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Old 04-28-2006, 08:59 PM   #1
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So Bush is trying to axe the Federal tax on gas????

Has the US gone completely nuts?
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:03 PM   #2
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:29 PM   #3
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Unless I'm mistaken that tax is a HUGE revenue stream for the feds. .18 per gallon!
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i hope your not serious.... how the fuck would they make money then?
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:37 PM   #5
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i hope your not serious.... how the fuck would they make money then?
Raise the cigg tax by .50

see the great thing about taxing ciggs is....people will still buy just as many

its kinda like raising the price on a heroin stamp bag by .75
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:41 PM   #6
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So ummm you think thats a bad idea? lol I think they should drop all the taxes on gas. State and federal. You guys will curse anything Bush does just to keep hating him.
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:43 PM   #7
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So ummm you think thats a bad idea? lol I think they should drop all the taxes on gas. State and federal. You guys will curse anything Bush does just to keep hating him.
I'm pretty sure it was proposed by Democrats and it is the most ignorant shit I've ever heard. You think you can just chop out that much money without huge consequences?
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:45 PM   #8
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Actually I've heard that the taxes on gas is more like .43 cents a gallon. But I could be wrong. Everyone's math seems to be as mixed on this as anything involving the government.

No fear. They will find something else to tax in place of it.

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Old 04-28-2006, 09:48 PM   #9
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they will legalize pot then tax the shit out of it
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:03 PM   #10
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I'm pretty sure it was proposed by Democrats and it is the most ignorant shit I've ever heard. You think you can just chop out that much money without huge consequences?

Yes less money spent on gas, means more money spent on other goods. Trickle down economics does work, and always has. The more the Government takes the less we can spend, and the less we all make. The more we make (as Im sure you know) The more taxes we pay in. Maybe I need to make you a flow chart or something.... Trust me the fookin government has more than enough to do what needs done. It just needs to cut all the pork, and all the unecessary social programs going on.
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:05 PM   #11
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Yes less money spent on gas, means more money spent on other goods. Trickle down economics does work, and always has. The more the Government takes the less we can spend, and the less we all make. The more we make (as Im sure you know) The more taxes we pay in. Maybe I need to make you a flow chart or something.... Trust me the fookin government has more than enough to do what needs done. It just needs to cut all the pork, and all the unecessary social programs going on.
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Too bad the US is in no position to do that.
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:07 PM   #12
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Too bad the US is in no position to do that.
Ya wish we had Canada's or France's economy. You guys must be in shambles up with that $.11 further behind us.
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:10 PM   #13
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Our income is lowered by "Federal Income Taxes."

At least in California, I pay even MORE as "Self Employment Tax".

Then to top it off, state taxes. (Unless your in Nevada)

THEN, the ice on the cake - ANYTIME WE BUY ANYTHING at a store, its taxed.



They should take the extra tax off gas, AND LEARN HOW TO SPEND OUR MONEY BETTER. i.e. not starting unneeded multi-billion dollar wars.

I cant believe any of you idiots would be against them removing a tax.
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Our income is lowered by "Federal Income Taxes."

At least in California, I pay even MORE as "Self Employment Tax".

Then to top it off, state taxes. (Unless your in Nevada)

THEN, the ice on the cake - ANYTIME WE BUY ANYTHING at a store, its taxed.



They should take the extra tax off gas, AND LEARN HOW TO SPEND OUR MONEY BETTER. i.e. not starting unneeded multi-billion dollar wars.

I cant believe any of you idiots would be against them removing a tax.
Agreed with you till the end part.
There is many more things to cut before we cut our defense.

Btw move to TN no state tax here. Just tax on goods you buy at 8% or so.
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:17 PM   #15
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Cut the money that you give israel every year.
That will help the US back to its feet.
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That will help the US back to its feet.
Shut up you fuckin Nazi go back to one of your deathcamps.
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They should take the extra tax off gas, AND LEARN HOW TO SPEND OUR MONEY BETTER. i.e. not starting unneeded multi-billion dollar wars.

I cant believe any of you idiots would be against them removing a tax.
Oh dear fucking God. The proposal is to knock it off for 2 fucking months. That would be a big ass whoopity fucking doo in your pocket but a major dent to the money collected overall. You really think $3.20 / gallon to $3.02 is going to save you pain at the gas pumps? Helps nothing, hurts much.
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:28 PM   #18
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Shut up you fuckin Nazi go back to one of your deathcamps.
Ignorance is a bliss
Supporting israel is like supporting terrorism and lots and lots of killing!

What would you say if scientologies would declare california as their own country? That would be fucked up wouldnt it? Same here... with israel.
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Supporting israel is like supporting terrorism and lots and lots of killing!

What would you say if scientologies would declare california as their own country? That would be fucked up wouldnt it? Same here... with israel.
Please don't quote him, it fucks up my ignore.
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:32 PM   #20
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why not...they have given up on fixing the roads.....and i notice that a lot of the new road plans include more "toll" roads anyways.
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What the republicans want is to throw $100 at us all then open up drilling in the Alaskan areas. $100? Thanks for 1 fill up, idiots.
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:34 PM   #22
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What the republicans want is to throw $100 at us all then open up drilling in the Alaskan areas. $100? Thanks for 1 fill up, idiots.
You don't think that's a fair trade?
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I agree that cutting the tax all together is a major mistake. Lowering it would be a better idea. If they are getting .18 per gallon, then drop it to .15 for 6 months, and then to .12 6 months later, and so on until it is arounf .05 One way or another the government needs money to work on, and we have to pay it. They dont do it because it is fun.
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What the republicans want is to throw $100 at us all then open up drilling in the Alaskan areas. $100? Thanks for 1 fill up, idiots.
Are you sure that offer still stands? Cause now you have control over the oil in iraq..!

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You don't think that's a fair trade?
lol! no.

I thought it was funny this week too when some mouthpiece got up on earth day and said in the last 10 years the US has cut emissions by blah blah blah percent. But failed to mention how Bush had reversed a lot of clintons clean air bill. Oh well. Thats politics for you.
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Iraq? Oh yeah, that place were something like $3 billion of the funds sent are missing.
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USA donated year 2005 over 2.5 billion US dollars to Israelhahaha180;s army.
Total amount donated year 2005 is far beyond the 2.5, there is a start!

You could remove tax on gas...
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Please don't quote him, it fucks up my ignore.

Ahh the good old ignore when you are losing a debate. And you wonder why lefties dont wanna goto war.
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Ahh the good old ignore when you are losing a debate. And you wonder why lefties dont wanna goto war.
You know how to debate? Thats right, you dont zionist fucker.
You make me sick, you and your kind.

You call me nazi, well zionist belong in the same category as nazis.
So man plz just stfu and go and post on your zionist forums insted.
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You know how to debate? Thats right, you dont zionist fucker.
You make me sick, you and your kind.

You call me nazi, well zionist belong in the same category as nazis.
So man plz just stfu and go and post on your zionist forums insted.
The dude is a dumbass, he keeps calling me a leftist for calling stupid shit stupid simply because it involves his precious government. The fucking thing was proposed by DEMOCRATS.
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The dude is a dumbass, he keeps calling me a leftist for calling stupid shit stupid simply because it involves his precious government. The fucking thing was proposed by DEMOCRATS.
He sure is!
His a zionist, dont expect anything less from him.
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Agreed with you till the end part.
There is many more things to cut before we cut our defense.

Btw move to TN no state tax here. Just tax on goods you buy at 8% or so.
Dont get me wrong, im all for building up our military strength, so when a REAL threat arises we can kick their asses in a flash.

I'm talking about the extra costs of deploying the military for nothing.
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The dude is a dumbass, he keeps calling me a leftist for calling stupid shit stupid simply because it involves his precious government. The fucking thing was proposed by DEMOCRATS.
haha nice align yourself with a racist nazi.
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haha nice align yourself with a racist nazi.
There we go again "racist nazi", a nazi is a racist, wtf is a racist nazi?
You are a fucking retarded.

Im quite sure that you dont even know what national socialism is.
However, its nothing that i support.

Stupid zionist.
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Does anyone here even know how much money cutting taxes on gas would actually be overall?

The US uses 9 MILLION barrels of motor gasoline each _DAY_.
The US uses 3.8 MILLION barrels of diesel fuel each _DAY_.
Plus another 1.7 MILLION in jet fuel daily. Which totals to about 15 million barrels total consumption DAILY by the transportation sector. Thats around 2.5 gallons per person, per day!
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pe..._wpsup_k_w.htm

Thats around _DOUBLE_ the amount of other industrialized countries.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/p...ns_per_cap.htm

Maybe instead of cutting taxes on oil you guys should just invest in better technology so you can lower your consumption?
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I cant believe any of you idiots would be against them removing a tax.
There is no such thing as "removing" a tax. Lost revenues will be made up for elsewhere. For instance, the budget cuts in federal money going to the states may look good on paper but my city responded by increasing everyone's property tax. In my case the assessed value of my property doubled what it was on the previous year's tax bill.
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