightfully argue that bush is one of the dumbest human beings on the planet... simultaneously argue that he is an absolute genius pulling off such a massive plan to stage 9/11... and no ones on to him yet except 7 people wearing tinfoil hats and one french guy.

If you have you been watching this season of 24, you'd know the President is completely capable of that! :winkwink:

Dirty F 05-17-2006 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ContentSHOOTER
You are with out a doubt the biggest piece of shit on this board Franck NOW FUCK OFF you little shit stain:321GFY

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fuck off faggot :1orglaugh

Phoenix is waiting for you. he wants you to jerk off his cock while reading conspiracy sites. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

dynastoned 05-17-2006 08:45 AM

yeah i don't know anymore i just read up on it. the pentagon is 77ft tall so that camera angle is obviously very decieving. in scale from the video the plane could be 25 ft tall no problem so it very well could be a 757. and the video just has a bad angle.

Pete-KT 05-17-2006 08:46 AM

9-11 was a good way for Bush to get into Iraq thats all there is to it

Phoenix 05-17-2006 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Here let me quote is again so everyone can read what a TOTAL NUTJOB you are.



Holy shit!!!

If you had 10 posts under your name i would swear you were a character.


you make my balls itch...im going to go do some work

but just so you know...you are a pussy

insanity is something you should look up...i mean refusing to see what is on front of your face must be close to the definition

keep holding your blankie and keep your head in the sand

no need for you to worry you are dutch

ContentSHOOTER 05-17-2006 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fuck off faggot :1orglaugh

Phoenix is waiting for you. he wants you to jerk off his cock while reading conspiracy sites. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


The difference between you and Phoenix is that he has a BRAIN, son you are running on empty:321GFY

directfiesta 05-17-2006 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
This coming from a person who gets all his info from conspiracy sites :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Phoenix, you have proven more than once that you are a total fucking idiot and people laugh in your face with your conspiracy nonsense.

Want me to explain everyone again about your hole in the wall theory, how your whole conspiracy (and 1000's of other people) was based on that? And how a simple picture viewable on many sites, out in the open, proved you wrong.

And this will happen again and again because you get your info from idiots who ignore facts and truth because it would mess up their idiot theories. They need gullible weak minds like you to jerk off to it.


do yourself a favor : Shut the fuck up ... you will look smarter....

In London subway, they had the pictures of the " terrorists" down to the lettering on their tshirts...

In Boston, on 9-11, they have numerous pictures of the " terrorists " .
In Cops on Fox, they always have the footage of the crime, from an ATM camera, or street camera, or store camera ... They ALWAYS do ...

But , for the Pentagon, one of the most if not the most important building in the USA , they have what : 5 fucking frames that took 4 years to release ....

As the Donald says:

" All back to the boardroom, someone will be fired "

:2 cents:

MrKinkade 05-17-2006 08:49 AM

IF a 757 doesn't have enough "lift" to stay off the ground by ten feet obviously you havent flown in a plane the plane can stay 10 feet off the ground for a few minutes before touching down depending on the angle it comes in at... explain to ne how a missle shot at ground level has enough "lift" to stay 10 feet off the ground from where its fired from???

directfiesta 05-17-2006 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete-KT
9-11 was a good way for Bush to get into Iraq thats all there is to it

and into your homes ...

OzMan 05-17-2006 08:54 AM

Let's assume that white thing in the video that looks about ten feet long and a foot wide is actually a commercial airliner.

How does a pilot, with 50 years experience or one month's experience manage to fly it perfectly parallel to the ground, five foot above the ground, while travelling at several hundred miles an hour without hitting anything else on the way in?

If it was a terrorist flying a plane why didn't it fly in at a high angle and hit somewhere in the middle of the building?

Dirty F 05-17-2006 08:57 AM

http://keyholepublishing.com/pentagon-hole.jpg

Look everybody.

This was the biggest part of Phoenix his conspiracy. A hole in the OTHER side of building caused by the landing gear. But he found it on some nutjob site and it claimed that was the hole where the plane entered. And ofcourse its way too small for that. Ofcourse the retard that he is he immediatly believed it, despite the fact that the wall is totally different than the front side of the Pentagon.

So ofcourse he was proven wrong but that doesnt stop him. He made a total fool of himself by screaming and yelling that was the hole of impact. Still he goes on and on. Tomorrow some 16 yr old kid makes a website claiming something else and as long as it has conspiracy in the title Phoenix will believe it. No matter how retarded it may sound :1orglaugh

Sorry Phoenix, i didnt want to bring the hole thing up again because it makes you look even more stupid but i want to show people who were dealing with here.

Phoenix 05-17-2006 08:58 AM

here is a clear pic of the plane for franck

look cloesly

http://luan.blogspot.com/uploaded_im...eye-739557.gif

dv2 05-17-2006 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
i am just amazed that the exact same people will rightfully argue that bush is one of the dumbest human beings on the planet... simultaneously argue that he is an absolute genius pulling off such a massive plan to stage 9/11... and no ones on to him yet except 7 people wearing tinfoil hats and one french guy.

I don't know who the hell thinks that idiot was behind 9-11.

He just happened to be the ass that was president when this shit went down.
Did he play a role as the useless, we are under attack and you should be very afraid puppet? Maybe

Dirty F 05-17-2006 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
http://keyholepublishing.com/pentagon-hole.jpg

Look everybody.

This was the biggest part of Phoenix his conspiracy. A hole in the OTHER side of building caused by the landing gear. But he found it on some nutjob site and it claimed that was the hole where the plane entered. And ofcourse its way too small for that. Ofcourse the retard that he is he immediatly believed it, despite the fact that the wall is totally different than the front side of the Pentagon.

So ofcourse he was proven wrong but that doesnt stop him. He made a total fool of himself by screaming and yelling that was the hole of impact. Still he goes on and on. Tomorrow some 16 yr old kid makes a website claiming something else and as long as it has conspiracy in the title Phoenix will believe it. No matter how retarded it may sound :1orglaugh

Sorry Phoenix, i didnt want to bring the hole thing up again because it makes you look even more stupid but i want to show people who were dealing with here.


Can you believe that there are 100's of sites based on that pic. A pic from the OTHER side of wall/building. And 100's of sites making up huge stories based on that pic claiming its a missile hole :1orglaugh

Conpiracy idiots have to be some of dumbest people on the internet.

kenny 05-17-2006 09:04 AM

Here are some people on the take:



http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html

lol

directfiesta 05-17-2006 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

If it was a terrorist flying a plane why didn't it fly in at a high angle and hit somewhere in the middle of the building?

I don't know how to fly a plane ... But if I wanted to cause damage to the Pentagon, I would have stayed straight & steady till I am to be OVER it, then nose dive in it....

This low flying shit is stupid on his part, because a slight movement and he digs the soil instead of the building ...

But I am not a pilot, he was .... :winkwink:

kenny 05-17-2006 09:06 AM

well..

If I was a pilot I wouldn't fly the plane into a building

but thats just me

Dirty F 05-17-2006 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny
Here are some people on the take:



http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html

lol

Phoenix just said there was only ONE witness and he had a heart attack. :1orglaugh

Now there are suddenly dozens of witnesses?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

jacked 05-17-2006 09:11 AM

watch this video, http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=loose+change

check out this video it's been around for a while but they make a lot of valid points and the footage the government are claiming that was being held because it was evidence in the mosaui cause is bullshit it's been on the web forever now...

KRL 05-17-2006 09:15 AM

I think you have to put speed into perspective here. If you've ever seen a really nasty car crash, where the car was going super fast, there's not much left as a single structure.

Now you figure a fully fueled jet going full speed at over 500 MPH.

Do the physics. The energy of that mass at that velocity going into a heavily reinforced structure like the Pentagon will completely disintegrate quite compactly.

WDchris 05-17-2006 09:16 AM

i'm not buying it.

EdgeXXX 05-17-2006 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix
here is a clear pic of the plane for franck

look cloesly

http://luan.blogspot.com/uploaded_im...eye-739557.gif


Is it supposed to be a fish or a shark?

jacked 05-17-2006 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacked
watch this video, http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=loose+change

check out this video it's been around for a while but they make a lot of valid points and the footage the government are claiming that was being held because it was evidence in the mosaui cause is bullshit it's been on the web forever now...


watch teh video it'll answer some of your questions

Phoenix 05-17-2006 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX
Is it supposed to be a fish or a shark?


looks like a shark to me...but you cant see very clearly

d00t 05-17-2006 09:18 AM

look at the angle of attack... its clear that is coming in very flat... proof is in the way the smoke rises up.

obviously the plane is going wayyyy beyond its maximum indicated airspeed to avoid being seen on every camera. The max i can get a 757 up to in flight simulator is ~750 knots/hour and thats nose diving from 48,000 (service ceiling) feet, directly down with full power on.

The plane would need to be travelling much faster than this speed to avoid the camera snapshot delay.

Even then... at that speed there is wreckage.
Frank.. I want to see some of these "pics all over the net" of it :)

Dirty F 05-17-2006 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
I think you have to put speed into perspective here. If you've ever seen a really nasty car crash, where the car was going super fast, there's not much left as a single structure.

Now you figure a fully fueled jet going full speed at over 500 MPH.

Do the physics. The energy of that mass at that velocity going into a heavily reinforced structure like the Pentagon will completely disintegrate quite compactly.

Discovery has a nice docu on it. They made a 3d computer animation of the crash and it very clearly shows how a plane indeed almost completely disintegrates hitting a building like the Pentagon.

kenny 05-17-2006 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
I think you have to put speed into perspective here. If you've ever seen a really nasty car crash, where the car was going super fast, there's not much left as a single structure.

Now you figure a fully fueled jet going full speed at over 500 MPH.

Do the physics. The energy of that mass at that velocity going into a heavily reinforced structure like the Pentagon will completely disintegrate quite compactly.


Not to mention that on the same day two other planes happen to crash into some buildings too


:winkwink:

tranza 05-17-2006 09:20 AM

I was expecting more from such a big plane too.

Phoenix 05-17-2006 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00t
look at the angle of attack... its clear that is coming in very flat... proof is in the way the smoke rises up.

obviously the plane is going wayyyy beyond its maximum indicated airspeed to avoid being seen on every camera. The max i can get a 757 up to in flight simulator is ~750 knots/hour and thats nose diving from 48,000 (service ceiling) feet, directly down with full power on.

The plane would need to be travelling much faster than this speed to avoid the camera snapshot delay.

Even then... at that speed there is wreckage.
Frank.. I want to see some of these "pics all over the net" of it :)

yes...he will show you some pics of some wreckage

trouble is the maker of the plane and th amker of th engine etc etc..all say that the parts shown were most certainly not from a boeing 757

close but no cigar

WDchris 05-17-2006 09:22 AM

i'm not buying it.

EdgeXXX 05-17-2006 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix
looks like a shark to me...but you cant see very clearly

If you blow it up 2x you can see it better, still can't tell though.


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