What do I need to do to get some serious affiliates? - GoFuckYourself.com

Dagwolf · 04-29-2006, 08:44 PM

We have 1 paysite. I have 1 banner. We have a webmaster signup page. 50% payouts. What more do YOU need?

I can't put out free content, FHG's, free hosting, etc etc all at once. I'm concentrating my admittedly limited budget on member retention. Also moving to a dedicated server in a couple of days.

So what ONE SINGLE THING can I do to get your (BBW/Chubby/plumper)traffic? Remember, I'm taking names and I'll be contacting you once we've got what you ask for

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BigDeanEvans · 04-29-2006, 08:52 PM

How's about something that someone might want to join?

Not to slam your site but you need to put more content on that tour...maybe some free samples? something idk

Dagwolf · 04-29-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

How's about something that someone might want to join?

Not to slam your site but you need to put more content on that tour...maybe some free samples? something idk

Easy enough.

Matt_WildCash · 04-29-2006, 09:59 PM

Affilates want

1. Free content (precut if possible, they use and create there own galleries and use there own hosting)
2. Free hosted galleries
3. Free hosting for thier galleries.

Your competition is often providing most of those things so a smart move would be to try to work out how to do that yourself (if possible).

Usually in that order but depends on affilates.

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fris · 04-29-2006, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

We have 1 paysite. I have 1 banner. We have a webmaster signup page. 50% payouts. What more do YOU need?

I can't put out free content, FHG's, free hosting, etc etc all at once. I'm concentrating my admittedly limited budget on member retention. Also moving to a dedicated server in a couple of days.

So what ONE SINGLE THING can I do to get your (BBW/Chubby/plumper)traffic? Remember, I'm taking names and I'll be contacting you once we've got what you ask for

to better market the bbw traffic i would hit up a bunch of bbw tgps/mgps

http://www.pornresource.com/tgps/bbw/

i am sure some bbw tgps would love to market an unseen product

babymaker · 04-29-2006, 10:32 PM

a link in your sig to your own program might help lol instead of promoting lovedollars???

nekrom · 04-29-2006, 10:42 PM

Nice amateur design looking site. One thing I noticed, not knocking your site is that you charge $19.95pm access.

Thats $9.97 to me the affiliate and even less if you dick me 50% of processing fees as well. Now that member has to rebill for me at least 3 months to even get close to a pps payout. So unless you can show me data that the avg member is worth that on targeted traffic, I'm loosing out.

-N

Dagwolf · 04-29-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by babymaker

a link in your sig to your own program might help lol instead of promoting lovedollars???

I can't afford my sig. I charge too much.

Dagwolf · 04-29-2006, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Affilates want

1. Free content (precut if possible, they use and create there own galleries and use there own hosting)
2. Free hosted galleries
3. Free hosting for thier galleries.

Your competition is often providing most of those things so a smart move would be to try to work out how to do that yourself (if possible).

Usually in that order but depends on affilates.

Thank you very much. That's exactly the type of information I need.

SmutGiant · 04-29-2006, 11:15 PM

My suggestion would be to put some more work into the tour... as a surfer I wouldnt really know what to expect from the members area and probably wouldnt have stuck around for as long as i did.

Tempest · 04-29-2006, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

We have 1 paysite. I have 1 banner. We have a webmaster signup page. 50% payouts. What more do YOU need?

I can't put out free content, FHG's, free hosting, etc etc all at once. I'm concentrating my admittedly limited budget on member retention. Also moving to a dedicated server in a couple of days.

So what ONE SINGLE THING can I do to get your (BBW/Chubby/plumper)traffic? Remember, I'm taking names and I'll be contacting you once we've got what you ask for

The single most important thing you need is 30+ FHGs. 60% would also help get you in the door. A LOT of the BBW sites don't take submissions, strictly listing FHGs and their own galleries.. Surf a bunch of the BBW thumb sites and make sure you have all the main thumb sizes made up for your FHGs as well.

rants · 04-29-2006, 11:32 PM

Sorry but the tour does not look good at all. http://www.allchubby.com/bbw.html

Love Sex · 04-29-2006, 11:40 PM

does that tour actually get any sales?

Validus · 04-29-2006, 11:45 PM

This is a good thread. People are actually trying to help...

GoodGuy · 04-29-2006, 11:48 PM

it's hard to compete with BIG sponsors nowadays...

they offer free hosting, free content, 60% payouts, prizes, payouts by epass, exclusive content, submitting services and software, etc etc etc...

Hard to compete.. unless you have something UNIQUE.

Dagwolf · 04-30-2006, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Love Sex

does that tour actually get any sales?

Yes, it's done very well so far but it's all SE traffic.

circlekhabib · 04-30-2006, 01:12 AM

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Thats $9.97 to me the affiliate and even less if you dick me 50% of processing fees as well. Now that member has to rebill for me at least 3 months to even get close to a pps payout. So unless you can show me data that the avg member is worth that on targeted traffic, I'm loosing out.

only if you believe that pps don't shave
you would be amazed what you can make with sites priced
what is below the average ripoff price.

Quote:

The single most important thing you need is 30+ FHGs.

bullshit
only if you submit them everywhere yourself and make em into free sites
clean and dirty and submit them
yourself
and make em into avs sites (recommend sexkey) clean and dirty and
submit them everywhere
yourself.
work on your own traffic base. doing this stuff will give you
some crap, some half ass decent and certainly more search traffic.
fuck everyone else of whom most will accomplish nothing
but overexposing your content.

postcount +1

SmutGiant · 04-30-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Yes, it's done very well so far but it's all SE traffic.

find out what the most popular content in your members area is (check traffic logs)... the more info you have the better such as what content is most popular with people who have recurred for 2+, 3+, 6+ months etc. and focus on featuring that content on your tour in a creative way. If you want to get really dirty you can try to monitor which keywords people used to join and what content is most popular by keyword searched and make different tours for different keywords.

Dagwolf · 04-30-2006, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nekrom

Nice amateur design looking site. One thing I noticed, not knocking your site is that you charge $19.95pm access.

Thats $9.97 to me the affiliate and even less if you dick me 50% of processing fees as well. Now that member has to rebill for me at least 3 months to even get close to a pps payout. So unless you can show me data that the avg member is worth that on targeted traffic, I'm loosing out.

-N

Somehow I missed this one. The processing fees are mine; here's an example of how it works from Verotel.

Quote:

Example
Gross sale amount: USD 20.00
Reseller commission percentage: 50%
Reseller commission amount: USD 20.00 x 50% = USD 10.00
Verotel fees: USD 20 x 12% = USD 2.40
Your net amount: USD (20.00 - 10.00 - 2.40) = USD 7.60

The "Reseller" being the affiliate and the $7.60 going to me.

Since the price is set at $19.95 you'd actually get $9.925 recurring for a signup to AllChubby.com.

If you check other revshare programs you'll find that this is competitive with most.

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nekrom · 04-30-2006, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Somehow I missed this one. The processing fees are mine; here's an example of how it works from Verotel.

The "Reseller" being the affiliate and the $7.60 going to me.

Since the price is set at $19.95 you'd actually get $9.925 recurring for a signup to AllChubby.com.

If you check other revshare programs you'll find that this is competitive with most.

Ya and thats cool mate, that you eat the profits. But for myself on a revshare platform I won't push any site that offers a monthly below $24.95. Unless I can be shown stastical or first hand data that the retention is through the roof, otherwise as I stated I loose money on the sale.

An example would be the gothic sites from Spookycash. Their similar pricing points wise to you and rebill & rebill & rebill. I've no quams pushing those as I know the ROI is there.

2cents
-N

Sven-David · 04-30-2006, 05:09 AM

good thread!
A bump for you Dagwolf!

Dagwolf · 04-30-2006, 07:15 AM

oops, that's $9.975 recurring to affiliates. I'm glad I caught that before someone else did.

Chris · 04-30-2006, 08:04 AM

Hmm I agree with everyone work on the site some more
From the very first thing you see - it does not look like bbw content or "chubby"
then you scroll down a lil and you see some larger girls
then you go down a little and you see vintage photos???

What kinda site is it ? General multi niche site??????

Again I agree with everyone .. Work on the tour and worry about promo content later

chase · 04-30-2006, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Hmm I agree with everyone work on the site some more
From the very first thing you see - it does not look like bbw content or "chubby"
then you scroll down a lil and you see some larger girls
then you go down a little and you see vintage photos???

What kinda site is it ? General multi niche site??????

Again I agree with everyone .. Work on the tour and worry about promo content later

The vintage angle is smart, IMO. Ladies in vintage porn are almost always chunkier than today's porn girls.

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Rankings · 04-30-2006, 09:29 AM

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Dagwolf · 04-30-2006, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Hmm I agree with everyone work on the site some more
From the very first thing you see - it does not look like bbw content or "chubby"
then you scroll down a lil and you see some larger girls
then you go down a little and you see vintage photos???

What kinda site is it ? General multi niche site??????

Again I agree with everyone .. Work on the tour and worry about promo content later

Actually so far the tour is working great. We'll try to get some alternate tours up that are more conventional; that should satisfy everyone.

Dagwolf · 04-30-2006, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmutGiant

find out what the most popular content in your members area is (check traffic logs)... the more info you have the better such as what content is most popular with people who have recurred for 2+, 3+, 6+ months etc. and focus on featuring that content on your tour in a creative way. If you want to get really dirty you can try to monitor which keywords people used to join and what content is most popular by keyword searched and make different tours for different keywords.

Thank you very much for the tip! I don't know how to track visitors from search term to signup, but watching the content stats is a great idea.

It'll help me buy content the members like too.

CyberHustler · 04-30-2006, 11:21 AM

lol... if you wont even promote your own program in your sig, why would anybody wanna join?

SmokeyTheBear · 04-30-2006, 11:27 AM

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Dagwolf · 04-30-2006, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuySexProducts

lol... if you wont even promote your own program in your sig, why would anybody wanna join?

Because they want to make money, I suppose.

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Tempest · 04-30-2006, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by circlekhabib

only if you believe that pps don't shave
you would be amazed what you can make with sites priced
what is below the average ripoff price.

bullshit
only if you submit them everywhere yourself and make em into free sites
clean and dirty and submit them
yourself
and make em into avs sites (recommend sexkey) clean and dirty and
submit them everywhere
yourself.
work on your own traffic base. doing this stuff will give you
some crap, some half ass decent and certainly more search traffic.
fuck everyone else of whom most will accomplish nothing
but overexposing your content.

postcount +1

He was asking what he needed to do to get affiliate traffic, not how to promote his site himself. If he has asked that question, he would have got answers along your lines.

Lance69 · 04-30-2006, 08:07 PM

Fantastic thread, one of the best I've rolled in on. I know I'm not the only one taking notes here.

Tempest · 04-30-2006, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmutGiant

find out what the most popular content in your members area is (check traffic logs)... the more info you have the better such as what content is most popular with people who have recurred for 2+, 3+, 6+ months etc. and focus on featuring that content on your tour in a creative way. If you want to get really dirty you can try to monitor which keywords people used to join and what content is most popular by keyword searched and make different tours for different keywords.

Good advice. IF you have the right content in your site, then you should be creating different tours for different traffic sources. BBW sites can do well with big tit and mature traffic so you'd want to cater some tours to that type of traffic. That way you can get WMs with that type of traffic to promote your site as well.

04-29-2006, 08:44 PM	#1
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	What do I need to do to get some serious affiliates? We have 1 paysite. I have 1 banner. We have a webmaster signup page. 50% payouts. What more do YOU need? I can't put out free content, FHG's, free hosting, etc etc all at once. I'm concentrating my admittedly limited budget on member retention. Also moving to a dedicated server in a couple of days. So what ONE SINGLE THING can I do to get your (BBW/Chubby/plumper)traffic? Remember, I'm taking names and I'll be contacting you once we've got what you ask for __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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nekrom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia/Asia Posts: 921	Nice amateur design looking site. One thing I noticed, not knocking your site is that you charge $19.95pm access. Thats $9.97 to me the affiliate and even less if you dick me 50% of processing fees as well. Now that member has to rebill for me at least 3 months to even get close to a pps payout. So unless you can show me data that the avg member is worth that on targeted traffic, I'm loosing out. -N

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SmutGiant Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,896	My suggestion would be to put some more work into the tour... as a surfer I wouldnt really know what to expect from the members area and probably wouldnt have stuck around for as long as i did.

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rants Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 654	Sorry but the tour does not look good at all. http://www.allchubby.com/bbw.html

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