It sure is a good thing you can't buy guns in Holland - GoFuckYourself.com

Shoehorn! · 11-10-2005, 11:09 PM

Right Franck.

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/unkno... _10_2005.html.

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:08 AM

Yes it is. Because right now all the criminals are shooting eachother. If we all had guns everybody would be shooting eachother.

Ofcourse you dont know the story about these pics so let me tell it real quick. The "unknown" man is actually a well known criminal. He's the 4th criminal in 2 weeks time that got assassinated. They all know eachother and it's most likely the same person who is getting them killed because obviously he wants them to shut up about something.

Fletch XXX · 11-11-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Yes it is. Because right now all the criminals are shooting eachother. If we all had guns everybody would be shooting eachother.

yes, and everyone who owns a knife is a killer!

And because alcohol is legal, everyone is an alcoholic!

(sometimes you weirdos say the dumbest of dumb shit)

Fred Quimby · 11-11-2005, 11:10 AM

they put a tent over the guy so he would not get wet?

11-11-2005, 11:13 AM

yes Fred it is raining most of the day in the Netherlands.
OMG

Libertine · 11-11-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

yes, and everyone who owns a knife is a killer!

And because alcohol is legal, everyone is an alcoholic!

(sometimes you weirdos say the dumbest of dumb shit)

Owning a knife makes one much more likely to slice vegetables or cut meat. Possession of alcohol makes one much more likely to get drunk. Owning a gun makes a person much more likely to shoot someone.

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

yes, and everyone who owns a knife is a killer!

And because alcohol is legal, everyone is an alcoholic!

(sometimes you weirdos say the dumbest of dumb shit)

Go shoot yourself in the face idiot.

Shoehorn! · 11-11-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

Owning a knife makes one much more likely to slice vegetables or cut meat. Possession of alcohol makes one much more likely to get drunk. Owning a gun makes a person much more likely to shoot someone.

I guarantee you can't find statistical facts to back that up.

BigCashCrew · 11-11-2005, 11:17 AM

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yes Fred it is raining most of the day in the Netherlands.
OMG

haha funny

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

Owning a knife makes one much more likely to slice vegetables or cut meat. Possession of alcohol makes one much more likely to get drunk. Owning a gun makes a person much more likely to shoot someone.

Gun loving idiots will simply reject this.

Fletch XXX · 11-11-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Go shoot yourself in the face idiot.

how many drinks have you had today Battuss?

Libertine · 11-11-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

I guarantee you can't find statistical facts to back that up.

So you are saying people who don't have guns shoot as many people as those who do have guns?

What exactly do they shoot them with then? Bow and arrow?

Shoehorn! · 11-11-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

So you are saying people who don't have guns shoot as many people as those who do have guns?

What exactly do they shoot them with then? Bow and arrow?

No, I am saying that because you own a gun doesn't mean that you are going to go out and shoot someone.

Screaming · 11-11-2005, 11:21 AM

You can get a gun anywhere if you want it bad enuff.

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

So you are saying people who don't have guns shoot as many people as those who do have guns?

What exactly do they shoot them with then? Bow and arrow?

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

No, I am saying that because you own a gun doesn't mean that you are going to go out and shoot someone.

Want me to pull up the stats again of gun murders and maybe more important accidental gun kills in the States compared to Holland?

psili · 11-11-2005, 11:25 AM

These threads amuse me.

Go get 'em Franck.

Libertine · 11-11-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

No, I am saying that because you own a gun doesn't mean that you are going to go out and shoot someone.

That isn't what I said. What I said was:

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Owning a gun makes a person much more likely to shoot someone.

Which is true beyond any doubt.

sumphatpimp · 11-11-2005, 11:27 AM

their we go, that looks alot better

Shoehorn! · 11-11-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Want me to pull up the stats again of gun murders and maybe more important accidental gun kills in the States compared to Holland?

Go ahead, but its not going to change my mind about anything. Just because you own a gun doesn't mean that you will one day wake up, see the gun, be so overwhelmed by its screaming "Pick me up and kill someone," that you won't be able to resist, and you will go out and kill someone. Anyone who thinks that guns force people to kill people are seriously delusional. Obviously the more guns in a country the more gun deaths, just like the more cars you have the more car accidents. Hey, I bet that there are a hell of a lot more bike accidents in Holland than there are in the States, does that mean we should ban bikes from your country?

Shoehorn! · 11-11-2005, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

That isn't what I said. What I said was:

Which is true beyond any doubt.

Yes, I agree. Eating chicken makes it much more likely to choke on a chicken bone too, should we outlaw chicken?

psili · 11-11-2005, 11:33 AM

I remember chopping veggies one night for dinner and the fucking knife went right for my finger. Right for it man. That knife gashed my finger without any warning at all.

I've since banned all knives in my house because they cut fingers.

Scary knives.

Shoehorn! · 11-11-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by psili

I remember chopping veggies one night for dinner and the fucking knife went right for my finger. Right for it man. That knife gashed my finger without any warning at all.

I've since banned all knives in my house because they cut fingers.

Scary knives.

If you have curtains in your kitchen then they're more likely to catch on fire than curtains that don't exist. I am hoping to get a bill passed by Congress outlawing all forms of curtains or curtain accessories in kitchens.

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Go ahead, but its not going to change my mind about anything. Just because you own a gun doesn't mean that you will one day wake up, see the gun, be so overwhelmed by its screaming "Pick me up and kill someone,"

No, yet so many people have guns in the States that it does happen. And a lot.

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Yes, I agree. Eating chicken makes it much more likely to choke on a chicken bone too, should we outlaw chicken?

Here we go again, gun loving retard cliche arguments.

Chickens arent made to kill guns are.

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

If you have curtains in your kitchen then they're more likely to catch on fire than curtains that don't exist. I am hoping to get a bill passed by Congress outlawing all forms of curtains or curtain accessories in kitchens.

PATHETIC argument.

Libertine · 11-11-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Go ahead, but its not going to change my mind about anything. Just because you own a gun doesn't mean that you will one day wake up, see the gun, be so overwhelmed by its screaming "Pick me up and kill someone," that you won't be able to resist, and you will go out and kill someone. Anyone who thinks that guns force people to kill people are seriously delusional. Obviously the more guns in a country the more gun deaths, just like the more cars you have the more car accidents. Hey, I bet that there are a hell of a lot more bike accidents in Holland than there are in the States, does that mean we should ban bikes from your country?

If you don't own a gun, you won't flip out and start shooting people. Just because you can't.

Guns are a very effective means of killing people. That means that if people freak out, berserk, go psycho, want revenge, go on a killing spree or simply aren't taking it anymore, guns will greatly increase the damage they can and will do.

Guns don't drive people to kill, but they help people who are trying to kill.

psili · 11-11-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

If you have curtains in your kitchen then they're more likely to catch on fire than curtains that don't exist.

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Originally Posted by Franck

PATHETIC argument.

Yea, Shoehorn.

WTF.

That's like saying you're more likely to slip and fall on a floor covered in marbles than a floor that has no marbles. -- What are you thinking?

adultguus · 11-11-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Hey, I bet that there are a hell of a lot more bike accidents in Holland than there are in the States, does that mean we should ban bikes from your country?

Dude, a bike is a vehicel, a gun is a weapon. What else can you do with a gun than shoot somebody or something? When somebody got killed riding a bike, than it's called an accident. When somebody got killed by a gun, the gun did what it was made for.

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by adultguus

Dude, a bike is a vehicel, a gun is a weapon. What else can you do with a gun than shoot somebody or something? When somebody got killed riding a bike, than it's called an accident. When somebody got killed by a gun, the gun did what it was made for.

This is 100% correct yet these gun freaks simply will not understand this. They refuse to do so.

psili · 11-11-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

Guns don't drive people to kill, but they help people who are trying to kill.

Yes, guns are an effective weapon.

psili · 11-11-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by adultguus

Dude, a bike is a vehicel, a gun is a weapon. What else can you do with a gun than shoot somebody or something? When somebody got killed riding a bike, than it's called an accident. When somebody got killed by a gun, the gun did what it was made for.

If a bike lock could kill someone,
"College student beaten to death with own bike lock", imagine what damage a bike could do.

I'm banning all bikes from my house now, too.

Libertine · 11-11-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Yes, I agree. Eating chicken makes it much more likely to choke on a chicken bone too, should we outlaw chicken?

Chicken bones may slightly increase the risk of accidents.
Guns greatly increase the chance of success of attempted murder.

I am not against guns because idiots may accidentally shoot themselves, but because those idiots may deliberately shoot me. Banning guns is not about protecting people from themselves, but about protecting people from other people.

adultguus · 11-11-2005, 11:52 AM

And on topic, the people of ogrish.com are not very well informed. The guy that was shot was far from unknown. It was a very well-known criminal (as Franck already said) in Amsterdam, George van Kleef.

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by psili

If a bike lock could kill someone,
"College student beaten to death with own bike lock", imagine what damage a bike could do.

I'm banning all bikes from my house now, too.

Just for you because youre a bit thick:

Locks werent made to kill guns are.

adultguus · 11-11-2005, 11:54 AM

Here is the story + video for the Dutchies. http://www.nu.nl/news/623779/19/Opni...8video%29.html

psili · 11-11-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Just for you because youre a bit thick:

Locks werent made to kill guns are.

But did the [replaceable value]"bike lock"[/replaceable value] kill the person?

*shrug*

Dirty F · 11-11-2005, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by adultguus

Here is the story + video for the Dutchies. http://www.nu.nl/news/623779/19/Opni...8video%29.html

Haha only in Holland the killers flee the crime scene on bikes

Libertine · 11-11-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by psili

But did the [replaceable value]"bike lock"[/replaceable value] kill the person?

*shrug*

Nukes don't kill people, people kill people!
Unban the nukes!

psili · 11-11-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Haha only in Holland the killers flee the crime scene on bikes

That would make a sweet spoof - imagine the car chase scene from Blues Brothers done on bicycles.

adultguus · 11-11-2005, 12:03 PM

I bet that people like Willem Holleeder (kidnapper of Heineken, yes the former owner of the beer brand) and Willem van Boxtel, former president of Hells Angels Amsterdam, who had to leave the club in 'bad standing' will also be assassinated within 1 year here in Holland.

Shoehorn! · 11-11-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Just for you because youre a bit thick:

Locks werent made to kill guns are.

I think you're missing the point here, its not whether or not it was designed to kill, its the fact that it can/did kill. Some indigenous people have been using guns to kill food for years, years and years before a bunch of idiot gangster wannabes and drunken rednecks used them to kill each other. Does this mean that it would have been better for them to not have guns ever, that way they couldn't protect themselves from voracious elk and mountain lions eager to eat their whole village? Or that instead of hunting to eat, they should have just eaten dirt until they died?

You need to think outside the box here man. I know society has programmed you all to think a certain way about guns and to not use your imagination, but let loose for once and use your imagination.

Shoehorn! · 11-11-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by adultguus

I bet that people like Willem Holleeder (kidnapper of Heineken, yes the former owner of the beer brand) and Willem van Boxtel, former president of Hells Angels Amsterdam, who had to leave the club in 'bad standing' will also be assassinated within 1 year here in Holland.

I love Heineken.

bjjb · 11-11-2005, 12:06 PM

When I was there 2 summers ago some stupid fucker tried to rob a gas station with an unloaded grenade launcher. Coulda been bad if it had been loaded. I say give em guns! Less dangerous that way

pradaboy · 11-11-2005, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Quimby

they put a tent over the guy so he would not get wet?

So the crime scene doesn't get wet... you're a regular genius aren't you.

adultguus · 11-11-2005, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

I love Heineken.

It was one of the first big kidnaps here in Holland (around 1984 I think). Leader was Cor van Hout (assessinated 3 years ago) and there where Frans Meijer (went crazy), Jan Boellaard (still a big criminal) and Willem Holleeder (one of the biggest criminals in Amsterdam). Target was former owner of Heineken, Freddie Heineken (died of natural causes later).

It was a very spectacular time here in the Netherlands. Later Cor van Hout published a book in which he describes all preperations they took before the kidnap and everything that happened during. Very interesting to read.

Shoehorn! · 11-11-2005, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by adultguus

It was one of the first big kidnaps here in Holland (around 1984 I think). Leader was Cor van Hout (assessinated 3 years ago) and there where Frans Meijer (went crazy), Jan Boellaard (still a big criminal) and Willem Holleeder (one of the biggest criminals in Amsterdam). Target was former owner of Heineken, Freddie Heineken (died of natural causes later).

It was a very spectacular time here in the Netherlands. Later Cor van Hout published a book in which he describes all preperations they took before the kidnap and everything that happened during. Very interesting to read.

I think I saw pictures of that Heineken guy when I went through the old Heineken brewery tour. Was he the one who more or less turned Heineken into a major brewer and made it really profitable?

Phoenix · 11-11-2005, 12:17 PM

ah so gang land cleaning house...good...things need to be shooken up now and then

Realpascal · 11-11-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Right Franck.

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/unkno... _10_2005.html.

No guns in Holland.

Maxy · 11-11-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Realpascal

No guns in Holland.

MMMMM nice one.

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Yes it is. Because right now all the criminals are shooting eachother. If we all had guns everybody would be shooting eachother. Ofcourse you dont know the story about these pics so let me tell it real quick. The "unknown" man is actually a well known criminal. He's the 4th criminal in 2 weeks time that got assassinated. They all know eachother and it's most likely the same person who is getting them killed because obviously he wants them to shut up about something.

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