16 Black Teens Arrested in Toronto School For Sexually Assaulting 15yr Old White Girl

[TheLegacy]

It is an unthinkable crime in a place where safety should be paramount.

But Toronto Police say it wasn?t for one 15-year-old girl.

They?ve hauled 16 young offenders into custody after they allege a student at James Cardinal McGuigan Catholic High School repeatedly sexually assaulted the victim.

The incident is alleged to have happened on the Finch West campus. Cops accuse a 17-year-old male of forcing the terrified girl into a stairwell and molesting her.

And they contend she was then dragged into another washroom in the school, where the attack continued.

The main suspect was arrested last week. He?s facing a slew of charges, including sexual assault and forcible confinement. A second teen was also taken into custody.

But it didn't end there. Detectives charged 12 other young males with criminal harassment. Two female students are also facing charges of threatening bodily harm.

http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Stor...4-012/page.asp


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A student I know from that same school said to me today that she had no sympathy for the black guys since most girls are harassed constantly by the black male students for sex and they deserved it anyways. Daily the black male students are grabbing and demanding that the girls have sex with them and it just has gone too far until she and others feel unsafe to even walk in the hallways for fear of the black gangs doing just what they did to this white 15 year old.

Yet after talking to this same student she told me that the 15 year old white girl who was sexually assaulted did prefered the black guys and was willingly giving it up for over a year until now. Something had transpired that upset her to contact the cops but this was happening since she was 14.

Students of the school have no respect for the cops, much less the white women and because of this - it has caused a racial war with the black guys blaming all white girls for their buddies being in jail.

[Triple 6]

lol, i was gonna say, and will still say it after reading the last two paragraphs: she was prolly askin for it

[ElConquistador]

just bring them down to the US and instead of doing time, they can star in Internet porn!

Blacks on Blondes or Spring Thomas

[pawsregd]

Well you know....no comment

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by Triple 6

lol, i was gonna say, and will still say it after reading the last two paragraphs: she was prolly askin for it

unfortunately yes in talking directly to a white student who is there - she liked black guys and often at that age was having sex and bj's for them. The thing is that the black males have also taken upon themselves to assume that every girl can be harassed, and even if she was asking for it.. other girls arent. My friend there is not a whore nor are her friends - but from what I am being told, most white girls are continually harassed and they are glad these black guys are in jail (although with canadian law, they will be out shortly) and then the racial fighting will get worse... even more than it is now a day after.

[EroticySteve]

I think it's very distasteful to use race in this as any significant factor.

The story would be just as disturbing if it were 16 male teens assault 15 year old girl.

It's irresponsible reporting and frankly the media needs to be held accountable for the way in which they spin the news.

[galleryseek]

disgusting.. my gf attends a college that is frequented by a lot of black guys and they're always making comments and just being immature n' shit..

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by EroticySteve

I think it's very distasteful to use race in this as any significant factor.

The story would be just as disturbing if it were 16 male teens assault 15 year old girl.

It's irresponsible reporting and frankly the media needs to be held accountable for the way in which they spin the news.

So them being black wasn't newsworthy?

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by EroticySteve

I think it's very distasteful to use race in this as any significant factor.

The story would be just as disturbing if it were 16 male teens assault 15 year old girl.

It's irresponsible reporting and frankly the media needs to be held accountable for the way in which they spin the news.

Read the article, there is absolutely NO mention of black/white anywhere in it. It's not even implied!

Undoubtedly, if this happened in a US school, the headline would shout "Black Teens Rape White Girl!!!!" and I think that is what you are getting at - but you should at least read the actual story before making such statements!

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by EroticySteve

I think it's very distasteful to use race in this as any significant factor.

The story would be just as disturbing if it were 16 male teens assault 15 year old girl.

It's irresponsible reporting and frankly the media needs to be held accountable for the way in which they spin the news.

people would eitherwise naturally be very curious.. what is wrong with reporting the FACTS? stop being a liberal.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by EroticySteve

I think it's very distasteful to use race in this as any significant factor.

The story would be just as disturbing if it were 16 male teens assault 15 year old girl.

It's irresponsible reporting and frankly the media needs to be held accountable for the way in which they spin the news.

I know that most want to bury the racist issue and pretend that this wasnt a factor, but the truth is.. that according to the students directly, it IS a factor. The Toronto police got in so much shit a while ago for stating that the graphs and stats show that the majority of crimes are committed by blacks/jamaicans in the GTA area. Everyone had a shit thinking that there was racial profile but the chief of police could only comment on the figures.

This was a sexual assualt, and it was done by black male gangs.. yes they have them. The white girls from the schools cry out that they are getting harassed by these black male gangs.. NOT WHITE MALE GANGS. So what are we suppose to do..?? ignore that there is a different mentality happening between black male youths and white male youths?

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I know that most want to bury the racist issue and pretend that this wasnt a factor, but the truth is.. that according to the students directly, it IS a factor. The Toronto police got in so much shit a while ago for stating that the graphs and stats show that the majority of crimes are committed by blacks/jamaicans in the GTA area. Everyone had a shit thinking that there was racial profile but the chief of police could only comment on the figures.

This was a sexual assualt, and it was done by black male gangs.. yes they have them. The white girls from the schools cry out that they are getting harassed by these black male gangs.. NOT WHITE MALE GANGS. So what are we suppose to do..?? ignore that there is a different mentality happening between black male youths and white male youths?

i agree completely...

take the average "Group" of white males, then compare em' with the average "Group" of black males, and tell me there aren't any differences

it's not a mystery, everyone knows black males are more prone to breaking the law, it's in the statistics.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Read the article, there is absolutely NO mention of black/white anywhere in it. It's not even implied!

Undoubtedly, if this happened in a US school, the headline would shout "Black Teens Rape White Girl!!!!" and I think that is what you are getting at - but you should at least read the actual story before making such statements!

Exactly

I was only reporting what was said to me by a student and watching the news on TV. All the students who were jailed by the cops were black.. the girl who was accusing was white... the students who were complaining about being continually sexually harassed were white girls who know the fact that it is the black males who continually sexually harass them. Canadian media is scared shitless in saying that it is a cultural thing.

The truth of the matter is that most black youths ( I didnt say all ) have a different mentality when it comes to sex and fitting into society than white youths. The white youths attempt to copy the black youths in dress and manners only to look like idiots. Whether society has given up or whether it has to do with black youths living in substandard housing - I dont know... but you cant deny that various groups such as muslims, or whites and blacks have a different view on the quality of life and how to live with everyone else.

[sherie]

Rumours rumours and more rumours. Nobody really knows what the girl went through except for her and whom ever is in trouble. Just because she allegedly gave it up doesn't mean it's ok to be assaulted. This is disturbing...very disturbing. How do you know this teenage girl in highschool btw?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I know that most want to bury the racist issue and pretend that this wasnt a factor, but the truth is.. that according to the students directly, it IS a factor. The Toronto police got in so much shit a while ago for stating that the graphs and stats show that the majority of crimes are committed by blacks/jamaicans in the GTA area. Everyone had a shit thinking that there was racial profile but the chief of police could only comment on the figures.

This was a sexual assualt, and it was done by black male gangs.. yes they have them. The white girls from the schools cry out that they are getting harassed by these black male gangs.. NOT WHITE MALE GANGS. So what are we suppose to do..?? ignore that there is a different mentality happening between black male youths and white male youths?

This is historic moment.

I agree with The Legacy. Liberal PC needs to go out the window. Stats do not lie.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by sherie

Rumours rumours and more rumours. Nobody really knows what the girl went through except for her and whom ever is in trouble. Just because she allegedly gave it up doesn't mean it's ok to be assaulted. This is disturbing...very disturbing. How do you know this teenage girl in highschool btw?

they are friends of my niece - I was concerned and remembered that some of her friends were in that school so we chatted this morning and they vented their concerns - I am merely forwarding the comments made by them.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

unfortunately yes in talking directly to a white student who is there - she liked black guys and often at that age was having sex and bj's for them. The thing is that the black males have also taken upon themselves to assume that every girl can be harassed, and even if she was asking for it.. other girls arent. My friend there is not a whore nor are her friends - but from what I am being told, most white girls are continually harassed and they are glad these black guys are in jail (although with canadian law, they will be out shortly) and then the racial fighting will get worse... even more than it is now a day after.

Wait... so if a girl regularly has sex with guys, she's asking for being gangraped? What kind of idiotic logic is that?

[Fletch XXX]

Farrakhan tells us that separatism is the answer.

[Manowar]

giants black meat white treat?

[Triple 6]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

unfortunately yes in talking directly to a white student who is there - she liked black guys and often at that age was having sex and bj's for them. The thing is that the black males have also taken upon themselves to assume that every girl can be harassed, and even if she was asking for it.. other girls arent. My friend there is not a whore nor are her friends - but from what I am being told, most white girls are continually harassed and they are glad these black guys are in jail (although with canadian law, they will be out shortly) and then the racial fighting will get worse... even more than it is now a day after.

i wouldnt pin it on ' black guys' in general... every person is a product of their environment. If white or indian or chinese or aliens grew up around people that treat women like that, more then likely they will pick up those traits

[MickeyG]

Would you be even more angry if your daughter was raped by a black guy rather then a white one?

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by punkworld

Wait... so if a girl regularly has sex with guys, she's asking for being gangraped? What kind of idiotic logic is that?

First I am not saying that she deserves anything, I am only forwarding to you what has transpired and comments made by those closer to her than the reporters on TV.

Secondly, she was NOT gang raped - instead it was a matter of having sex with one or two of the guys while there was a few look outs. There was NOT 16 guys hanging around the stairwell bathroom.. most of these guys were not even around when she was assaulted, but were named by her to the police earlier as being those that has sexually assualted her over a year in school.

She is going after all the guys who "abused" her over a years period.

The people I spoke to from the school werent there in the bathroom etc. and the police are currently reviewing the video tape from the stairwell and bathroom to verify her story.

She can have sex with as many guys as she wants, black or white... but what is being said by some students is that this was going on for a year... with many of the guys she mentioned... that she appeared to never have a problem with it and was continually mocked by other girls and guys in the school as a whore for doing it. What is being addressed is as to whether she came to the conclusion to either "come clean" that she was being harassed or as to whether she is "attempted" to stop the rumours about herself by "claiming" she is being harassed.

Finally I am once again forwarding to you the comments made by an actual white student who states that the gangs in the schools tend to be mostly black and that they have no respect or care for the girls and often/daily harass all the white girls (it appears) grabbing them etc. and that currently there is a racial war going on between whites and blacks in the schools saying that the 'black' youths are blaming the 'white' youths for this.

[Fletch XXX]

1 in 4 women are raped during their life in the United States.

this is a male tendency and has little to do with black or white.

although in cases like this, when a GROUP of BLACKS attack a SINGLE WHITE GIRL - the reporting of color should be seen as determining factor.

rape is rape and america is plagued by it.

1 in 4 women - thats a war on women right in your backyard - aqnd most men do not care.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by Triple 6

i wouldnt pin it on ' black guys' in general... every person is a product of their environment. If white or indian or chinese or aliens grew up around people that treat women like that, more then likely they will pick up those traits

I personally am not pinning it on any color - I am only forwarding you the comments made by the students and from past experiences with the chief of police in what he went through in reporting the crime rates in toronto

[JimmiDean]

I saw this several times on the news last night.
I suspect there will be a lot more to this story before it is over.

[Maxy]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

1 in 4 women are raped during their life in the United States.

this is a male tendency and has little to do with black or white.

although in cases like this, when a GROUP of BLACKS attack a SINGLE WHITE GIRL - the reporting of color should be seen as determining factor.

rape is rape and america is plagued by it.

1 in 4 women - thats a war on women right in your backyard - aqnd most men do not care.

Right on dude

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

1 in 4 women are raped during their life in the United States.

this is a male tendency and has little to do with black or white.

although in cases like this, when a GROUP of BLACKS attack a SINGLE WHITE GIRL - the reporting of color should be seen as determining factor.

rape is rape and america is plagued by it.

1 in 4 women - thats a war on women right in your backyard - aqnd most men do not care.

I am in agreement with you.. and in addition I believe that a large percentage of that figure also states that most women are sexually assualted by a family member and someone they know.

I have been attempting to say that I am in no way prejudice to anyone - but merely forwarding the comments of students who are in that school directly and what they are feeling is the cause.

Whether it is the media or police racial profiling... you will see on the news that crimes committed within toronto are more slanted to the black/jamaican culture - how can I deny that fact?

[Fletch XXX]

its okay to be a little racist, deep down we all are. ;)

[Anthony]

I see no differnece in reporting if they were east indian, asian, etc.

About 2 or 3 years ago, there were a rash of attacks from East Indian men in the Abbotsford BC area where I lived. They were done from mini vans and by multiple men. Giving out that they were East Indian was just as important as giving out the type of cars to watch for, imho.

[TheLegacy]

This is a graph directly from the department of justice - once again - anyone posting this or commenting is called a racist or racial profiling - I am not a racist, but how else do I interpret the results?



http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/race.htm

Serious violent victimization rates by race, 1973-2004
Serious violent crimes included are homicide, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.

Adjusted rate per 1,000 persons age 12+
Year White Black
1973 20.0 37.3
1974 20.9 37.3
1975 19.1 36.7
1976 18.8 38.2
1977 19.4 34.4
1978 18.8 33.2
1979 19.6 33.2
1980 18.7 34.0
1981 19.7 40.4
1982 19.0 36.9
1983 16.3 33.1
1984 17.1 32.7
1985 15.6 28.9
1986 15.6 25.2
1987 15.0 33.8
1988 16.0 31.4
1989 16.1 29.5
1990 15.4 31.8
1991 16.2 31.3
1992 16.9 33.0
1993 17.8 34.3
1994 17.1 33.5
1995 13.5 26.4
1996 13.3 26.3
1997 12.9 20.7
1998 11.6 19.2
1999 10.2 19.5
2000 8.7 16.2
2001 8.4 12.7
2002 6.6 13.0
2003 6.5 12.8
2004 6.3 11.2


am I sexiest to say that men commit more crimes than women in canada?

http://www.fradical.com/Violent_crim...ics_Canada.htm

[sherie]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

they are friends of my niece - I was concerned and remembered that some of her friends were in that school so we chatted this morning and they vented their concerns - I am merely forwarding the comments made by them.

I was just curious is all. I wasn't meaning to infer anything, besides the fact that rumours can hurt someone just as much as the act. Either way it's disgusting, I heard on the news it was a good portion of their basketball team. That neighbourhood is getting more and more dangerous. Sad.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Triple 6

i wouldnt pin it on ' black guys' in general... every person is a product of their environment. If white or indian or chinese or aliens grew up around people that treat women like that, more then likely they will pick up those traits

Bullshit. People have the choice to do the right thing. Always. The majority won't, but that's a different thing altogether.

[Phoenix]

oh shit..wheres my pickup keys

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by sherie

I was just curious is all. I wasn't meaning to infer anything, besides the fact that rumours can hurt someone just as much as the act. Either way it's disgusting, I heard on the news it was a good portion of their basketball team. That neighbourhood is getting more and more dangerous. Sad.

I agree with you totally. This is truly sad for all parties involved, and as was mentioned I am hearing the school turning into a race war which upsets me even more. Everyone here remembers HS and the rumours and crap that goes on, and this situation only brings to the forefront the worst in mankind when we point fingers based on skin tone and gossip. Being from the same city we both also know the police efforts and what they are going through regarding all this, their judgement will be in question and the racial card will be played.

In your earlier statement you made mention that assault in any form is still assault and I hope that no one looses sight of that - unfortunately this is a pandora's box - where not only is sexual harassment between sexes is happening more often than anyone wants to admit, but it is now being mixed with our cultural stereotypes overshadowing the victims year long cry.

[Triple 6]

Originally Posted by punkworld

Bullshit. People have the choice to do the right thing. Always. The majority won't, but that's a different thing altogether.

not bullshit.

People DO have a choice, but the right thing to you may not be the right thing to them. The difference is how they were brought up, values instilled, etc. Same concept can be seen comparing different cultures.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

First I am not saying that she deserves anything, I am only forwarding to you what has transpired and comments made by those closer to her than the reporters on TV.

Secondly, she was NOT gang raped - instead it was a matter of having sex with one or two of the guys while there was a few look outs. There was NOT 16 guys hanging around the stairwell bathroom.. most of these guys were not even around when she was assaulted, but were named by her to the police earlier as being those that has sexually assualted her over a year in school.

She is going after all the guys who "abused" her over a years period.

The people I spoke to from the school werent there in the bathroom etc. and the police are currently reviewing the video tape from the stairwell and bathroom to verify her story.

She can have sex with as many guys as she wants, black or white... but what is being said by some students is that this was going on for a year... with many of the guys she mentioned... that she appeared to never have a problem with it and was continually mocked by other girls and guys in the school as a whore for doing it. What is being addressed is as to whether she came to the conclusion to either "come clean" that she was being harassed or as to whether she is "attempted" to stop the rumours about herself by "claiming" she is being harassed.

Finally I am once again forwarding to you the comments made by an actual white student who states that the gangs in the schools tend to be mostly black and that they have no respect or care for the girls and often/daily harass all the white girls (it appears) grabbing them etc. and that currently there is a racial war going on between whites and blacks in the schools saying that the 'black' youths are blaming the 'white' youths for this.

First of all, if you are going to post news stories that aren't true, it's probably a good idea to give an indication of that in your post.

Second, in quoting someone saying she was probably asking for it, you said yes. The word "yes" has a well-defined meaning, and is not generally suitable for expressing disagreement.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Triple 6

not bullshit.

People DO have a choice, but the right thing to you may not be the right thing to them. The difference is how they were brought up, values instilled, etc. Same concept can be seen comparing different cultures.

That goes for many things, like eating with knife and fork, burying the dead, going to church - things like that.

However, harming others or taking advantage of them, in a broader sense victimizing others, is something for which we can always be held responsible. We see the effects of our actions, and because empathy is something we should always learn from our contacts with others, we should be able to decide on the right thing.

[OG LennyT]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

1 in 4 women are raped during their life in the United States.

this is a male tendency and has little to do with black or white.

although in cases like this, when a GROUP of BLACKS attack a SINGLE WHITE GIRL - the reporting of color should be seen as determining factor.

rape is rape and america is plagued by it.

1 in 4 women - thats a war on women right in your backyard - aqnd most men do not care.

When quoting inflammatory stats, please cite a source.

[Quagmire]

Never mind race. Its them fucking Catholics up to no good again. First its the priests diddling little kids, now its the teenagers raping other teenagers.

God damn Catholics...

[gornyhuy]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

This is a graph directly from the department of justice - once again - anyone posting this or commenting is called a racist or racial profiling - I am not a racist, but how else do I interpret the results?

You could read the graph... it says RACE OF VICTIM.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by dvd316

When quoting inflammatory stats, please cite a source.

these numbers have been used to describe rape in the US for more than the past decade. I said 1 in 4, but its even reported as 1 in 3!

http://asucd.ucdavis.edu/organizatio.../mar/facts.htm

1 out of every 3 American women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime.
1 in 7 women will be raped by her husband.

61% of all rape cases are victims less than 18 years old. 22% are between the ages of 18 and 24.

In a survey of college women, 38% reported sexual victimization which met the legal definition of a rape or attempted rape, yet only 1 out of every 25 reported their assault to the police.

1 in 4 college women have either been raped or suffered attempted rape.

Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

In 1995, 354,670 women were the victims of a rape or sexual assault. (NationalCrime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, 1996.)

Over the last two years, more than 787,000 women were the victim of a rape or sexual assault. (National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S.Department of Justice, 1996.)

The FBI estimates that 72 of every 100,000 females in the United States wereraped last year. (Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Statistics, 1996.)

http://www.paralumun.com/issuesrapestats.htm

rape is more common now than ever, as you see, even CHILDREN are raping other children.

[media]

Legacy, it looks to me like the rate of decline was more rapid with the blacks than it was with the whites, I see one massive spike i the 80's but that was right around the time of the major crack epidemic, so that would explain violent crimes increasing.

I don't think it's fair to pull a race card on anyone, there is only one race, the human race.. there are factors in class, up bringing, and much more that can determine if someone would do something like this...

How many white serial killers are there compared to black ones? There's all sorts of tangents and arguments that can be made on a slough of levels...

[Libertine]

On the race thing:

An analysis of the total number of arrests (all ages) and arrests of juveniles for forcible rape revealed similar racial patterns. Approximately 65.3 percent of all arrestees were white, 32.2 percent were black, and the remainder were of other races. Of juveniles arrested for forcible rape, 63.1 percent were white, 34.7 percent were black, and the remainder were of other races. (See Table 43.)

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offen...ible_rape.html

Ethnic groups:
Definition Field Listing
white 81.7%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.2% (2003 est.)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/us.html


Black people are 12.9% of the population, yet are responsible for 32.2% of all documented forcible rapes. That's a ~250% rate.

[toddler]

Originally Posted by gornyhuy

You could read the graph... it says RACE OF VICTIM.

haha, good catch

[shann]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

Never mind race. Its them fucking Catholics up to no good again. First its the priests diddling little kids, now its the teenagers raping other teenagers.

God damn Catholics...

LOL I was thinking the exact same thing.

[ElvisManson]

Yup...it must be the Catholics.

"By JOE FRIESEN
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 Posted at 1:12 PM EST
Globe and Mail Updat

Toronto ? Fifteen Toronto high school students charged in connection with allegations of repeated sexual assaults on a female student were granted bail on Tuesday morning.
Fourteen of those students received $1,500 in bail. One of the students, who is facing charges of sexual assault, received $2,000 bail.
One other teen was previously granted bail after his arrest last week."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...tory/National/

[sweetME]

That's crazy though...16 guys on one girl???

[HammerALL]

Originally Posted by sherie

Rumours rumours and more rumours. Nobody really knows what the girl went through except for her and whom ever is in trouble. Just because she allegedly gave it up doesn't mean it's ok to be assaulted. This is disturbing...very disturbing. How do you know this teenage girl in highschool btw?

It's on the front page of the Toronto Sun today - the girl attended the school - in guess where - Jane and Finch

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by ElvisManson

Yup...it must be the Catholics.

"By JOE FRIESEN
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 Posted at 1:12 PM EST
Globe and Mail Updat

Toronto ? Fifteen Toronto high school students charged in connection with allegations of repeated sexual assaults on a female student were granted bail on Tuesday morning.
Fourteen of those students received $1,500 in bail. One of the students, who is facing charges of sexual assault, received $2,000 bail.
One other teen was previously granted bail after his arrest last week."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...tory/National/

this is where i get to say i would like to be the first to bring back public lynching and i would line these kids up and as they say where i am from, hang em high.

nothing to do with color.

these kids will never amount to shit and should die.

let them sway from the trees

[Maxy]

Wtf.....