WOOWWO 700! :)

I'll add a 3 Month Vhosting package to the prize list too


from www.dedicatedonly.com

I love the way all these graphic designers are turning up. Its getting really old seeing all the "what do you think" posts. blech.

Can't wait to see the entries.

AMP, this thread is way too big to dig through... 2 questions:
1. Can you add me to the list of ppl that will join
Naughty .............. NaughtyDesign.com

2. Where do we upload the site(tour), do we have to contact somebody ?


Thnxx.

Generous offer? Fuck that! Am I the only one that sees Matrix is seriously ripping the designer off here?

THE BEST Professional tours cost upwards of $3000+. Basically Matrix is telling you to create a tour for them and to use their content. You get NOTHING from them and they get your valuable tour FREE (either way, there's no expense to them)

Who else thinks this is an incredible insult to the intelligent webmaster?

Look.... Matrix made a very generous offer, in my opinion. Especially for people that can't afford to go out and buy new content. And that's who it really applies to anyway. They're giving the average schmuck a chance to compete here... the price is laid out up front: Your tour. If you don't agree, then you don't take the deal. Any other content provider would do the same, so why are you bashing Matrix? Don't like the offer? Don't sign the agreement. Buy your fucking content.

And don't fucking quote me on this shit and try to make me look like the bad guy. Especially when there IS no bad guy on this one.

Go away kush. You bashed for no reason on this one.

First off, I know you're a good guy and wouldn't try to make it appear otherwise - and maybe you're right about Matrix. I've got no beef with them; I am not in competition with them nor am I contestant in this contest (I'm just asserting my opinion is non-biased)

Hear me out: A designer creates a kickass tour and uses the Matrix content to offer quality images to impress the audience. He labours HOURS upon HOURS thinking, designing, planning, and tweaking (and you know what that's like).

At the end of the contest he comes one spot away from winning the prize. Under a normal situation he at least wouldn't walk away empty-handed; he would still have his kickass tour which he could turn a great profit on selling or using it himself. Instead, Matrix keeps the valuable tour, and the webmaster ends up with absolutely nothing.

Now look at it from Matrix's point of view:

They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Their pics don't get any exposure to surfers, therefore they don't lose any value. Matrix appears to get a better rep by "sponsoring" the contest, but all the really sponsor is themselves because they are the ones who come away the winner in the end and the designer is the loser (lost money from time that goes towards Matrix).

If it was truly a "generous" offer then Matrix would simply say the designer couldn't use the tour without first purchasing license to the sets that he used to create the tour. But instead, Matrix says "fuck that" and chooses to just take the tour. And even if the designer chose NOT to buy the images, then he simple couldn't include them in the tour. In no way should he lose his ownership of HIS tour for NOTHING!

Amp, you're a rational, intelligent guy. Explain to me how there's nothing wrong with this picture (because honestly - I can't figure it out)

it's because the designer that would otherwise not be able to participate not only gets the chance to win a prize, but also gets exposure for their work...advertising that is quite valuable as well as a gem for their portfolio..

I would amend it to mandatory

Man theres alot of posts in this thread.. Is it june first yet? maybe if I just goto sleep it will be june 1st when I wake up! haha!

This shit is gonna be fun.. cant wait to see what everyone comes up with.. Ok back into my shell..

Media http://www.shavedpoodle.com/m2_ico.gif

how do i enter on this contest?

Amp, did you add me yet? I did not see it in the list.

Also, how do we upload the stuff? To whom do we send the site?

Amp-

just heard about the showdown, and i'd like to be included. i'm representing Xquisite Media...

thanks.

Maybe so - but that's a long term thing. The tour itself is a tangible thing that has real value - and matrix takes that away from the designer without offering them any chance for them to keep it for themselves.

Hell - if anybody wants to design a tour - I'LL BUY the matrix content for them to use, they design the tour. Except what I'll offer that Matrix doesn't is i'll even throw in 100 bucks (still pretty lame, but sure beats Matrix's offer)

Wasn't there a rule that all designers had to be a member of GFY BEFORE the month May 2002?

Your lack of response proves my point EXACTLY.

I'm in - I love anything run by a person that thinks M$ is crap! :ak47:

Hi Amp,

Add me tooo i will also give a try :-) what next? how/where do i show the designs.give the comple info plz

Thanks,
srikanth

Naughty,
I don't remember that rule. You guys are inventing stuff as you go here. Whatever is on the official site is what info there is.

kush,
what would you like me to say? What point? You want me to argue something with you here or what are you looking for? The offer was made by Matrix Content. Not me. I have zero control over it and I don't care if someone thinks it's fair or not. Their offer stands. Don't like the offer, don't make the deal. Kinda simple really. You wanna make an offer of your own to someone, then go for it.

Everyone trying to get on the list,
I'll say it again: I don't have control over that official site. It's not on my server and I don't have access to modify anything on it. If you wanna get on the list, get in touch with jpfdude. He is the guy that can get you listed from this point on.

kush, I'm sorry man, I'm not trying to be snippety with you, but it's Matrix's deal.... I don't work for Matrix so I can't change it. Whether it's a fair deal or not is up to the individual to decide for themselves for their situation. They offered it and so it was posted.

I do see your point and it's a good one, but arguing it here with me is pointless.... talk to Matrix if you want real answers on it bro. :)

Could you ad me to the official contest site?

Thanks

I agree kush, & if they [matrix] let you use content then you could buy it at the end they could clean up on some sales also.

also though maybe they dont want to give away their content to every "designer" that contacts them in hopes of gettting it paid for later when most serious people would just buy it..

It's too bad matrix only let one person use their content already. I emailed them and ask if I could use thier content and :
I'm gonna have to work with the only 3 sets of photos I have. Anyone willing to donate some to me. :helpme

settheworldonfire talk to dean from planetcontent.com tell him Tom aka va2k sent you he may work something out for you. pretty sure he would

Thanks. I'll email him right now and let you know what happen. THakns again. :thumbsup

I have addet you to my ICQ.
Please contact me, maybe we can work something out... :)

I thought you were against my point - but it's clear now that you're not. We're cool :)

hehe, hard to believe this contest actually happened back then. good shit :)

no kidding. I think we should do it again...

now thats a blast from the past.

:thumbsup

Another contest?

WTF?!?! and i get flamed when i bump old threads! :321GFY