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My Friend's Cocaine Addiction Just Went Up A Notch[NEED SERIOUS ADVICE!]
He's been to rehab 2 years ago and stayed clean for about a year. Now it's back in full swing, he hasn't been to work in a week, his family is horrified, his brother fucked up him the day after new years, and today's news is that he's been shooting it.
I've got one dead friend thanks to this shit. I really don't think I can handle another. What can I do? What the fuck do I do? |
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sorry to hear that man, not sure what u can do if he isnt willing to help himself.
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I know it's kind of lame to go on GFY, but I'm only 20 and the only former addict I know is a former addict because he's dead. I'm hoping maybe someone can shed some light as to what I should do this time.
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theres only one thing you can do without getting pro-active and that is "ignore all contact with him completely"
If your willing to help then kidnap him tie him up , lock him in a closet or basement with a cot and bucket and some water.. hammer the door shut , and feed him grilled cheese sandwiches that you flatten and squish thru the door crack.. dont let him out for 2 weeks.. he will be completely cured.
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it wont cost you much maybe 20-30 bucks , i suggest getting a mattress to place over the door so you wont hear him screaming..
dont worry he will thank you.
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the first way is much easier but if your a true friend you will do the second method
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After being with a junkie.I have tried everything possible to try to help.I think detox is a good alternative but they have to want to..unfortunatly there isn't really anything you can do.I finally gave up on her and she overdosed a year later
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Giving up is not an option, this is one my oldest friends. The detox thing won't work. He's already been through rehab, and for the past year he's been going on like a $250 coke binge every 2-3 weeks. In the past month it's gotten really bad though.
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Keep pushing the detox thing.hopefully he wont wind up alone and dead with a needle in his arm one day
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That'll only work if you're jamie foxx inaccurately acting out the death of ray charles' heroin addiction.
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there is nothing that can help him if he doesnt want to
if you cant get him to therapy or talk him out of it he has a problem it is his life... it must have a low value for him right now if he started again maybe try making it more valueable for him show him what he is fighting for maybe this helps him not sure though... i have no experience... i just thought that there must be something really wrong in his life if he started again after being sober for 2 years this doesnt seem to be fun-coking anymore |
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it's not so simple for coke addicts... it's much worse than heroin...
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COMMANDO INTERVENTION is the way to go.
You get all his friends and all his family members and you surround him with people. Tell him that killing himself one gram at a time is not the way to do it. Tell him that all the people in the room care about him and that the group is not going to let him out of their site until this deal is over. Stay with him around the clock. COP INTERVENTION: Call 911 and tell them that he has been depressed and that he told you that he has said that he is going to kill himself. They will roll in and with the coke they fine he will get enough time in county to sober up. (This is a shitty-as-hell last resort thing, but hey there are no rules in this game). GOOD LUCK
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thats what they need... if you wean them off slowly and baby them , they will jump right back on the drugs like flies on shit.. Part of the recovery process is to imprint the crapiness of getting off into the brain so that you wont ever start again.. cold turkey.. It is possible if they are very addicted they could slip into a coma while going thru chemical withdrawl , a security camera might help. and some poppy seeds and codeine ![]()
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everyones method for kicking this is different - usually people have to hit rock bottom in order to get to the point of getting help - for me clean and sober for 8+ years from the powder - what worked for me was 60 days rehab - and a massive change in lifestyle, location, and friends - no regrets life is 10000% better now
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But yea they need to be sent to a detox center for the first week, that way if they have medical issues, they will be addressed immediately. Locking someone in a room is basically manslaughter/murder if something were to happen to their heart, or they went into a coma. |
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When i suggested poppy seeds and /or codeine i was referring to only heroin addiction , and i wasnt suggesting giving them any sort of dose, the drug is used to mimick the opiate they are using making the withdrawl less.. and yes it is possible they might die , but they will likely die from the drugs anyways if they are hardcore enought to slip into a coma or have a stroke..
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Put double the leathal dose of cyanide poison in his drugs. Talk to him and ask him to go with you to an N.A. meeting. Tell him it's his last chance because after this you're done with him. Then walk away.... Let him decide what he wants. Regardless of what decision he makes, you will be doing him and his family a favour.
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heroin withdrawl is one of the least severe withdrawls...yes, but its still dangerous, and we're not living in africa, there are country detox programs available in most cities, theres no need to lock someone in a basement for 2 weeks when you get into people injecting coke, its a whole other ballgame...these people need medical supervision when kicking, their hearts are already weak from the drug, & the withdrawls can bring on a full blown heart attack if an inhibitor is not given |
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Except what Smokey said, there isn't much you can do ...
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Convince the family to bring him back to rehab.. That's the only place wherein he could good enough all the medication he needs.
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I've had 2 cousins that were hooked on coke and they both have been clean for a long time now.
They got clean by: -Going to rehab -Getting rid of all of their friends who did drugs -Changing their lifestyles completely (new job, new apt, new car, new clothes, new friends, new hobbies, etc.)
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would it be fucked up of me to ask you to give him my phone number when he starts sucking cock for coke money?
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Bring him back to the Rehabilation center and if he commits the same mistake again then you should send him to prison, that's for the good of everybody.
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Good luck. I know it is supposed to help with heroin withdrawl, but not sure about coke. Iboga/Ibogaine. Life changing drug/experience.
You can't do much for coke heads if they don't want to change. I've seen it destroy a few friends. They are no longer my friends as they chose to do coke and fuck me over instead of being a friend or trying to get help. The guy has got to want it.
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SmokeyTheBear you can do that with coke, coke has very intense craving that last for months after you stop. So if you lock him up for 2 weeks, his still going to have craving when he gets out
If he isnt willing to stop for himself there isn't anything you can do for him. If he decides to stop, tell him to keep hemself very busy, like get as much as hobby he can, work overtime and etc. I use to do coke for 2 years, it was one of the hardest drugs to quit, even harder than opiates and benzod. |
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force him back into rehab, as in literally. send him there literally. talking him into it sounds futile
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You said he killed someone? then put him into prison. dude he is a criminal and should be dealt accordingly.
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Lock him up in his parents garage for a week or two...If he is at a point where he can't or is unwilling to help himself, then those close to him should take the initiative. Sure it may be cruel (no more cruel then what he is doing to his self, family and friends), but he will thank you later.
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So much Bullshit
i have never read so much shit about drugs
The poster was talking about Cocaine addiction your all talking like the guy is a heroin addict and the scum of the earth I had a 5 year addiction to Coke 10 years ago now and got over it. I had a £1000 a week habit...Not one person in my family knew apart from my g/f It is something that you can only guide someone inthe right direction and hope they come to the conclusion that they need help. You only get help and get off the stuff if you want to Coke is not physically addictive like other drugs the addiction is to the mental high the best thing is to keep reminding your friend how bad he feels on the come-down and is it worth the short lived "high" for try and get the dealer to stop supplying and maybe move him away from the supply by using one of his downtimes when he really does want to stop Good luck with it you have a long way ahead but its worth the effort |
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It fucking annoys me when you mention drug addiction
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On GFY I have been called a "Bleeding heart Liberal." Now I'm being told I'm a "conservative republican." So allow me to once and for all.. Clairify my political position I am NOT a Liberal. I am NOT a Conservative. I am NOT an American. I am 50% Canadian I am 50% Mi'kmaq. AND I AM 100% MODERATE That is how we like it in my home. Some of my opinions are Liberal and some Conservative. But always I speak my mind and say what makes sense. So if the drug addict truely wants to change his life. He knows what to do. Otherwise, better he, or someone, put a damn bullet in his head. There will be one less crack head supporting slime bag dealers. And family and friends won't be forced to endure the drama. Death worked for Nancy Spungen. Her family was much much happier after the stupid bitch died.
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A good conversation to clear his mind will do good.
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