Child porn ring busted, 27 charged

[ricks]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11839832/

[chadglni]

hahaha8216;Molestation on demandhahaha8217; reportedly offered via Internet chat room

That is seriously fucked up.

[jacked]

thats some really fucked up shit, sick mother fuckers deserve whatever they get

[Pete-KT]

Glad they got busted, fuckin nasty idiots

[directfiesta]

sick fucks.

[wedouglas]

Good. Sick fucks. I hop ethey know that child molesters don't fair to well in prison. No one likes them...

[ajrocks]

Its always good news when these creeps get busted

[RF_Erick]

Thats sick
Glad they got nailed.
Now they will be molestation on demand courtesy of Bubba.

[BoyAlley]

Always good to hear. I wish they'd divert the money and manpower that they're spending against our legitimate industry toward finding more sick fucks like that.....

[Major (Tom)]

great news.

duke

[Sosa]

good news.

[dynastoned]

molesting an infant? as if the young children weren't bad enough.. burn the fuckers alive and be done with it.

[G-Rotica]

Those are some sick fucks. Cut off their nuts and make them eat 'em raw.

[WebairGerard]

Take the sick fuckers down. Fucking insane. WTF is wrong with these people??

[Corona]

Amazing how they managed to make these arrests even without 2257 in effect.

[adultchica]

I am so glad that they got busted! Disgusting, sick!

[Greg B]

Shows the taxpayer's money this time was well spent.

They should take those creep bastard fuck nuts out in back of an alley and give em' the old Louisville Slugger message.

[Heywood Jablome]

for the Bush Administration! You have to admit that they are doing a good job battling CP and illegal spamming.

[Canibal-7]

Originally Posted by Corona

Amazing how they managed to make these arrests even without 2257 in effect.

What's 2257?

[Manowar]

damn those fuckers

[Deej]

We should be able to line up and kcik them in the nutts one by one....one good solid kick or punch from all of us....all you ladies can use a lead pipe

MOther Fuckers

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Heywood Jablome

for the Bush Administration! You have to admit that they are doing a good job battling CP and illegal spamming.

NOW NOW!! You know that you can only BLAME the Bush administration for bad things, you must never give them CREDIT for good things!!!

Don't you read this board?

[Cassie]

i'd pay taxes all day long to bust these types of people and then i'd pay additional taxes to make sure they were found guilty and spent the rest of their living lives in general population. first stop should be rahway and they should be transfered to every other high max prision and placed in general population.

[MontrealPimp]

evil fucks, names of the pedo's with home addresses would be great.

[Vitasoy]

Glad they caught them bastards

[mackey]

So who's not gonna be posting anymore? lol j/k j/k

This is such a good fucking thing, they need to do that more often. Freaks.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Heywood Jablome

for the Bush Administration! You have to admit that they are doing a good job battling CP and illegal spamming.

Get real! The Bush Admin are preoccupied with daily feedback on a war based on lies and covering their own asses on leaks, fraud allegations and plenty more shit.

CP and porn in general is a subject the Admin like to talk about in the hope they get some support within the electorate - along with proclaiming faith and all kinds of warped shit where there is hope this will appeal to the masses.

It was not by co-incidence that Gonzales made a statement on this particular police action today. Mr Gonzales is busy on other aspects of porn and making full use of the bangwagon to justify his case.

A government which has to be embarassed into giving up it's citizens for prosecution of child offenses committed in other nations is not a government interested in real child protection. The US DOJ is part of that government.

On the actual case resulting in at least 27 indivuduals being arrested - this was an operation covering several countries.

It is not an uncommon operation (despite the fact the govt felt the need to comment on it), and often is the result of individuals within law agencies who have been damned persistent and stayed on the case for, often years, before sucessfully building up an "association map" and acting.

Some of these law agency folks know exactly what CP means - seriously doubt most of us have a real clue. It extends to monitoring individuals suspected of child abduction and murder. There are guys walking on this planet who have had "associations" with children and those children are no longer with their parents at home, but suspected dead. The web of CP has no class boundaries - and can lead "anywhere", also crossing multiple jurisdictions.

Rather than give credit to a load of politicians, I'd rather give credit to the individuals in law agencies who actually kept on this case (and all the others), knowing the real meaning of CP and genuinely interested in the welfare of the minors involved. I know a couple of people who do this work, - and they are folks you could trust with your life if shit hit the fan - and little doubts, their prime interest is genuinely "the protection of children", not just as law folks, but as individuals.

Originally Posted by Corona

:
Amazing how they managed to make these arrests even without 2257 in effect.

Ironic!

The truth is laws already exist and they were implemented. 2257 (new) is just a plaything for politicians to claim successes on. The original version of 2257 has never been enforced to any degree - it's as impractical to enforce it fully as are the new proposals. All crap!

[Brad Mitchell]

Let's not give them too much credit. This shit has always been illegal, the fact that it goes on I would think we should be seeing news like this every month if they were really great at doing their job. I can only assume there are thousands of sick fucks in the US that trade this crap. Hopefully this is a sign of more to come and they will catch more pedos!! I'm happy to see any progress, it's when we don't see any activity that I get concerned.

Yes, and I like to also point out that they don't need any new laws to put these sickos in prison.. just need to enforce the ones on the books!

Brad

[Heywood Jablome]

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Let's not give them too much credit. This shit has always been illegal, the fact that it goes on I would think we should be seeing news like this every month if they were really great at doing their job. I can only assume there are thousands of sick fucks in the US that trade this crap. Hopefully this is a sign of more to come and they will catch more pedos!! I'm happy to see any progress, it's when we don't see any activity that I get concerned.

Yes, and I like to also point out that they don't need any new laws to put these sickos in prison.. just need to enforce the ones on the books!

Brad

The Clinton administration was notably weak on online CP prosecutions, instead they gave us the 2257 law.

If the gov't deserves blame when things go wrong, then certainly they should deserve credit when they do right.

As an adult webmaster, I applaud the Bush administration's efforts to curb CP and regulate spam, and for working with us through the FSC to hammer out a reasonable version of 2257.

[stereolab]

Originally Posted by Heywood Jablome

The Clinton administration was notably weak on online CP prosecutions, instead they gave us the 2257 law.

it's not the actual 'law' that's the problem. it's the insane regulations that were implemented by Ashcroft.

As an adult webmaster, I applaud the Bush administration's efforts to curb CP and regulate spam, and for working with us through the FSC to hammer out a reasonable version of 2257.

there's another version of '2257' that was just passed by the house. this is flying uner the radar. the current DOJ is not 'working with the FSC'.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Heywood Jablome

The Clinton administration was notably weak on online CP prosecutions, instead they gave us the 2257 law.

If the gov't deserves blame when things go wrong, then certainly they should deserve credit when they do right.

As an adult webmaster, I applaud the Bush administration's efforts to curb CP and regulate spam, and for working with us through the FSC to hammer out a reasonable version of 2257.

What has this got to do with Clinton or Bush??

Ask any "pedo chaser" and they will tell ya their top concern in enabling them to do their job is lack of funding. Tho not all, the main reason politicians get involved in CP is to save their sorry asses and gain popularity.

The day a US Admin actually addresses the issue of US citizens committing offenses against children in other countries and agrees to hand over bodies for trial in these countries - is the day I'll give them credit.

The last and first instance of that actually happening took over two years of work and pressuring by two guys, cumulating in threats of embarassment internationally unless they did hand over a US citizen. Of course they gave in on the 11th hour and the perp was eventually convicted and jailed abroad.

Since when was the US govt "working with us through the FSC"? The US govt don't give a fuck about "us" - they have their own agenda and incase you never noticed, - are currently working on another angle to over-ride their court problems concerning 2257.

[travs]

burn mofo burn!

[Thumbler]

Castration is too good for these sick fuckers

[Heywood Jablome]

Originally Posted by stereolab

it's not the actual 'law' that's the problem. it's the insane regulations that were implemented by Ashcroft.

Yes, the 'law' is a problem. It was so bad that the DOJ had never done a single 2257 inspection when Congress passed a statute requiring Ashcroft & the DOJ in 2004 to revise the regulations.

So yes, I also applaud Ashcroft for not making any 2257 inspections, and for the DOJ finding ways to prosecute CP without resorting to 2257 prosecutions.

[AdultInsider Cloner]

good, hang the fuckers

[pornguy]

They usually end up getting killed in jail.

[Violetta]

cut their balls off

[GlydeGirl]

27 down, thousands more to go! Keep up the good fight!

[erehwon]

Originally Posted by MontrealPimp

evil fucks, names of the pedo's with home addresses would be great.

In Chicago, three defendants were charged with conspiracy to possess, receive, solicit and distribute child pornography in a seven-count indictment returned yesterday by a federal grand jury in the Northern District of Illinois. A fourth defendant was charged separately in a related indictment. The conspiracy indictment against Brian A. Annoreno, of Bartlett, Illinois, Gregory J. Sweezer, of Aurora, Illinois, and Lisa A. Winebrenner, of Osceola, Iowa, alleges that they - together with the other 24 individuals, all using screen names - accessed the chat room from computers around the world and participated in the chat room through chats and file-sharing.

[tranza]

I'm glad they got busted.

[GatorB]

Glad they got those fuckers. Unfortunatley we'll get lumped in the same group as them. And sick fucks like them will be used as an excuse to pass BS laws to try put us out of business. Fact is that CP is not porn at all, but why get caught up in being accurate? That's like saying a pile of dog shit is food because someone could eat it.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by Heywood Jablome

So yes, I also applaud Ashcroft for not making any 2257 inspections, and for the DOJ finding ways to prosecute CP without resorting to 2257 prosecutions.

Ashcroft was the man who thought he could turn a blind eye to the extradiction of US citizens committing offenses against children in other nations, while at the same time proclaiming his religous beliefs.

He was also noted for shrouding statues in the DOJ building where breasts were showing.

Sure sounds like a sexually well-balanced indvidual with his priorities in order. He's probably OK with a "closet blowjob" tho - as long as she swallows.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Glad they got those fuckers. Unfortunatley we'll get lumped in the same group as them. And sick fucks like them will be used as an excuse to pass BS laws to try put us out of business. Fact is that CP is not porn at all, but why get caught up in being accurate? That's like saying a pile of dog shit is food because someone could eat it.

Agree Gator!

It's all a game of manipulation, bullshit and abuse - and all under the guise of "protecting children". If that ain't sick - nothing is.

There are laws for child abuse and any lawdog can use em and they do. I mentioned the 2257 laws to one person doing CP issues - her comment was "Awesome what they spend time on in Washington.." She did not give a toss about 2257 and thought there were plently more useful laws already which carried more relevant sentences for CP and related issues.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Webby

Agree Gator!

It's all a game of manipulation, bullshit and abuse - and all under the guise of "protecting children". If that ain't sick - nothing is.

There are laws for child abuse and any lawdog can use em and they do. I mentioned the 2257 laws to one person doing CP issues - her comment was "Awesome what they spend time on in Washington.." She did not give a toss about 2257 and thought there were plently more useful laws already which carried more relevant sentences for CP and related issues.

It's ironic or perhaps hypocritical that the same republicans that want to get rid of gun laws because "criminals don't obey the law anyways" are the ones pushing 2257. If someone rapes a child and films it there are shitloads of laws on the books to use to put them away for decades without adding a 2257 violation in there. If the threat of al those other charges aren't enough to stop them then 2257 isn't going to. Show me ONE case just ONE case where 2257 did anything that existing laws couldn't have done. 2257 was created because of Traci Lords guess what even if there was 2257 when she started in porn she still would have gotten way with what she did. She used BOGUS ID. Last time I check 2257 doesn't require the producer the verify if the information is actually true or not.

[tristan_D]

I hope their asses rot in prison

[Webby]

Originally Posted by GatorB

It's ironic or perhaps hypocritical that the same republicans that want to get rid of gun laws because "criminals don't obey the law anyways" are the ones pushing 2257. If someone rapes a child and films it there are shitloads of laws on the books to use to put them away for decades without adding a 2257 violation in there. If the threat of al those other charges aren't enough to stop them then 2257 isn't going to. Show me ONE case just ONE case where 2257 did anything that existing laws couldn't have done. 2257 was created because of Traci Lords guess what even if there was 2257 when she started in porn she still would have gotten way with what she did. She used BOGUS ID. Last time I check 2257 doesn't require the producer the verify if the information is actually true or not.

You said it!

CP itself is almost minor in a weird way, but it the tip of an iceberg - it's the actual physical offenses against children that matter. This shit ranges from molestation right thru to abduction, torture and murder. 2257 is little more than a record-keeping law - a pedo website ain't exactly gonna be complying with 2257 and there are usually far more serious offenses to charge em with than failing to keep records. (Tho it can also be a source of intelligence on a wider range of other offenses thru association with actual "producers" of CP and their "friends" - who are often spread across the globe.)

It equates with drug dealers in a way. Apart from all the minor players, - the "serious drug dealer" is rarely charged with drugs offenses, but often end up on death row by murdering one or more people. A trip to Huntsville can be an education!

A short time ago (suspect this is still ongoing), there was a multi-country operation on pedos in the US, Canada, Holland and the UK. Some aspects of that were classic in that three individuals were targetted (all known pedos and they all knew each other) who were closely linked to the disappearance of several children (they are still missing and now presumed dead), but little "actual" evidence on which to bring charges.

Stuff like 2257 pales into insignificance when ya look at the broader background of the actual physical abuse and possible murders of children, presumably to keep them from talking. There are evil shitbags out there and 2257 ain't gonna stop them.

[PixeLs]

Originally Posted by pornguy

They usually end up getting killed in jail.

..getting their asses raped would be nicer.

[Major (Tom)]

were any of these people adult webmasters, generating sales using a legitamate processor or merchant account? if not one single person is, then how does 2257 protect children?

duke

[Basic_man]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

were any of these people adult webmasters, generating sales using a legitamate processor or merchant account? if not one single person is, then how does 2257 protect children?

duke

YOU GOT A POINT ! And that's one major point..

[adultfora]

Here in Denmark we also has a ongoing case with a Turkish family dad who has rented out his little daughter with his brother. and today nr 18 man got arrested to have been involved into this nightmare for this little girl...

I would really like to shoot one of those sick bastards someday