Open letter to the world

[bambili]

Dear World, I understand that you are upset by us, here in Israel. Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset, even angry. (Outraged?) Indeed, every few years you seem to become upset by us. Today, it is the brutal repression of the Palestinians; yesterday it was Lebanon; before that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur War and the Sinai campaign. It appears that Jews who triumph and who, therefore, live, upset you most extraordinarily.

Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel, we the Jewish people upset you. We upset a German people who elected Hitler an upset an Austrian people who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of Slavic nations Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians and Romanians. And we go back a long,long way in the history of world upset. We upset the Cossacks of Chmielnicki who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49; we upset the Crusaders who, on their way to liberate the Holy Land,
were so upset at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us.

For centuries, we upset a Roman Catholic Church that did its best to define our relationship through inquisitions, and we upset the arch-enemy of the church, Martin Luther, who, in his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews within them, showed an admirable Christian ecumenical spirit. And it is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to leave you in a manner of speaking and establish a Jewish state. The reasoning was that living in close contact with you, as resident-strangers in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you and
disturb you. What better notion, then, than to leave you and thus love you and have you love us? And so we decided to come home to the same homeland from which we were driven out 1,900 years earlier by a Roman world that, apparently, we also upset.

Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to please. Having left you and your pogroms and inquisitions and crusades and holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our own little state, we continue to upset you. You are upset that we repress the poor Palestinians.
You are deeply angered over the fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle to peace in the Middle East. Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. The radical Arabs are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset.

Well, dear world, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel. In 1920 and 1921 and 1929, there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews and Arabs. Indeed, there was no Jewish State to upset anybody.
Nevertheless, the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered tens of Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron.

Indeed, 67 Jews were slaughtered one day in Hebron in 1929. Dear world, why did the Arabs the Palestinians massacre 67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression in 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered in Arab riots between 1936-39?
Was it because Arabs were upset over 1967? And when you, world, proposed a UN Partition Plan in 1947 that would have created a Palestinian State alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried no and went to war and killed 6,000 Jews was that upset caused by the aggression of 1967? And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear your cry of upset then?

The poor Palestinians who today kill Jews with explosives and firebombs and stones are part of the same people who when they had all the territories they now demand be given to them for their state attempted to drive the Jewish state into the sea. The same twisted faces, the same hate, the same cry of itbach-al-yahud (Massacre the Jew!) that we hear and see today, were seen and heard then. The same people, the same dream destroy Israel. What they failed to do yesterday, they dream of today, but we should not repress them.

Dear world, you stood by during the holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres. You stood by in 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab capital in the world, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea. And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction.

And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians dream daily of that
extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land.
If that bothers you, dear world, well think of how many times in the past you bothered us. In any event, dear world, if you are bothered by us, here is one Jew in Israel who could not care less.

Ariel Ben Attar
Israel

http://www.bambili.com

[Shoplifter]

All that history and Isreal repeats it against the Palestinian people.....

[FATPad]

I agree. It's almost exactly like Germany in the 30's where the Jews were suicide bombing innocent Germans and the Germans couldn't think of any other way to make it stop besides killing all the Jews.

[SleazyDream]

Originally posted by FATPad
I agree. It's almost exactly like Germany in the 30's where the Jews were suicide bombing innocent Germans and the Germans couldn't think of any other way to make it stop besides killing all the Jews.

I just knew there was a reason for the holicast.......

[tayloryum]

You Say, "And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians dream daily of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. "

and the root of the problem is that Palestinians were driven out of what they felt was their land. Palestinians who actually held deeds to property were told they had to leave their homes. Jews continually bring up past oppression to justify any present wrongdoing on their part, as if they were the only people in history who have ever been oppressed. I personally am neither pro-Palestinian nor pro-Israeli. I think their are huge problems with both sides, and I don't see how the problems will ever be resolved until the current hateful generations of people on both sides die off to be replaced by hopefully their younger, more tolerant and enlightened children who will refuse to keep repeating the mistakes of their ancestors, and demand a better life for themselves.

[Shoplifter]

So because of the Nazis etc the Jews now have the right to steal land, bulldoze houses and disenfranchise a whole nation?

Your history misses Sabra and Chatilla(http://www.jerusalemites.org/sabra.html) and a very long chain of Zionist terror actions. Are they justified too?

You know if enough of us speak out on this we might just get another commercial free PR showing of "Schindler's List" next week to silence us.

[SleazyDream]

Originally posted by tayloryum
You Say, "And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians dream daily of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. "

and the root of the problem is that Palestinians were driven out of what they felt was their land. Palestinians who actually held deeds to property were told they had to leave their homes. Jews continually bring up past oppression to justify any present wrongdoing on their part, as if they were the only people in history who have ever been oppressed. I personally am neither pro-Palestinian nor pro-Israeli. I think their are huge problems with both sides, and I don't see how the problems will ever be resolved until the current hateful generations of people on both sides die off to be replaced by hopefully their younger, more tolerant and enlightened children who will refuse to keep repeating the mistakes of their ancestors, and demand a better life for themselves.

it's the kids they are strapping the bombs to

[FATPad]

Originally posted by tayloryum
You Say, "And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians dream daily of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. "

and the root of the problem is that Palestinians were driven out of what they felt was their land. Palestinians who actually held deeds to property were told they had to leave their homes. Jews continually bring up past oppression to justify any present wrongdoing on their part, as if they were the only people in history who have ever been oppressed. I personally am neither pro-Palestinian nor pro-Israeli. I think their are huge problems with both sides, and I don't see how the problems will ever be resolved until the current hateful generations of people on both sides die off to be replaced by hopefully their younger, more tolerant and enlightened children who will refuse to keep repeating the mistakes of their ancestors, and demand a better life for themselves.

Good luck. How ya gonna get a new generation when the Palestinians keep sending their kids off to blow themselves up?

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by FATPad
I agree. It's almost exactly like Germany in the 30's where the Jews were suicide bombing innocent Germans and the Germans couldn't think of any other way to make it stop besides killing all the Jews.

A question worth asking is: Which came first, the oppression or the suicide bombings? Would you have blamed the Jews if they had suicide bombed the Germans?

All my life I have heard people ask this question "Why didn't the Jews fight back against Hitler?"

If the Jews would have fought back, even against German civilians, would the U.S. have called them terrorists?

Sharon and Arafat are both criminals. They are both wrong to murder civilians.

[tayloryum]

i didn't say i new what the answer was, but i don't see a solution anytime in the near future.

[FATPad]

By the way, I also agree that Israel should learn to negotiate and be peaceful like it's Arab neighbors. You know...all the countries that from day one when Israel was declared a country have tried to kill it.

Israel doesn't exist because the Arabs and Palestinians are tolerant and love to co-exist peacefully with the Jews.

Israel still exists because it can kick the shit out of the Arabs as it's done several times in the past 55 years...and that is the ONLY reason Israel is still there.

Palestine had it's chance not once, but TWICE to have it's own country. In 1947 it refused. In 2000 it refused again the huge concessions offered by Israel.

If only Israel could be as good and kind as it's neighbors...

[UnseenWorld]

This situation seems so intractable and both sides so unwilling to set the past aside and start anew that sometimes I think the ultimate solution (no reference to Naziism intended) is to give both sides access to all the weapons they want and the country will go to the last man standing.

[BabeHunter]

Originally posted by FATPad
I agree. It's almost exactly like Germany in the 30's where the Jews were suicide bombing innocent Germans and the Germans couldn't think of any other way to make it stop besides killing all the Jews.

haa??? are you fucking serious?
where the fuck did you read that?


edit: if you use sarcasam note that...cause some ppl woon't understand that...