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Old 09-09-2005, 07:22 PM   #1
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my own dad ripped me off

Over 100k in the bank, just got a call from them today. I signed some docs for him a couple of years ago (its my father, i trusted him like no one else) . When I called him to tell about it he just hanged up on me. I'm very disappointed as he was my best friend ever.

I just wish someone here could take his website down and put a message on it... anyone able to do that?

Btw... be happy with the father you have. Certainly its not worse than mine.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:25 PM   #2
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throw grenades threw his window. im sure he'll come out and talk to you eventually
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:25 PM   #3
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:26 PM   #4
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If my father stole $100,000 from me I'd shoot his ass dead.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:26 PM   #5
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this thread is useless without site URL
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:28 PM   #6
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:29 PM   #7
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:29 PM   #8
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damn homie...

back then, your pops was the man homie. sucks to be in the situation that you're in.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:29 PM   #9
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this thread is useless without site URL
well, its a brazilian page about his farm hotel

http://www.fazendaportaldacanastra.com.br

not sure if you will understand
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:30 PM   #10
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:31 PM   #11
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:31 PM   #12
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:35 PM   #13
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I think taking his website down won't help much.

I hope he talks to you soon and explain why he did it and how he's going to pay you back
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:48 PM   #14
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damn that sucks, is he into gambling?
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let's here some more about the story

where did the money come from? was it an inheritance?

What were these docs you signed for?
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:55 PM   #16
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damn that sucks, is he into gambling?
nope... i think he used the money to build his hotel but he is not getting mutch from his investment.. now the fucker is hiding from me... oh well
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let's here some more about the story

where did the money come from? was it an inheritance?

What were these docs you signed for?
man thats a long story..

the money came from a bank as i already stated in my first post.. the bank is called "Banco do Brasil" - http://www.bb.com.br

He opened a company with his wife's father name just to get those loans as his name was already screwed up

I was a bailer (not sure if its the right word, just translated it on altavista) for a couple of loans he did in this company's name (over 100k)

something like that, sorry if i cant explain it better to you
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you're taking it cool for such amount of $; Me I'll be in jail for murder 10 seconds after I knew about it.
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not worth it. Its a hard lesson and one i'm sure most can agree on. NEVER MIX MONEY WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS!
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Hire a lawyer, sue him, get your money back (or atleast most of it) and never speak to him again.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:20 PM   #21
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man thats a long story..
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where did the money come from? was it an inheritance?
Probably Alvaro made this money working.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:30 PM   #23
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:32 PM   #25
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Probably Alvaro made this money working.
Actually it was a loan he got but the bank only accepted me as a bailer (fiador) because they knew i have enough money/properties to pay for it.. its not about the money only (of course im very pissed off about it too) but it was about the trusty i had in this man.. He doing something like that was totally imaginable for me
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totally unimaginable i meant
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Actually it was a loan he got but the bank only accepted me as a bailer (fiador) because they knew i have enough money/properties to pay for it.. its not about the money only (of course im very pissed off about it too) but it was about the trusty i had in this man.. He doing something like that was totally imaginable for me
So basically you were a cosigner for his loan and then he defaulted and took the money, so now the bank is going to make you repay the loan or they will take your property.

yah that really sucks, i can see where that would hurt you being your dad and all

does he have money? or is he broke? does he own anything? you can sue and put a lien on his property. or here is USA you can, have no idea there
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My father-in-law had a very similar problem with his brother, but instead of being a bailer (?) he had in his name a tiny % of his brother's company. He lost his car (very very old) and taxi license

His brother hides from him when he's in Fortaleza.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:46 PM   #29
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On God that sucks... is he your true father? (sorry if I asked)
I dont believe your own blood will traitor you, it's rare, I guess not at this days...
You better talk to him straight... as father and as a son!
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Try to call him again tomorrow, he might not hung up again.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:48 PM   #31
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He won't answer..he's probably left the state
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:48 PM   #32
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So basically you were a cosigner for his loan and then he defaulted and took the money, so now the bank is going to make you repay the loan or they will take your property.

yah that really sucks, i can see where that would hurt you being your dad and all

does he have money? or is he broke? does he own anything? you can sue and put a lien on his property. or here is USA you can, have no idea there
you got it, if i dont pay i can loose one of my properties...

i think thats the word, consigner.. the only way to get a loan here is with a consigner

he is broke.. he owns the farm and a few properties but he has nothing in his name anymore.. he transferred everything to other people's name so the government or any other creditor couldnt take it

i already talked with a couple of lawyers but they also think that there are nothing mutch to do as he dont have anything in his name anymore.. hard case i guess.. they are studying the case and i hope i can get better responses next week
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What an odd thing to say.

I wish my father was alive today to steal 100k from me. Its just money and things can be worked out.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:50 PM   #34
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On God that sucks... is he your true father? (sorry if I asked)
I dont believe your own blood will traitor you, it's rare, I guess not at this days...
You better talk to him straight... as father and as a son!
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simple advice, trust noone with your money, especially not family.
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Cara, espero que consiga resolver isso.
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:47 PM   #38
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this is a terrible thing
to loose money is bad enough but to have someone you love/trust betray you is much worse


yes the word in English is Guarantor or co-signer
(you guarantee his loan to be paid by putting your name/property on the line)

I hope it all works out for you
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family and biz dont mix

a loan is biz
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I am really sorry to hear about this situation. I do wish you the best in resolving this issue. Both for yourself and your father.
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well the damage is done, i myself would find it hard to ever forgive that

he would have to have a real good legitimate excuse, (from what you say not the case though)

On the positive side of things, you'll never have to worry about him asking for something again.
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start by breaking his left knee

tell him give you back the money or you will break his right knee in 5 days
he wont be able to run away with a broken knee, and it hurts like nothing you can imagine, will definately motivate him to get the money back
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My cousin was about 19 and in a car accident. She got a small settlement out of it. Her dad told her he could go over to a police auction and get her a nice car for a small amount. She gave him the $10,000 and he brought her back a nice barely used red Mitsubishi Eclipse. She was so happy, and everyone loved her car. Her dad ended up disappearing though.

About a year and a half later she gets pulled over for speeding and turns out the car was stolen from a dealer in another state and her dad had taken the money to head to Vegas.
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Btw... be happy with the father you have. Certainly its not worse than mine.
I never saw mine. He's an asshole who didn't even pay elamony.
However, he can't rip me off. Every cloud has a silver lining :P
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Important lesson for ya.... fucked up way to learn it though.
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man i could not even imagine..

it may not seem like the right course of action, but i would fuck his world up any way i could, go to his house or wherever he lives, completely destroy all his belongings, and let him know he doesn't have a son anymore.

also, everyone he is friends with, let him know what a scumbag he is and make the story known. ripping off your own son is 1000X worst than a regular con.
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man i could not even imagine..

it may not seem like the right course of action, but i would fuck his world up any way i could, go to his house or wherever he lives, completely destroy all his belongings, and let him know he doesn't have a son anymore.

also, everyone he is friends with, let him know what a scumbag he is and make the story known. ripping off your own son is 1000X worst than a regular con.

thats the way i want to do it but i already got many people telling me not to do it.. now its all coming back again.. thanks to you, motivation is everything
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Alvaro, I think you'll regret any type of revenge you take. Maybe just try to work it out somehow, with a positive outcome. He's still your dad and one day you'll turn around and he'll be gone.
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