Greg B

Dude just won't shut the fuck up. He figures because China and Russia are customers that he can do what the fuck he feels.

Is he just waitin' for Israel or the U.S. to blast his ass off the planet or what?

Yeah, I know we're in all kinds of shit already, illegal immigration, Iraq, Afghanistan, weather, but dude is really asking for it.

G.O.D

cant help it, want to be powerful maybe

WWC

yup i agree....they can be very arrogant sometimes....

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I think its calculated...he figures that Russia will back his play becuase we are now having issues with Putin then from what the analysts are saying this is a standard tactic used by the Iranian government.

Try to play hardball becuase they feel the west is weakend...if we show resolve and strength they will most likely back down.

In either case this is a bad sign of things to come..

two world leaders in office with a self proclaimed messianc mandate...SCARY!

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Greg B

Actually, I think the Iranian President is about to get a hard ass lesson about life. Russia and China either will blow his ass up first or they'll let us because they know they'll win out in the end because we'll cut them major rates in oil and services!

If you can't beat em', cut em' a better deal!

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Webby

Any opinions folks sitting on their asses on the other side of the Atlantic from Iran need to shut the fuck up and attend to cleaning up their own backyard.

From the track record so far, arrogance seems to be more a thing nearer to home.

Flip side is.. there is nada good about nuclear arms. There is also nada good about others who possess them trying to dictate to those who don't.

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spunkmaster

Russia and China are blinded by their moves to fuck with the USA.

Both countries have a huge Muslim problem and there's a very good chance either one would get nuked before the USA if Iran is allowed to develop a nuke weapon.

Both countries would also get the fallout if Iran nuked Isreal and they counter striked them back with some nukes.

They're either dumb shits or they know Iran is 50 years from having a nuke weapon ?

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Webby

Duh??

You actually seriously think that Russia and China are "blinded" over the USA??

You seriously think they waste as much time considering this as the Pentagon wastes thinking about them?? Doubt they, or any other country is that paranoid, - they have more relevent priorities.

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spunkmaster

"You seriously think they waste as much time considering this as the Pentagon wastes thinking about them?? Doubt they, or any other country is that paranoid, - they have more relevent priorities.
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Yes, that's why 100% of their war games are based on fighting the USA !

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SmokeyTheBear

if you dont act tough you dont get to be one of the "big boys" and get cool toys like nukes and such.. if you dont got nukes , nobody will respect you.. unless nobody else has nukes..

on that topic , did anyone see the new flying boat iran invented.. ? supposedly can avoid all types of radar and attack in the persian gulf.. it looked rather badass...

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Webby

Last I heard they are busy developing their economies, forming trading partners and pulling investment in - apart from taking time out to monitor US spy planes encroaching on their territory.

Doubt ya would have a problem with them encroaching on US territory and it might be a clue to start developing an ecomony at home and take a lesson from them.

Don't mean to be crass spunkmaster, but seriously doubt either country has the slightest interest in attacking the US for some unknown reason - they got other fish to fry.

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Dirty Dane

He's a teaser, a provocer and attention whore just like Saddam was. I bet if Iran become invaded, there would not be found any wmd at all... Dont know whats worst; to provoce or allow to be provoced.

Corona

With the US, Israel, Pakistan, India, China and Russia haveing nukes wouldn't you want some also if you were Iranian?

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Lazonby

Yesterday, Iran's president called for the West to "return to monotheism and worshipping god."

Why is this important?

This is important because calling your enemy to Islam is something you must do before you can attack him.

Of course, us Westerners are far too dumb to realise the importance of those few words "return to monotheism and worshipping god."

But we are now on notice. It's inevitable that we will be attacked now, unless our governments convert to Islam.

Sarah_Jayne

He is good at pushing buttons. Just hope he doesn't push *the* button.

Lazonby

Hope isn't good enough.

phonesex

WW3 coming soon.

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Greg B

Oh nobody wants to hear that spooky bullshit. Living your life on the advice and wisdom of thousand years ago dead people is about as brilliant as lighting your own ass on fire.

Delusional bullshit has put our species in danger far too often and unless someone gets real very fast we'll all be trying to figure out how to use rocks to make tools again.

Fucking morons.

kursk

no one can nuke us from the air.. the missles would be shot down b4 they got half way here. =D


religion is groups of idiots arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.

justsexxx

Yeah let's nuke Iran as well. WHy not nuke everyone except the good ol USA. Jeez

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Manowar

he is a whackjob

Greg B

If you mean no one could nuke the U.S. from the air don't be so cocky. I know of 19 sandchewers who flew jumbo jets into buildings in broad fucking daylight.

I love the religion quote! That's fucking funny!

Quagmire

So which is worse, the nutjob in Iran who has a religious agenda, or the nutjob in Washington who is a born again christmas biblethumper who thinks he was made president by his god?

I'm just as concerned about Israel or the USA using nukes as I am about Iran getting them.

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Ian

LOL, the guy definitely does not play his cards close to the vest. Maybe he should start watching the world poker tour.

Snake Doctor

He's just using the jedi mind trick on Dubya.

See Saddam said that he didn't have and wasn't building WMD's, and we invaded him.
So Iran tells us that they are actively building nukes, so we resort to dimplomacy.
If they told us they weren't seeking weapons we would have invaded already.

Lazonby

Under Islamic law, it is the duty of Muslims everywhere to invite others to join Islam. If those people who are invited refuse, they are seen to be an 'enemy of Allah' and it is then legal to attack them.

Americans were called to Islam before 911, the Europeans were before the Madrid and London bombings, and so on.

Of course, the Muslims can also attack without warning too. Basically, in Islam pretty much anything is legal as long as the goal is to bring the world under Islamic rule.

Here's the problem: the West if full of idiots. Even though everyone has had nearly 5 years since 911 to figure out that Islam is an inherently violent ideology towards non-believers, the goal being world domination, we still have move than 50% of our populations that think that Islam 'is a religion of peace' and that the jihadis somehow misunderstand their own religion, even though every act of jihad warfare is backed up by the relevent quotes from the Qur'an and the lifestyle of Muhammad.

Even though I want democracy, freedom and capitalism to survive, I'm starting to think that the West does not deserve to. We invite hoards of Muslims to live in our countries without first finding out anything about what motivates them, we apologise for exercising our free speech and we send them billions of dollars in aid when they themselves are swimming in a sea of free money which comes from the ground.

Either the West wises up and realises that our way of life needs defending, or we accept the death and misery which the Muslims have promised us.

Manowar

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That guy is insane, there's no other way to say it.

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Lazonby

Actually, Saddam said he did have them, and we knew he had them too. We just don't know where they are now. Perhaps those terrorists who were caught at the Jordanian border with 20 tons of sarin in 2004 could tell us where they got them.

Odin

And here is my problem. Rather than stopping or restricting Muslim immigration into Europe for example (where some 30% of the population will be Muslim by 2050, and in nations such as Holland over 50%) neocon Zionist fucks would have the West go fight some far off war for Israel and take out one of its enemies. You want to stop Islam from taking over the West? Tell me this, do you really think the war in Iraq achieved that? Or really (even if everything went perfectly) achieve that? No. And some Zionist inspired war in Iran won't do shit either (except make Israel's enemies in the region weaker, and Israel more of a superpower thanks to the rush of US Military Aid that would be sent there as a result). If you want to stop Islam for taking over the West a) Stop mass-immigration into Europe b) encourage people in the West to get to a birth-rate level that atleast replaces the existing population. Sending your kids to fight in the Middle East won't achieve shit.

Linkster

The guy is just positioning himself politically - he knows they are 10 years at least from really developing a weapon - the stuff theyve done so far is just enrichment for nuke plants - he just really wants a bomb for deterrence but hes a long way from getting one - I think with Israel sitting there with plenty of nukes and the US setting up permanent bases right next door he has every right to protect himself
Especially after we just gave India loads of help getting their program running full steam while also helping their enemy (Pakistan) develop their own nukes which is done now.

I wouldnt worry about it till Jerry Falwell or the Christian right gets hiw own nuke arsenel (oh yeah I forgot - theyve already got one dont they)

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Lazonby

Yes, 'oh crap' is the correct response.

It's almost as though we are living in some kind of upside-down reality.

Anyone who speaks up on the issue is called an 'Islamophobe'* or a 'racist'** and is immediately silenced.

Can you imagine where we'd be now if those who realised that the Nazis were a threat were not listened to? Oh but hang on. Isn't that exactly what happened, and Hitler was allowed to arm himself to the teeth, the end result being around 60 million deaths.

The current state of affairs is just madness and is just like 1938 all over again. The 'liberal elites', who like to call themselves 'intellectuals' and 'academics', but are anything but, will not allow us to protect ourselves. They have so much hatred for capitalism and freedom, and are so humiliated that communism and socialism were shown to be failures in the 20th Century, that they would rather see the Muslims win than capitalism, free speech and democracy shown to be successful systems.

We live in very strange and dangerous times. But hey, as long as we can fuck girls, drink with our friends, smoke weed and play with our Playstations, who cares if we are nuked.

I wonder, in the future after a few nukes have gone off in Western cities, if people will say "d'uh, if only we'd taken the time to learn about the threats Islam posed instead of relying on what our politicians and news media said". It might be a bit late by then of course, after the financial markets have failed and no-one has any money to buy porn. But hey, we can all come back here and tell each other how stupid it is to stop our enemies from arming themselves to the teeth with nukes.




*A phobia is an unreasonable fear. There is certainly nothing unreasonable about fearing an ideology which mandates the forced conversion, enslavement or death for unbelievers.

**Islam is an ideology, not a race. Hence, it is not racist to be against Islam.

Lazonby

Points you need pulling up on:

1. The Iranians are 10 years from getting nukes eh? Well, if they switch on the 54,000 centrifuges they have, they will have enough enriched uranium for a bomb in about 16 days. They already have nuclear-capable missiles.

2. Since the Iranian leadership is not legitimate, it does not have the right to protect itself. This is along the same line of logic that armed robbers do not have the right to kill police officers who are trying to arrest them.

3. The Christian right does not have control over nukes in America. If you think that President bush is a devout Christian, you need to do a little research into what it means to be a Christian. President Bush plays up to the Christians in America (whether they are right or left wing), because he wants their vote. Even though our own Prime Minister in this country (Tony Blair) is not a Christian, he still says things which please the Christians, because he wants their votes.

Odin

You have some idea, but in my honest opinion I think you are still wanting to fight this on a very inappropriate level. Fighting the war in Iraq achieved nothing, fighting in Iran will achieve the same. The biggest problem is, as you stated, that most people are too content with a happy lifestyle that they just couldn't give a shit about anything other than their new car. The biggest battle is already being fought, and if European politics does not make a swing to 'the right' on immigration in the next 20-30 years the whole EU will without a doubt become a Muslim stronghold soon after. Our fight isn't on Middle Eastern battlefields, it's in our own nations, developing a care and want to preserve our civilisation, culture and people, and recognising that by flooding our nations with immigrants (in particular Muslims in Europe, but also Hispanics in the US) we won't be able to preserve any of the above. We don't need hate, we don't need war that primarily serves Zionists, we just need to find the middle ground in which we can coexist peacefully, but that establishes that the coexistance isn't a one way street in which the West sells out everything it has, and really doesn't get anything in return.

By the way a URL of interest. 40 per cent of British Muslims want sharia law. Keep in mind that in 30-40 years Muslims will be a majority in Holland and other nations soon after.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...portaltop.html

tony286

He is just talking shit,I dont know why everyone is freaking out. China wont fight the US because they own most of our debt.

Snake Doctor

Holy shit Ann Coulter is on GFY.

jjjay

I like your business posts, but politically you're a very annoying lefty. buy a clue mate, all the left ever does is whine, and you're playing right along.

jjjay

so you agree with iran's rampant anti-semitism and anti-americanism?

look - iran is a meaningless shithole in a shithole part of the world. plus, it's full of religious fanatics and anti semite cunts.

iran deserves everything it's asking for.

DaddyHalbucks

I have a friend of mine who is a tiny guy. If you looked at him or stood near him, you would tower over him.

Guess what? He is a Nth degree black belt who could break you over his knee without even blinking.

Iran should pray it only has to deal with the US. If they do anything major to Israel, Iran will be toast.. highly radioactive toast.

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jjjay

we've already been attacked, and are going to be attacked again if the muslim fruits have anything to do with it.

buy a clue you wacko crackpot.

seven

Who cares? Iran is only a threat to Israel not to the U.S. They can go take care of their own problems atleast for once without dragging U.S. to fight their dirty wars again

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Lazonby

Apart of course from removing Saddam from power and now having the ability to fight the jihadis on their own turf rather than have them come over here to ours, we won't know how effective the war was until it is over. And it is not over yet.

We're not going to insert troops in Iran.

The fight is everywhere. 200 years ago, you'd be right in saying that we didn't need to fight overseas. But now, there are such things as weapons of mass destruction and intercontinental ballistic missiles, and freight shipping. So, if someone half way around the world says he wants to kill you, it is your business to go over there and stop him.

And who are the haters? Is it us? Or is it the Muslims? Last time I checked, there was nothing in the ideology of freedom and democracy which calls for me to kill, enslave or convert everyone who doesn't think exactly like me. But when I checked the Qur'an, I found that that's exactly what Muslims think they must do to me.

Presumably you mean Israel. The war will serve us all. We fight against Islam or we let it conquer us.

There is no middle ground. Islam cannot be negotiated with. It is directly from the mouth of god. Man's word cannot negotiate with god's word.

In any case, our values are not up for negotiation. Once you give an inch they will demand a yard.

There is no peaceful co-existence with Islam. ISLAM CALLS FOR THE DEATH, CONVERSION AND ENSLAVEMENT OF ALL NON-MUSLIMS. How can we co-exist with that?

Islam cannot be negotiated or bargained with. It's a bit like the Terminator in that respect

As far as Islam is concerned, that is the only co-existence which they want. They will not settle for anything less that our complete submission.

I'm aware of the problems we face in Europe. It has already started.

I'm in favour of banning Islam as an ideology, as the Germans banned Nazism. Anyone in the UK who believes in Islam, and therefore believes in violent jihad to spread Islam everywhere, can leave these shores or they can be sent down the mines. Also, Muslims should not be allowed to breed. To bring up a child in Islam is child abuse.

For balance, I'd also like to say that Scientologists should not be allowed to breed either.

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Lazonby

I think you misunderstood my post, you wacko crackpot. It does say that we are going to be attacked again, because every time we are called to Islam, it is the prelude for an attack.

seven

exactly

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Lazonby

I remember, I've owned you many times in discussion on GFY, but you continue to show us how backwards you are.

Iran has spent the last 20 years calling for the death of, as well as sponsoring attacks against, America and American interests. Just one example, before you were born, was the blowing up of 200 marines in Beirut by Iranian Hezbollah.

seven

I think he did. He didn't know you're not just another wacko but just another anti-muslim JEW wacko

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seven

The opposite is true and thanks for remembering lol.
That's cause America been getting into their case FOR Israel like right now. Same reason why Osama attackeed U.S. Let U.S. take its support off Israel and watch how Iran/osama/muslims quit bothering U.S. anymore. let Israel fight its own wars

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