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Dagwolf

04-29-2006 08:44 PM

What do I need to do to get some serious affiliates?

We have 1 paysite. I have 1 banner. We have a webmaster signup page. 50% payouts. What more do YOU need?

I can't put out free content, FHG's, free hosting, etc etc all at once. I'm concentrating my admittedly limited budget on member retention. Also moving to a dedicated server in a couple of days.

So what ONE SINGLE THING can I do to get your (BBW/Chubby/plumper)traffic? Remember, I'm taking names and I'll be contacting you once we've got what you ask for :)

CyberHustler

04-29-2006 08:45 PM

hosted galleries

QualityMpegs

04-29-2006 08:49 PM

greater than or equal to ccbill

Spunky

04-29-2006 08:50 PM

Do you have firm buttocks?

BigDeanEvans

04-29-2006 08:52 PM

How's about something that someone might want to join?

Not to slam your site but you need to put more content on that tour...maybe some free samples? something idk

Dagwolf

04-29-2006 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

How's about something that someone might want to join?

Not to slam your site but you need to put more content on that tour...maybe some free samples? something idk

Easy enough. :thumbsup

Matt_WildCash

04-29-2006 09:59 PM

Affilates want

1. Free content (precut if possible, they use and create there own galleries and use there own hosting)
2. Free hosted galleries
3. Free hosting for thier galleries.

Your competition is often providing most of those things so a smart move would be to try to work out how to do that yourself (if possible).

Usually in that order but depends on affilates.

Choppa

04-29-2006 10:00 PM

free tshirts for webmasters :thumbsup :thumbsup

mrkris

04-29-2006 10:24 PM

Hit me up on ICQ dagwolf

fris	04-29-2006 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

to better market the bbw traffic i would hit up a bunch of bbw tgps/mgps

http://www.pornresource.com/tgps/bbw/

i am sure some bbw tgps would love to market an unseen product

babymaker

04-29-2006 10:32 PM

a link in your sig to your own program might help lol instead of promoting lovedollars???

nekrom

04-29-2006 10:42 PM

Nice amateur design looking site. One thing I noticed, not knocking your site is that you charge $19.95pm access.

Thats $9.97 to me the affiliate and even less if you dick me 50% of processing fees as well. Now that member has to rebill for me at least 3 months to even get close to a pps payout. So unless you can show me data that the avg member is worth that on targeted traffic, I'm loosing out.

-N

Dagwolf

04-29-2006 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymaker

a link in your sig to your own program might help lol instead of promoting lovedollars???

I can't afford my sig. I charge too much. :1orglaugh

Dagwolf

04-29-2006 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_WildCash

Thank you very much. That's exactly the type of information I need. :)

SmutGiant

04-29-2006 11:15 PM

My suggestion would be to put some more work into the tour... as a surfer I wouldnt really know what to expect from the members area and probably wouldnt have stuck around for as long as i did.

Tempest

04-29-2006 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

The single most important thing you need is 30+ FHGs. 60% would also help get you in the door. A LOT of the BBW sites don't take submissions, strictly listing FHGs and their own galleries.. Surf a bunch of the BBW thumb sites and make sure you have all the main thumb sizes made up for your FHGs as well.

rants

04-29-2006 11:32 PM

Sorry but the tour does not look good at all. http://www.allchubby.com/bbw.html

Love Sex

04-29-2006 11:40 PM

does that tour actually get any sales?

Validus

04-29-2006 11:45 PM

This is a good thread. People are actually trying to help...

GoodGuy

04-29-2006 11:48 PM

it's hard to compete with BIG sponsors nowadays...

they offer free hosting, free content, 60% payouts, prizes, payouts by epass, exclusive content, submitting services and software, etc etc etc...

Hard to compete.. unless you have something UNIQUE.

Dagwolf

04-30-2006 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Sex

does that tour actually get any sales?

Yes, it's done very well so far but it's all SE traffic.

circlekhabib

04-30-2006 01:12 AM

Quote:

Thats $9.97 to me the affiliate and even less if you dick me 50% of processing fees as well. Now that member has to rebill for me at least 3 months to even get close to a pps payout. So unless you can show me data that the avg member is worth that on targeted traffic, I'm loosing out.

only if you believe that pps don't shave
you would be amazed what you can make with sites priced
what is below the average ripoff price.

Quote:

The single most important thing you need is 30+ FHGs.

bullshit
only if you submit them everywhere yourself and make em into free sites
clean and dirty and submit them
yourself
and make em into avs sites (recommend sexkey) clean and dirty and
submit them everywhere
yourself.
work on your own traffic base. doing this stuff will give you
some crap, some half ass decent and certainly more search traffic.
fuck everyone else of whom most will accomplish nothing
but overexposing your content.

postcount +1

SmutGiant

04-30-2006 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Yes, it's done very well so far but it's all SE traffic.

find out what the most popular content in your members area is (check traffic logs)... the more info you have the better such as what content is most popular with people who have recurred for 2+, 3+, 6+ months etc. and focus on featuring that content on your tour in a creative way. If you want to get really dirty you can try to monitor which keywords people used to join and what content is most popular by keyword searched and make different tours for different keywords.

Dagwolf

04-30-2006 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nekrom

Somehow I missed this one. The processing fees are mine; here's an example of how it works from Verotel.

Quote:

Example
Gross sale amount: USD 20.00
Reseller commission percentage: 50%
Reseller commission amount: USD 20.00 x 50% = USD 10.00
Verotel fees: USD 20 x 12% = USD 2.40
Your net amount: USD (20.00 - 10.00 - 2.40) = USD 7.60

The "Reseller" being the affiliate and the $7.60 going to me.

Since the price is set at $19.95 you'd actually get $9.925 recurring for a signup to AllChubby.com.

If you check other revshare programs you'll find that this is competitive with most.

The Other Steve

04-30-2006 02:57 AM

I've got an idea floating around in the back of my brain - hit me up and I'll share it with you.

nekrom

04-30-2006 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagwolf

Somehow I missed this one. The processing fees are mine; here's an example of how it works from Verotel.

The "Reseller" being the affiliate and the $7.60 going to me.

Since the price is set at $19.95 you'd actually get $9.925 recurring for a signup to AllChubby.com.

If you check other revshare programs you'll find that this is competitive with most.

Ya and thats cool mate, that you eat the profits. But for myself on a revshare platform I won't push any site that offers a monthly below $24.95. Unless I can be shown stastical or first hand data that the retention is through the roof, otherwise as I stated I loose money on the sale.

An example would be the gothic sites from Spookycash. Their similar pricing points wise to you and rebill & rebill & rebill. I've no quams pushing those as I know the ROI is there.

2cents
-N

Sven-David

04-30-2006 05:09 AM

good thread!
A bump for you Dagwolf!:thumbsup

Dagwolf

04-30-2006 07:15 AM

oops, that's $9.975 recurring to affiliates. I'm glad I caught that before someone else did. :)

Chris

04-30-2006 08:04 AM

Hmm I agree with everyone work on the site some more
From the very first thing you see - it does not look like bbw content or "chubby"
then you scroll down a lil and you see some larger girls
then you go down a little and you see vintage photos???

What kinda site is it ? General multi niche site??????

Again I agree with everyone .. Work on the tour and worry about promo content later :)

chase

04-30-2006 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

The vintage angle is smart, IMO. Ladies in vintage porn are almost always chunkier than today's porn girls.:thumbsup

madawgz

04-30-2006 09:28 AM

i require a reallllyyy nice blowjob from 2 of your models:)

Rankings

04-30-2006 09:29 AM

Run a tourney thru us on 2bet.com and ill get you all kinds of active affiliates

Dagwolf

04-30-2006 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Actually so far the tour is working great. We'll try to get some alternate tours up that are more conventional; that should satisfy everyone. :thumbsup

Dagwolf

04-30-2006 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmutGiant

Thank you very much for the tip! I don't know how to track visitors from search term to signup, but watching the content stats is a great idea. :thumbsup

It'll help me buy content the members like too.

CyberHustler

04-30-2006 11:21 AM

lol... if you wont even promote your own program in your sig, why would anybody wanna join?

SmokeyTheBear

04-30-2006 11:27 AM

testing
http://ytmnd.webspacemania.com/0/

Dagwolf

04-30-2006 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuySexProducts

lol... if you wont even promote your own program in your sig, why would anybody wanna join?

Because they want to make money, I suppose. :)

asdfqwer

04-30-2006 02:38 PM

Hosted and RSS enabled galleries and other content,setup forums

Tempest

04-30-2006 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by circlekhabib

only if you believe that pps don't shave
you would be amazed what you can make with sites priced
what is below the average ripoff price.

bullshit
only if you submit them everywhere yourself and make em into free sites
clean and dirty and submit them
yourself
and make em into avs sites (recommend sexkey) clean and dirty and
submit them everywhere
yourself.
work on your own traffic base. doing this stuff will give you
some crap, some half ass decent and certainly more search traffic.
fuck everyone else of whom most will accomplish nothing
but overexposing your content.

postcount +1

He was asking what he needed to do to get affiliate traffic, not how to promote his site himself. If he has asked that question, he would have got answers along your lines.

Lance69

04-30-2006 08:07 PM

Fantastic thread, one of the best I've rolled in on. I know I'm not the only one taking notes here.:2 cents:

Tempest

04-30-2006 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmutGiant

Good advice. IF you have the right content in your site, then you should be creating different tours for different traffic sources. BBW sites can do well with big tit and mature traffic so you'd want to cater some tours to that type of traffic. That way you can get WMs with that type of traffic to promote your site as well.

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