To funny, the US government, does't like the new TV station for south America

[justsexxx]

The US governement is afraid they will use this TV station for "bad" things. They approved at the same time a new law, that allows the good (uhm uhm) CNN etc to broadcast more often in those countries.

Does BUSh think he is the "old" USSR? Jeez that the US goverment is getting pathetic every day. Curious when they will invade venuzuela

Andre

[BuggyG]

well venezuela is a major exporter of oil
so who knows!!!

[Giorgio_Xo]

Bush attempted an unsuccessful coup d'etat several years ago. Chavez was ousted from office for a few days but came back very strong. The days of gunboat diplomacy are over.

[wjxxx]

Chavez is a fucking commie and should be killed asap

[WhoGivesaShit]

do you have a link to this story?
or do you just make it up as you go along?
just wondering.

[justsexxx]

Originally Posted by WhoGivesaShit

do you have a link to this story?
or do you just make it up as you go along?
just wondering.

It was on the dutch news,dunno if you can read dutch.

[justsexxx]

Originally Posted by wjxxx

Chavez is a fucking commie and should be killed asap

Wow you just have as much brains as Bush.

[Hollywood Horwitz]

links plz,not in dutch?

[smack]

Originally Posted by wjxxx

Chavez is a fucking commie and should be killed asap

chavez has done more for his people than any US president.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by smack

chavez has done more for his people than any US president.

Umm isn't that how it's supposed to work ?

[beemk]

does this effect you since you dont live in the usa? no? then shut the fuck up.

[justsexxx]

Originally Posted by beemk

does this effect you since you dont live in the usa? no? then shut the fuck up.

I don't live in the USA. But I found it rather funny that a so called "democracy" is actually doing all this undemocratical stuff.

The 2 wars, and another great example is guantanamo bay....

It does effect me as well, since I also live in this world, where the USA made the world less safe.

Andre

[kektex]

Originally Posted by smack

chavez has done more for his people than any US president.

As someone living in venezuela I find that laughable...the corruption is rampant and there are more people living in the streets than with the previous government.Unemployment is rising and his buddies are on his way to destroying PDVSA (the oil industry).
Don`t believe the government propaganda Chavez is spending millions of our money on.

[kektex]

This fucker has just spent a million dollars sponsoring a samba school for the carnivals in brazil while every week there are protests from people who lost their home in february from a sudden flood and landslides, and they still are living in warehouses.
Just so he can get to go to the sambodromo and get the best seat.
And I haven`t even mentioned the kids begging in the streets and the state the hospitals are in.
Then he goes spending around 15million dollars on this TV channel,a million for the samba school, more millions buying some country`s debt and giving away our oil to Cuba just so he can keep his boyfriend castro happy.
The first transmission of Telesur was an anti-imperialist message and a Che Guevara documentary narrated by Castro.
Shit, this makes me angry.

[sexxxydesign.com]

yes, he bought Argentinian debt.. INSANE hehehe

[kektex]

Originally Posted by xxxeneizexxx

yes, he bought Argentinian debt.. INSANE hehehe

Ah yes that`s it...as if we don`t have our own problems,he goes buying Argentina`s debt.
Argentina is deep in on Telesur too...have you watched it?

[Linkster]

Here's the story in English

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...4_ventv25.html

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Giorgio_Xo

Bush attempted an unsuccessful coup d'etat several years ago. Chavez was ousted from office for a few days but came back very strong. The days of gunboat diplomacy are over.

If you haven't seen it yet, download or order "the Revolution will not be Televised". Best documentary I've ever seen in my life, hands down.

[sexxxydesign.com]

nop.. i tune out mister Kirchner and his friends (Chavez, Fidel and those) I did get gas on the new joint venture with chavez.. ENARSA.. there is a big sign with the argentinian flag together with the venezuelan one.. and it says.. ENARSA PDVSA.. most cable operators decided not to include telesur in theyr grids.. so its hard to get it also.. thank god..

[kektex]

Originally Posted by Rich

If you haven't seen it yet, download or order "the Revolution will not be Televised". Best documentary I've ever seen in my life, hands down.

Sadly,the documentary replying to "The revolution.." can`t be seen as much as that piece of government backed propaganda because the producers dont have the millions of dollars of backing Chavez provided.
I was there on that demonstration shown on "The revolution..".
I was shot at from the bridge they show on the documentary just for opposing Chavez.Those guys on that bridge weren`t just shooting at the police,they were shooting at the people in the demonstration.
It sucks to see your fellow countrymen shooting at each other.It sucks even more to see dead people on the street just because they don`t agree with the government.

[Mr. Pat]

Originally Posted by justsexxx

The US governement is afraid they will use this TV station for "bad" things. They approved at the same time a new law, that allows the good (uhm uhm) CNN etc to broadcast more often in those countries.

Does BUSh think he is the "old" USSR? Jeez that the US goverment is getting pathetic every day. Curious when they will invade venuzuela

Andre

totally agree...i'm sick of hearing what the US "approves" of and doesn't "approve" of, and i live here! can you say EMPIRE!!! Bush is a shameless whore for the corporations, yet what makes me sick is that he ran on "moral" values!

[beemk]

Originally Posted by justsexxx

I don't live in the USA. But I found it rather funny that a so called "democracy" is actually doing all this undemocratical stuff.

The 2 wars, and another great example is guantanamo bay....

It does effect me as well, since I also live in this world, where the USA made the world less safe.

Andre

so is that what it really is, or is it just that you like to spend your time crying about the way the usa does things? i think we all know the answer to that from reading all your posts on gfy.

[Mr. Pat]

Originally Posted by kektex

As someone living in venezuela I find that laughable...the corruption is rampant and there are more people living in the streets than with the previous government.Unemployment is rising and his buddies are on his way to destroying PDVSA (the oil industry).
Don`t believe the government propaganda Chavez is spending millions of our money on.

thanks for the info! as well as we shouldn't believe the propoganda, our government is probably spending billions on!!

[kektex]

Originally Posted by Mr. Pat

thanks for the info! as well as we shouldn't believe the propoganda, our government is probably spending billions on!!

Too right...you americans should take a very close look at what is happening in your country. Things like the Patriot act and all this other stuff that is just aimed at repressing the people more and more are very scary.
About 2 weeks ago the congress here (chavez dominated) passed a law forbidding any type of public demonstration against government officials.
That means that you cannot even "boo" at a government official or you will go to jail
They also passed a law aimed at controlling the media.No "inappropriate" or violent content may be shown during the day on TV.Of course,inappropriate means any sort of public demonstrations or protests. Chavez`s popularity took a hard hit in february when during demonstrations agains his government the media filmed a lot of repression and violence.There were 18 people killed and many more wounded by the army and Chavez supporters.Of course , noone has gone to jail for this.

[justsexxx]

Originally Posted by beemk

so is that what it really is, or is it just that you like to spend your time crying about the way the usa does things? i think we all know the answer to that from reading all your posts on gfy.

Whatever you want donkey...

[beemk]

you dont see me complaining about it and i live in the usa? fact of the matter is that probably no one on gfy even watches the tv channel. you're obviously just digging deep for something to cry about because you're anti-usa.

[wedouglas]

they have tv stations in south america? and youre saying people here actually watch them? haha people on GFY probably dont even watch BBC.

[Icon]

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Curious when they will invade venuzuela?

If I remember correctly, BUSH Inc. has made about three attempts, including one botched assasination. They also tried to shut down the economy a few times. thats not to say Chavez is some kind of angel - because he ain't.

[justsexxx]

Originally Posted by beemk

you dont see me complaining about it and i live in the usa? fact of the matter is that probably no one on gfy even watches the tv channel. you're obviously just digging deep for something to cry about because you're anti-usa.

Haha, of course now I am anti USA. Whatever you want big boy....Oh btw the station was meant to broadcast in South America. And Bush didn't like that idea. Not that ppl may dislike the station...Jeez.

Bye bye

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by kektex

As someone living in venezuela I find that laughable...the corruption is rampant and there are more people living in the streets than with the previous government.Unemployment is rising and his buddies are on his way to destroying PDVSA (the oil industry).
Don`t believe the government propaganda Chavez is spending millions of our money on.

Yes, very funny!


A family friend of my girlfriend's moved here from there with her family several years ago and her relatives that are there still are trying to leave ASAP as they say the country is going to hell

[justsexxx]

Originally Posted by wedouglas

they have tv stations in south america? and youre saying people here actually watch them? haha people on GFY probably dont even watch BBC.

True Beemk is a great example.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by beemk

so is that what it really is, or is it just that you like to spend your time crying about the way the usa does things? i think we all know the answer to that from reading all your posts on gfy.

You're a real idiot. The US government has no right to launch coups against democratically elected leaders in other countries.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by kektex

Too right...you americans should take a very close look at what is happening in your country. Things like the Patriot act and all this other stuff that is just aimed at repressing the people more and more are very scary.
About 2 weeks ago the congress here (chavez dominated) passed a law forbidding any type of public demonstration against government officials.
That means that you cannot even "boo" at a government official or you will go to jail
They also passed a law aimed at controlling the media.No "inappropriate" or violent content may be shown during the day on TV.Of course,inappropriate means any sort of public demonstrations or protests. Chavez`s popularity took a hard hit in february when during demonstrations agains his government the media filmed a lot of repression and violence.There were 18 people killed and many more wounded by the army and Chavez supporters.Of course , noone has gone to jail for this.

How come you don't hear about Americans being killed for protesting Bush?


By how evil people make Bush out to be, you'd expect to hear more about soldiers shooting people in the streets who demonstrated against him.

[justsexxx]

Originally Posted by Huggles

How come you don't hear about Americans being killed for protesting Bush?


By how evil people make Bush out to be, you'd expect to hear more about soldiers shooting people in the streets who demonstrated against him.

Neh he is not so stupid todo that. He just kill people in Iraq.

And then the USA is "suprised" when there comes a new attack...Oh well

[Rinaldo]

Originally Posted by Rich

You're a real idiot. The US government has no right to launch coups against democratically elected leaders in other countries.

I beleive that the US should stay out of elections, but was he democratically elected?
We've also got to look out for our best interests. We can't afford another communist country

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Rinaldo

I beleive that the US should stay out of elections, but was he democratically elected?
We've also got to look out for our best interests. We can't afford another communist country

Yes, he won with about 80% of the vote. I believe he has also won a referendum since then. It's none of your business if a country decides they want communism or socialism instead of free market neo-liberalism, that's the point. America doesn't control the world. Just because it's in your "best interests" to have a puppet dictator who will sell you oil on the cheap and clamp down on dissidents, doesn't mean that you have the right to kidnap the president and install that dictator.

And most Americans can't understand why the rest of the world hates them.

[Why]

fuck it, let them broadcast whatever bullshit they want... all media is trying to brainwash you one way or the other anyways.

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Giorgio_Xo

Bush attempted an unsuccessful coup d'etat several years ago. Chavez was ousted from office for a few days but came back very strong. The days of gunboat diplomacy are over.

100% LIE

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by Rich

You're a real idiot. The US government has no right to launch coups against democratically elected leaders in other countries.

100% LIE

[cambaby]

Originally Posted by justsexxx

I don't live in the USA. But I found it rather funny that a so called "democracy" is actually doing all this undemocratical stuff.

The 2 wars, and another great example is guantanamo bay....

It does effect me as well, since I also live in this world, where the USA made the world less safe.

Andre

Where the fuck do you think your customers come from asshole, watch yourself. Its one thing to have an opinion but its quite another to start bashing and spreading lies.

[simple simon]

I am so repressed here in america, it sucks

[kektex]

Originally Posted by Rich

Yes, he won with about 80% of the vote. I believe he has also won a referendum since then. It's none of your business if a country decides they want communism or socialism instead of free market neo-liberalism, that's the point. America doesn't control the world. Just because it's in your "best interests" to have a puppet dictator who will sell you oil on the cheap and clamp down on dissidents, doesn't mean that you have the right to kidnap the president and install that dictator.

And most Americans can't understand why the rest of the world hates them.

The thing is you don`t know the whole story, you only know what the venezuelan government has paid for you to know.
He won with around 56% of the votes with a huge number of people that didn`t vote. I won`t say he didn`t win fair and square.
By the time the proposal for the referendum came around people started collecting signatures for activating it.We did it once.The CNE (National electoral council,totally controlled by Chavez) rejected it saying it wasn`t transparent. We collected signatures again under the CNE`s rules, which included publishing all the signatures collected against the president in national media.Now if that isn`t intimidation and totally undemocratic I don`t know what is.How many people do you think that work for the government or had contracts with the government or where remotely connected with it were going to sign?? What about the secrecy of vote?
We still did it and collected more than enough signatures.
Then came the time for the referendum.The CNE decided to do it with electronic voting machines.No one had the source for the code that ran the machines.Anyone here that has some remote knowledge about computers knows you can program a computer to do anything you want.Still the CNE refused to show the source code saying it was for security reasons.
We went to vote.Of course ,Chavez won.Every exit poll by 4pm was saying Chavez had lost in spite of all the obstacles.
When an audit of the paper trail these machines left was demanded , the CNE refused again.After 3 weeks and dozens of images in the news of the boxes containing the votes of the people in government offices,they acccepted to do the audit.But only to random boxes chosen,once again, by a program in a computer in the CNE.Of course nothing was amiss.

I don`t know about you but this doesn`t seem very democratic to me.
The thing is the venezuelan opposition doesn`t have the millions of dollars available to tell the whole story.Chavez on the other hand has millions of dollars of Venezuelan`s money to spread his propaganda and lies around the world.

[tristan_D]

Did he just got tired of messing in the middle east so now Bush's next target is South America?

[kektex]

Chavez has never actually proven that the coup was actually supported by the U.S. In fact I remember that on the 11th of april after dozens of people had been killed his army general came out on the TV saying he had resigned.This general is still with Chavez and has never explained why he said that on TV.
All that crap about assasination attempts and coups is just all the things Fidel has been teaching him to distract the people in Venezuela that still believe in him from the real truth:that his government is the most corrupt in the history of Venezuela and that he is taking our country to hell fast.

[abetech]

Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe won by a huge majority and we all know what kind of a shit stain he is. Elections are not about electing a qualified and wise person to lead a country anymore. They are basically worthless as are the people who elected them.

[kektex]

Originally Posted by abetech

Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe won by a huge majority and we all know what kind of a shit stain he is. Elections are not about electing a qualified and wise person to lead a country anymore. They are basically worthless as are the people who elected them.

That`s just the thing.Mugabe may have won the first time fair and square.The other times it has just been blatant fraud.Kinda like Chavez.
And kinda like Fidel, who every year holds mock elections with only his candidates.
Why the fuck anyone would support Chavez , who in turn supports one of the most ruthless dictators like Fidel I have no idea.

[nofx]

someone needs to invade USA

[justsexxx]

Originally Posted by cambaby

Where the fuck do you think your customers come from asshole, watch yourself. Its one thing to have an opinion but its quite another to start bashing and spreading lies.

Lol so because 60% of my members from the USA, I can't tell this (true) story. Lol some of you are to funny. You can only at them

[Pete-KT]

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