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BV · 12-13-2005, 09:44 PM

100 wasted contests

Drake · 12-13-2005, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Oh, and actually, David from PG posts here quite often and offers a plethora of knowledge on a regular basis. I'd much rather have his knowledge than a few free drinks at a loud party where I can't hear myself think. I should be buying him the drinks, rather.

Agreed. Look, throwing a party or having contests on boards has nothing to do with 'giving back to the industry'. Programs do it for one reason only.... the hopes of getting more business. It's not altruistic, it's motivated by money, nothing more. Some programs throw parties for this reason, others use it toward their program. Neither is necessarily any "better", just different marketing strategies (ways of getting exposure for the program, as simple as that). It has nothing, I repeat nothing to do with giving back to the industry. If catering to 1/100000th of all the actual people that work in the industry is giving back to industry, well, we disagree on what it means to give back.

Fetish · 12-13-2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JMan

I have to agree with Roger, since we been doing these contest three revsharehosting and our chat seminars we are seeing both sponsors giving away thousands of dollars and affiliates benefitting from it all. To me it's like nurturing the industry... if you don't do squat you don't deserve squat.

Well said

slapass · 12-13-2005, 10:07 PM

Fuck, i was posting how contests are dumb, and the whole time I was working on sending traffic to Pussycash on that $50k give away contest.

Roger, ignore anything I said in here. I met the owner in LA at some function he was sponsoring and I mentioned how I love the new contest and the car one was cool. I had intended to do this work before but got busy and was just gettting to it now.

I am dogging the whole sponsor and event and board whore contests when the whole time I was working to send traffic because of those two things....

seeric · 12-13-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Hustler

Mark can you design box covers???

in his sleep.

Drake · 12-13-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Fuck, i was posting how contests are dumb, and the whole time I was working on sending traffic to Pussycash on that $50k give away contest.

Roger, ignore anything I said in here. I met the owner in LA at some function he was sponsoring and I mentioned how I love the new contest and the car one was cool. I had intended to do this work before but got busy and was just gettting to it now.

I am dogging the whole sponsor and event and board whore contests when the whole time I was working to send traffic because of those two things....

That's the desired effect. Contest = more business for sponsor. Sounds like it worked

BlingDaddy · 12-13-2005, 10:18 PM

Google "AdWords?" A fucking one way cash door? yea...... use AVN ADs.
They love adult.

BlingDaddy · 12-13-2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Fuck, i was posting how contests are dumb, and the whole time I was working on sending traffic to Pussycash on that $50k give away contest.

Roger, ignore anything I said in here. I met the owner in LA at some function he was sponsoring and I mentioned how I love the new contest and the car one was cool. I had intended to do this work before but got busy and was just gettting to it now.

I am dogging the whole sponsor and event and board whore contests when the whole time I was working to send traffic because of those two things....

The contest is totally cool.... (not down on P Cash) great program, but one has to wonder where the cash for a boxter and a $50 G payout comes from.

AdultMegaCash · 12-13-2005, 10:54 PM

I give back to the community, but I do with my local one. I donate a lot of money to local homeless shelters, soup kitchens, childrens homes and etc.

If this makes me a bad person because I choose to do this then drop money to get people drunk so be it. If someone does not want to do business with me because I am not getting them drunk I can live with that.

Not bagging on anyone in particular, but for me if I have an extra 1-2-3-5-10k around I'd feel a lot better if it went to helping someone out and maybe changing a life over getting some people drunk who may not even know the name of my company.

p1mpdogg · 12-13-2005, 10:57 PM

i pay my taxes. thats all i need todo.

BV · 12-13-2005, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

i pay my taxes. thats all i need todo.

Good Answer!

bigdog · 12-13-2005, 11:08 PM

The acutal reality is that some sponsors need to spend more time on their programs then damn giveaways and sponsorships

pornguy · 12-13-2005, 11:15 PM

Remember also that not all of the comapnies give things away in the open, and brag about it. Some send things to thier affiliates, and some dont.

Lee · 12-14-2005, 04:52 AM

Ok, from my point of view the parties dont mean shit. I live in a remote part of the UK and in all likelihood will never travel to a party in the USA or wherever they are held (even Amsterdam is too far lol). The promos on boards dont mean shit as I dont live my life on them and am never quick enough to get post number 101 or whatever it is anyhow. So in that respect all the points you mentioned about giving back wont benefit me and I really dont see it as being as beneficial to the community as say the defendants in the Acacia saga.

All said and done though I will probably knock up some galleries for your program because the bonus structure you have implemented is a form of giving back (but to me). I will know after one or two submits if its worth going for the bigger bonus or whether that traffic would be better pointed towards my regular sponsors.

Lee · 12-14-2005, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Remember also that not all of the comapnies give things away in the open, and brag about it. Some send things to thier affiliates, and some dont.

Yeah Ive always seemed to pick the ones that dont give out diddly

pornpf69 · 12-14-2005, 05:30 AM

would quite your job because your boss doesnt go to parties?

Pipecrew · 12-14-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Oh, and actually, David from PG posts here quite often and offers a plethora of knowledge on a regular basis. I'd much rather have his knowledge than a few free drinks at a loud party where I can't hear myself think. I should be buying him the drinks, rather.

Yeah i got to meet up with the PG crew a while ago, great guys, they know the industry well, they started by running gay free sites.

This whole thread is just a major backfire, if you read the whole thing you can see how many times it has been contradicted and just a publicity stunt "we convert better then them, let me prove it to you" blah blah. Let your product speak for you.

David - PG · 12-14-2005, 08:16 AM

Why the hate Roger? Makes it so easy for great programs like yourself to take over the industry and gain market share.

bigdog · 12-14-2005, 08:24 AM

PG,ND and BangBros don't need to sponsor anything. The smart webmasters know what converts without all the bullshit

David - PG · 12-14-2005, 08:39 AM

Holy, this thread even made it to a local newspaper here, it seems they just changed the subject title to something more appropiate:

andrej_NDC · 12-14-2005, 08:58 AM

someone give me back the 5 minutes I just wasted

RogerV · 12-14-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee

Ok, from my point of view the parties dont mean shit. I live in a remote part of the UK and in all likelihood will never travel to a party in the USA or wherever they are held (even Amsterdam is too far lol). The promos on boards dont mean shit as I dont live my life on them and am never quick enough to get post number 101 or whatever it is anyhow. So in that respect all the points you mentioned about giving back wont benefit me and I really dont see it as being as beneficial to the community as say the defendants in the Acacia saga.

All said and done though I will probably knock up some galleries for your program because the bonus structure you have implemented is a form of giving back (but to me). I will know after one or two submits if its worth going for the bigger bonus or whether that traffic would be better pointed towards my regular sponsors.

Great post like I said before I am totally understanding now.. thanks for giving us a try.

It wasnt really about me because my sponorships etc are small compaired to most. it was also about being part of the industy but i get your point.

I'm sure those who defended the acacia saga didnt get much love from the community either

RogerV · 12-14-2005, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by David - PG

Why the hate Roger? Makes it so easy for great programs like yourself to take over the industry and gain market share.

Its not about the hate trust me.. I dont really care this thread wasnt suppose to be about me. but many probably thought it was. when it got personal I responded that way.

But now I understand Ive been wasting my time and money in many ways

I'm not going to stop just slow it down alot.. and this thread was more for my entertainment than anything else but informative at the same time.

I have seen the light

RogerV · 12-14-2005, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Yeah i got to meet up with the PG crew a while ago, great guys, they know the industry well, they started by running gay free sites.

This whole thread is just a major backfire, if you read the whole thing you can see how many times it has been contradicted and just a publicity stunt "we convert better then them, let me prove it to you" blah blah. Let your product speak for you.

Trust me this did not backfire lets get real

I wonder why you took it so personal to begin with? I never once mentioned any names

David - PG · 12-14-2005, 10:03 AM

By the way, here is what happend when I asked pipecrew if he could send me a free IPod for Xmas

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Mr. Jim · 12-14-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Of course

Hit me up. No one is buying shit as they scramble for Internext and Chrismas.

can you call me in my office this morning...

RogerV · 12-14-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by David - PG

By the way, here is what happend when I asked pipecrew if he could send me a free IPod for Xmas

when I asked them if there is any biz we can do I got the same result

RogerV · 12-14-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

Umm sponsoring parties is the last thing most of us give a shit about. You do realize more webmasters never go to shows than those that do right?

www.clickcash.com and you couldn't make me quit promoting them, hell I'd say you couldn't pay enough for me to even consider it. ;)

when you can afford to go to a show I'm sure you will.
for now how much to whore our sig?

bhutocracy · 12-14-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

All of Them.

They make a brunt of the money and have the advantage concerning conversions and payouts. They tend to have Ferrarri's, Lambo's and what the latest bragging gadget is as status symbols. While the ones that made them can barely feed themselves.
The designers, the content producers and coders are all raped in the process.

Depressing?

But thats the reality.

? When the designers, producers and coders put 100k on the table to gamble with then they can whinge about not getting high returns. It's risk/reward.. if your price is $600 per tour then there is no risk.. you get your $600. If you think thats unfair save up 50k or something and risk your lifesavings as an investment instead of being service based... It's not rape when you say "yes".

Theres also no reason that any of the service based guys can't get big by worrying about their own business and hiring people to work for them. You can't be a one or two man show and then complain about not feeding yourselves. Take a risk.. borrow some money.. hire some employees.. bring more money in.. use your skills in mainstream where they don't have access to cheap foreign labour blah blah.

David - PG · 12-15-2005, 05:04 AM

Basically what Alien was saying was that everybody who is in a business for profit... is evil because they feed off of the slave work of others. Wait, that sounds familiar

CamRabbit · 12-15-2005, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

what programs never give back by sponsoring party's at the shows or do contest on the boards etc.

what programs just take from the community and are not part of it or care to be?

Personally I would never do biz with them

You are an idiot.

Board contests are for broke sig whores and real webmasters don't give 2 shits about parties. They care about making money - not posing around juicylinks style.

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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Fuck, i was posting how contests are dumb, and the whole time I was working on sending traffic to Pussycash on that $50k give away contest. Roger, ignore anything I said in here. I met the owner in LA at some function he was sponsoring and I mentioned how I love the new contest and the car one was cool. I had intended to do this work before but got busy and was just gettting to it now. I am dogging the whole sponsor and event and board whore contests when the whole time I was working to send traffic because of those two things....

12-13-2005, 11:08 PM	#112
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	The acutal reality is that some sponsors need to spend more time on their programs then damn giveaways and sponsorships

12-14-2005, 04:52 AM	#114
Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kernow Posts: 2,977	Ok, from my point of view the parties dont mean shit. I live in a remote part of the UK and in all likelihood will never travel to a party in the USA or wherever they are held (even Amsterdam is too far lol). The promos on boards dont mean shit as I dont live my life on them and am never quick enough to get post number 101 or whatever it is anyhow. So in that respect all the points you mentioned about giving back wont benefit me and I really dont see it as being as beneficial to the community as say the defendants in the Acacia saga. All said and done though I will probably knock up some galleries for your program because the bonus structure you have implemented is a form of giving back (but to me). I will know after one or two submits if its worth going for the bigger bonus or whether that traffic would be better pointed towards my regular sponsors.

12-14-2005, 08:16 AM	#118
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12-14-2005, 08:24 AM	#119
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	PG,ND and BangBros don't need to sponsor anything. The smart webmasters know what converts without all the bullshit

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12-14-2005, 08:58 AM	#121
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12-15-2005, 05:04 AM	#130
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