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Old 03-18-2002, 04:08 PM   #1
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Cogent can be fast!

OK, so you guys gave me shit about load times on Cogent, check it out now.

www.cologroup.com

It loads quicker than sites on Qwest, AT&T, and Exodus. I'd tell you guys what we did, but then I would have to shoot you!
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Old 03-18-2002, 04:10 PM   #2
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Nice spam

loads real quick for mainly text links etc

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Old 03-18-2002, 04:11 PM   #3
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okay the spam is out

what did u do?
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Old 03-18-2002, 04:13 PM   #5
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Since it is a programming and discussion board, I may let you guys know.....We'll see.
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Old 03-18-2002, 04:14 PM   #6
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I'm on cogent, and its great
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Old 03-18-2002, 04:32 PM   #7
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Since it is a programming and discussion board, I may let you guys know.....We'll see.
"programming board", lol , good one
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Old 03-18-2002, 04:34 PM   #8
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Old 03-18-2002, 07:12 PM   #9
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LOL, that is too funny. Well, anyways, Cogent Rocks and we are faster than ever!

Lets give it up for all the people that have saved $1000's with Cogent! Life is Good!
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Old 03-18-2002, 07:24 PM   #10
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I'd tell you guys what we did
You got some rack space and bandwidth at cari and now offering web hosting on that?
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Old 03-18-2002, 07:25 PM   #11
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Not quite, we added some equipment and did some nifty networking to get faster throughput...good one though!
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Old 03-18-2002, 07:51 PM   #12
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Not quite, we added some equipment and did some nifty networking to get faster throughput...good one though!
Equipment? No matter what networking "equipment" you use, you can not make a 1000 Mbps pipe more than 1000 Mbps or a 250 Mbps peering point more than 250 Mbps.

I'm sure that the guy in the rack next to you is getting exactly the same speed from/on his cogent connection as you are.
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Old 03-18-2002, 07:53 PM   #13
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Are you in the same building? We can test the speed difference. What I have been talking about is a matter of improving the network efficiency.

If I did something to improve how we handle traffic, you'll see a speed difference. You can have 2 hosting companies one on a pipe slighlty faster than the other, but if the company that is a little slower does something to make up for the performance difference that the other does not, they baiscally would appear to have similar performance. Only difference is once company is saving some serious cash!
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Actually, you can add equipment to allow you to exceed the 'natural' speed of your pipe, but equipment must be added to both ends of the pipe.

On the other hand, there is definately equipment you can add to improve the effeciency of an inifficient pipe -- and it only needs to be added on one end.
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Old 03-18-2002, 07:58 PM   #15
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No, but I'm familiar with it and I actually already compared the speed of your web site with other servers in the same building on the same connection.

AdultWire, you could use compression and other techniques to allow you to send more data in a smaller amount of time but the maximum speed of the actual pipe will not change and as you said, you need to have the equipment or software at both ends.

Yes, you can improve the efficiency of an "inifficient pipe" but "pimpshost" is implying they have been able to get faster speeds using cogent than anyone else using cogent, even faster than using Qwest and AT&T (obviously, one assumes that he is talking about properly configured Qwest and AT&T connections).

or maybe by "we are faster than ever!" and "we added some equipment and did some nifty networking to get faster throughput..." he just means that they had inefficient configurations before and have improved them, NOI.
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Old 03-18-2002, 08:08 PM   #16
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Still loads slow to me, but I still think Cogent is great bandwidth for TGP's, Gallery Posters, Free Hosts etc..
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Old 03-18-2002, 08:10 PM   #17
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Pimpshost as usual is full of shit
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Old 03-18-2002, 08:13 PM   #18
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It is not improving the performance of the pipe, it is improving the way traffic is handled when it hits us. We handled traffic fine, but added new equipment to improve performance.

It has a lot to do with caching and request handling.

And FYI, everyone that has looked at it today thinks it is fast, except the few skepticals as usual.
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No, but I'm familiar with it and I actually already compared the speed of your web site with other servers in the same building on the same connection.

AdultWire, you could use compression and other techniques to allow you to send more data in a smaller amount of time but the maximum speed of the actual pipe will not change and as you said, you need to have the equipment or software at both ends.

Yes, you can improve the efficiency of an "inifficient pipe" but "pimpshost" is implying they have been able to get faster speeds using cogent than anyone else using cogent, even faster than using Qwest and AT&T (obviously, one assumes that he is talking about properly configured Qwest and AT&T connections).

or maybe by "we are faster than ever!" and "we added some equipment and did some nifty networking to get faster throughput..." he just means that they had inefficient configurations before and have improved them, NOI.
i dont think he was implying that, I think he made some tweeks to his setup to help improve his speed, and wanted to show people that Cogent in general isnt bad like most people think...

I am a convert... It is GREAT for TGP traffic.... Low overhead, perfect!
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It is not improving the performance of the pipe, it is improving the way traffic is handled when it hits us.
You mean the way traffic is sent back to the client? Do you have control over routing inside the cogent network?

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dont think he was implying that, I think he made some tweeks to his setup to help improve his speed, and wanted to show people that Cogent in general isnt bad like most people think...

He said "It loads quicker than sites on Qwest, AT&T, and Exodus", IMO that means he was able to improve "his speed" way beyond what his cogent connection is capable of.
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Old 03-18-2002, 08:22 PM   #21
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Last week kman was saying:

"cogent is to bandwith, as the flea market is to clothes shopping

period....


http://www.webair.com

rox0rz your boxorz!"





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Old 03-18-2002, 08:24 PM   #22
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Im with RK

The dude is trying to bullshit his way into making others think he has some magick




lets se some credibitlity or evidence



And it looks like a fucked up way to spam his two bit service

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You know, I actually crawled into the Cogent pipe line, inserted the B1X5 Performance Conversion Kit at the major peering points, increasing our performance triple fold. I have checked it on our x-gigo-nanometer and it appears to be excellerating the fibertronics laser nanoons triple fold.

I am still not sure if the FBI would approve, but it was worth a shot!
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Nipp it in the Butt and steer the Bull by the horns. Take it for what it is worth!
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Old 03-18-2002, 09:11 PM   #25
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Cologroup - I have a proposal for you. I currently have 3 dedicated servers located in what I believe is the same facility as you. Host2Own/Carinet....Each server is hooked up to a 10 mbps dedicated cogent line.

I am now in the market for another new server. Would you be interested in uploading one of my pages to your server? Then I can do an apples to apples test, and run page loading tests from the same 30 locations worldwide that I test my current sites from daily.

I have made some alterations to my servers already to optimize preformance - deactivated keepalive - auto deletion of log files as soon as they hit 50 megs.

Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks.
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For dewpoint or anyone who wants to test it out, give me a URL and I will make a directory for you on the cologroup.com server. I can suck down your site from the home page URL and then I will upload it.

Also send me your ICQ# if you have one or email me [email protected]
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Keep us up to date on the test results.
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Old 03-18-2002, 11:25 PM   #28
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Nipp it in the Butt and steer the Bull by the horns. Take it for what it is worth!
Your shit is fast and cheap, only problem I have is I remember reading you up and moving before and screwing people over.

I don't know if the money I would save is worth not being able to sleep knowing you might disappear with my stuff.
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Your shit is fast and cheap, only problem I have is I remember reading you up and moving before and screwing people over.

I don't know if the money I would save is worth not being able to sleep knowing you might disappear with my stuff.
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Read my last post on this thread.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=53979

Only one customer ever had anything negative to say and he appears to be happy now. All the other horn tooters are just random people starting shit for entertainment. Actually, you'll find more posts of customers saying to host with me then not. We'll no customer has actually said not to host with me.

And as for the name change, I thought the name Hosting.FM sucked from the begginig, so it was just a matter of time before we switched to Cologroup.com. I already had the name before we had the problem in November and all my customers where well informed of what was going on. I even have the same cell number and our billing address never changed. I did not run from anyone and we still have most of our customers because I was upfront.

Our company is solid, we do our best to make sure we have satisfied customers, and I am not going anywhere. I live in La Jolla and I love this place. You can stop by if you live around here or visit the area.

So if you are interested, but unsure, ICQ me and I will get you reference, URLs, what ever you want. You'd be suprised what level of support and dedication to making our customers happy there is in relation to the price.

Oh, and one more thing, this business is my life. I'll spend all night on here explaining myself if I am misunderstood.
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Pimpshost...

I have a brand new toilet that's throughput sucks because the city's sewage system is currently oversubscribed... the shitpipes that go from my house to the steet are excellent... But the city's network of shitpipes are just clogged with too much shit!!!

Are you suggesting that by simply tweaking my toilet or perhaps using a different toilet bowl cleaner I can make my toilet flush BETTER than a new toilet on a clean shitpipe network??

Sorry for the toilet analogy, but when you said cogentco it was the first thing to come to mind!!!
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bottom line is pimpshost has fucked people once maybe twice

and now trying to redeem himself
comes here spamming and no one has ever heard of him except for the flight in the middle of the night story and some guy saying he wouldnt pay him money he owed and ran off with his servers, until pressure was put on him on this board did he pay the guy.

fuck that when there is money involved

you cant polish a turd

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KC he will crawl down the pipes and push all the slow shit out the other side of the pipe for you. and he will do it for the low low price of $.6.00
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I wonder if I could get that service on a per flush price breakdown?
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I have a brand new toilet that's throughput sucks because the city's sewage system is currently oversubscribed... the shitpipes that go from my house to the steet are excellent... But the city's network of shitpipes are just clogged with too much shit!!!

Are you suggesting that by simply tweaking my toilet or perhaps using a different toilet bowl cleaner I can make my toilet flush BETTER than a new toilet on a clean shitpipe network??

Sorry for the toilet analogy, but when you said cogentco it was the first thing to come to mind!!!
Well, I got your anology, so let me break it down for you....

You are quick to blame the sewage problem at your house on the city's pipes, when it is actually the plumbing in your house. I noticed you are running the default plumbing system which does not work well with the size shit your are trying to flush. And don't worry, you are not alone, you can find this problem in many homes.

The big problem is that since you are just a renter, your landlord would have to upgrade the plumbing. Since your landlord either can't afford this upgrade or does not have the resources to deploy it, your only other option is to find another rental property.

To make this easy, we have lots of rental properties you would be interested. We recently upgraded the plumbing systems on all our properties to handle an extra large amount of shit. This is proven plumbing technology, and we have been flushing shit for quite some time. It really works great.

And one last thing, our rental properties are identical to yours, just about 1/2 the price. Most of our renters spend the money they save on rent to go have fun and drive nice cars.
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Read my last post on this thread.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=53979

Only one customer ever had anything negative to say and he appears to be happy now. All the other horn tooters are just random people starting shit for entertainment. Actually, you'll find more posts of customers saying to host with me then not. We'll no customer has actually said not to host with me.

And as for the name change, I thought the name Hosting.FM sucked from the begginig, so it was just a matter of time before we switched to Cologroup.com. I already had the name before we had the problem in November and all my customers where well informed of what was going on. I even have the same cell number and our billing address never changed. I did not run from anyone and we still have most of our customers because I was upfront.

Our company is solid, we do our best to make sure we have satisfied customers, and I am not going anywhere. I live in La Jolla and I love this place. You can stop by if you live around here or visit the area.

So if you are interested, but unsure, ICQ me and I will get you reference, URLs, what ever you want. You'd be suprised what level of support and dedication to making our customers happy there is in relation to the price.

Oh, and one more thing, this business is my life. I'll spend all night on here explaining myself if I am misunderstood.

Well your post says you were shut down for warez and spamming, what makes you think that won't happen in the future? If it does do you plan to pay me for what $$$ loss occurs by people not getting to my sites?
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Why is everybody trying to slash other peoples and their businesses down? Is it jealousy or something else? I don't get it.
If you don't trust somebody then don't do business! People that really screw others will not survive and certainly not here on this board. But too many times I see midget brain people just slashing around on other people without anything to back it up.
I wonder how you would feel if people went on BBS slandering
around you had KP on your sites?

Oh and I'm not affiliated to cologroup in any way....it was just
that I notice this kind of bullshit again and thought I should bring it up!

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We where shut down for SPAMing. It was a learning experience and I would have dealt with it better had I known what I know now. Every company is taking SPAM seriously now and I happened to be an example of what can happen if you don't.

Things are great now and no customers are joining this thread with anything bad to say....Just you guys. So, I am getting to spend my Monday night firefighting you guys trying to talk shit. How fun.

And by the way, did I ever do anything to you guys or is this just pick a fight night?
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Only one customer ever had anything negative to say and he appears to be happy now. All the other horn tooters are just random people starting shit for entertainment. Actually, you'll find more posts of customers saying to host with me then not. We'll no customer has actually said not to host with me.

And as for the name change, I thought the name Hosting.FM sucked from the begginig, so it was just a matter of time before we switched to Cologroup.com.
Looks like some other companies are having to explain they are not you i.e., hosting.fm, and with good reason...

http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread...ght=Hosting.FM

"If they are same guys from hosting.fm I would stay away."

"I spoke to a guy at colo.fm and he told me that hosting.fm was a completely different company that got shut down because "they either were violating Cogent's spam policy or didn't pay their bill"."

And another thread;

"No, COLO.FM and hosting.fm are two different company. Cogent pulled the plug on hosting.fm because of numerous spam violations. Also, rumor has it that Jason (aka hosting.fm) is setting up shop again somewhere down in San Diego."

looks like you are well loved in the hosting industry... And Live365.com being down for close to a week when they hosted with you was also brilliant - They even got listed on Fucked Company for awhile.

Im sure they will throw you a recomendation
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Old 03-19-2002, 12:35 AM   #40
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ButtHorn, I just noticed, you have 15 posts and they are all talking shit about me? Do you want to reveal your real identity? Or did you actually just join the board tonight and think it is cool to bash someone you dont know?
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not bashing you, just following this saga
it is very interesting

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What, guilt that you posted that last post about me catching on? Why did you edit it? Jackass! Who the fuck are you?
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Old 03-19-2002, 12:42 AM   #43
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You are quick to blame the sewage problem at your house on the city's pipes, when it is actually the plumbing in your house.

Actually, the plumbing in my house is brand new shitpiping from CiscoShitSupply Co. and FoundryPooPiping, Inc... We thought that was the problem, but alas our upgrades solved nothing.

Little did we know that the city sewage was built and maintained by CongentCrap Co.... Notorious for over subscribing their shit tubes.

Upon switching our upstream shitpiping provider to new providers and we can flush some of the biggest loads around. In fact, I'd bet we have the bandwidth to handle the load of shit that's been piled into this thread!!!

Good luck with the Cogent Co. B/W.. At least your customers know what they're getting into..
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spelling errors were edited!

i have nothing against you

just dont like the board spamming

you rubbing people the wrong way


had to edit again, wrong damn smilies

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No toilet could handle that.
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Old 03-19-2002, 12:53 AM   #47
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either he'll aquire new customers and keep old/current ones, or he'll be out of business. gfy likely won't have much effect on that...
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Sorry for rubbing you guys the wrong way, it's all good! I think I got your point...anyways.

KC -> Check this out

http://www.bangedup.com/Current/Taki...tfullspeed.AVI

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That's pretty damn sick man...

If only that were on a faster connection it would be perfect!!! ;)
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