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Old 04-09-2002, 01:06 AM   #1
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Light a candle

Come and light a candle in memorial of 6 milion victims of the holocaust.
and in memorial of soldiers killed yesterday & today.
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Old 04-09-2002, 01:07 AM   #2
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Great...jew spam.

I'd light a fuse before a candle.
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Old 04-09-2002, 01:07 AM   #3
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You gonna light a candle for our American and other coalition soldiers losing their lives in the Middle East everyday?

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Old 04-09-2002, 01:27 AM   #4
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Jimmy: that was thoughtful and smart. 6 million women and children who didn't do anything to deserve it were killed in gas chambers. Hundreds more have been killed senselessly in the cities and towns of Israel. You don't need to light a candle thank you very much, but in this day, to light a fuse, you must get Hitler cracking up in his grave. Heil Hitler to you and your other friends.

Nedder: American soldires are NOT being killed everyday in the middle-east. The only place where American soldires lost their lives in recent months is Afghanistan. Afghanistan is NOT in the middle east. It's in Asia. And yes, you will be surprised just how many would light a candle in their honor.
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Old 04-09-2002, 01:30 AM   #5
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so capbrex, you are saying that we shouldnt remember fallen american Marines and soldiers, only the israelis?
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Old 04-09-2002, 01:35 AM   #6
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The history of the world is littered with the bones of innocents and I simply don't care.

The fact that millions died in WW2 means nothing to me, I wasn't even alive: here's a thought, every single person in the world that was born in the 18th century is dead now.

People live, people die, people kill; it's the human condition. Millions died in Somalia, Russia, the sea between Africa and the east coast of the United States is the grave of millions of West Africans.

When it comes to jew spam I side wholeheartedly with the cause of the Palestinians, 100%. Zionism is vile.
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Just Nuc them both and one over saddams house
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armageddon is near
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close enuff.

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Old 04-09-2002, 01:53 AM   #10
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Yeah go light a candle...

after the Isreali Prime Minister tells our president (the US) to pretty much go fuck himself today, and after Isreal has decided to continue to lob bombs at Refugee Camps and bulldoze houses in the West Bank...

It sucks that millions of jews were killed during the holocaust, I agree with that, but after recent events the jews are now as guilty as anyone when it comes to commiting genocide...
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kmanrox: where did I say that? I said the oposite! I said you would not believe how many WOULD lite a candle to honor a fallen AMERICAN soldire, or any other soldire/civilian who died for a cause. not just Israelis. where did I say "only Israelis"??? when the twin towers fell, there was an official day of rememberance in Israel. In the Palestinian authority there were street parties.

Jimmy: it should matter to you. if you don't care when it happens to jews, or americans, or russians, or somalians - it will one day knock on your door and on the doors of people you love. by not minding you are saying the americans shouldn't have responded to the WTC attack... why should they care? it matters and it is different when you die of old age or if you go to work/school and someone crashes a plane into your building. it matters when people die in a war - or if 1/3 of the jewish population in the world is systematically murdered. it matters. as for zionism - zionism is the product of jews being systematically murdered anywhere else they lived. if there was no zionism, all 3 million of us would come live next to your house! you should be glad there is israel if you hate jews!

keev: thanks. heil hitler to you as well! you're too smart for me.

Nedder: ;-) you are actually right...

wired1: i listened to the news also. he didn't say GFY. he said it is his responsibility to protect israeli civilians and this is why he needs to make this choice. he is a head of state - not a minister in the american government. israel agrees with 99% of what america asks it to do. when it comes to protect hundreds of women and children who are being killed daily - the responsibility to stop it is on the israeli PM - not anyone else! the lives of innocent people are more importent (to some of us) than prices of oil. as for israel's presence in these camps - it is NOT against innocent civilians. if it was they would all be dead now. with all the tanks and jets do you really not think if that was the mission there wouldn't be a single palestinian alive by now? it is against infrastructure of terror. to remind you, there has been negotiations for peace. israel was willing to give up next to all the territories in exchange for peace. the response was the intifada. you don't trust me? trust your own president. he saidf it himself! as for genocide - use that word carefully. israel favors the existence of a palestinian state. it doesn't favor a palestinian terror state. genocide is the systematic killing of 6 million innocent jewish women and children. throughout this last 18 months "only" 1000 palestinaisns died - more than 90% of them are armed militants. you listen too much to CNN. you really think the world is a two dimentional place?
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more than 90% of them are armed militants...?
This is complete bullshit, and typical Zionist propaganda.
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Old 04-09-2002, 02:28 AM   #13
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It's really sad that people can still be so ignorant..

I know it's cliched.. but simply... Why hate?

And i have noticed that most of the people here who do hate.. quite simply don't have a clue what they're talking about. ignorance and stupidity seem to go hand in hand...

Well done carpibex for being one of the only people to voice an opinion supported by fact, rather than ignorance.
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Old 04-09-2002, 02:31 AM   #14
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Dude you're a fucking moron. Do some research. All the shit he's spouting is bullshit propaganda.
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Old 04-09-2002, 02:37 AM   #15
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Hate,

What the hell are you talking about!?! Who said anything about hate, just because I and some others dont agree? buy a fucken clue! And no capribex, CNN doesnt make up my mind for me, simple common sence does...
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Old 04-09-2002, 02:52 AM   #16
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You want an argument with facts, here are some fucking facts: from B't Selem, the Israeli, non partisan human rights organization:

862 Palestinian civilians were killed by Israeli security forces' gunfire in the Occupied Territories, of whom 198 were minors under the age of 18.


Ages of the minors killed: Forty One minors were age 17, Thirty Three were age 16, Thirty Seven were age 15, Twenty Nine were age 14, Twenty One were age 13, Eight were age 12 ,Seven were age 11, Seven were age 10, Three were age 9, Five were age 8, Two were age 7, One was age 6, One was age 5, One was age 4, One was age 3, and One was a four month old baby girl.


At least 64 of the civilians killed were extrajudicially executed by Israel. In the course of these assasinations 14 additional civilians were killed.


227 Palestinian security forces personnel were killed by Israeli security forces' gunfire, including One minor age 17. One of them was extrajudicially executed by Israel and Three were killed during assasinationss of Palestinian civilians.
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Old 04-09-2002, 02:56 AM   #17
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jimmy: i really can't argue with you. you win. i give you facts. i can give you more. your answers are: "propaganda"; "shit"; etc. yes. seems like you have all the facts but the paper is not long enough to bare them. give me your "facts" and i will deal with them one-to-one. otherwise - you win. ignorance typically does.

wired1: common sense? how many palestinian friends do you have? i have more than 10 palestinian friends both from gaza city and from nablus and jenin. i also lived in israel a few years. i speak both hebrew and arabic. i read both their madia resources and i speak to the people daily in both camps. but you have common sense, so i really can't win against you.

trust me, the media loves to see an "underdog" and support it. those poor palestinians, with israeli tanks and jets killing them all day. i don't think you understand what a bomb from an f-16 can do to a schoolyard or a tall building. if israel was at war against palestinians there would be NO PALESTINIAN left. look at what hapenned in afghanistan, when US planes dropped almost daily bombs by mistake on civilians. everytime it happenned dozens to hundreds died. do you really think it's a joke? israel was able to find two moderate arab leaders and made peace with them giving back land. egypt and jordan are good examples. unfortunetly, the palestinian leadership chose another way. israel parlament as well as the israeli public and even PM Sharon said he supports 100% a palestinian state. israel needs a palestinian state because it doesn't want to be in the territories. this was demonstrated in the peace process. read the statements of president bush. just go to the whitehouse web page and read the speeches of bush. the war is not between israelis and palestinians. it's between israel and palestinian militants who send everyday people to kill innocent israelis. evrything seems so simple when you think the world is black & white... two dimentional... it's that easy... israel is satan and arafat is saint. so do some "research" and get some "commom sense"
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Excuse me but I'd just like to know one thing.....

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE JEWS DOING THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Sixty years ago there was no Israel. Why is it that the Israelis have the luxuries of a first world country and the Palestinians live in third world squallor?

If i were a Palestinian I would be at war with these fucks as well.
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Jimmy: Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Palestinain Popular Front and ALL other terrorist organizations are NOT SOLDIRES. They do NOT were uniform! "Betselem" is counting ALL THOSE TERRORISTS as "civilians" as opposed to people who wear uniform (palestinian authority personel); and they are RIGHT in doing so! These terrorists ARE civilians. When they are being killed, they are being killed AS CIVILIAN terrorists. Please email Betselem to get a confirmation on that.

As for civilian non-terrorist casualties - you are 100% correct! did I say anything other than that? I agree with you, as most of the population in Israel and the world does: it is wrong and it is terrible when innocent people die! This is not the CAUSE or OBJECT of the campaign! here is NOTHING I want more (just like anybody else) than PEACE. I don't want any innocent deaths! What I am saying is, when there is a war - innocent people GET HURT! Hundreds of innocent civilians died in Afghanistan due to American mis-guided bombs. Are you happy about it? Am I happy about it? Is President Bush happy about it? Is the pilot who dropped the bomb happy about it? NO! But it is WAR. That is the nature of war! This would not happen have Mr. Arafat controlled his own people and told them to stop killing hundreds of Israeli women and children. When they do it - they force the Israeli army to fight back. Innocent people will get killed for as long as Mr. Arafat does not control his own people and stop the heads of the terrorist camps!
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It's always someone being in someone else's country that causes this shit. Look at all the good the English presence in Northern Ireland has done.... The Jews should pack ther bags and get the fuck out of there.
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Dude you're full of shit, 25% of the civilian casulties were children.

Just show to go ya, you cannot argue with fanatics.
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Joe: welcome back from Mars. didn't know you were there for so long. Israel is in those territories because these territories were used as platforms to attack us in 47, 48, and 67. The Arab states declared war on Israel and lost some territories. The Israelis gave back territories it captured in return for peace (see the case with Egypt and Jordan). Israel WANTS to give back the west bank as well in exchange for PEACE. this is why there was a peace process for almost 5 years! During these years - during the peace process - Israel already gave back much of the territories (in the recent week being re-captured) - in exchange for peace. At the end of this process there was supposed to be a peace between the nations and the entire territories were to be returned. Israel's sole condition was that these territories will not be used any more to plan and carry attacks against it. In reality, Arafat stopped the peace process by not only not committing himself to this demand, but by sending suicide bombers to carry the message. This is why there is a war over there now, and this is what the Israelis are doing there.

As for the state not being there, mr. genius, in 1947 there was no other states there as well! Syria and Lebanon were French mandates, Israel and Egypt were British mandates. The UN has voted to divide the land of palestine between Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted it (mandatory israel) and the Arabs didn't. They started a war against the newly borned Israel. And lost.

Almost all countries in the world (including the US) sit on land captured at war. Israel is the ONLY such country who wishes to give back the land it captured for peace. The problem is, nobody is offering peace.

You are way too smart and educated for me.
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This would not happen have Mr. Arafat controlled his own people and told them to stop killing hundreds of Israeli women and children. When they do it - they force the Israeli army to fight back. Innocent people will get killed for as long as Mr. Arafat does not control his own people and stop the heads of the terrorist camps!
ALL of this would not have happened if Isreal did not begin building settlements in the occupied territory!

looks like Isreal isnt quite as innocent as it wants us to think...

common sence is so overated....
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Jimmy: 50% of the casualties in mandatory Israel are women and children - targeted in purpose. you can count blood until tomorrow. it doesn't change the simple fact: war is shit. death is shit. no body wants to die or kill. war is imposed on BOTH sides because of Arafat's failure to control his own people, and sign a peace treety with Israel that would settle this bloodshed once and for all. you are counting dead people, which is exactly why there will never be peace. if you want to solve this, ask why Araft will not commit to stopping terrorists. then he can have the land back. nobody is happy when innocent women and children die. as i said - hundreds of those just died in Afghanistan. who is happy about it? is a result of their regime supporting bin laden! it is always the citizens who pay the price - but it's always the leaders who bare the responsibility. send an email to Arafat. tell him that.
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wired: "Israel" didn't build settlements. Some Israelis built settlements. These Israelis make up 3% of the population of Israel. They are fanatic relegious Jews and they look upon this land as their God's given land (just read the bible. big book, no pictures);
however, more than 60% of the Israelis did not support them and said all the time they should not live there. those 3% who live there had close to no popular support and most Israelis were in favour of their relocation to mandatory Israel. Again, if you will read the facts, you will see that there was a prime minister in Israel called Ehud Barak. before he was voted, he said he will give back the territories to the palestinians. and look what hapenned! 60% of the Israeli Jews voted for him! most Israelis wanted this outcome!
the fact that these numbers have changed is ONLY because of this little demand, that this land, once given back, will NOT BE USED to plan and carry out terrorist attacks against Israel. since arafat would not commit to that, and since he sent his suicide bombers to show it - he lost the popular support he had in Israel.
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You don't need to argue with me, I know the facts, and I know you are a zionist, I know you can't help it, just don't expect the rest of the world to make you feel good about your genocide.
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All 3 of Bambili's stupid posts have been this dumb light a candle bullshit. Hey bambili GFY, Go Fuck Yourself, you add nothing to this board except your zionist bull. Everyone's concerned about what's going on but people are getting a little sick and tired of this whoa is me all the time. It's a fuckin' war, instead of lighting candles every week why don't you pick up a gun and fight.

You go light your candles and we'll pray for our soldiers, this situation will never be resolved.
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The modern state of Israel should never have been established. Thats the bottom line. The Jews got tossed out in 70AD by the Romans and that should have been the end of it.

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What the hell are you talking about!?! Who said anything about hate, just because I and some others dont agree? buy a fucken clue! And no capribex, CNN doesnt make up my mind for me, simple common sence does...
I was referring to jimmy3way actually. But you seem to have taken my post personally. Do you think i think you hate? Your sub conscious getting the better of you or what?
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All 3 of Bambili's stupid posts have been this dumb light a candle bullshit. Hey bambili GFY, Go Fuck Yourself, you add nothing to this board except your zionist bull. Everyone's concerned about what's going on but people are getting a little sick and tired of this whoa is me all the time. It's a fuckin' war, instead of lighting candles every week why don't you pick up a gun and fight.

You go light your candles and we'll pray for our soldiers, this situation will never be resolved.
Not once did he say anything anti american.. yet you jump down his throat. If someone posted a topic about lighting a candle for an american soldier, or civilian, i can gaurentee he wouldn't be met with such antagonism. And rightfully so. He has the right to reach out for sympathy without being attacked, just as anyone else does.
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It's always someone being in someone else's country that causes this shit. Look at all the good the English presence in Northern Ireland has done.... The Jews should pack ther bags and get the fuck out of there.
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My Native American SO says backatcha and what day and airport will you be at with your bags? He'd like to wave as you fly outta here...

Both sides are doing and have done things that might not be right. Blowing yourself up to kill non-combatants at street cafes is ludicrous.

A missile killing civilians when it is targeted to hit fighters is called collateral damage. Not a GOOD thing to be sure. But there IS a difference when it is an ACCIDENT or the trash is hiding BEHIND civilians.

*I* really know nothing about combat but I have that old ace up my sleeve and can and DO ask him on occasion... He just chuckles at all the rhetoric thats so freely tossed about on boards like this.

His first response is: if those chuckleheads ever heard a live round whip by them they'd suck soil, wet themselves and nowadays whip out the cell to call Mama.

So until you can back up your opinions with something more than twisted (by both sides) BS, then you look more intelligent to keep your flip flop out of your mouth. Obviously there aren't ANY combat boots in this thread. If there are, where did they walk? Under LIVE enemy fire? Doubtful. Who has *real* Tango experience in this thread?! Don't rush to hold up your hands.

Israel may NOT be doing right in this but they are doing what they can to rid that region of weapons in peoples hands that would sooner shoot your wives for not having their faces covered or some other similar stupid (to us) rules,

Oh and last I knew... Jesus was the KING OF THE JEWS... ummmm birn in Bethlahem I believe if I remember the bible reading somewhat right. Guess they haven't spiced THAT book up online enough for you yonkers to consider viewing. So the Jews do not belong where they originated?

I guess we need to shove those nasty Native Americans back where THEY came from too eh? After ALL, they weren't in this 'country' since the words THEY used to name this country weren't understandable to Europeans. So anyone that says that since Israel didn't exist 60 years ago can think on this... The USA didn't exist 300 years ago. What time were those flights leaving?

BTW, lighting a candle shows RESPECT. Something too many of you haven't a clue about unless it puts a dime in your slot. Just remember this much, alot of good men (better than alot of you) DIED to allow you to spew your BS. It was a perfect waste for THEM to have died to allow that to be.
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I was referring to jimmy3way actually. But you seem to have taken my post personally. Do you think i think you hate? Your sub conscious getting the better of you or what?
No, my subconscious is just fine, you stated;

" Well done carpibex for being one of the only people to voice an opinion supported by fact, rather than ignorance. "

You fucken forget what you post or what?
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Not once did he say anything anti american.. yet you jump down his throat. If someone posted a topic about lighting a candle for an american soldier, or civilian, i can gaurentee he wouldn't be met with such antagonism. And rightfully so. He has the right to reach out for sympathy without being attacked, just as anyone else does.
Eat me sucker, I was talking about the fact that bambili only posts about lighting stupid candles. 3 posts, all 3 about the candles. He's kind like the ass who has abortion kills or jesus saves bumper stickers on his car. No one gives a fuck.

No one has any rights here, this is GO FUCK YOURSELF, not Israel!

Ok, here's my sympathy....
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Old 04-09-2002, 03:58 AM   #35
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Although i might have actually been one of the people you were talking about in your post (i'm not really sure)..

Nicely said.
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Old 04-09-2002, 04:00 AM   #36
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Old 04-09-2002, 04:02 AM   #37
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Gemini, firstly I'm not an American. I'm Australian. And yes, we have aborigines here that were fucked over just as you have native Americans who were fucked over. And its true that that sucks. But the aborigines here were fucked over by the English, not Australians because Australia as a country didn't exist until 1901. America was also a dumping ground for English prisoners in the 19th century. I don't even have any English blood in me, my ancestry is Danish and German. The point is I don't feel any responsibility for the actions of a foreign power in this country over 200 years ago.

However, this Israel shit really started after WWII. It was provocative from the very beginning and violence has been the result from day 1. It was done out of sympathy but it was an unbelievably bad mistake that has cost thousands of lives over the last 60 years. Basically, the Jews got kicked out of the area in 70AD and that really should have been the end of the story.

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I blame the Romans. What did they ever do for us?
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Old 04-09-2002, 05:01 AM   #39
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The history of the world is littered with the bones of innocents and I simply don't care.

The fact that millions died in WW2 means nothing to me, I wasn't even alive: here's a thought, every single person in the world that was born in the 18th century is dead now.

People live, people die, people kill; it's the human condition. Millions died in Somalia, Russia, the sea between Africa and the east coast of the United States is the grave of millions of West Africans.

When it comes to jew spam I side wholeheartedly with the cause of the Palestinians, 100%. Zionism is vile.
You are a fucking idiot, plain and simple. Your a nobody, punk, big mouth, piece of shit.
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Old 04-09-2002, 05:57 AM   #40
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I blame the Romans. What did they ever do for us?
LMAO - you been watching 'Life of Brian'?
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I blame the Romans. What did they ever do for us?
If it weren't for the Romans, there'd be no toga parties.
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Old 04-09-2002, 09:29 AM   #42
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Not all the Jews were expelled by the Romans. There were many that remained continuesly. Otherwise, how could the Arabs kill them in the riots of the 1920s? Long before there was a state of Israel... Also throughout the 1800s... Read the books from cover to cover, not just the bits that support your theories.

Anyway, you keep forgeting one thing: before there was an "Israel" - there was no other state there! Read the history of the modern Arab states. They were also founded around the same time Israel was.

"Palestine" never existed as a country or a state. It was part of Jorden, after it was a part of the British mandate, after it was a part of the Turk kingdom etc...

The Jews went to "Palestine" because there was no other state there, because this is where Jews came from historically, because they were murdered and victimized anywhere else, including places where they used to live for hundreds of years, and because there was a UN decision (as voted favorably by most of the countries in the world) to divide historical Israel between Jews and Arabs.

Or maybe I am getting this all wrong and you are right... Maybe the Jews are all satan and the Palestinians are a bunch of saints. You would fit well with the German Government of the late 30's early 40's.

Prior to 9-11, Bush said the Palestinians must stop their new wave of terror against Israel and return to the negotiating table (with then PM Ehud Barak). The Palestinians called this "one sided support of the Israeli view". They also repeated that soon after 9-11... Read all about it:

http://www.nationalpost.com/features...101arafat.html
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Old 04-09-2002, 12:01 PM   #44
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lol, you stupid fukkkers, fuck em all, more air for me!
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Old 04-09-2002, 01:29 PM   #45
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Being the child of euro immigrants I have ancestors who were affected by the holocaust..... I will say perhaps this is not the best place for this "light a candle" post, but all of us AMERICAN's should remember that pretty much NONE of us are native to this country unless you're 100% native american indian. Sure, who gives a fuck about other countries and *their* problems....... but have you gone back a few generations in your family tree lately???

I myself have french, spanish, irish, dutch, italian, and lots more ethnicities in my blood. My grandmother was born in algeria, africa (ha ha I'm african american too), and fled to this country from france in 1959 post war after living in hell for years and witnessing the horrible things the nazi's did such as witnessing them cut open and rip a fetus out of her best friend.

I just think of how lucky I am to be American, and to live in this country. Being American is just that. This is a free country and especially with all the shit you see on the news you should at least have a little respect for other countries and ethnicities, and just be glad your ancestors came to this country otherwise you could be living in the same fucked up shit you see on tv.
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What have you against Israel?
>> ?Israel is an occupier? ? Israel offered a FREE country to the Palestinians. WHATEVER they could want. Seri-Nuseiba said that (Palestinian representative ? one with brains), US-President Bush said so, Frmr-Pres Bill Clinton, Madelyn Albright, Colin Powell, Shimon Peres. Its signed , documented ? EVERYBODY knows (or should now know) it. ALSO - Israel has already withdrawn from all the cities and villages of Palestinians up until 5 months ago. That?s why they call it reoccupation and incursions. Israel has no desire staying there.

>>?Israel is fighting the Palestinians? ? No! Israel is fighting terror. Terror comes from where? Well guess! ? Ye ? yu?r right ? The Palestinian territories. Israel has to defend itself.

>> ?Israel said ?fuck-you? to Pres-Bush!?. No! Israel said ?Well Mr. President. Who is gonna be responsible for 15deads/day in Israel after we withdraw? You don?t really mean us to? right? You don?t wanna encourage terror by giving it what it wants- are you?. But we don?t want to refuse your request so we already withdrawn from 3 cities and will keep doing so from other places right after we finish cleaning the bad-roots there. We will expedite the operation?

>> ?Israel is responsible for the death and destruction of the Palestinians? ? Partially yes and partially no. Israel is responsible for the death of the majority of people ? they are FUCKEN TERRORISTS and should all be put down. They have a leader who should also be put down because HE is the one responsible for his innocent people?s suffer. HE is their leader and HE chose the war for them actively refusing peace and financing and coordinating the terror. Innocent people should not get hurt but they should not allow their leader to lead them to ruins. They should be the ones to kill him. But they are so brainwashed and afraid that they can?t do anything.

>>?Israel has no right fighting the Palestinians? ? Really? Why ? because arab says Israel is the aggressor and it?s the occupier? Fuckem all ? they tried to fight against Israel and lost! Israel wants to give the Palestinian their country. BUT when terror rages in the street, it amazes me that we didn?t see Israel?s real rage yet. I say? if someone wants to hurt you just because of hate ? nail his ass to the ground. And you know what? By your logic US has no right attacking Afghanistan? Bin-Laden attacked the WTC because of US presence on Arab lands. And now? US & EU occupies Afghanistan. Would you be quiet when you get 5000 dead a week (the equivalent in US or EU for what Israel has had for the last few months)? Will you say its no terror? That it?s just uprising of miserable Arabs? If so ? fuck you, I hope you are the next to hit a plane.

>>?Israel has settlements ? they are the source of all evil? ? So you say settlements justify killing innocent civilians? You need to check your own morale then.
You don?t think its terror? Well fuck you. Hope you get nailed next.

>>?Israel is isolating Arafat ? that pure soul? ? Arafat should be put down like the sick dog he is. What do you think US will do to Bin-Laden if/when they catch him? Isolate him? Ye?sure. ?But Arafat is not Bin-Laden ? he is a hummingbird? ? fuck you ? learn the facts. He led a terror organization for so long under EU/UN approval and US/Israel irresponsibility that you are all blinded and think he is OK. He is a terrorist. He ruins everything he touches. He ruined Lebanon when he got there (Lebanon was a once rich place before he came there). And he is responsible for the death of his people.

>>?Israel is attacking a church full of people? ? No! its surrounding it while terrorists from within put bombs in it and fire from within. Amazing ? I don?t understand how can someone be so blind. 120 terrorists has taken hostage the priests and nuns as victims and human shield and you complain about Israel position? God ? you have one hell of commonsense

>>?Israel has stolen Palestine? ? Well ? 1) UN gave Israel to the Jews after the holocaust. 2) I suggest Israel gives back the land and pack their bags right after US will give the land back to the Indians. I don?t really suggest that but? 3) For all three big religions ? Israel was given to Jews by god. Jerusalem is mentioned in the bible 546 times. Not at all in the Korean. For the atheists of us (me included) - Israel is a free country on an occupied land like the entire rest of the world. Fuck whoever dislikes it. The neighbors of Israel are Muslim-radical-militant-nondemocratic stupid countries. I?d choose Israel over them any day.

>>?We don?t like Sharon. He killed people in Sabra&Shatila? ? NO! he didn?t he allegedly let Arab Christians in to kill Arab-Muslims. Bad enough! I don?t like the man either. But Arafat is responsible for bombing American and UN troops in Lebanon and around the world in the airplane abduction era. And the Sabra&Shatila affair? Arabs killing Arabs ? and is that OK? Fuck ? the Arab responsible for that was later on part of Lebanon government who filed the complaint against Sharon. Amazing! When Arabs execute Israelis and drag them behind their cars or kill their own people for so-called ?assisting? Israel with no evidence the world is quiet.

>>?Israel should go back to negotiation table? ? With whom? Arafat? ? ?Ye he is the legitimate leader of the Palestinians ? He was elected? ? Ye? Who was his opponent in the election? Someone knows his name? He is a fucking terrorist. Why didn?t the US government offer to sit over the negotiation table with Bin-Laden to try achieve peace? Because they are all terrorists.

>>?We just don?t like Jews. They are a problem? ? Well ? Go fuck yourself! You should be put down with Arafat.

For all that matters you all should be realizing one thing. No matter how horrible you think Israel ? Terrors is a nono!. And what happens there IS TERROR! Who ever say its not should be the next to die. Arab leaders who say its not are the free world enemies. The fact that they are in the ?coalition? against terror is funny at best. (its actually a strategic choice of US ? and I understand it http://www.debka.com).

Capribex ? well at least someone here has a brain and not all are porn braid-dead merchant ;) That?s what happens when you jerk off too much. Hehe.

People ? you all DO watch too much CNN. By what I saw there ? there are 43% Americans , 32% UN/EU, 21% Palestinians and 1% Israelis. I saw on the CNN that their smart analysis was that Israel acts only made things worse because it didn?t stop the terror ? only made it worse (so called facts). Now after the operation ? no terror in Israel for 8 days. Surprised? Well ? CNN is not ? they forgot they said that. So maybe it does work? Israel is obliged my vote and by morale to protect itself against terror even if the whole world is shouting NO. Fuck the world ? you will say so when it will come to your own backyard too. Think about it. And YES ? the whole world can be wrong. It was wrong in WW2 when they did nothing against the Nazis. Until when? Ye ? until it got to their own back yard ? then it was suddenly ?morale? to react.
So people ? light a candle ? at least to remind the world of its stupidity.

jimmy3way ? These are not facts that you point out. As no one knows details yet on the dead because IDF has closed the areas and no news teams are inside? your number are bogus and is just bullshit. It?s not your numbers ? so no need to be offended. Your antisematic remarks (?Ill light a fuse?) put you in no position to argue in the name of facts and common sense. Jimmy ? your arguments are so valid and detached from reality. Don?t be stupid ? Genocide is the elimination of people - a clear and followed-by plan. Jews will never do that - Never did never will. The fact that you think so suggests something about your views and wisdom. The only 3way you deserve is .wake up - get rid of that hate it will consume you .

Nedder ? Ye ? WTC was a disaster not only because people died. It?s also because they died from Terror. What happened there was a waking call for the sleeping world that time to kill the enemy is now!. Some of Europe didn?t wake up yet. The day when they will have their WTC is not far and that?s sad (http://www.debka.com).

Kmanrox ? Israel had light so many candles for the WTC terror victims (including their own people and Jew friends that died there). Nobody in the world knows what it is to face terror like Israelis. WTC was one isolated case. Israel has it on a daily basis.

Wierd1 ? You are right ? Hate is bad. But Israel is surrounded by hate. Hate should be put aside. The arab world needs to reach had back to the offered one of Israel. It was offered once and will be offered again when the operation is over and achieved.

Joe Blow ? Israelis and Jews are IN their country. If you don?t realize Israel is a legitimate country then ? You have the problem. Israel is there to stay. Settlements are bad thing. I agree. They should be evacuated. But it was also offered ? at least in their majority. They should be evacuated ? no need to argue about that. The people over there (like capribex suggested) are strange fanatics and will be evacuated. But that was and will be part of the peace deal. Israel will not take actions because its attacked by Terror ? and I advice your country to act in the same manner once terror reaches you. At all ? you too don?t sound too smart (with the your Roman historic view)

LiveDose ? The candle issue is Jewish (and also world-related)- not Israeli. You probably have Jews in your country ? do you blame them for Israel actions? If so you too !

As a final note ? I light two candles for the memory of the 6 million Jews. One for me and one on behalf of the sorry-ass fuckers in this board that don?t agree to do so. If only you will one day understand how sticking your head in the sand will one day kill you too?.
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Yes, I too wonder about the Mcdonalds bagel and ham thing... We should start focusing on more important matters.
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We build this site to all the deads men in both sides and all over the world.
Anybody welcome to light a candle in memorial of him dear men
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We build this site to all the deads men in both sides and all over the world.
Anybody welcome to light a candle in memorial of him dear men
http://www.bambili.com/right_asp/view_candle-en.asp
Jesus, bambili, that's not a candle!
I think it's really bad taste to post a pic of a funeral pyre.
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The history of the world is littered with the bones of innocents and I simply don't care.

The fact that millions died in WW2 means nothing to me, I wasn't even alive: here's a thought, every single person in the world that was born in the 18th century is dead now.

People live, people die, people kill; it's the human condition. Millions died in Somalia, Russia, the sea between Africa and the east coast of the United States is the grave of millions of West Africans.

When it comes to jew spam I side wholeheartedly with the cause of the Palestinians, 100%. Zionism is vile.
Brilliant, just fucking BRILLIANT,,,

This is a perfect example of why the world we live in today is so FUCKED UP!
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