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Old 12-11-2005, 08:42 AM   #51
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Old 12-11-2005, 08:42 AM   #52
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While I wish people would stop giving away the farm on this board alas the link was posted above. I was going to give it to you one day but couldnt' find your ICQ.
Thanks man...I see it now. I wasn't paying attention to the peanut gallery.
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Old 12-11-2005, 08:44 AM   #53
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thats how juicy get his post count...
is this how you got yours? criticizing other people's posts?
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Old 12-11-2005, 08:49 AM   #54
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To be honest Chio I didnt

I also didnt get the message that my money had been refunded, and I doubt anyone else did.

I told you 3 days ago that there was a problem - you told me that it would be fixed the next day. This isnt just a few dollars - sorry.

I assumed you were letting me know in case I didn't. I told you I would talk to him, and let you know what happened, and what the next step would be. As I said in ICQ pasted below I spoke to my coder, and he was rewriting it.

I also posted a thread in here about the rewrite. I posted the url to that thread above.


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[06:13] damian2001: ok -STYL
[14:44] Chio The Pirate: Well we *clears throat* talked He's rewriting the script from scratch.
[14:46] Chio The Pirate: it was as I thought because he was writing the script for me only initially, he just modified the script to work the way I needed and didn't think much about it. In any caseit should be done today, or maybe within a day or two. Thanks again for the heads up, it really would have sucked to find out the hard way.
[14:46] Chio The Pirate: Good thing now he'll be able to code everything in one interface, and it should work a bit better too.
[14:46] Chio The Pirate: I'm going to hit the sack.
[14:46] Chio The Pirate: Thanks
[14:46] Chio The Pirate: again
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Old 12-11-2005, 09:03 AM   #55
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I assumed you were letting me know in case I didn't. I told you I would talk to him, and let you know what happened, and what the next step would be. As I said in ICQ pasted below I spoke to my coder, and he was rewriting it.

I also posted a thread in here about the rewrite. I posted the url to that thread above.
To be honest this whole thing has left a nasty taste in my mouth. You sold something that didnt belong to you. I even gave you the opportunity to make it right - you chose not to.

The crappy thing is I dont know if I should feel worse for posting this or for letting it go on for 3 more days than I had to.

Im now going to go and get myself very drunk - and no I wont answer your ICQ.
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Old 12-11-2005, 10:21 AM   #56
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well, nothing against Chio, but he is a pirate. sorry had to say it.
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well, nothing against Chio, but he is a pirate. sorry had to say it.

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well, nothing against Chio, but he is a pirate. sorry had to say it.
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must have made a killing on the first version of this script. even bumped the price up.
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:57 AM   #60
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Chio, this is not against you, its just meant as a warning.

The GPL is very strict. Even if you take 10 lines of code from a 1000 line GPL'd source code and use it in your own system you ARE violating the license.

GPL is an EXTREMELY viral license, that is why many open source people hate it and why there are licenses like BSD.

Rewriting code from scratch without basing it on the old one is very difficult for any programmer and you should be careful that he really does so.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:01 PM   #61
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If true, then perhaps he modified/improved it and is claiming rights to it.
I must be missing something here.

If someone improves a script, doesn't that essentially make it a different script? Can't someone be reimbursed for making a tool better than it was?
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I must be missing something here.

If someone improves a script, doesn't that essentially make it a different script? Can't someone be reimbursed for making a tool better than it was?
No because ultimately someone could take a free script, add one different line of code and then resell it.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:10 PM   #63
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well, nothing against Chio, but he is a pirate. sorry had to say it.

okay, that was funny.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:12 PM   #64
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I must be missing something here.

If someone improves a script, doesn't that essentially make it a different script? Can't someone be reimbursed for making a tool better than it was?
Not under that license.
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I was hoping that this was just a misunderstanding as I did not get from you at all that you wanted a refund, I assumed as you said that you were just giving me a heads up. I told you that I would talk with the coder to find out for sure what happened, and would let you know. The very first thing I did after we got off the phone, was message you. You never responded, so I assumed you were just going to wait for the new version. I also made the post on gfy which says that we would suspend marketing, and sales efforts untill the new version was finished. I'm not mad, and I will give you a refund if you wish, but to be honest even without rewriting the script it is barely a shell of what it once was, and feedword press is not what makes autoblogger work the way it does.
Im not that bloody niave Chio - The more I thought about it the more pissed off I became.

You knew damn well what was going on. I gave you every chance to come clean with me.

Your 'script' guy took weeks to put this shit together - you lied to me when you said he would have it fixed by the morning - you and I know it was a lie.

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On another track - you came on here and charmed the pants off most of us - and I just cant believe that we all bloody fell for it.

Thats what pisses me off - for a bunch of porn mongering charletens, we are actually a bit innocent and you saw that and took advantage.

Now fuck off and dont darken my door again.
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Didn't you (Chio) claim that AutoBlogger Pro was a creation (written) by "your friend" and you were simply helping him sell it?

Now the "friend" has turned into "my coder"

I am confused
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Hmm, that's lame. Write your own scripts and you won't get into trouble. But what do I know?
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Chio, this is not against you, its just meant as a warning.

The GPL is very strict. Even if you take 10 lines of code from a 1000 line GPL'd source code and use it in your own system you ARE violating the license.

GPL is an EXTREMELY viral license, that is why many open source people hate it and why there are licenses like BSD.

Rewriting code from scratch without basing it on the old one is very difficult for any programmer and you should be careful that he really does so.

I know like I said the script was originally written just for me a long time ago. Later my coder came to me about selling some scripts, and this one we decided on as it worked so well. Once I found out from Damian that it may be using some source from another feed puller, I immediately contacted the coder, and he agreed to rewrite it.

What most people reading this don't understand is that Autoblogger in it's current form is already completely rewritten, it uses some functions over, and some form buttons, that's it. To say it IS feedword press is not true, it isn't. It was so heavily modified to do, and work the way I needed.

Image downloader was added, source linker, wordchanger etc. Feedword Press itself is based on another rss agregator.

Regardless he is rewriting it again. Everyone will get the upgrade, and we can move on. I'm not making excuses, but I was just as surprised by this, and immediately set to making it right.

For Damien to say I didn't is lame. I told him I would speak to the coder, and get it fixed, he never mentioned a refund, nor did he give the impression he wanted one. He came to me as a "Heads up". I let him know what happened, and posted here too. I never heard from him again regarding it, till now.
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Didn't you (Chio) claim that AutoBlogger Pro was a creation (written) by "your friend" and you were simply helping him sell it?

Now the "friend" has turned into "my coder"

I am confused

I have always said he was a longtime employee/friend. I setup the business for him. Go back and read. No reason you should be confused. I have always been upfraont about my relationship to him, and my involvement with relinksoftware.com
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I have always said he was a longtime employee/friend. I setup the business for him. Go back and read. No reason you should be confused. I have always been upfraont about my relationship to him, and my involvement with relinksoftware.com
cool. just a question. no need to get heated. i have no qualms with you
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Im not that bloody niave Chio - The more I thought about it the more pissed off I became.

You knew damn well what was going on. I gave you every chance to come clean with me.

Your 'script' guy took weeks to put this shit together - you lied to me when you said he would have it fixed by the morning - you and I know it was a lie.

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On another track - you came on here and charmed the pants off most of us - and I just cant believe that we all bloody fell for it.

Thats what pisses me off - for a bunch of porn mongering charletens, we are actually a bit innocent and you saw that and took advantage.

Now fuck off and dont darken my door again.
I never said I would have it "FIXED" that morning I said I would talk to him about it, and let you know what happened. Shall I post the full log?
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I have always said he was a longtime employee/friend. I setup the business for him. Go back and read. No reason you should be confused. I have always been upfraont about my relationship to him, and my involvement with relinksoftware.com
You just confirmed what I already knew - fucking congrats

Think back to the first words that I said to you when I found out.
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I never said I would have it "FIXED" that morning I said I would talk to him about it, and let you know what happened. Shall I post the full log?

Please do.
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damian2001: Hi are you around?
Chio The Pirate: yeah here
damian2001: I hate doing this - but - how well do you know the coder that does your scripts?
Chio The Pirate: very well why?
Chio The Pirate: he's been working for me for a few years
Chio The Pirate: mostly little dinky stuff but we talk quite a bit
damian2001: Im affraid the RSS Word press feeder is just 2 GPL (free) scripts that he has found and put together - I hope your sitting down
Chio The Pirate: I'm sitting
damian2001: I wioll just get the urls - wont be a sec
Chio The Pirate: ok
damian2001: The actual "feeder" part is here http://projects.radgeek.com/ - its called 'FeedWordPress'
Chio The Pirate: hmmm
Chio The Pirate: yes I know it
Chio The Pirate: I think he may have taken me too literally
Chio The Pirate: when I was toying with the idea I was using a number of plugins
Chio The Pirate: but they didn't work together, so I asked him to write them so they would
Chio The Pirate: it all makes sense now though
Chio The Pirate: I thought parts seemed too much" like the originals
Chio The Pirate: I just assumed he wrote them based on that code
Chio The Pirate: I'm going to find out though
Chio The Pirate: he may have used code from the orignal to save time
damian2001: OK - I hope it dosnt fuck with you too much - I will leave at that and let you deal with it......
Chio The Pirate: thanks for letting me know
Chio The Pirate: what was the other one?
damian2001: As far as I can see it is a slight rewrite of SH auto link - there are a couple - it seems less of an 'infringemnet' than the first one, but Im affraid its still just a hack of a GPL script.
Chio The Pirate: ok
Chio The Pirate: thanks
Chio The Pirate: I'll get him to recode it.
Chio The Pirate: I'm very interested to hear what he has to say about it
Chio The Pirate: in any casehow are you doing
damian2001: Not to bad - I havnt had time to do much with the blogs - thats really going on the back burner until after xmas I think. A few ideas for RSS feeds that I will tell you about, probably in a few days - if you can get things sorted it will tye in with what you are doing.
Chio The Pirate: ok cool.
Chio The Pirate: I'll let you know what happenes latter today if you're on.
Chio The Pirate: we still need to talk about the news stuff
damian2001: Ok - that would be good - Lunch time for me
Chio The Pirate: 6 am here
Chio The Pirate: lol
Chio The Pirate: I am totally off schedual
Chio The Pirate: not sure if I asked you already but are you going to the show in Costa Rica?
Chio The Pirate: it'll be my first one
Chio The Pirate: pretty excited
damian2001: I dont think so - I will try but its not looking good
Chio The Pirate: ok.
Chio The Pirate: we'll thanks for the heads up on the rss stuff, I'll pop in later after Italk to him
damian2001: ok -STYL
damian2001: ok -STYL
Chio The Pirate: Well we *clears throat* talked He's rewriting the script from scratch.
Chio The Pirate: it was as I thought because he was writing the script for me only initially, he just modified the script to work the way I needed and didn't think much about it. In any caseit should be done today, or maybe within a day or two. Thanks again for the heads up, it really would have sucked to find out the hard way.
Chio The Pirate: Good thing now he'll be able to code everything in one interface, and it should work a bit better too.
Chio The Pirate: I'm going to hit the sack.
Chio The Pirate: Thanks
Chio The Pirate: again
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if you look at chio's sig, you can see he changed the formula for Coke and now is selling his own cola
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You just confirmed what I already knew - fucking congrats

Think back to the first words that I said to you when I found out.

I just posted it
You asked how well I knew him... are you stoned?
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Im going to do what I said I would earlier - you dug the hole - get yourself out of it.

Good night folks - I hope you didnt lose to much cash - and Juicy _ I hope to hell you didnt buy the 40 domain liscence
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Your 'script' guy took weeks to put this shit together - you lied to me when you said he would have it fixed by the morning - you and I know it was a lie.

You have obviously never dealt with a "script guy" before.

Their time is a little different than that of normal people. It is kind of like dog years being a 7:1 ratio to that of humans.
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Regardless he is rewriting it again. Everyone will get the upgrade, and we can move on.
Hey, see if he can code in support for subdomains while he's at it.
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$70 alot of money in this industry? ha lol j/k for some people im sure it is

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Old 12-11-2005, 02:33 PM   #88
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wtf

This thread is ridiculous. All Relinksoftware really has to do to have their system GPL compliant is distribute the code for the existing functions they used (the RSS library, wow that's pretty unique complicated code) along with it. You're paying for a complete automated system, feel free to put the whole thing together and customize it yourself (hint: Relinksoftware is not just reselling an existing script so it will take you some time).

I chose not to buy this product because I can put the identical thing together using available tools and my own programming skills. I'll do it for you if you like, but I'll charge a hell of a lot more than $70.
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:07 PM   #89
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Chio... make a big stink when the new upgrade version comes out... waiting with baited breath yarrrgh.
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:22 PM   #90
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that so?

your mother is a filthy mexican whore. she does donkey shows in beanerville to support your fathers crack habbit.
wow... as a Mexican i gotta say this was just a tad bit offensive to read but hey... its nice to know where people stand

so i can stay far away
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:48 PM   #91
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damien dude... ?

chio is an upfront person, and will go out of his way to help anyone... even if it costs HIM money.. i'm sure its just a communication problem with your icq or something, but rest assured chio wouldn't scam you for 70 dollars.. the money doesn't even go to him.

If getting your money back is what you wan't i'm sure chio will get the guy to refund you.... is that the only problem?
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So, I'm reading through this thread saying to myself, AutoBlogger(?), GPL(?), WordPress(?), when suddenly I realize that Chio is not in his usual pirate mode. Hmm, this must be serious...

Hopefully, all will be hunky dory soon, and Chio will be able to resume his pirate mode (his business mode is freaking me out).

YARGH dudes!!!

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Old 12-11-2005, 03:53 PM   #93
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damien dude... ?

chio is an upfront person, and will go out of his way to help anyone... even if it costs HIM money.. i'm sure its just a communication problem with your icq or something, but rest assured chio wouldn't scam you for 70 dollars.. the money doesn't even go to him.

If getting your money back is what you wan't i'm sure chio will get the guy to refund you.... is that the only problem?
Thanks Sam. I set the business up for the coder, but it's my merchant account, so I do get the money. He was refunded.
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damien dude... ?

chio is an upfront person, and will go out of his way to help anyone... even if it costs HIM money.. i'm sure its just a communication problem with your icq or something, but rest assured chio wouldn't scam you for 70 dollars.. the money doesn't even go to him.

If getting your money back is what you wan't i'm sure chio will get the guy to refund you.... is that the only problem?

I can just picture the 10 page thread if it was you that thought they had been wronged.
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So, I'm reading through this thread saying to myself, AutoBlogger(?), GPL(?), WordPress(?), when suddenly I realize that Chio is not in his usual pirate mode. Hmm, this must be serious...

Hopefully, all will be hunky dory soon, and Chio will be able to resume his pirate mode (his business mode is freaking me out).

YARGH dudes!!!

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I can just picture the 10 page thread if it was you that thought they had been wronged.
and i can picture the nasty mini puke girls get in their mouth when you ask them to take a picture with them.

anything else?
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Seeing how upset Damian gets, I would hate to see what would happen if he got screwed for a few grand. He'd either kill the other person or himself.

Damian, grow some balls man. If you're going to out someone, no matter the dollar amount, you need to be confident and absolutely should not be apologizing for anything unless you're proven wrong.

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Old 12-11-2005, 04:23 PM   #99
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have to agree with badpuppy this time ( wow this hurts )

You have obviously never dealt with a "script guy" before.
Their time is a little different than that of normal people. It is kind of like dog years being a 7:1 ratio to that of humans.

makethat 10:1 to make sure !
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